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This item is a professionally refurbished, A-Grade, Argos Manager Special - our top grade of refurbished item!

This product may have minor cosmetic marks or scratches. These will not hinder the functionality.

The item might have non-original accessories.
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Network:
  • Network provider: Sim free.
  • 4G network capability.
  • SIM card type: nano SIM.

Display and Design
:
  • 6.21 inch LCD display.
  • Resolution 2340 x 1080 pixels.
  • With a density of 415 pixels per inch.
  • Touch screen.
  • Toughened glass.

Dimensions:

  • Size H155.2, W73.4, D7.95mm.
  • Weight 155.2g.

Camera and Video:
  • Dual camera.
  • Front camera 8MP.
  • Rear camera 13MP.
  • Second rear camera 2MP.
  • LED.
  • Camera features: AI powered.
  • Video capture in 1080p HD quality.

Storage:
  • Internal memory 64GB.
  • Expandable memory up to 512GB when using microSD card slot. Boost your storage to hold more tunes, holiday snaps and extra apps.

Technical specifications:
  • 2.2GHz octa core .
  • 3GB RAM.
  • Operating system: Android Android 9.

Battery:
  • Up to 653 hours standby time.
  • Up to 1500 minutes talk time.
  • 3400mAh battery capacity.

Product features:
  • MP3 and MP4 player.
  • Headphone port.
  • This phone features fast charge technology - faster than standard charging, for when time is of the essence.
  • Contactless payment Link up your card to your phone for easy buying on purchases up to £30.
  • Fingerprint scanner For simple, safe and speedy unlocking and better security.

Connectivity:
  • Wi-Fi.
  • Bluetooth.
  • NFC.
  • GPS.

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PhilKelix216/08/2019 08:38

Wouldn't trust Huawei with a tin of beans never mind my personal life.


Given the amount of Huawei infrastructure out there, it's probably best that you avoid all access to fixed line and mobile networks.
Edited by: "dreamypuma" 16th Aug
PhilKelix216/08/2019 08:38

Wouldn't trust Huawei with a tin of beans never mind my personal life.


And other phone makers are more trustworthy (ie Apple for ex) how, exactly ?
PhilKelix216/08/2019 08:53

Yes.Because they're not steeped in espionage and also not in the Chinese …Yes.Because they're not steeped in espionage and also not in the Chinese government's pocket.https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/14/huawei-technicians-spy-uganda-zambia-opponents/https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/22/huawei-helped-build-north-korea-cellphone-network/https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/20/cia-claims-huawei-funded-by-chinese-state-security/https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/28/uk-report-huawei-security-concerns/https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/01/canada-allows-huawei-cfo-extradition/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/30/huawei-t-mobile-emails-espionage-tappy-robot-steal-2012/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/28/us-huawei-charges-trade-secrets-sanction-violations-china/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/12/huawei-fires-employee-arrested-in-poland-over-spying/And that's just from 2019. These kind of things have been going on at Huawei for decades. Trust them at your own peril.


I can link a whole load of articles extolling the virtues of Donald Trump as a viable statesman, but my own eyes and ears provide me with enough evidence to the contrary, so not everything that's quoted online is gospel, nor is it all fake news, somewhere in between lies the truth, not sure I have anything much to hide that's going to stop me using Huawei products.
PhilKelix216/08/2019 09:52

All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes …All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes through a VPN so I'm good thanks.


Sadly you're not. No one is. Most VPN server structure is integrated using Chinese technology. You can never know for sure, even the VPN company cannot tell you as they franchise most of their equipment.
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If Argos Manager Special items can have marks or scratches, I prefer not to think about those items not graded AMS.

Stupid, abusive marketing...they seem to think we're like fools/children, appalling

Price is good so voted hot anyway, good work OP
Edited by: "xavierluther" 15th Aug
Be careful with argos refurbished. I bought a Samsung tab a once and it arrived covered in scratches. Sent it back and ordered another one and it was pristine. They can be a mixed bag.
Good deal this for decent phone
Heat added it's a very capable phone at this price point
My son has this - the battery life is very good and performance isn't bad. This is a great price!
Wouldn't trust Huawei with a tin of beans never mind my personal life.
PhilKelix216/08/2019 08:38

Wouldn't trust Huawei with a tin of beans never mind my personal life.


