SEAT TOLEDO 1.0 TSI 110 Xcellence 5dr £13,500 @ Bartletts St Leonards-on-Sea
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SEAT TOLEDO 1.0 TSI 110 Xcellence 5dr £13,500 @ Bartletts St Leonards-on-Sea

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LocalFound 19th Feb
A brand new good reliable family size car, with top of the range


spec for the model. 17" alloys, air con, multimedia, full LED


headlights, front and rear parking sensors, 6 speed gearbox and a big boot for the luggage.
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mattwarby769223 m ago

Wouldn't buy any VAG product after shameful emission scandal.



To be fair, VAG are a bunch of *****, I’ve been a loyal customer since my first car, will never buy another.

And before all the ‘ ooh every car manufacturer does this’ band start, they don’t.

Unfortunately VAG’s share prices haven’t shifted as much as they should have.

Just need to sell the beetle and the golf and I’ll be rid of the last of the fleet
Edited by moderator: "potty mouth" 19th Feb
Wouldn't buy any VAG product after shameful emission scandal.
mechanicalman4 m ago

Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. …Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. Don't quite know why so many Europeans get upset by it.


For starters, probably all of the Europeans that now have a devalued car, that runs like if it's had the 'modifications'.
mechanicalman23 m ago

Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. …Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. Don't quite know why so many Europeans get upset by it.


You are misinformed. They cheated both U.S and EU emissions test. Specifically they engineered deceit into their product range and mis-sold hundreds of thousands of cars to there loyal customer base. In the process they considerably polluted the atmosphere for the rest of us. Since then VAG has settled for billions in the US and systematically lied to the rest of the world, UK included. To exasperate the issue they have been applying a retrospective "fix" which does nothing of the sort, it knakcered the torque and causes all of kind of mechanically isssues. There is a facebook group with over 6000 VAG owners in the UK alone that have had this problem

In light of the facts, i don't think that the OP used any hyperbole at all. VAG are dishonest scumbags and you would be do well to buy elesewhere. For the record i had an effected car and have owned several audi's prior but would never buy another VAG car again.
Edited by: "Tyranicus66" 19th Feb
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Wouldn't buy any VAG product after shameful emission scandal.
It looks like a car from the 1991-1993 range
Yes old stock . Bmw give 25% off cars on forecourt over 6 months. Negotiate .notabilty pay my Range Rover looks hot
7day3 m ago

Yes old stock . Bmw give 25% off cars on forecourt over 6 months. …Yes old stock . Bmw give 25% off cars on forecourt over 6 months. Negotiate .notabilty pay my Range Rover looks hot


In the words of the Virgin mary, come again?
No smart entry, electrochromic rearview mirror, heated seats, reverse camera, android auto, auto tailgate or Bluetooth as standard. That's quite a lot missing from a top of the range car. Even dacias come with some of that. Still, it's cheapish.
Edited by: "jaydeeuk1" 19th Feb
mattwarby769223 m ago

Wouldn't buy any VAG product after shameful emission scandal.



To be fair, VAG are a bunch of *****, I’ve been a loyal customer since my first car, will never buy another.

And before all the ‘ ooh every car manufacturer does this’ band start, they don’t.

Unfortunately VAG’s share prices haven’t shifted as much as they should have.

Just need to sell the beetle and the golf and I’ll be rid of the last of the fleet
Edited by moderator: "potty mouth" 19th Feb
jaydeeuk113 m ago

No smart entry, electrochromic rearview mirror, heated seats, reverse …No smart entry, electrochromic rearview mirror, heated seats, reverse camera, android auto, auto tailgate or Bluetooth as standard. That's quite a lot missing from a top of the range car. Even dacias come with some of that. Still, it's cheapish.



What other comparable new car offers these for this money? Serious question, I would love to know, not trying to be smart.
mattwarby769247 m ago

Wouldn't buy any VAG product after shameful emission scandal.


Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. Don't quite know why so many Europeans get upset by it.
mechanicalman4 m ago

Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. …Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. Don't quite know why so many Europeans get upset by it.


For starters, probably all of the Europeans that now have a devalued car, that runs like if it's had the 'modifications'.
7day19th Feb

Yes old stock . Bmw give 25% off cars on forecourt over 6 months. …Yes old stock . Bmw give 25% off cars on forecourt over 6 months. Negotiate .notabilty pay my Range Rover looks hot


You sure about this? If that was the case the 2nd hand market would also follow through as it would affect residual values.
Looks quite a lot of car for the money though to be fair.
mechanicalman23 m ago

Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. …Bit of hyperbole don't you think. They cheated an American emissions test. Don't quite know why so many Europeans get upset by it.


