SIM FREE 4G Kestrel phone From EE £89.99 at @ chitterchatter
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SIM FREE 4G Kestrel phone From EE £89.99 at @ chitterchatter

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Found 27th Oct 2014
SIM FREE 4G Kestrel phone From EE £89.99 at chitterchatter.co.uk/

Features

4.5" Touch Screen
Quad Core processor
CPU speed 1200.0 MHz
8 GB Internal Memory, microSD Slot
5 MP Camera with Large, Bright Screen
Powerful Performance, Smooth UI
Audio support
Music player
Video streaming
4G Ready
Android 4.3 (Jelly Bean) Software

40 Comments

No Doubt these will "Fly" off the shelves

Doesn't say unlocked only six free

bodley59

Doesn't say unlocked only sim free

+ 3% TCB/Quidco bringing it down to £81

is this gonna be unlocked or not if its an ee branded phone

Original Poster

Sorry , I thought Sim free means Unlockedhttp://www.marketingdonut.co.uk/sites/default/files/sorryonapostitnote_249.png



Edited by: "mcseguy" 27th Oct 2014

bodley59



Is that not the same thing?

Original Poster

Unlocked and SIM free are two terms used to describe phones that are not provided with a SIM card. The major difference is that unlocked phones have had any restrictions removed so that they can work with any network, whereas SIM free phones are simply not provided with a SIM card and they may or may not be tied to a network. Unlocked phones may still have the original network’s branding and menu system, which can affect functionality, and they are often older than SIM free models. SIM free phones often have the manufacturer’s menu system and may be available in the latest models. Being tied to a network can reduce the cost of a handset, while SIM free phones can be expensive if they are not linked to a network. Phones may be described as both unlocked and SIM free, and these can be used on any network.

ebay.co.uk/gds…tml

If you look on the EE ebay shop (sorry I'm at work so cannot post a link) they have these on offer.

99.99 but includes £10 airtime

or

the better deal potentially of the phone with £20 M&S voucher for the same price of £99.99

Sim free just means that it comes without a sim. Could still Be locked to EE

this is a re badged phone from a smaller company.as such it will be locked to ee

Gollywood

Sim free just means that it comes without a sim. Could still Be locked to … Sim free just means that it comes without a sim. Could still Be locked to EE



Sim free usually means handset comes as it is from manufacturer with no SIM lock or Network branding.

raj75

Sim free usually means handset comes as it is from manufacturer with no … Sim free usually means handset comes as it is from manufacturer with no SIM lock or Network branding.



not really. it depends where bought and what handset.

iphones are sim free. but buy from a network store (such as 02 or carphonewarehouse) and they sim lock to the first sim put in them). However buy sim free from apple and they wont.

buying most android phones sim free will normally be sim unlocked as well (there is no link to these though).

normally buying PAYG will have a sim lock whereas sim free from somewhere neutral such as carphonewarehouse wont.

the ee kestrel is specific to the ee network, much like their old san fransicos (if you remember them).. they will be highly subsidised by ee and as such they wont be sim unlocked.

moral of the story is - ask before you buy if you're not sure!

My impression of Simfree is that it's a unlocked generic handset with no network bloat ware. If this is being sold via EE then the chances are it will be locked to EE. Although three UK have started selling their handsets and tablets unlocked.

The phone is locked to EE.

actually looks like a decent phone, can they be unlocked?

unlock code £1.99-£2.99 ebay

Surely the easiest was to resolve this is to buy one, try any SIM in it, and if it wont work then send it back under the distance selling regulations.

cold....not Moto g....

doncoop

this is a re badged phone from a smaller company.as such it will be … this is a re badged phone from a smaller company.as such it will be locked to ee



bigger company actually, huawei is HUUUUUGE

Even if it had 1gb ram, i doubt its worth 4x idol mini ( net ) they also sell
Edited by: "logohigh" 30th Oct 2014

So this over the Moto E then... Hmm.

For a review! http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone/3525161/ee-kestrel-review/

Sim free used to mean "unlocked", but thanks to the likes of EE, this no longer means this! Just means you don't get a contract - so a push towards the people who'd rather have PAYG.

Frankly, I'd rather get a good 2nd hand phone for the same price, but of a lot better make.


