Simba Kingsize mattress (other sizes available) 25% off in Argos Black Friday sale - £531.20
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Simba Kingsize mattress (other sizes available) 25% off in Argos Black Friday sale - £531.20

£531.20£699 24% eBay Deals
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Found 17th Nov
Was looking about for one before girlfriend changed her mind. Its available on Argos eBay store with 25% off, all sizes are in the same but it was a KS we were looking at.
Please note that the Simba 100 day trial at home guarantee is not available via the eBay store, as I checked with Argos - I think you can try them in John Lewis stores not sure if you can elsewhere. Still pricey but if you know you want one, its a great saving.

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Great deal. Shame about the 100 night trial. I love mine and kept it!
If you need the trial, you can get 50 quid off by having it recommended directly by an owner.!

Paying over £500 for a mattress is not something to make a quick decision over.

This is definitely something to sleep on though. ;-)

the1stcoke6 m ago

Great deal. Shame about the 100 night trial. I love mine and kept it!If …Great deal. Shame about the 100 night trial. I love mine and kept it!If you need the trial, you can get 50 quid off by having it recommended directly by an owner.!


Or put it in your basket and close the site down, wait a day and you'll get an email asking why you didn't purchase it.. Via this email you would be able to get £75 off easily as thats what i got offered

I did the same but got £100 off.

A friend it mine said this was the worst mattress they had ever owned and an appalling company to deal with. I have no reason to disbelieve them.

MSK.6 m ago

A friend it mine said this was the worst mattress they had ever owned and …A friend it mine said this was the worst mattress they had ever owned and an appalling company to deal with. I have no reason to disbelieve them.


Is your friend named Scar by any chance?
Edited by: "adroit" 17th Nov

I've done a fair amount of research on these flat packed mattresses, there's alot of sales and marketing spent on these than R&D that goes into it..

If your keen, look into brands like EVA And Casper also. From here, there's other branch off brands. "copy if a copy"

Even the "original" Tempur memory foam mattress brand are not perfect for everyone so I'd suggest to go big or go home on this one.

I've ended up spending on a couple of ikea memory foam with different density of toppers. It's "OK", but I'd imagine what the above would feel similar without the flexibility of changing..

I do have a Tempur pillow and that's amazing. I just don't have the heart to dump over £1k on the bed yet...

Edit: this is normal price and not a deal btw. The price bracket for king is around £500-600 depending on discount codes which are active at the time (always on).
Edited by: "Inquisitor" 17th Nov

I've always thought that as i have nowhere to store my old mattress for 100 days, I would have to buy it even if I didn't like it

Much prefer the Casper (although it was a bit too firm) and Casper's customer service is a world apart from Simba.

Sending my Simba back - far too hot to lie on. Fortunately the 100 night guarentee can be used. Have ordered a hypnos mattress. I agree about the cost but this is an investment I am going to spend the most time in

These mattresses are not good for ventilation or your back.

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Inquisitor2 h, 7 m ago

I've done a fair amount of research on these flat packed mattresses, …I've done a fair amount of research on these flat packed mattresses, there's alot of sales and marketing spent on these than R&D that goes into it.. If your keen, look into brands like EVA And Casper also. From here, there's other branch off brands. "copy if a copy" Even the "original" Tempur memory foam mattress brand are not perfect for everyone so I'd suggest to go big or go home on this one. I've ended up spending on a couple of ikea memory foam with different density of toppers. It's "OK", but I'd imagine what the above would feel similar without the flexibility of changing.. I do have a Tempur pillow and that's amazing. I just don't have the heart to dump over £1k on the bed yet...Edit: this is normal price and not a deal btw. The price bracket for king is around £500-600 depending on discount codes which are active at the time (always on).


Can you provide evidence that this is normal price, as the RRP has been the price every time I have looked at them? Simba themselves would not price match Argos, instead saying 'we've got a free £75 mattress protector!" lol. I think I'd rather have £175 off, thanks. The always active discount codes tend to be £50 referral codes or from Simba.

We've not tried one of these so cant really say yet, but going to a John Lewis on Monday so will see them there I guess.
If they did the 100 day guarantee on these I'd be tempted to try it out so its a shame that they dont.
I'm not convinced they are all copies of a copy, as the reviews on forums where people have asked for opinions on them tend to say people tried a few and preferred one over another for XYZ, whether its firmness or sagging etc, so there does seem be be variations.