And other phone makers are more trustworthy (ie Apple for ex) how, exactly ?
PhilK16/08/2019 08:46

And other phone makers are more trustworthy (ie Apple for ex) how, exactly …And other phone makers are more trustworthy (ie Apple for ex) how, exactly ?


Yes.

Because they're not steeped in espionage and also not in the Chinese government's pocket.

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And that's just from 2019. These kind of things have been going on at Huawei for decades. Trust them at your own peril.
PhilKelix216/08/2019 08:53

Yes.Because they're not steeped in espionage and also not in the Chinese …Yes.Because they're not steeped in espionage and also not in the Chinese government's pocket.https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/14/huawei-technicians-spy-uganda-zambia-opponents/https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/22/huawei-helped-build-north-korea-cellphone-network/https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/20/cia-claims-huawei-funded-by-chinese-state-security/https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/28/uk-report-huawei-security-concerns/https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/01/canada-allows-huawei-cfo-extradition/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/30/huawei-t-mobile-emails-espionage-tappy-robot-steal-2012/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/28/us-huawei-charges-trade-secrets-sanction-violations-china/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/12/huawei-fires-employee-arrested-in-poland-over-spying/And that's just from 2019. These kind of things have been going on at Huawei for decades. Trust them at your own peril.


I can link a whole load of articles extolling the virtues of Donald Trump as a viable statesman, but my own eyes and ears provide me with enough evidence to the contrary, so not everything that's quoted online is gospel, nor is it all fake news, somewhere in between lies the truth, not sure I have anything much to hide that's going to stop me using Huawei products.
u10219916/08/2019 09:38

I can link a whole load of articles extolling the virtues of Donald Trump …I can link a whole load of articles extolling the virtues of Donald Trump as a viable statesman, but my own eyes and ears provide me with enough evidence to the contrary, so not everything that's quoted online is gospel, nor is it all fake news, somewhere in between lies the truth, not sure I have anything much to hide that's going to stop me using Huawei products.


Nice attempt at deflection.

"I have nothing to hide"

Yes you do. All of your personal and private information.

What "eyes and ears" inputs are telling you Huawei is trustworthy?
Edited by: "PhilKelix2" 16th Aug
PhilKelix216/08/2019 08:38

Wouldn't trust Huawei with a tin of beans never mind my personal life.


Given the amount of Huawei infrastructure out there, it's probably best that you avoid all access to fixed line and mobile networks.
Edited by: "dreamypuma" 16th Aug
dreamypuma16/08/2019 09:46

Given the amount of Huawei infrastructure out there, it's probably best …Given the amount of Huawei infrastructure out there, it's probably best that you avoid all access to fixed line and mobile networks.


All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes through a VPN so I'm good thanks.
PhilKelix216/08/2019 09:52

All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes …All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes through a VPN so I'm good thanks.


Sadly you're not. No one is. Most VPN server structure is integrated using Chinese technology. You can never know for sure, even the VPN company cannot tell you as they franchise most of their equipment.
Mark_Baker16/08/2019 10:00

Sadly you're not. No one is. Most VPN server structure is integrated using …Sadly you're not. No one is. Most VPN server structure is integrated using Chinese technology. You can never know for sure, even the VPN company cannot tell you as they franchise most of their equipment.


Well it's a risk I'm willing to take in order to have internet access. if it's unavoidable then it's unavoidable, nothing I can do about it.

However, Huawei phones are very avoidable.
Got one of these for the wife as a work phone and she is an avid Apple fan but even she is impressed with it, for this sort of money...been posted. Don't worry about the Huawei scaremongering, it's all political/trade tit for tat. What exactly are the Chinese going to do with YOUR information/details???? Probably the same as Apple/Google etc......
I'm currently rocking the Huawei P Smart 2017-18 that is an Argos Refurb. All of their phones are grade A and by that I mean they could pass as brand new. Mine was as if it had never been touched, original box and cable, they just don't come with chargers or headphones. At this price I'd be all over this if I hadn't had this one long. Hot.
Smoggy197016/08/2019 10:52

Don't worry about the Huawei scaremongering, it's all political/trade tit …Don't worry about the Huawei scaremongering, it's all political/trade tit for tat.