Edited by: "FinderOfDeals" 30th Oct 2014

Android 4.3? That is two versions out of date, and a sure indicator that this phone will receive no support. You can do better even at this price.

mcseguy

Unlocked and SIM free are two terms used to describe phones that are not … Unlocked and SIM free are two terms used to describe phones that are not provided with a SIM card. The major difference is that unlocked phones have had any restrictions removed so that they can work with any network, whereas SIM free phones are simply not provided with a SIM card and they may or may not be tied to a network. Unlocked phones may still have the original network’s branding and menu system, which can affect functionality, and they are often older than SIM free models. SIM free phones often have the manufacturer’s menu system and may be available in the latest models. Being tied to a network can reduce the cost of a handset, while SIM free phones can be expensive if they are not linked to a network. Phones may be described as both unlocked and SIM free, and these can be used on any network.http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/What-Are-the-Differences-Between-Unlocked-and-SIM-Free-Mobiles-and-Smartphones-/10000000177589819/g.html



"..........have had any restrictions removed............" You mean restrictions not put on as EE doesn't mfg these someone else does and then EE puts their loather plus the lock on it.

Just to let people know these phones are heavily locked down, if you root it and mess it up there isn't a way of flashing the stock ROM back on the phone at the moment, also to my surprise there is no one developing anything on the custom ROM scene which is a disappointment as its a capable phone at a good price.

Why would you though , would it give it much more functionality at all ??

or is custom rom a hobby

Price isn't too bad but at this level surely one of the Moto G models is better. Or a Lumia 625 from CPW for £70. Great phone for the money.

Is this Kestrel 'Super Strengh?' :burp:

rnr81

bigger company actually, huawei is HUUUUUGE



Yep Huawei (Wah-wee) are a huge company and this phone is a rebadged Huawei Ascend G6.

orgfilao

EliTom



my god thats a depressing flim

Bejeezus

What does Sim Free mean?..http://www.expansys.com/blog/?p=1492



I think it means they don't charge you any extra for the sim.

Taksim_Red

I think it means they don't charge you any extra for the sim.



rnr81

bigger company actually, huawei is HUUUUUGE



Seriously though - buy a Moto G - Huwawei phones suck - take it from someone who had owned 2

This is a re-badged Ascend G535 by the looks of it - rather than an Ascend G6 (as someone mentioned earlier).

I'm also considering the similarly-priced (£96) Ascend P6, which compares favourably to the G535 (or this Kestrel offering) except for the 4G support perhaps. I don't need 4G, so the P6 is looking like the best of the lot (sorry, don't like the Moto G design).

This compared to the P6: gsmarena.com/com…hp3?idPhone1=5467&idPhone2=6678

£96 P6 offer: Hauwei Ascend P6 2GB RAM 8GB ROM £96 @ O2

4.2 of P6 also upgradeable to 4.4.2 KK: http://huaweinews.com/2014/06/ascend-p6-b510-official/

Free unlock code for P6 obtained by schnecker from O2 in the other thread.

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P.S. And of course there's this one to consider too:
HTC Desire 610 (4G) £99 on Pay as you go @ Vodafone
Edited by: "Crossbow" 30th Oct 2014

ja686

Is that not the same thing?



No, sim free could mean the phone gets locked to the network of the first sim. Unlocked doesnt

mcseguy

Unlocked and SIM free are two terms used to describe phones that are not … Unlocked and SIM free are two terms used to describe phones that are not provided with a SIM card. The major difference is that unlocked phones have had any restrictions removed so that they can work with any network, whereas SIM free phones are simply not provided with a SIM card and they may or may not be tied to a network. Unlocked phones may still have the original network’s branding and menu system, which can affect functionality, and they are often older than SIM free models. SIM free phones often have the manufacturer’s menu system and may be available in the latest models. Being tied to a network can reduce the cost of a handset, while SIM free phones can be expensive if they are not linked to a network. Phones may be described as both unlocked and SIM free, and these can be used on any network.http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/What-Are-the-Differences-Between-Unlocked-and-SIM-Free-Mobiles-and-Smartphones-/10000000177589819/g.html



ebays definition - as a 2nd hand marketplace - is likely to be a little different to that of a new stock retailer. on ebay 'sim free' could indeed mean 'my old phone but i'm keeping the sim' This is hardly likely to apply to a new stock retailer.

though ebay show themselves up in 2nd paragraph - "sim free phones .... may be older than sim free phones"
Edited by: "andiejn" 31st Oct 2014

how does this compare to the orange San Diego?

kestrel much better
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