Seiko Samurai SRPB51K1 automatic divers watch £295 Simpkins Jewellers
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Seiko Samurai SRPB51K1 automatic divers watch £295 Simpkins Jewellers

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Posted 29th Apr
A great price for this Seiko Samurai below £300. Free delivery too.

Movement
Calibre Number
4R35

Movement Type
Automatic with manual winding capacity

Duration
Approx. 41 hours

Exterior
Case Material
Stainless steel

Crystal
Hardlex

LumiBrite
Lumibrite on hands and indexs

Clasp
Three-fold clasp with secure lock , push button release with extender

Other Details
Water Resistance
200m / 660ft diver's

Case Size
Thickness: 13.4 ㎜
Diameter: 43.8 ㎜

Other Specifications
Screw-down crown
Unidirectional rotating bezel

Other Features
23 jewels
Date display
Stop seconds hand function
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coldpop29/04/2020 09:00

Brand reputation. Having a successful and trusted brand allows companies …Brand reputation. Having a successful and trusted brand allows companies to charge a premium for their products. Those watches you refer to will most likely be low quality and unheard of brands. I think this watch for this price is ok. I’ve owned a few Samurai watches and never had an issue. If I was buying at the minute, I think the sales around would let you get a Swiss auto with a good heritage for this price.


Seiko built their brand on value-for-money watches. With each year that goes by their value-for-money gets worse. A lot of people on enthusiast Seiko forums are noticing it.
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Good price, this watch looks great on a variety of straps too. Heat.
Yes I know its a Seiko and 200M etc. But you can get the same movement in a watch with Saphire crystal for £70 ish. Really can't see how Seiko can get away with charging these prices for something with Hardlex and no USP. Not voting either way by the way.
Abbadon29/04/2020 08:26

Yes I know its a Seiko and 200M etc. But you can get the same movement in …Yes I know its a Seiko and 200M etc. But you can get the same movement in a watch with Saphire crystal for £70 ish. Really can't see how Seiko can get away with charging these prices for something with Hardlex and no USP. Not voting either way by the way.


What watches? Genuinely interested.
Abbadon29/04/2020 08:26

Yes I know its a Seiko and 200M etc. But you can get the same movement in …Yes I know its a Seiko and 200M etc. But you can get the same movement in a watch with Saphire crystal for £70 ish. Really can't see how Seiko can get away with charging these prices for something with Hardlex and no USP. Not voting either way by the way.


Brand reputation. Having a successful and trusted brand allows companies to charge a premium for their products. Those watches you refer to will most likely be low quality and unheard of brands. I think this watch for this price is ok. I’ve owned a few Samurai watches and never had an issue. If I was buying at the minute, I think the sales around would let you get a Swiss auto with a good heritage for this price.
coldpop29/04/2020 09:00

Brand reputation. Having a successful and trusted brand allows companies …Brand reputation. Having a successful and trusted brand allows companies to charge a premium for their products. Those watches you refer to will most likely be low quality and unheard of brands. I think this watch for this price is ok. I’ve owned a few Samurai watches and never had an issue. If I was buying at the minute, I think the sales around would let you get a Swiss auto with a good heritage for this price.


Seiko built their brand on value-for-money watches. With each year that goes by their value-for-money gets worse. A lot of people on enthusiast Seiko forums are noticing it.
voodooboard29/04/2020 09:11

Seiko built their brand on value-for-money watches. With each year that …Seiko built their brand on value-for-money watches. With each year that goes by their value-for-money gets worse. A lot of people on enthusiast Seiko forums are noticing it.


Agree the value proposition doesn't seem to be there at rrp. I think you can get a good deal but really need to search. Even second hand would help, lightly used etc.
voodooboard29/04/2020 09:11

Seiko built their brand on value-for-money watches. With each year that …Seiko built their brand on value-for-money watches. With each year that goes by their value-for-money gets worse. A lot of people on enthusiast Seiko forums are noticing it.


Seiko, like everyone else just about, build their brand on sponsorship and advertising. The more they spend, the more they charge. I agree that their VFM has decreased in recent years, but they’ve still a very loyal and enthusiastic fan base. This isn’t a bad watch, but for me, I’d look elsewhere, especially given the current climate. As a deal, it’s cheaper than it normally would be, although I paid £195 for one in 2018, so that reinforces your comment.
I prefer turtle and sumo over this one
suhayb100929/04/2020 08:40

What watches? Genuinely interested.



Check out Pagani Design for example.
coldpop29/04/2020 09:00

Brand reputation. Having a successful and trusted brand allows companies …Brand reputation. Having a successful and trusted brand allows companies to charge a premium for their products. Those watches you refer to will most likely be low quality and unheard of brands. I think this watch for this price is ok. I’ve owned a few Samurai watches and never had an issue. If I was buying at the minute, I think the sales around would let you get a Swiss auto with a good heritage for this price.



