Single CE4 eGo e-cig Kit Reduced to £17.99 October Only - Liberty Flights
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Single CE4 eGo e-cig Kit Reduced to £17.99 October Only - Liberty Flights

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Found 20th Oct 2013
Single CE4 eGo e-cig Kit Reduced to £17.99 October Only - Liberty Flights.

Very Good Quality Brand E-Cig Kit- Reduced from £24.99 to £17.99 for October (Stopober)

Comes with usb charger, battery,10ml of "tobacco" or "menthol" flavour 1.8mg nictoteen.

These retail in highstreet shops for up to £30.00 so a good deal.



Liberty Flights actively encourages people not to take up a nicotine habit. If you are not already a smoker then please do not buy our products.

WARNING: NICOTINE IS A POISON. NICOTINE IS HARMFUL. KEEP OUT OF REACH FROM CHILDREN AND LOCKED AWAY IN A SAFE PLACE. IF ANY NICOTINE PRODUCT IS CONSUMED, SEEK MEDICAL ASSISTANCE IMMEDIATELY.

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Not a bad deal but you really need another battery so you can switch but their dual kit is over priced by some distance.

Original Poster Banned

Any idea how long the the lifespan of the battery is? Not the Charge time (which is 2hrs) how long until the battery actually has to be replaced??

What's the point? It's not really stopping is it?

I don't know the lifespan of the battery I guess it will vary but you will get your moneys worth.
I have two batteries and have had them since Feb this year and still going strong, although I did not get them from this retailer they will be the same just not stamped with their brand.

moneysavingkitten

What's the point? It's not really stopping is it?



Depends what you class as stopping, maybe you need to do some research on what these are and what they do compared to cigarettes then see if you class it as stopping.

capelli

Depends what you class as stopping, maybe you need to do some research on … Depends what you class as stopping, maybe you need to do some research on what these are and what they do compared to cigarettes then see if you class it as stopping.



I know exactly what they are, I just think they are pointless. Everyone I know that has one, uses it and still smokes. Plus the carrier fluid for the nicotine is carcinogenic, so they aren't even any better for you in my opinion. I class stopping as actually stopping.
Edited by: "MSK." 20th Oct 2013

I've been using this particular brand since last November & haven't touched a real cig since. While I don't get most batteries & hardware from them, their fluid is very good.

moneysavingkitten

I know exactly what they are, I just think they are pointless. Everyone … I know exactly what they are, I just think they are pointless. Everyone I know that has one, uses it and still smokes. Plus the carrier fluid for the nicotine is carcinogenic, so they aren't even any better for you in my opinion. I class stopping as actually stopping.



you clearly DONT know what they are
carrier fluid for the nicotine is NOT carcinogenic... its propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin, do some reading up before making ignorant statements

there is no claims that they are stop smoking aids
however the market is growing at an astounding rate so they must be better than pointless

I for one loved smoking...i loved the action and the feel of inhaling smoke ...i knew i should stop but i didnt think i could
i bought a device similar to this 2 and a half years ago and havent touched a cigarette since !!!
they have changed my life ...i enjoy all the things i loved from smoking but can now do it a hell of a lot safer ....PLUS i know i will never go back to smoking traditional cigarettes as electronic ones fill my cravings and urges

karmaki11er

you clearly DONT know what they are carrier fluid for the nicotine is NOT … you clearly DONT know what they are carrier fluid for the nicotine is NOT carcinogenic... its propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin, do some reading up before making ignorant statements there is no claims that they are stop smoking aids however the market is growing at an astounding rate so they must be better than pointless :)I for one loved smoking...i loved the action and the feel of inhaling smoke ...i knew i should stop but i didnt think i could i bought a device similar to this 2 and a half years ago and havent touched a cigarette since !!!they have changed my life ...i enjoy all the things i loved from smoking but can now do it a hell of a lot safer ....PLUS i know i will never go back to smoking traditional cigarettes as electronic ones fill my cravings and urges



No really I do. I loved smoking too, but I found that actually quitting was better :P All you have done is substitute.

Yes i class myself as substituting to a safer alternative but it still is not smoking which is where the harm comes from.

moneysavingkitten

No really I do. I loved smoking too, but I found that actually quitting … No really I do. I loved smoking too, but I found that actually quitting was better :P All you have done is substitute.