It really isn't.
PhilKelix216/08/2019 11:15

It really isn't.


So why aren't Huawei devices banned from sale in the UK?
Smoggy197016/08/2019 11:46

So why aren't Huawei devices banned from sale in the UK?


Because they haven't banned them.
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grifftim16/08/2019 10:44

That link is for a xiaomi phone.


My mistake, posted to a wrong thread. There is a separate Mi A2 lite deal. Deleted from here
There is apparently legitimate uses of things like Facebook that influences people over issues like Brexit, for example, that are more of a concern to me, you appear to be in the first instance, concerned about something you feel is in your control, then when told it actually isn't in your control, it's a risk you're willing to take, same data going into the unknown ether regardless of the make of phone that sent it there.
u10219916/08/2019 12:39

There is apparently legitimate uses of things like Facebook that …There is apparently legitimate uses of things like Facebook that influences people over issues like Brexit, for example, that are more of a concern to me, you appear to be in the first instance, concerned about something you feel is in your control, then when told it actually isn't in your control, it's a risk you're willing to take, same data going into the unknown ether regardless of the make of phone that sent it there.


Internet is a necessity so I have no choice but to take the risk of using it. You can only control what you have control over, in this instance, phone and OS.

If you think that your data goes to the same places regardless of whether you use an iPhone or a Huawei phone then you've got another thing coming.
PhilKelix216/08/2019 12:44

Internet is a necessity so I have no choice but to take the risk of using …Internet is a necessity so I have no choice but to take the risk of using it. You can only control what you have control over, in this instance, phone and OS.If you think that your data goes to the same places regardless of whether you use an iPhone or a Huawei phone then you've got another thing coming.


Not sure we're going to agree on this one, but for my education, can you provide me with a real example of how owning one of these phones has negatively impacted someone?
u10219916/08/2019 12:51

Not sure we're going to agree on this one, but for my education, can you …Not sure we're going to agree on this one, but for my education, can you provide me with a real example of how owning one of these phones has negatively impacted someone?


I can't, but that doesn't mean a) it's not happening and b) the Chinese government aren't collecting all users data, which is unsettling and could impact someone at any point in the future in any number of ways.

Indirect negative impact could manifest in the form of your amazon/mail/PSN accounts being hacked. Direct negative impact could manifest itself in the form of your personal and private information being "leaked" online for all to see.

We're living in a privacy nightmare as it is, the last thing we need is to add China to that list.
PhilKelix216/08/2019 12:59

I can't, but that doesn't mean a) it's not happening and b) the Chinese …I can't, but that doesn't mean a) it's not happening and b) the Chinese government aren't collecting all users data, which is unsettling and could impact someone at any point in the future in any number of ways.Indirect negative impact could manifest in the form of your amazon/mail/PSN accounts being hacked. Direct negative impact could manifest itself in the form of your personal and private information being "leaked" online for all to see.We're living in a privacy nightmare as it is, the last thing we need is to add China to that list.


Suppose it comes down to who you "feel" you can trust then.
I'll sum my end up as, I'm not sure I feel I can trust the Chinese any less than I trust the Americans or anyone else come to that. Give me some hard data to the contrary and I promise I will change my ways, until then, 3rd Huawei device on order, no known hacks in 3 years.
It has been a good discussion though, and thanks for that.
u10219916/08/2019 13:10

I'm not sure I feel I can trust the Chinese any less than I trust the …I'm not sure I feel I can trust the Chinese any less than I trust the Americans or anyone else come to that.


Summed up nicely.
So when it's widely acknowledged that the countries that spy most heavily on their citizens illegally without their consent are the 5 eyes UK, USA, New Zealand, Canada, Australia . All of this was exposed beyond doubt by Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, Wikileaks etc. NSA PRISM, Xkeyscore etc etc ring any bells ? China are the least of your worries... The Huawei stuff is nothing more than a struggle for the USA to try and control the emerging 5G market they cannot compete with the Chinese on technology or price USA tech is 2 years behind Huawei on 5G tech.
Smoggy197016/08/2019 11:46

So why aren't Huawei devices banned from sale in the UK?