You are misinformed. They cheated both U.S and EU emissions test. Specifically they engineered deceit into their product range and mis-sold hundreds of thousands of cars to there loyal customer base. In the process they considerably polluted the atmosphere for the rest of us. Since then VAG has settled for billions in the US and systematically lied to the rest of the world, UK included. To exasperate the issue they have been applying a retrospective "fix" which does nothing of the sort, it knakcered the torque and causes all of kind of mechanically isssues. There is a facebook group with over 6000 VAG owners in the UK alone that have had this problem

In light of the facts, i don't think that the OP used any hyperbole at all. VAG are dishonest scumbags and you would be do well to buy elesewhere. For the record i had an effected car and have owned several audi's prior but would never buy another VAG car again.
Edited by: "Tyranicus66" 19th Feb
jaydeeuk150 m ago

No smart entry, electrochromic rearview mirror, heated seats, reverse …No smart entry, electrochromic rearview mirror, heated seats, reverse camera, android auto, auto tailgate or Bluetooth as standard. That's quite a lot missing from a top of the range car. Even dacias come with some of that. Still, it's cheapish.



Spec is here.. configurator.seat.co.uk/seat-cc/tablet-tablet-006_DEFAULT-en-normal.view?msk=1

It does have Bluetooth and sat nav, climate, climate glove box, cruise, electric windows all around etc...
Edited by: "packard" 19th Feb
Saloon with a 1 litre engine?
pasgun3 m ago

Saloon with a 1 litre engine?


It's a hatchback with a 1 litre TURBOCHARGED engine, so comparable to a 1.4 or so in reality.
pasgun6 m ago

Saloon with a 1 litre engine?


In 1973 I would have been seriously concerned, in 2018 I would be looking at a lot more of it's specs than just it's cubic capacity
Surely to get that much power out of a 1.0, something's got to give.. longevity/ reliability?
nihcaj3 m ago

In 1973 I would have been seriously concerned, in 2018 I would be looking …In 1973 I would have been seriously concerned, in 2018 I would be looking at a lot more of it's specs than just it's cubic capacity

You can't say it's reliable when 1.0tsi has been so short on the market. See some horror stories with tsi engines here: briskoda.net/for…es/
pasgun4 m ago

Surely to get that much power out of a 1.0, something's got to give.. …Surely to get that much power out of a 1.0, something's got to give.. longevity/ reliability?


Not really, no. They have stronger con-rods etc. to cope with the extra stresses, although turbos on anything don't tend to last forever.

This said, I personally don't find any VW Group cars to be especially reliable, but it in theory it shouldn't be any worse than the larger engines.
ezzer721 h, 0 m ago

Not really, no. They have stronger con-rods etc. to cope with the extra …Not really, no. They have stronger con-rods etc. to cope with the extra stresses, although turbos on anything don't tend to last forever.This said, I personally don't find any VW Group cars to be especially reliable, but it in theory it shouldn't be any worse than the larger engines.


140,000 on my 2013 Audi A3 and all it's needed is 2 rear shocks and tyres/brake pads. Still looks and drives like new tbh.
Crispy_Ambulance19th Feb

140,000 on my 2013 Audi A3 and all it's needed is 2 rear shocks and …140,000 on my 2013 Audi A3 and all it's needed is 2 rear shocks and tyres/brake pads. Still looks and drives like new tbh.


I often hear these kinds of responses, but am always doubtful. Have you had it from brand new? Usually people who have the cash to buy a 'premium priced' car, don't tend to keep them for 5 years or such high miles. If you have, I'd be interested to know how much you have spent on maintenance over the years, because not many of the original components can last for 140k on these without needing replacing.
ezzer728 m ago

I often hear these kinds of responses, but am always doubtful. Have you …I often hear these kinds of responses, but am always doubtful. Have you had it from brand new? Usually people who have the cash to buy a 'premium priced' car, don't tend to keep them for 5 years or such high miles. If you have, I'd be interested to know how much you have spent on maintenance over the years, because not many of the original components can last for 140k on these without needing replacing.