Yes exactly, and what is wrong with that?

its like swapping diet coke for regular coke... i get all the enjoyment but none of the bad stuff

horses for courses ...people should be give the choice and not scared off with false scaremongering


karmaki11er

i knew i should stop



What is wrong with it is exactly what you said above. You knew you should stop, but you didn't. That wouldn't have been possible without this pointless product. It's a cop out so you can kid yourself and tell yourself you did something good, when you haven't. Well done there, give yourself a big pat on the back.

I really don't believe it is any better for you, it's just a matter of time before that is proven. If you really gave a ****, you'd book and week off work and sweat it out. Seriously a week and it's done with. All this does is make people feel weaker, when they are not, they are perfectly capable of not smoking all on their own.

Brilliant analogy since diet coke is much worse for you than full sugar coke.

karmaki11er

i get all the enjoyment but none of the bad stuff



So you're saying being addicted to nicotine is perfectly fine? You are seriously deluded...
Edited by: "MSK." 20th Oct 2013

The fact is these things work and they work well, and I highly recommend anyone that wants to quit to try these above any other method, once you are off the real cigs which these can do for you overnight then you can decide what you want to do.

Moneysavingkitten - If you had done any research at all, you would know that nicotine is no worse for the average adult that caffeine is. The problem with tobacco cigarettes is definitively NOT the nicotine, but the smoke. This is neither conjecture nor wishful thinking - it is fact, and a fact you appear to be unaware of. Here's another fact for you - currently, there are north of 1.4million folks in the UK alone using e-cigs to avoid the dangers of inhaling smoked tobacco - whatever they may be. They are practising "harm reduction" or "risk reduction" - much like using low fat spreads, or calorie reduced dressings for salads. Your ignorance, unfortunately, could cost someone the chance to switch to using an e-cig, and thereby regaining years which may have been lost to cigarette smoking.

I'd suggest you spend some time reading up on harm reduction, and understand why e-cigs are both here to sstay, and a very good thing for public health. Until you do, you ought to learn to keep your fingers away from the keyboard until you know what you're talking about.

karmaki11er

i knew i should stop

karmaki11er

i get all the enjoyment but none of the bad stuff




you really dont have a clue do you?
i knew i should stop smoking and i did stop smoking fact
without electronic cigarettes i would still be smoking fact
your opinion on what is safer and what is not isnt fact ...its no more than opinions that you have picked up from the media no doubt
i read up and follow the evidence from the professionals so i can make informed decisions for myself

we are all addicted something ...life would be dull if we weren't
do you live life with abstinence from caffeine and alcohol?
I dont ...i enjoy them as i do nicotine but i use them responsibly and in moderation

as i said fare play to you for giving up smoking cold turkey ...but dont go around calling people weak for going a different method ...give people a choice of how they ditch smoking ...saving lives is the important issue here not which method is better than the other

one advantage to swapping to ecigs over going cold turkey is you dont get the sad superiority complex over smokers !!


As I said. Deluded. I understand the topic just fine, I just don't agree with your opinion.
Edited by: "MSK." 20th Oct 2013

karmaki11er

I cannot agree with that last statemant enough. :-)

hifistud

you would know that nicotine is no worse for the average adult that … you would know that nicotine is no worse for the average adult that caffeine is.



That's why OP had to put

WARNING: NICOTINE IS A POISON. NICOTINE IS HARMFUL. KEEP OUT OF REACH … WARNING: NICOTINE IS A POISON. NICOTINE IS HARMFUL. KEEP OUT OF REACH FROM CHILDREN AND LOCKED AWAY IN A SAFE PLACE. IF ANY NICOTINE PRODUCT IS CONSUMED, SEEK MEDICAL ASSISTANCE IMMEDIATELY.



in his original post. Any idea why they don't have to put that warning on your average cup of tea?

I don't expect to win this argument. You are addicted. But one day, when you have given up properly, you will probably realise that all this stressing and substituting was actually worse than just quitting.

Harm minimization might have a point, if you are treating something like heroin addiction, where you are at risk of infection, physical damage and withdrawal symptoms that are actually dangerous, not just uncomfortable. But you're taking about cigarettes, which makes it just plain funny.

