SHARP LC50LD266K 50" LED TV from Currys  £329.00 web exclusive price
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SHARP LC50LD266K 50" LED TV from Currys £329.00 web exclusive price

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Found 13th Nov 2014
Decent Sharp 50 inch LED TV with HD tuner and 100Hz active motion for this price, delivered, seemed like a really good deal to me. The TV also plays multimedia files from USB

Same TV on amazon is 70 quid more:

amazon.co.uk/Sha…MDM

More details on the TV here:

sharp.co.uk/cps…111



£349.00
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The motion rate on this is actually 50Hz, 'processing' rate is 100Hz.
Edited by: "Fuzzy-Dunlop" 13th Nov 2014

Its a cheap price for a decent brand big TV you cant really fault it.

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DealHunter_

The motion rate is actually 50Hz, 'processing' rate is 100Hz.



Eh?

ewaawoowaa

Eh?



You wrote in the description 100Hz motion, it's actually 50Hz motion rate. The 100Hz is the 'processing' rate (i.e. 'Marketing').

It's in the specs on the Currys website

Edited by: "Fuzzy-Dunlop" 13th Nov 2014

Original Poster

DealHunter_

You wrote in the description 100Hz motion, it's actually 50Hz motion … You wrote in the description 100Hz motion, it's actually 50Hz motion rate. The 100Hz is the 'processing' rate (i.e 'marketing').It's in the specs on the Currys website



And what is the difference between the terms?

I was going off the sharp website that simply says "Active Motion(Hz): 100". It makes no distinction between motion and processing.

ewaawoowaa

And what is the difference between the terms?I was going off the sharp … And what is the difference between the terms?I was going off the sharp website that simply says "Active Motion(Hz): 100". It makes no distinction between motion and processing.



Active motion is the processing rate in this case. Manufacturer's often use marketing terms such as 'active motion rate', 'clear motion rate' etc. and put a higher number in front of it because your average consumer will think the higher the number the better. But this isn't the actual refresh rate of the TV, this is the marketing rate achieved by using the TV's image processing or motion handling functions to give a larger number as possible to entice the consumer to buy.

So in this case, the actual motion rate is 50Hz, the 'processing' (marketing) rate is 100Hz.

If you google it you will easily find more explanations in depth if you need.

Hope this helps

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DealHunter_

Active motion is the processing rate in this case. Manufacturer's often … Active motion is the processing rate in this case. Manufacturer's often use marketing terms such as 'active motion rate', 'clear motion rate' etc. and put a higher number in front of it because your average consumer will think the higher the number the better. But this isn't the actual refresh rate of the TV, this is the marketing rate achieved by using the TV's image processing or motion handling functions to give a larger number as possible to entice the consumer to buy.So in this case, the actual motion rate is 50Hz, the 'processing' (marketing) rate is 100Hz.If you google it you will easily find more explanations in depth if you need.Hope this helps



So what will this sharp TV be doing to say it is 100Hz? Is it putting approximated frames in between the source frames?

If it is then I don't see the con there. I have such a function on my TV and it works very well for football.

ewaawoowaa

So what will this sharp TV be doing to say it is 100Hz? Is it putting … So what will this sharp TV be doing to say it is 100Hz? Is it putting approximated frames in between the source frames?If it is then I don't see the con there. I have such a function on my TV and it works very well for football.



Essentially yes, that's what it is doing, inserting frames between the source frames. It's not a con per se, but it is important to know the difference. All modern TV's wil have an actual refresh rate and a processing (marketing) rate. Sharp calls the processing rate 'Active Motion, Samsung calls it 'Clear Motion', LG calls it 'Tru Motion' etc.

The problems that processing can create is they can create input lag when gaming on some TV's for example. Thats why it is always best to get a higher actual refresh rate compared to looking at the processing rates.

I wasn't having a dig at your post btw, just pointing out the difference between the two for those who are not aware

Edited by: "Fuzzy-Dunlop" 13th Nov 2014

Original Poster

DealHunter_

Essentially yes, that's what it is doing, inserting frames between the … Essentially yes, that's what it is doing, inserting frames between the source frames. It's not a con per se, but it is important to know the difference. All modern TV's wil have an actual refresh rate and a processing (marketing) rate. Sharp calls the processing rate 'Active Motion, Samsung calls it 'Clear Motion', LG calls it 'Tru Motion' etc. The problems that processing can create is they can create input lag when gaming on some TV's for example. Thats why it is always best to get a higher actual refresh rate compared to looking at the processing rates.