My first memory foam mattress I think I paid £799 for and it was amazing, but my ex persuaded me to change to a sprung one and it was murder going back to it. This current one is an ikea but gives my current girlfriend back ache. Trying to find a compromise!

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thedopeyone4 m ago

These mattresses are not good for ventilation or your back.


I think you'll need to provide a citation for a comment like that

Simba is just based on online marketing. Most reviews posted on their website are fake.

Even on John Lewis website, half of the reviews are fake...

No mattress would satisfy all people, so 99% of reviews being 5 stars is not realistic at all.

I tried myself the Simba mattress and it went back after a week: smell was horrible, and mattress was actually too hard, and way too hot (very common on memory foam mattresses, so don't believe for a second that Simba has solved that issue). At least, they took my old mattress back for free!

We ended up buying an Ikea HÖVÅG pocket sprung mattress for £180, and it's much better.
Edited by: "tomtomato" 17th Nov

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tomtomato5 m ago

Simba is just online marketing. Most reviews posted are fake on their …Simba is just online marketing. Most reviews posted are fake on their website.Even on John Lewis website, half of the reviews are fake...No mattress will satisfy all people, so 99% of reviews being 5 stars is not realistic at all.I tried myself the Simba mattress and it went back after a week.


Thats a fairly bold claim given that writing fake reviews is illegal/fraudulent. Do you have any evidence to back this up or around the 99% figure?

tomtomato1 h, 8 m ago

Simba is just based on online marketing. Most reviews posted on their …Simba is just based on online marketing. Most reviews posted on their website are fake.Even on John Lewis website, half of the reviews are fake...No mattress would satisfy all people, so 99% of reviews being 5 stars is not realistic at all.I tried myself the Simba mattress and it went back after a week: smell was horrible, and mattress was actually too hard, and way too hot (very common on memory foam mattresses, so don't believe for a second that Simba has solved that issue). At least, they took my old mattress back for free!We ended up buying an Ikea HÖVÅG pocket sprung mattress for £180, and it's much better.

The smell dissipates. But each to their own. I haven't had back pain since the week I got it over a year ago.

khirsah3 h, 8 m ago

Thats a fairly bold claim given that writing fake reviews is …Thats a fairly bold claim given that writing fake reviews is illegal/fraudulent. Do you have any evidence to back this up or around the 99% figure?


You are right, original poster. Fake reviews are indeed illegal and fraudulent. Maybe you could tell your boss?

Go to uk.trustpilot.com/rev…com

and check the very one-sided, 5 star reviews, coming in every few hours, from people who have posted a total of...1 review. The fact that most of them are "verified purchases" would indeed indicate that Simba is part of it. The volume of those is also highly suspicious. I have never seen such a high proportion of customers posting online reviews.

Someone should be a little more subtle...

Anyway, as I said, there is no such thing as a "universal mattress", pleasing everyone: some people like soft, some people like firm, some people like cosy, some people like well ventilated, some people like sinking in memory foam, some people hate it etc., so I would never expect a single type of mattress to realistically fully satisfy more than 50% of customers.

As you can imagine, if one type of mattress was good for all, companies like Ikea (and their massive R&D budgets) wouldn't sell 10 different models.

Therefore, the business proposition from Simba and its mattress-in-a-box, "start-up" counterparts (Eve, Emma, Casper etc.) is basically flawed (one model fits all), and all of them use the same online techniques to boost their ratings. It's basically business 2.0 online marketing spin. Maybe spend more on product development/range/R&D, and less on online marketing?

As for the trial periods, lots of mattress companies allows for change of minds, including Ikea.
Edited by: "tomtomato" 17th Nov

You get an email post purchase that those who review the mattress stand a chance of winning the mattress cost back. Guess thats what attracts the many reviews
tomtomato26 m ago

You are right, original poster. Fake reviews are indeed illegal and …You are right, original poster. Fake reviews are indeed illegal and fraudulent. Maybe you could tell your boss?Go to https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/simbasleep.comand check the very one-sided, 5 star reviews, coming in every few hours, from people who have posted a total of...1 review. The fact that most of them are "verified purchases" would indeed indicate that Simba is part of it. The volume of those is also highly suspicious. I have never seen such a high proportion of customers posting online reviews. Someone should be a little more subtle...Anyway, as I said, there is no such thing as a "universal mattress", pleasing everyone: some people like soft, some people like firm, some people like cosy, some people like well ventilated, some people like sinking in memory foam, some people hate it etc., so I would never expect a single type of mattress to realistically fully satisfy more than 50% of customers.Therefore, the business proposition from Simba and its mattress-in-a-box, "start-up" counterparts (Eve, Emma, Casper etc.) is basically flawed (one model fits all), and all of them use the same online techniques to boost their ratings. It's basically business 2.0 online marketing spin. Maybe spend more on product development/range/R&D, and less on online marketing?As for the trial periods, lots of mattress companies allows for change of minds, including Ikea.