You can think I have a superiority complex all you like. I don't really feel like that. I just honestly feel like since giving up, all the stressing about giving up was so much worse than the actual giving up itself. Just trying to point out you are actually making it harder for yourselves, if you do indeed care about you health. I wish someone had pointed that out to me earlier.

Edited by: "MSK." 20th Oct 2013

I guess some people chose this as a cheaper option to cigarettes?

Original Poster Banned

I got 2 clearomizers with mine, I am using a 1.2% cherry on the second one and a 1.8% tobacco on the original one. The cherry one doesn't seem to produce as much vapour , I don't know if I've filled it correctly. Does anyone have tips for getting a nice amount of vape from them? I tried cleaning the top part and blowing through it as shown on you tube, seemed to improve things a bit, I don't know if I got a duff 2nd clearomizer or its just the cherry is weaker.

hifistud

you would know that nicotine is no worse for the average adult that … you would know that nicotine is no worse for the average adult that caffeine is.

WARNING: NICOTINE IS A POISON. NICOTINE IS HARMFUL. KEEP OUT OF REACH … WARNING: NICOTINE IS A POISON. NICOTINE IS HARMFUL. KEEP OUT OF REACH FROM CHILDREN AND LOCKED AWAY IN A SAFE PLACE. IF ANY NICOTINE PRODUCT IS CONSUMED, SEEK MEDICAL ASSISTANCE IMMEDIATELY.




its quite sad that you find it funny to trivialise nicotine addiction
maybe you were one of the lucky ones that found quitting easy... this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have undergone the ill effects of champix in an attempt to quit

its your quit or die attitude that quite frankly you need to address
electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean yourself off cigarettes as millions of people will testify to. should this not be embraced as a break through? i for one am VERY happy i now use a safer alternative and dont have a huge stick up my **** prancing about preaching to others the errors of their ways

furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and not giving ill informed opinions. im sorry i was dragged into your trolling but i couldn't sit back and see people put off or a real chance to change their lives for the better

apologise to the OP
and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM me if i can help at all





hifistud

you would know that nicotine is no worse for the average adult that … you would know that nicotine is no worse for the average adult that caffeine is.

WARNING: NICOTINE IS A POISON. NICOTINE IS HARMFUL. KEEP OUT OF REACH … WARNING: NICOTINE IS A POISON. NICOTINE IS HARMFUL. KEEP OUT OF REACH FROM CHILDREN AND LOCKED AWAY IN A SAFE PLACE. IF ANY NICOTINE PRODUCT IS CONSUMED, SEEK MEDICAL ASSISTANCE IMMEDIATELY.



You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you quit the (so called) hard way and now your moaning as you've seen a way we can carry on with a almost harmless habit safer.

As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same way as caffiene, a 10ml bottle contains enough eliquid for 3 days of vaping ie 60 cigs. So as it is highly concentrated it is dangerous, whereas if you ingest too much caffiene it can have the same effect.

You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as smoking would involve burning tobacco leaves and producing CO, tar and the hundreds of other cancerous crap in cigs, YES we do still have a nicotine habit, which has been medically proven to not be cancerous and there is no issue with 2nd hand smoke (as there is no smoke) and there is no burning smell.

BTW I and many others started vaping with no intention of giving up cigs, the change happened as I can carry on with the things I enjoy about smoking without damaging my health or those around me. So get off your high horse, do some research before you critcise others choices

Edited by: "taffyjock1" 20th Oct 2013

karmaki11er

its quite sad that you find it funny to trivialise nicotine addiction


I'm not the one comparing it to diet coke.

karmaki11er

maybe you were one of the lucky ones that found quitting easy...


I didn't find it easy, that's you assumption. I just found that doing it halfheartedly gets you nowhere.

karmaki11er

this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have undergone … this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have undergone the ill effects of champix in an attempt to quit


I don't get why they can even prescribe champix, it's ridiculous. It carries a massive increased risk of suicide. I don't know why anyone that has read anything about it would willing try it.