But this is about the use of the word motion. Whats wrong with saying 100Hz motion about this TV when it is clear from the fact it is being mentioned that it is a processing figure?

Currys should really say that the native refresh rate is 50, not the motion rate.

The reason I specifically mentioned the 100Hz in the OP is because there are still competing TVs that have no interpolation technology in them. For example the 50 inch hitachi smart TV that is currently being discussed on here is simply 50Hz with no processing at all.

I have amended my OP to say "100Hz active motion" for clarity.
Edited by: "ewaawoowaa" 13th Nov 2014

ewaawoowaa

But this is about the use of the word motion. Whats wrong with saying … But this is about the use of the word motion. Whats wrong with saying 100Hz motion about this TV when it is clear from the fact it is being mentioned that it is a processing figure?Currys should really say that the native refresh rate is 50, not the motion rate.The reason I specifically mentioned the 100Hz in the OP is because there are still competing TVs that have no interpolation technology in them. For example the 50 inch hitachi smart TV that is currently being discussed on here is simply 50Hz with no processing at all.I have amended my OP to say "100Hz active motion" for clarity.



I was just pointing out the difference between actual refresh rates and processing rates for those who are not aware. I wasn't having a dig at your post btw

Original Poster

DealHunter_

I was just pointing out the difference between actual refresh rates and … I was just pointing out the difference between actual refresh rates and processing rates for those who are not aware. I wasn't having a dig at your post btw



Refresh rates are confusing at the best of times.

What happens if you feed this TV a 60Hz signal???

ewaawoowaa

Refresh rates are confusing at the best of times.What happens if you feed … Refresh rates are confusing at the best of times.What happens if you feed this TV a 60Hz signal???



It will work fine. It's a requirement for all HD TV's to support both 50Hz and 60Hz signals. The TV will switch automatically between the 50Hz and 60Hz modes depending on the video signal you are watching. You will notice the TV screen going blank for a couple seconds as it switches between 50Hz/60Hz modes.

I'm going to head off now, Have a nice day
Edited by: "Fuzzy-Dunlop" 13th Nov 2014

come on guys its a 50inch tv for 329 who cares what the refresh rate is. its a bargain. nice find op just wish i saw it 2 weeks ago as i bought the 46inch from argot for 279 and to be fair the pic quality is pretty good.

This is not a proper Sharp TV just a re badged Vestel i believe, that not be a bad thing but dont think you are getting a Sharp TV like the old days

derbywiiman

come on guys its a 50inch tv for 329 who cares what the refresh rate is. … come on guys its a 50inch tv for 329 who cares what the refresh rate is. its a bargain. nice find op just wish i saw it 2 weeks ago as i bought the 46inch from argot for 279 and to be fair the pic quality is pretty good.

If you where to offer to deliver this to some on here and give it away, they would still moan. Great price for a branded 50" TV

Only the Bush in Argos for £319 for 50" beats this on price unless anyone can think of any others?

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deanos

This is not a proper Sharp TV just a re badged Vestel i believe, that not … This is not a proper Sharp TV just a re badged Vestel i believe, that not be a bad thing but dont think you are getting a Sharp TV like the old days



Do you have a source for this?

derbywiiman

come on guys its a 50inch tv for 329 who cares what the refresh rate is. … come on guys its a 50inch tv for 329 who cares what the refresh rate is. its a bargain. nice find op just wish i saw it 2 weeks ago as i bought the 46inch from argot for 279 and to be fair the pic quality is pretty good.



steviecross

If you where to offer to deliver this to some on here and give it away, … If you where to offer to deliver this to some on here and give it away, they would still moan. Great price for a branded 50" TV



Just to be clear nobody was complaining or moaning, just clearing up the facts
Edited by: "Fuzzy-Dunlop" 13th Nov 2014

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Ross81

Only the Bush in Argos for £319 for 50" beats this on price unless anyone … Only the Bush in Argos for £319 for 50" beats this on price unless anyone can think of any others?



You would be mad to get a bush over a sharp for the sake of 10 quid.

This one isn't a Vestel, you can tell by the remote and pictures of the rear input layout. I doubt its a proper Sharp made set though. Their newer 50" thin range (including passive 3D sets) are Vestel made.