stevie19uk8 m ago

You get an email post purchase that those who review the mattress stand a …You get an email post purchase that those who review the mattress stand a chance of winning the mattress cost back. Guess thats what attracts the many reviews


That must be new, I didn't get such email when I ordered mine (but there was already the same stream of positive reviews being posted)... Are only positive reviews part of the draw??
Edited by: "tomtomato" 17th Nov

tomtomato18 m ago

That must be new, I didn't get such email when I ordered mine (but there …That must be new, I didn't get such email when I ordered mine (but there was already the same stream of positive reviews being posted)... Are only positive reviews part of the draw??


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But that's not posting a review on the TrustPilot website, is it?

khirsah5 h, 34 m ago

I think you'll need to provide a citation for a comment like that


Citation? Am I writing an academic paper?

It's my own experience. I've used a similar mattress for 2 years, and was not happy with it.

tomtomato11 h, 19 m ago

Simba is just based on online marketing. Most reviews posted on their …Simba is just based on online marketing. Most reviews posted on their website are fake.Even on John Lewis website, half of the reviews are fake...No mattress would satisfy all people, so 99% of reviews being 5 stars is not realistic at all.I tried myself the Simba mattress and it went back after a week: smell was horrible, and mattress was actually too hard, and way too hot (very common on memory foam mattresses, so don't believe for a second that Simba has solved that issue). At least, they took my old mattress back for free!We ended up buying an Ikea HÖVÅG pocket sprung mattress for £180, and it's much better.


Not sure about that.

If you look at the professional reviews from bed testers they'll tell you the pros and cons of the mattresses and they rank these new wave of mattress in a box Eve, Caspar, Simba etc highly.

On the flip side too if you say mattress preferences are highly variable and ratings should reflect that, then no mattress should rank highly on any site, by any manufacturer.

a1231232 h, 31 m ago

Not sure about that.If you look at the professional reviews from bed …Not sure about that.If you look at the professional reviews from bed testers they'll tell you the pros and cons of the mattresses and they rank these new wave of mattress in a box Eve, Caspar, Simba etc highly.On the flip side too if you say mattress preferences are highly variable and ratings should reflect that, then no mattress should rank highly on any site, by any manufacturer.


All those companies admit to have 10/15% of returns (so actual numbers are probably higher).

On the basis that unhappy customers tend to give more reviews online than happy ones, they surely can't have 95% or higher positive ratings...

If a single foam mattress type could satisfy 95% of the customers, then companies like Ikea wouldn't bother to sell so many models, and would have standardized by now. Ikea could undercut any of those companies quite easily, given the volumes sold and R&D power.

I don't know any five stars hotels either that have used the "best mattresses in the world" for their own beds.
Edited by: "tomtomato" 18th Nov

adroit16 h, 46 m ago

Is your friend named Scar by any chance?


no, but I bet he wishes he was called that

khirsah14 h, 56 m ago

Can you provide evidence that this is normal price, as the RRP has been …Can you provide evidence that this is normal price, as the RRP has been the price every time I have looked at them? Simba themselves would not price match Argos, instead saying 'we've got a free £75 mattress protector!" lol. I think I'd rather have £175 off, thanks. The always active discount codes tend to be £50 referral codes or from Simba. We've not tried one of these so cant really say yet, but going to a John Lewis on Monday so will see them there I guess.If they did the 100 day guarantee on these I'd be tempted to try it out so its a shame that they dont. I'm not convinced they are all copies of a copy, as the reviews on forums where people have asked for opinions on them tend to say people tried a few and preferred one over another for XYZ, whether its firmness or sagging etc, so there does seem be be variations. My first memory foam mattress I think I paid £799 for and it was amazing, but my ex persuaded me to change to a sprung one and it was murder going back to it. This current one is an ikea but gives my current girlfriend back ache. Trying to find a compromise!



Hi,
When I was shopping for a memory foam I found numerous voucher codes for all three brands I mentions dotted at present and past. They all do ending up around the £500-600 mark. I even emailed them to price fight against each other with some success (true hukd'er right?? ).

