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Got these on now, when Amazon had them for £84.99. Music sounds great
Amazon now want £148 so hear at this price if you need them now.

Edit: that's for the matte black edition.
£99 for the standard (cosmetic only)
Edited by: "mrew42" 8th Jan
I also got them at £85, and they sound like crap, I was really disappointed. Have managed to get some software to improve the sound a bit on Windows 10. Also they really start to hurt my ears after about 2 hours. Every day I have been thinking about sending them back, I've never sent anything back to Amazon before.
Edited by: "Daniel42" 8th Jan
I bought the 4.40 for my wife and rather rate those for the price. I read up on the 4.50 shortly after assuming they would be a step up in quality. The difference is obviously the NC. But I read people saying the sound was far worse than in the 4.40. I would have snapped them up had they been comparable but apparently not.
Daniel4208/01/2020 16:55

I also got them at £85, and they sound like crap, I was really …I also got them at £85, and they sound like crap, I was really disappointed. Have managed to get some software to improve the sound a bit on Windows 10. Also they really start to hurt my ears after about 2 hours. Every day I have been thinking about sending them back, I've never sent anything back to Amazon before.


Amazon are very good about returns, they even have an option for "performance not acceptable" or something similar
Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.

To get these sounding their best you need a preamp - luckily there is a free android player - NRG player which includes a software pre-amp. you only need to adjust the setting slightly to get these sounding perfect. It also includes a graphic equaliser so you can tailor the sound to your requirement. Without the preamp adjustment the sound - neutral (flat)

It is the pre-amp that needs adjusting rather than the graphic equaliser. Mine is set to 20% with treble boost on 8db and bass boost on 3db
Edited by: "fiqqer" 8th Jan
An awesome pair of headphones, I got mine last year for £120 and I dont regret it. The NC is pretty good and so is the sound quality. Also folds neatly so you can easily store it. Only downside IMO is it uses micro USB for charging. Everything else I have uses type C :/
fiqqer08/01/2020 18:08

Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.To get …Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.To get these sounding their best you need a preamp - luckily there is a free android player - NRG player which includes a software pre-amp. you only need to adjust the setting slightly to get these sounding perfect. It also includes a graphic equaliser so you can tailor the sound to your requirement. Without the preamp adjustment the sound - neutral (flat)It is the pre-amp that needs adjusting rather than the graphic equaliser. Mine is set to 20% with treble boost on 8db and bass boost on 3db


Paid 65 a few weeks ago also grade b. Too tight for my head, no complaints sound wise. Prob not saying much when you consider I usually paid no more than 30 for wired headphones prior.
iv had these for 3 years roughly, and theyv never let me down always worked have an extreamly long battery life and refuse to die 100% reccomend.
fiqqer08/01/2020 18:08

Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.To get …Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.To get these sounding their best you need a preamp - luckily there is a free android player - NRG player which includes a software pre-amp. you only need to adjust the setting slightly to get these sounding perfect. It also includes a graphic equaliser so you can tailor the sound to your requirement. Without the preamp adjustment the sound - neutral (flat)It is the pre-amp that needs adjusting rather than the graphic equaliser. Mine is set to 20% with treble boost on 8db and bass boost on 3db


I didn't think that they sounded good at all as they were. I have £30 ausdom ones that sound 10 times better, as well as a host of other fairly cheap Bluetooth headphones that all sound a lot better. I've realised they are completely flat out of the box and sound dull and completely lifeless, but you can actually really push them hugely and they can sound a lot better once amped and eq'd, as they were intended to be I would say. You can tell they are more expensive once you drive some power through them for sure, I'm not so miserable about them now. I am sourcing some other ear pads right now though.
Edited by: "Daniel42" 8th Jan
Daniel4208/01/2020 18:45

Got to wonder about people saying they sound fine as they are. I have £30 …Got to wonder about people saying they sound fine as they are. I have £30 ausdom ones that sound 10 times better, as well as a host of other fairly cheap Bluetooth headphones that all sound a lot better. I've realised they are completely flat out of the box and sound dull and completely lifeless, but you can actually really push them hugely and they can sound a lot better once amped and eq'd, as they were intended to be I would say. You can tell they are more expensive once you drive some power through them for sure, I'm not so miserable about them now. I am sourcing some other ear pads right now though.