All these things are just ways to try and lessen the annoyance giving up will give you. Most of them are expensive and or dangerous. Giving up is annoying, however you do it. I just think it's better to suck it up. The worst bit is done with in about a week. This prolongs the annoyance indefinitely, for no real benefit.

karmaki11er

its your quit or die attitude that quite frankly you need to address


I'm not telling any one to die, you are projection your own self loathing on to my comments.

karmaki11er

electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean yourself … electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean yourself off cigarettes as millions of people will testify to. should this not be embraced as a break through? i for one am VERY happy i now use a safer alternative and dont have a huge stick up my **** prancing about preaching to others the errors of their ways


There's so such think as stress-less giving up. I think it is you that are trying to give false ideas. But you're quite happy to preach to me about your miracle product.

karmaki11er

furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and … furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and not giving ill informed opinions. im sorry i was dragged into your trolling but i couldn't sit back and see people put off or a real chance to change their lives for the better


If it's pointless, it's not a deal.

karmaki11er

and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM me … and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM me if i can help at all


So you can teach them how not to quit?

taffyjock1

You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you … You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you quit the (so called) hard way and now your moaning as you've seen a way we can carry on with a almost harmless habit safer.


E-cigs were around when I quit. I just didn't find them at all satisfying so I couldn't see the point. I would rather enjoy myself and smoke a proper cigarette or not bother. Has nothing to do with jealously.

taffyjock1

As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same way … As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same way as caffiene, a 10ml bottle contains enough eliquid for 3 days of vaping ie 60 cigs. So as it is highly concentrated it is dangerous, whereas if you ingest too much caffiene it can have the same effect.


What you're point? I am not carrying highly concentrated vials of caffeine.

taffyjock1

You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as smoking … You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as smoking would involve burning tobacco leaves and producing CO, tar and the hundreds of other cancerous crap in cigs, YES we do still have a nicotine habit, which has been medically proven to not be cancerous and there is no issue with 2nd hand smoke (as there is no smoke) and there is no burning smell.



You haven't dealt with your addiction at all, I'm not really bothered whether you consider yourself a smoker or not, it's really quite irrelevant, apart from the sense of smugness it provides you with.

There is no medical evidence to say these are safe. They haven't existed long enough for the long term effects to even be known. I'm not even convinced you are right about the second hand smoke, but I am not going to give you yet another thing to cry about.



Edited by: "MSK." 20th Oct 2013

karmaki11er

its quite sad that you find it funny to trivialise nicotine addiction

karmaki11er

maybe you were one of the lucky ones that found quitting easy...

karmaki11er

this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have undergone … this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have undergone the ill effects of champix in an attempt to quit

karmaki11er

its your quit or die attitude that quite frankly you need to address

karmaki11er

electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean … electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean yourself off cigarettes as millions of people will testify to. should this not be embraced as a break through? i for one am VERY happy i now use a safer alternative and dont have a huge stick up my **** prancing about preaching to others the errors of their ways

karmaki11er

furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and … furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and not giving ill informed opinions. im sorry i was dragged into your trolling but i couldn't sit back and see people put off or a real chance to change their lives for the better

karmaki11er

and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM me … and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM me if i can help at all

taffyjock1

You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you … You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you quit the (so called) hard way and now your moaning as you've seen a way we can carry on with a almost harmless habit safer.

taffyjock1

As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same … As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same way as caffiene, a 10ml bottle contains enough eliquid for 3 days of vaping ie 60 cigs. So as it is highly concentrated it is dangerous, whereas if you ingest too much caffiene it can have the same effect.

taffyjock1

You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as … You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as smoking would involve burning tobacco leaves and producing CO, tar and the hundreds of other cancerous crap in cigs, YES we do still have a nicotine habit, which has been medically proven to not be cancerous and there is no issue with 2nd hand smoke (as there is no smoke) and there is no burning smell.