Because the US of A, had not taken ownership of the UK yet.. that will be on Oct 31st
Dm3816/08/2019 13:36

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It's almost as if you've missed the entire point or something...
Is that a human or an alien? Whatever it is I like the phone.
Edited by: "supermann" 16th Aug
Thanks for posting @benhornsby1999 we have added this to the Highlights pages
andywedge16/08/2019 20:28

Thanks for posting @benhornsby1999 we have added this to the Highlights …Thanks for posting @benhornsby1999 we have added this to the Highlights pages


Cheers @andywedge and no prob
PhilKelix216/08/2019 08:53

Yes.Because they're not steeped in espionage and also not in the Chinese …Yes.Because they're not steeped in espionage and also not in the Chinese government's pocket.https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/14/huawei-technicians-spy-uganda-zambia-opponents/https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/22/huawei-helped-build-north-korea-cellphone-network/https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/20/cia-claims-huawei-funded-by-chinese-state-security/https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/28/uk-report-huawei-security-concerns/https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/01/canada-allows-huawei-cfo-extradition/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/30/huawei-t-mobile-emails-espionage-tappy-robot-steal-2012/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/28/us-huawei-charges-trade-secrets-sanction-violations-china/https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/12/huawei-fires-employee-arrested-in-poland-over-spying/And that's just from 2019. These kind of things have been going on at Huawei for decades. Trust them at your own peril.


I don't think you understand the issues though.

Mobile phones can be broken down into components and all phones consist of these components. Obviously the components vary between phones in spec and quality but ultimately the issue is with Huawei an their infrastructure, which carries data, and how it deals with that data and where it goes.

There is NOTHING out there to indicate that Huawei phones have any components that somehow send data where it shouldn't. Given that there are thousands of people capably dissecting these phones all over the world and replacing components, and people who doubtless take them apart for fun, I'm sure any odd components would have been spotted by now!

Not buying a Huawei phone for moral reasons is one thing, not buying it because you are worried that it is less secure than anyone elses Android phone is missing the whole Huawei issue completely. It would be like buying a Mars bars from Morrisons petrol station because you were worried that Sainsbury's fuel had been contaminated by water and that could affect a Mars bar bought there. It's a complete nonsense.
PhilKelix216/08/2019 09:52

All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes …All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes through a VPN so I'm good thanks.


and you have the tin foil hat for back up, so you are all good!
Great phone this
PhilKelix216/08/2019 09:52

All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes …All of my important information is end-to-end encrypted and the rest goes through a VPN so I'm good thanks.


I'm not saying Huawei are spying on you but no amount of end-to-end encryption or vpns will help you if your device is rooted, they could literally intercept every keystroke/tap or read data straight from memory and send to their servers.
jimlad2116/08/2019 21:23

and you have the tin foil hat for back up, so you are all good!



If you were to actually read my replies I’ve cited plenty of reliable sources to back up my statements.

and here’s one more for good measure

en.m.wikipedia.org/wik…wei

If you believe this is some sort of conspiracy then more fool you
Edited by: "PhilKelix2" 17th Aug
DominicPTS16/08/2019 20:56

I don't think you understand the issues though.Mobile phones can be broken …I don't think you understand the issues though.Mobile phones can be broken down into components and all phones consist of these components. Obviously the components vary between phones in spec and quality but ultimately the issue is with Huawei an their infrastructure, which carries data, and how it deals with that data and where it goes.There is NOTHING out there to indicate that Huawei phones have any components that somehow send data where it shouldn't. Given that there are thousands of people capably dissecting these phones all over the world and replacing components, and people who doubtless take them apart for fun, I'm sure any odd components would have been spotted by now!Not buying a Huawei phone for moral reasons is one thing, not buying it because you are worried that it is less secure than anyone elses Android phone is missing the whole Huawei issue completely. It would be like buying a Mars bars from Morrisons petrol station because you were worried that Sainsbury's fuel had been contaminated by water and that could affect a Mars bar bought there. It's a complete nonsense.



Im actually talking about software but NVM
PhilKelix217/08/2019 09:14

Im actually talking about software but NVM


But you don't actually know what you're talking about, that's the problem
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