Not sure about the low quality point, have you seen reviews of Pagani and slightly more expensive yelang watches? But would go as far as to say, can get a good watch with an ETA movement for less than this price.
Abbadon29/04/2020 09:45

Not sure about the low quality point, have you seen reviews of Pagani and …Not sure about the low quality point, have you seen reviews of Pagani and slightly more expensive yelang watches? But would go as far as to say, can get a good watch with an ETA movement for less than this price.


I don’t think those watches are even comparable to be honest. Maybe Orient would be a better example of lower cost and better value, but you have to pay a certain amount for brand recognition. That’s how advertising works.
Call your watch Samurai and don't use daitō as the second hand, opportunity missed
Abbadon29/04/2020 09:42

Check out Pagani Design for example.


These are all homage watches though?
If anyone's interested, Jura Watches wrote back with a price match and offered me £290. If you want to save an extra fiver. Could call them and it would be quicker.
This watch was £260 on John Lewis last night till it went OOS before midnight. Luckily, else I would have bought it
SRPB51K1 is £314.10 currently at the cheapest. Would probably go for that one, but then again those are huge for my 6in wrist. I bought a Presage (SRPB43J1) for £269 last night. That should suit me better.
nohohon29/04/2020 10:37

This watch was £260 on John Lewis last night till it went OOS before …This watch was £260 on John Lewis last night till it went OOS before midnight. Luckily, else I would have bought it SRPB51K1 is £314.10 currently at the cheapest. Would probably go for that one, but then again those are huge for my 6in wrist. I bought a Presage (SRPB43J1) for £269 last night. That should suit me better.


I didn't see that wow.
Abbadon29/04/2020 09:42

Check out Pagani Design for example.


Or Corgeut. Loads of different companies on AliExpress
coldpop29/04/2020 09:48

I don’t think those watches are even comparable to be honest. Maybe Orient …I don’t think those watches are even comparable to be honest. Maybe Orient would be a better example of lower cost and better value, but you have to pay a certain amount for brand recognition. That’s how advertising works.


The Pagani are very comparable. Check out the PD-1639. Excellent watch. Just one more watch on YouTube did a fair and honest review.
suhayb100929/04/2020 10:45

I didn't see that wow.


Neither did I. Really want to purchase a Presage in blue.
granitesilver29/04/2020 11:26

The Pagani are very comparable. Check out the PD-1639. Excellent watch. …The Pagani are very comparable. Check out the PD-1639. Excellent watch. Just one more watch on YouTube did a fair and honest review.


You don’t seem to be getting the brand value here. Who do Pagani sponsor? Which celebrity or sports personality wears them? What is their heritage? Seiko are one of the biggest, most well known and well established watch brands on earth. It’s not just about what you can find cheaper. Comparable means a direct overall comparison. That is not the case with these two brands.
coldpop29/04/2020 11:53

You don’t seem to be getting the brand value here. Who do Pagani sponsor? W …You don’t seem to be getting the brand value here. Who do Pagani sponsor? Which celebrity or sports personality wears them? What is their heritage? Seiko are one of the biggest, most well known and well established watch brands on earth. It’s not just about what you can find cheaper. Comparable means a direct overall comparison. That is not the case with these two brands.


Agree with most of your points, however just putting out there a comparable alternative that we disagree with.
granitesilver29/04/2020 11:59

Agree with most of your points, however just putting out there a …Agree with most of your points, however just putting out there a comparable alternative that we disagree with.


In sales, especially with RRP prices, brand recognition is just as important as value or quality. Tag Heuer is far more recognisable and more well known than Tudor, for example, not because they’re better (they aren’t) just because Tag have a very good advertising team that spend a fortune getting their watches on celebrities and in films and all over sporting events. The same is true of Seiko. You are buying the brand, not just the watch. You’re buying into a heritage and reputation. Of course there are cheaper watches with essentially the same bits inside, but they aren’t comparable without the full story.
coldpop29/04/2020 12:06

In sales, especially with RRP prices, brand recognition is just as …In sales, especially with RRP prices, brand recognition is just as important as value or quality. Tag Heuer is far more recognisable and more well known than Tudor, for example, not because they’re better (they aren’t) just because Tag have a very good advertising team that spend a fortune getting their watches on celebrities and in films and all over sporting events. The same is true of Seiko. You are buying the brand, not just the watch. You’re buying into a heritage and reputation. Of course there are cheaper watches with essentially the same bits inside, but they aren’t comparable without the full story.