I also looked into their reviews and marketing practices alot and as per above poster said, alot is paid reviews or similar with extra discount added to give a good name (heavily biased). Though I don't deem the practice bad and they just want the name heard.

The additional feature of 100 day refund thing for me is just not right as a business model. If they are truly that good you won't need that. If they are testing the market, fair, but the additional cost of returns etc will go to other customers so true cost of product is not there.

With all these none traditional/grey business logistics for self gain, I'm not personally happy on what I could potentially be getting.

If you wanted cheap, I believe Eva sells alot of their returns on eBay etc at like 40% cost with no warranty. That's probably for me a better way to go if I were to choose one of these new flat pack beds..
Otherwise I feel I'm paying for large chunk of insurance and marketing for the bed (ie not good value for money).

It's why I took a punt on the ikea as it was fraction of price, I even bought medium and medium firm then 2 toppers (still didn't cost as much as said companies above). I think I'll move to Tempur next when ikea ones get tired. They do black Friday deals.

Sorry! Long reply again...
Edited by: "Inquisitor" 18th Nov

Original Poster

Sorry but lost 100% respect for anything you had to say there. If you’re implying I work for them, feel free to check my account age, post history etc. I work for n energy company and haven’t even seen a Simba bed yet.Your comments on reviews don’t really hold true either as if they’re as bad as you are making out then people you would be making negative reviews as well - people are far more likely to report a negative experience - where are these reviews?

tomtomato12 h, 40 m ago

You are right, original poster. Fake reviews are indeed illegal and …You are right, original poster. Fake reviews are indeed illegal and fraudulent. Maybe you could tell your boss

Original Poster

i can’t find any codes to get 200 off a Simba bed in king size, or any history of there being any? I did try and get them to price match Argos but they weren’t having any of it unfortunately and just offered a lame mattress protector. Will see what we think of it in JL on Monday as might be awful lol.

Inquisitor36 m ago

Hi, When I was shopping for a memory foam I found numerous voucher codes …Hi, When I was shopping for a memory foam I found numerous voucher codes for all three brands I mentions dotted at present and past. They all do ending up around the £500-600 mark. I even emailed them to price fight against each other with some success (true hukd'er right?? ). I also looked into their reviews and marketing practices alot and as per above poster said, alot is paid reviews or similar with extra discount added to give a good name (heavily biased). Though I don't deem the practice bad and they just want the name heard. The additional feature of 100 day refund thing for me is just not right as a business model. If they are truly that good you won't need that. If they are testing the market, fair, but the additional cost of returns etc will go to other customers so true cost of product is not there.With all these none traditional/grey business logistics for self gain, I'm not personally happy on what I could potentially be getting. If you wanted cheap, I believe Eva sells alot of their returns on eBay etc at like 40% cost with no warranty. That's probably for me a better way to go if I were to choose one of these new flat pack beds.. Otherwise I feel I'm paying for large chunk of insurance and marketing for the bed (ie not good value for money).It's why I took a punt on the ikea as it was fraction of price, I even bought medium and medium firm then 2 toppers (still didn't cost as much as said companies above). I think I'll move to Tempur next when ikea ones get tired. They do black Friday deals. Sorry! Long reply again...

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thedopeyone10 h, 0 m ago

Citation? Am I writing an academic paper?It's my own experience. I've used …Citation? Am I writing an academic paper?It's my own experience. I've used a similar mattress for 2 years, and was not happy with it.




Np but you didn’t say it was bad for your back you said bad for everyone’s back. Many people will get back pain with a mattress they don’t get on with. You’ve also said a similar mattress so not even this one lol. Utterly irrelevant surely?

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flipper11817 h, 37 m ago

I've always thought that as i have nowhere to store my old mattress for …I've always thought that as i have nowhere to store my old mattress for 100 days, I would have to buy it even if I didn't like it



Yeah that has crossed our minds lol. Our ikea one came rolled up so could maybe roll it up again and store in the loft? Depends if it would damage it or not

khirsah22 m ago

Sorry but lost 100% respect for anything you had to say there. If you’re i …Sorry but lost 100% respect for anything you had to say there. If you’re implying I work for them, feel free to check my account age, post history etc. I work for n energy company and haven’t even seen a Simba bed yet.Your comments on reviews don’t really hold true either as if they’re as bad as you are making out then people you would be making negative reviews as well - people are far more likely to report a negative experience - where are these reviews?



Look, both him and myself are giving experiences and research effort results, so if you don't like it. Do it yourself and see.
I've given alternatives and search topics if you wanted to look into it deeper for yourself.