Some people prefer the flat sound. I do. What I don't like about these is the small earpads. They're classed as over-ear but that's pushing it.
rev608/01/2020 18:49

Some people prefer the flat sound. I do. What I don't like about these is …Some people prefer the flat sound. I do. What I don't like about these is the small earpads. They're classed as over-ear but that's pushing it.



fiqqer08/01/2020 18:08

Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.To get …Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.To get these sounding their best you need a preamp - luckily there is a free android player - NRG player which includes a software pre-amp. you only need to adjust the setting slightly to get these sounding perfect. It also includes a graphic equaliser so you can tailor the sound to your requirement. Without the preamp adjustment the sound - neutral (flat)It is the pre-amp that needs adjusting rather than the graphic equaliser. Mine is set to 20% with treble boost on 8db and bass boost on 3db


The over all quality sounded really poor too (in my opinion) until I turned everything up
Also I reckon they possibly sound a lot better on phones, not tried that as no need for it myself.
What I have done in order to get these sounding pretty decent on my Windows 10 PC is installed Equalizer APO
sourceforge.net/pro…po/
You need that first, in order to then be able to install Peace Equalizer
sourceforge.net/pro…on/

The software is pretty awesome in my opinion, such a huge improvement for me.

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Daniel4208/01/2020 18:57

The over all quality sounded really poor too (in my opinion) until I …The over all quality sounded really poor too (in my opinion) until I turned everything up Also I reckon they possibly sound a lot better on phones, not tried that as no need for it myself. What I have done in order to get these sounding pretty decent on my Windows 10 PC is installed Equalizer APO https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/ You need that first, in order to then be able to install Peace Equalizerhttps://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/The software is pretty awesome in my opinion, such a huge improvement for me. [Image]


Set preamp to at least -16
Edited by: "rev6" 8th Jan
mrew4208/01/2020 16:46

Got these on now, when Amazon had them for £84.99. Music sounds …Got these on now, when Amazon had them for £84.99. Music sounds greatAmazon now want £148 so hear at this price if you need them now.Edit: that's for the matte black edition.£99 for the standard (cosmetic only)


I do prefer amazon's colour version actually. They might need some slight bass boost depending on the music. Look into the sennheiser outlet stock.
rev608/01/2020 18:59

Set preamp to at least -16


Yeah, they do clip as that is there (when turned up very loud) still playing around.
Edited by: "Daniel42" 8th Jan
Daniel4208/01/2020 19:02

Yeah, they do clip as that is there, still playing around.


HeSuVi is also a very good tool for Equalizer APO.
Edited by: "rev6" 8th Jan
rev608/01/2020 19:10

HeSuVi is also a very good tool for Equalizer APO.


When turned up very loud they can clip I mean, not at 17% volume, heh.
I will have a look at HeSuVi.
Daniel4208/01/2020 19:14

When turned up very loud they can clip I mean, not at 17% volume, heh. I …When turned up very loud they can clip I mean, not at 17% volume, heh. I will have a look at HeSuVi.


Yeah prevent clipping is also there in the app. It adjusts the preamp on the fly.
rev608/01/2020 19:15

Yeah prevent clipping is also there in the app. It adjusts the preamp on …Yeah prevent clipping is also there in the app. It adjusts the preamp on the fly.


Yep, I did use it, turned it off now.
rev608/01/2020 18:49

Some people prefer the flat sound. I do. What I don't like about these is …Some people prefer the flat sound. I do. What I don't like about these is the small earpads. They're classed as over-ear but that's pushing it.


As far as I can tell, the pads from any of these models are likely to fit. The image is from brainwavzaudio website.

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Heat added anyway.
Edited by: "Daniel42" 8th Jan
kremix08/01/2020 18:59

I do prefer amazon's colour version actually. They might need some slight …I do prefer amazon's colour version actually. They might need some slight bass boost depending on the music. Look into the sennheiser outlet stock.


I prefer them too.
Bass seems fine to me but boosted slightly with my mate 20x settings. But then I haven't changed it since my last headphones
Returns occasionally on their own site for £65
fiqqer08/01/2020 18:08

Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.To get …Brilliant price for new. I paid £89 for a B grade from Sennheiser.To get these sounding their best you need a preamp - luckily there is a free android player - NRG player which includes a software pre-amp. you only need to adjust the setting slightly to get these sounding perfect. It also includes a graphic equaliser so you can tailor the sound to your requirement. Without the preamp adjustment the sound - neutral (flat)It is the pre-amp that needs adjusting rather than the graphic equaliser. Mine is set to 20% with treble boost on 8db and bass boost on 3db


This sounds great but I'm presuming the likes of Spotify can't be run through this app?
Also bear in mind the sound quality depends on the source. These headphones will find out poor quality recordings. anything less then 320 kbps will sound poor. With FLAC and WAV and other high quality recording the sound is true to life.
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