Like I said we disagree on a comparable alternative.
coldpop29/04/2020 12:06

In sales, especially with RRP prices, brand recognition is just as …In sales, especially with RRP prices, brand recognition is just as important as value or quality. Tag Heuer is far more recognisable and more well known than Tudor, for example, not because they’re better (they aren’t) just because Tag have a very good advertising team that spend a fortune getting their watches on celebrities and in films and all over sporting events. The same is true of Seiko. You are buying the brand, not just the watch. You’re buying into a heritage and reputation. Of course there are cheaper watches with essentially the same bits inside, but they aren’t comparable without the full story.



While agreeing brand is important and can have an impact on price, in my opinion this is more the case with luxury brands than the likes of Seiko. Seiko are for the most part, a purveyor of cheap ish watches with barely average quality control. Yes they make some expensive watches too but that is not the case here. I have a couple of Seiko watches as well as some more upmarket ones and enjoy them all, but I still say Seiko should be offering more than a better quality bracelet and worse crystal for the premium you have to pay for this.
Abbadon29/04/2020 08:26

Yes I know its a Seiko and 200M etc. But you can get the same movement in …Yes I know its a Seiko and 200M etc. But you can get the same movement in a watch with Saphire crystal for £70 ish. Really can't see how Seiko can get away with charging these prices for something with Hardlex and no USP. Not voting either way by the way.


I have two Chinese specials, a Loreo Subby and a Pagani Design Subby. Neither are working properly. Setting the date on Pagani is tricky and on the Loreo it has stuck completely. I'm highly unlikely to be easily able to get them fixed under guarantee. I have bit the bullet and spent £275 on a Seiko Turtle. I just don't want the hassle of worrying about getting a good one or not when buying a watch.
Abbadon29/04/2020 13:00

While agreeing brand is important and can have an impact on price, in my …While agreeing brand is important and can have an impact on price, in my opinion this is more the case with luxury brands than the likes of Seiko. Seiko are for the most part, a purveyor of cheap ish watches with barely average quality control. Yes they make some expensive watches too but that is not the case here. I have a couple of Seiko watches as well as some more upmarket ones and enjoy them all, but I still say Seiko should be offering more than a better quality bracelet and worse crystal for the premium you have to pay for this.


From Mars Bars to Mercedes, branding is key to sales. Seiko don’t make cheap watches, they make watches that range from expensive to low cost. I agree that the specs of this watch don’t match the price, which is why I’ve previously said I’d not choose it, particularly at this time.
presterjohn7129/04/2020 13:08

I have two Chinese specials, a Loreo Subby and a Pagani Design Subby. …I have two Chinese specials, a Loreo Subby and a Pagani Design Subby. Neither are working properly. Setting the date on Pagani is tricky and on the Loreo it has stuck completely. I'm highly unlikely to be easily able to get them fixed under guarantee. I have bit the bullet and spent £275 on a Seiko Turtle. I just don't want the hassle of worrying about getting a good one or not when buying a watch.


Which turtle did you buy and from where?
granitesilver29/04/2020 12:12

Like I said we disagree on a comparable alternative.


A comparable alternative would be something like a Tissot. Something with good heritage, sponsorship and similar pricing.
suhayb100929/04/2020 13:14

Which turtle did you buy and from where?


I got the save the ocean one from Simpkins. Gun metal colour with the stunning blue dial. It's beautiful. The chapter ring is not dead on though to be fair and the bracelet was a pig to resize. I'm happy with the watch though.
coldpop29/04/2020 13:15

A comparable alternative would be something like a Tissot. Something with …A comparable alternative would be something like a Tissot. Something with good heritage, sponsorship and similar pricing.


I’ll repeat. Like I said we disagree on a comparable alternative.
presterjohn7129/04/2020 13:26

I got the save the ocean one from Simpkins. Gun metal colour with the …I got the save the ocean one from Simpkins. Gun metal colour with the stunning blue dial. It's beautiful. The chapter ring is not dead on though to be fair and the bracelet was a pig to resize. I'm happy with the watch though.


Ah nice. Was it the SRPD21K1?
suhayb100929/04/2020 13:32

Ah nice. Was it the SRPD21K1?


I couldn't tell you. On the back of the watch it's called the Air Diver special edition.
presterjohn7129/04/2020 13:39

I couldn't tell you. On the back of the watch it's called the Air Diver …I couldn't tell you. On the back of the watch it's called the Air Diver special edition.


No worries. Is it silver or black?
suhayb100929/04/2020 13:40

No worries. Is it silver or black?


As stated previously it's gun metal (dark grey).
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windyshaner29/04/2020 15:21

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But have they been making watches since 1881? No.
suhayb100929/04/2020 15:24

But have they been making watches since 1881? No.


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windyshaner29/04/2020 15:32

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Tbh to each their own.
i have a few automatic watches by seiko and orient and i like them very much,but prices have rocketed recently.
so i was showing that there are alternatives out there, if anyone is interested.
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