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deanos

The cheaper sets have been made by Vestel for years … The cheaper sets have been made by Vestel for years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestel "Sharp Some entry level TV sets from Sharp are manufactured by Vestel."http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/vestel-takes-over-sharps-europe-brand.aspx?pageID=238&nID=72225&NewsCatID=345



That deal only started in September this year so these TVs won't be vestel.

Any reviews of this tv anywhere ?

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LOUGHBORO GUY

Any reviews of this tv anywhere ?



I found this

avplay.avforums.com/thr…71/

ewaawoowaa

That deal only started in September this year so these TVs won't be … That deal only started in September this year so these TVs won't be vestel.



Nope, they have been making re badged Sharps for a number of years on the lower models like this one , easy way to tell is by where its made on the back, higher end ones are made in japan, cheaper ones in turkey by vestel
Edited by: "deanos" 13th Nov 2014

deanos

Nope, they have been making re badged Sharps for a number of years on the … Nope, they have been making re badged Sharps for a number of years on the lower models like this one , easy way to tell is by where its made on the back, higher end ones are made in japan, cheaper ones in turkey by vestel



This one isn't a Vestel.

thanks for the info

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The easiest way to tell a Vestel is by the inputs on the rear, if they look something like this:

assets.sharp.eu/pro…jpg

or this:

http://assets.sharp.eu/product_images/960/img-p-lc-50le760-761-detail02-960.jpg

Its a Vestel, they all have the same or similar layouts regardless of brand as they all use the same boards/chassis. You could find a 40" Toshiba and 40" Technika side by side in Tesco, they would both essentially be identical but you would pay £100+ more for the Toshiba for the name on the front.

Here's an example of a current Vestel made Sharp:

sharp.co.uk/cps…111

freakstyler

This one isn't a Vestel.



Well I didn't know that. You just got me crawling behind my TV to look at the back of our Sharp Sound bar. MADE IN MALAYSIA. Is Vestel a bad thing though, as I've never really heard of them.

Great price by the way!

Edited by: "SoggyBeans" 13th Nov 2014

Its large and cheap from a reputable brand. You really cant complain for the money.

Looks a great deal for a 50" can you still get £20 off from O2?

Vessel are fine they make good cheap tvs. As has been said, sharp, Hitachi, Bush, ISIS, Tecknika etc etc are quite likely to be rebadged vestels..
There's a list online somewhere.. Maybe Wikipedia..?

*vestel

£30 off a £300 spend in currys but in store only not sure if it would work?

I've got the 42" and the picture is great. The sound is terrible. I would only want to watch this with a soundbase or home cinema system (which I have so its all good :-) )

kevcal

Vessel are fine they make good cheap tvs. As has been said, sharp, … Vessel are fine they make good cheap tvs. As has been said, sharp, Hitachi, Bush, ISIS, Tecknika etc etc are quite likely to be rebadged vestels.. There's a list online somewhere.. Maybe Wikipedia..?

How long do they last ???

SoggyBeans

Well I didn't know that. You just got me crawling behind my TV to look … Well I didn't know that. You just got me crawling behind my TV to look at the back of our Sharp Sound bar. MADE IN MALAYSIA. Is Vestel a bad thing though, as I've never really heard of them.Great price by the way!



Vestel TV's are basically generic sets made as cheaply as possible. They often use poor quality, mismatched components on their (poorly designed) boards and they never last, electronically they're barely adequate at best. Its very annoying to think someone will buy a Vestel made Sharp, thinking they're getting Japanese quality (in most cases also paying top dollar) when that couldn't be further from the truth.

If you can get them cheap enough its not all bad, the £260 50" Polaroid was excellent Value a while back.

But haven't the big name Japanese brands like Sony and Panasonic been making their TVs at various plants all over Europe for a while now?

In the old days cheap manufacturing often meant problems. Nowadays, that's no longer a fact and it's perfectly possible to have a cheap, no name product that is just as good as one with a posh name.

In the late 80s & 90s everybody wanted Japanese big names on VCRs, CD players etc over those from elsewhere but were oblivious to the fact almost all were made in the same set of factories by an unknown company called Matsushita (IIRC). Before the Internet people didn't have such easy access to the information and were blissfully ignorant to how much some companies ripped them off by using a posh name. To many people the 'big name so must be better' mindset still applies.

Yes, at the highest price tier there is a definite difference because fewer are made and often to a tighter specification but at low (relative) prices like these the differences are minimal for two alike sets.
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