There are little/no negative reviews because people put 5 stars because they got a free return, regardless if the product was rubbish. Or simply they delete it (again it's online, look it up). Plus they have paid reviews etc.

Re 200 off, they provide different sell prices at different times, they actively change it in the week depending on cookie tracking. They bumped it up by £20-30 from when I started looking to when I finished looking (2 weeks later). This was specifically simba. Which is why it prompted me to email and get equal pricing for Eva and Casper, because their prices were so fluid.

Finally. To expect a forum member to help you and give citations and references is a bit much dont you think? Have you done the same for all opinions you have provided? If you haven't why aren't you helping the community?

tomtomato6 h, 14 m ago

All those companies admit to have 10/15% of returns (so actual numbers are …All those companies admit to have 10/15% of returns (so actual numbers are probably higher).On the basis that unhappy customers tend to give more reviews online than happy ones, they surely can't have 95% or higher positive ratings...If a single foam mattress type could satisfy 95% of the customers, then companies like Ikea wouldn't bother to sell so many models, and would have standardized by now. Ikea could undercut any of those companies quite easily, given the volumes sold and R&D power.I don't know any five stars hotels either that have used the "best mattresses in the world" for their own beds.


Companies like Ikea sell various model to cater for different price models. A cheap item can get great reviews too, 5 stars - does that mean its fake because no mattress can have be universal?

Look at some silent night or dreams mattresses for £200-£300, that have +9 ratings on Revoo.

Silentnight memory pocket 1000 - 8.9
Mothercare airflow - 9.6
Supreme outlast 2000 - 9.3

Theres 100's of mattresses that get +9 ratings.

Also in terms of Trustpilot this rates the business not just the item:

Mattressman 9.3 / 32,000 reviews
Mattressonline 9.4 / 21,000 reviews
Mattressnextday 9.3 /7800 reviews

What are the odds most people bought their perfect mattress online on the first attempt from all these mattress sites?
Edited by: "a123123" 18th Nov

Not sure what point you are making exactly.

Ikea sells different models not just because of prices: they sell pocket sprung mattress, foam mattress. Some models come in either firm or medium etc.

Assuming a single type of mattress would be a perfect fit for all people is the same as assuming a single car, in a single colour, could be fit for all drivers.

As for Trustpilot rating a business instead of product: when a business sells a single product...

Inquisitor17th Nov

I've done a fair amount of research on these flat packed mattresses, …I've done a fair amount of research on these flat packed mattresses, there's alot of sales and marketing spent on these than R&D that goes into it.. If your keen, look into brands like EVA And Casper also. From here, there's other branch off brands. "copy if a copy" Even the "original" Tempur memory foam mattress brand are not perfect for everyone so I'd suggest to go big or go home on this one. I've ended up spending on a couple of ikea memory foam with different density of toppers. It's "OK", but I'd imagine what the above would feel similar without the flexibility of changing.. I do have a Tempur pillow and that's amazing. I just don't have the heart to dump over £1k on the bed yet...Edit: this is normal price and not a deal btw. The price bracket for king is around £500-600 depending on discount codes which are active at the time (always on).


The research you have done is...

Reading fake blogs from manufacturer employees of traditional mattess companies like Tempur.

Your post reads like for like and should be disregarded.

I've had the king size of this for about a year.
It's worth the money.
It feels like a mattess that cost £600 should cost.
It doesn't feel like a £2000 mattess that should last 10 years.
It doesn't feel like a silent night RRP £1199 reduced to £500 type rubbish.
The Silentnight mattresses that cost over £800 or so actual cost to customer after any fake discounts are pretty good.


You get what you pay for.

Original Poster

Sorry but no. I’ve been looking at these off and on for over 12 months and the price has remained static. There have always been referral codes to get 50 off a Simba, but never, 150, 175 or even 200 off. No cookie based tracking has occurred to give me cheaper prices either, and I’ve confirmed by going on archive.org that the price has remained at this level each snapshot taken going back to 2016, so really gotta question your motives for outright making stuff up? Regardless of what prices you’ve dreamed up In the past however, it’s the cheapest you can get this item now, hence the deal.

As for citations, yes if I was making big claims about a product I would post a link? he stated something as fact, not as his opinion, yet he’s not even used the product, just one that is ‘similar’. How does information about another companies product help anyones,decision here? Implying it is bad for heat and causes pain should be backed up with some evidence, not based on anecdotal experience of a completely different companies product, it’s utterly ridiculous. Fair enough if you say ‘I had one of these, I was roasting and it hurt my back.’ But they didn’t, they said ‘these are bad for ventilation, and cause back pain, oh by the way, not even used one!’.