I can email you some photos if you like - showing the mileage, condition of the car? It's been regularly serviced (only the first one at Audi), the rest at Autotune in Washington (great independant garage). It was an ex-demo with 6k on the clock when bought (6 month old).
Crispy_Ambulance19th Feb

I can email you some photos if you like - showing the mileage, condition …I can email you some photos if you like - showing the mileage, condition of the car? It's been regularly serviced (only the first one at Audi), the rest at Autotune in Washington (great independant garage). It was an ex-demo with 6k on the clock when bought (6 month old).


Thanks for the offer, but I'm sure it still looks nice and I don't doubt the mileage. My doubts would be more about how much of the original car was still present at that mileage, because every one I come across has thousands of pounds worth of receipts in the glovebox.

Out of interest, which engine does it have?
ezzer7224 m ago

Thanks for the offer, but I'm sure it still looks nice and I don't doubt …Thanks for the offer, but I'm sure it still looks nice and I don't doubt the mileage. My doubts would be more about how much of the original car was still present at that mileage, because every one I come across has thousands of pounds worth of receipts in the glovebox.Out of interest, which engine does it have?


It's the 2 litre tdi sport saloon. If the garage have been replacing parts they haven't been charging me which is good of them. Out of interest what parts should have been replaced by now? Thousands of pounds of receipts - really? And you say everyone you come across? I also had a 2.1l petrol T25 campervan with over 200k on the clock and that only ever let me down with wheel bearings as well in France, I suppose I'm telling fibs about that one as well?
Crispy_Ambulance19th Feb

It's the 2 litre tdi sport saloon. If the garage have been replacing parts …It's the 2 litre tdi sport saloon. If the garage have been replacing parts they haven't been charging me which is good of them. Out of interest what parts should have been replaced by now? Thousands of pounds of receipts - really? And you say everyone you come across? I also had a 2.1l petrol T25 campervan with over 200k on the clock and that only ever let me down with wheel bearings as well in France, I suppose I'm telling fibs about that one as well?


Maybe you have been lucky with your A3, or maybe you are not telling us everything, we will never know, but things like this don't lie;

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(I work for Kia nowadays by the way, which is nice )

T25s were absolutely tragic (despite their 'cult' following), be totally honest, you didn't put the first 200k on it, did you?
I put the last 50k on it. I also had a Sierra back in the late 80s that went twice round the clock with no dramas. I just think you're a pretty poor driver if you're honest? KIA's are supposed to be pretty reliable, but theyre just ugly clones aren't they?
Anyway I'm off to bed, I shouldn't really be arguing with a jumped up car salesman. 🤣
Crispy_Ambulance19th Feb

I put the last 50k on it. I also had a Sierra back in the late 80s that …I put the last 50k on it. I also had a Sierra back in the late 80s that went twice round the clock with no dramas. I just think you're a pretty poor driver if you're honest? KIA's are supposed to be pretty reliable, but theyre just ugly clones aren't they?


No, not at all, it's not my own cars that have had problems (I would only ever buy Japanese / Korean as reliability in my opinion should be a priority). I am an ex-VW Service Manager, so know full well that they use a lot of chocolate components (that are hardly ever made in Germany...), and now, I have a lot of VW Group cars (complete with their receipts and problems) traded in against Kias, believe it or not.

I'm surprised you think modern Kias are ugly, most of the designs get lots of praise - to be fair, Peter Schreyer (formerly of VW/Audi) is heavily involved with what they look like, I just hope he doesn't bring along any ideas of cost cutting on vital components from his previous job.
Crispy_Ambulance19th Feb

Anyway I'm off to bed, I shouldn't really be arguing with a jumped up car …Anyway I'm off to bed, I shouldn't really be arguing with a jumped up car salesman. 🤣


Haha, good one - it's amazing how many people out there haven't been in the industry for almost 30 years like I have, but know more about cars than me
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Found in another thread and just had to share!

Night all.
ezzer7230 m ago

Maybe you have been lucky with your A3, or maybe you are not telling us …Maybe you have been lucky with your A3, or maybe you are not telling us everything, we will never know, but things like this don't lie;[Image] (I work for Kia nowadays by the way, which is nice )T25s were absolutely tragic (despite their 'cult' following), be totally honest, you didn't put the first 200k on it, did you?