Inquisitor7 h, 24 m ago

Look, both him and myself are giving experiences and research effort …Look, both him and myself are giving experiences and research effort results, so if you don't like it. Do it yourself and see. I've given alternatives and search topics if you wanted to look into it deeper for yourself. There are little/no negative reviews because people put 5 stars because they got a free return, regardless if the product was rubbish. Or simply they delete it (again it's online, look it up). Plus they have paid reviews etc. Re 200 off, they provide different sell prices at different times, they actively change it in the week depending on cookie tracking. They bumped it up by £20-30 from when I started looking to when I finished looking (2 weeks later). This was specifically simba. Which is why it prompted me to email and get equal pricing for Eva and Casper, because their prices were so fluid.Finally. To expect a forum member to help you and give citations and references is a bit much dont you think? Have you done the same for all opinions you have provided? If you haven't why aren't you helping the community?

tomtomato2 h, 6 m ago

Not sure what point you are making exactly.Ikea sells different models not …Not sure what point you are making exactly.Ikea sells different models not just because of prices: they sell pocket sprung mattress, foam mattress. Some models come in either firm or medium etc.Assuming a single type of mattress would be a perfect fit for all people is the same as assuming a single car, in a single colour, could be fit for all drivers.As for Trustpilot rating a business instead of product: when a business sells a single product...


Then how can both a small car get good reviews and a large car get good reviews if theyre not suitable for everyone?

A Ford Fiesta scores 9/10, but if I need a big car then giving it 9/10 must be fake becasue its not suitable for the millions of people that need a bigger car?

I don't think you get the point: Ford does not claim they have a single car, in a single colour, that is a perfect fit to ALL its customers. If they did and such car was getting a 95% rating online, I would be suspicious, as I know people have different needs.

Simba, Eve, Casper and other claim that their single model of mattress is a perfect fit for all customers. "Tailored to fit all". And such mattress is getting a 95% or higher rating online?

Hmm...

khirsah13 h, 31 m ago

Fair enough if you say ‘I had one of these, I was roasting and it hurt my b …Fair enough if you say ‘I had one of these, I was roasting and it hurt my back.’ But they didn’t, they said ‘these are bad for ventilation, and cause back pain, oh by the way, not even used one!’.


I have used one, and it was indeed very hot. It's hardly surprising, as many foam/memory mattresses are also very hot, due to the material and also sinking in. Any reviews saying it's not hot is basically inaccurate.

None of those so-called new tech mattress companies will resolve such issue.

The only breathable material that can reduce heat a bit is natural latex, which is expensive.

Simba is using "Simbatex", which is of course not natural latex, and a thin layer anyway.

For people who don't like hot mattresses and want something breathable, they are better off with pocket sprung mattresses, with possibly a latex topper.

I would suggest an Ikea Hovag pocket sprung mattress (£180, double) and a Tromsdalen latex mattress topper (£240): total price, £420, so still much cheaper than Simba (less marketing, more product).

khirsah16 h, 16 m ago

Sorry but no. I’ve been looking at these off and on for over 12 months and …Sorry but no. I’ve been looking at these off and on for over 12 months and the price has remained static. There have always been referral codes to get 50 off a Simba, but never, 150, 175 or even 200 off. No cookie based tracking has occurred to give me cheaper prices either, and I’ve confirmed by going on archive.org that the price has remained at this level each snapshot taken going back to 2016, so really gotta question your motives for outright making stuff up? Regardless of what prices you’ve dreamed up In the past however, it’s the cheapest you can get this item now, hence the deal. As for citations, yes if I was making big claims about a product I would post a link? he stated something as fact, not as his opinion, yet he’s not even used the product, just one that is ‘similar’. How does information about another companies product help anyones,decision here? Implying it is bad for heat and causes pain should be backed up with some evidence, not based on anecdotal experience of a completely different companies product, it’s utterly ridiculous. Fair enough if you say ‘I had one of these, I was roasting and it hurt my back.’ But they didn’t, they said ‘these are bad for ventilation, and cause back pain, oh by the way, not even used one!’.


archive.org shows some porn sites and car gallery when I search for simba. If you like to use any citation I would recommend actually checking it first.

But seriously, if you feel a 4.8/5 review over 20k people is realistic then go for it. Must be buy of the century. I'm out.
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