The league table is surely misleading. Seat and Skoda are high up on the table but Audi close to the bottom. All being part of the same VAG group most of the parts are shared.
Smadmad1 h, 19 m ago

The league table is surely misleading. Seat and Skoda are high up on the …The league table is surely misleading. Seat and Skoda are high up on the table but Audi close to the bottom. All being part of the same VAG group most of the parts are shared.


Probably comes into three camps. One is expectation. Premium car so expect things to work. Second is more kit on premium cars so more things to go wrong. But I suspect the 3rd is most likely. How a car is driven. You drive it hard and it's more likely to break. Mates 2.5 year old Audi s-line has had 3 front springs replaced. Not that there is anything wrong with the car he just drives over potholes and speed humps at 30+mph. Yet normal people slow down. These people are people who buy Skoda's. Also as Audi's are often used as company cars they are likely driven harder and have much higher milage at a set date. An Audi at 3 years old might have 60-90k miles and a Fabia might have 15k.
ezzer725 h, 34 m ago

Maybe you have been lucky with your A3, or maybe you are not telling us …Maybe you have been lucky with your A3, or maybe you are not telling us everything, we will never know, but things like this don't lie;[Image] (I work for Kia nowadays by the way, which is nice )T25s were absolutely tragic (despite their 'cult' following), be totally honest, you didn't put the first 200k on it, did you?


I take it Lexus aren't on that list because they recorded zero problems. Makes sense, if every car was as well built car garages would go bust overnight.
Tyranicus6613 h, 29 m ago

You are misinformed. They cheated both U.S and EU emissions test. …You are misinformed. They cheated both U.S and EU emissions test. Specifically they engineered deceit into their product range and mis-sold hundreds of thousands of cars to there loyal customer base. In the process they considerably polluted the atmosphere for the rest of us. Since then VAG has settled for billions in the US and systematically lied to the rest of the world, UK included. To exasperate the issue they have been applying a retrospective "fix" which does nothing of the sort, it knakcered the torque and causes all of kind of mechanically isssues. There is a facebook group with over 6000 VAG owners in the UK alone that have had this problemIn light of the facts, i don't think that the OP used any hyperbole at all. VAG are dishonest scumbags and you would be do well to buy elesewhere. For the record i had an effected car and have owned several audi's prior but would never buy another VAG car again.


They actually sold over 11 million cars that were fitted with the cheat device, all of which were sold on the basis of producing around 40 times less polluting gas (specifically nitrogen dioxide, which creates smog and acid rain, damaging the environment extensively) than VW/VAG claimed.

You should watch the Netflix documentary Dirty Money. If you have any beliefs that VAG is a caring company with morals, this documentary will completely change your mind
Edited by: "alexc100" 20th Feb
ezzer728 h, 1 m ago

Haha, good one - it's amazing how many people out there haven't been in …Haha, good one - it's amazing how many people out there haven't been in the industry for almost 30 years like I have, but know more about cars than me


So you know more about my car than me? Astounding arrogance from Mr Korean car salesman right here....
ezzer727 h, 58 m ago

[Image] Found in another thread and just had to share!Night all.

And you don't know this?
Has to be done

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BuckRodgers66615 h, 54 m ago

Just need to sell the beetle and the golf and I’ll be rid of the last of t …Just need to sell the beetle and the golf and I’ll be rid of the last of the fleet


Anyone else cringe when people refer to cars they own as a "fleet".

You're not a transport manager for a massive multinational mate, you just own a couple of bangers.
Edited by: "ollie87" 20th Feb
Crispy_Ambulance20th Feb

And you don't know this?


You have first hand experience of buying plenty of them, I know.

Unless you just mean wheel bearings are cheap?
Crispy_Ambulance20th Feb

So you know more about my car than me? Astounding arrogance from Mr … So you know more about my car than me? Astounding arrogance from Mr Korean car salesman right here....


Yes, I almost certainly do.

I have been in the industry since 1988, and worked in all departments, save accounts.

In that time I have worked directly with;
Nissan
Fiat
Jaguar
Volkswagen
Mazda
Volvo
Kia

And of course, have experience of virtually all other brands along the way too - my Service Departments have MOT'd most makes and models, or I've taken them in part exchange etc.

Can honestly say that VW Group cars have been the most troublesome, versus their respective reputations anyway.

So in summary, I'm not just a bog standard Korean Car Salesman, I really know my
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