Pointless arguing with simpletons like you, get back under your bridge troll. Maybe smoke a tag and chill the #### out

As I already said I like my addiction, why would I want to stop if its not doinge any harm, as your your opinion on if it is safer or not thatiis your deluded opinion, there is plenty of medical fact out there to prove you wrong.
Edited by: "taffyjock1" 21st Oct 2013

Moneysavingkitten is ob. a troll, don't feed trolls people, we all know that e.cigs save lives.

karmaki11er

its quite sad that you find it funny to trivialise nicotine addiction

karmaki11er

maybe you were one of the lucky ones that found quitting easy...

karmaki11er

this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have undergone … this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have undergone the ill effects of champix in an attempt to quit

karmaki11er

its your quit or die attitude that quite frankly you need to address

karmaki11er

electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean … electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean yourself off cigarettes as millions of people will testify to. should this not be embraced as a break through? i for one am VERY happy i now use a safer alternative and dont have a huge stick up my **** prancing about preaching to others the errors of their ways

karmaki11er

furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and … furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and not giving ill informed opinions. im sorry i was dragged into your trolling but i couldn't sit back and see people put off or a real chance to change their lives for the better

karmaki11er

and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM me … and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM me if i can help at all

taffyjock1

You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you … You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you quit the (so called) hard way and now your moaning as you've seen a way we can carry on with a almost harmless habit safer.

taffyjock1

As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same … As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same way as caffiene, a 10ml bottle contains enough eliquid for 3 days of vaping ie 60 cigs. So as it is highly concentrated it is dangerous, whereas if you ingest too much caffiene it can have the same effect.

taffyjock1

You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as … You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as smoking would involve burning tobacco leaves and producing CO, tar and the hundreds of other cancerous crap in cigs, YES we do still have a nicotine habit, which has been medically proven to not be cancerous and there is no issue with 2nd hand smoke (as there is no smoke) and there is no burning smell.



I can assure you are am not in the least stressed out However I do hope you are enjoying your e-cig

Show me some. They have not be commonly used long enough to know what the long term effects are. All they can tell you is that there are less chemicals in them.

troll_buster

Moneysavingkitten is ob. a troll, don't feed trolls people, we all know … Moneysavingkitten is ob. a troll, don't feed trolls people, we all know that e.cigs save lives.



Kudos, you went to all the effort of registering right this minute, just to tell me that? I am honored.. Do I smell a multi-accounter?
Edited by: "MSK." 21st Oct 2013

karmaki11er

its quite sad that you find it funny to trivialise nicotine addiction

karmaki11er

maybe you were one of the lucky ones that found quitting easy...

karmaki11er

this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have … this however isnt the case for many, specially those who have undergone the ill effects of champix in an attempt to quit

karmaki11er

its your quit or die attitude that quite frankly you need to address

karmaki11er

electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean … electronic cigarettes are a very easy and stressless way to wean yourself off cigarettes as millions of people will testify to. should this not be embraced as a break through? i for one am VERY happy i now use a safer alternative and dont have a huge stick up my **** prancing about preaching to others the errors of their ways

karmaki11er

furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and … furthermore this is a hotUKdeals site to share prices for products and not giving ill informed opinions. im sorry i was dragged into your trolling but i couldn't sit back and see people put off or a real chance to change their lives for the better

karmaki11er

and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM … and best of luck to anyone who tries these products, feel free to PM me if i can help at all

taffyjock1

You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you … You sound very much like a millitant ex smoker, jelous of the fact you quit the (so called) hard way and now your moaning as you've seen a way we can carry on with a almost harmless habit safer.

taffyjock1

As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same … As per your nicotine quote, nicotine is a poison and acts in the same way as caffiene, a 10ml bottle contains enough eliquid for 3 days of vaping ie 60 cigs. So as it is highly concentrated it is dangerous, whereas if you ingest too much caffiene it can have the same effect.

taffyjock1

You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as … You have to get it into your head that vapers ARE non smokers, as smoking would involve burning tobacco leaves and producing CO, tar and the hundreds of other cancerous crap in cigs, YES we do still have a nicotine habit, which has been medically proven to not be cancerous and there is no issue with 2nd hand smoke (as there is no smoke) and there is no burning smell.



I am very much enjoying mine and have been for the last 9 months, I am currently enjoying snakeoil and scorpion blood yum. I feel in better health than I have in years, I no longer need an asthma pump and I am a lot fitter and better off.

Ecigs have been around for around 7 years and the individual ingredients have been deemed safe in tests going back to the 50s. With the exception of nicotine all the other ingredients are in lots of everyday edible products like toothpaste, cough medicine, asthma inhalers, sweets, cakes etc etc.

Plenty of tests have been done. Unless you can prove otherwise?

Big Tobacco and Big Pharma would have proven otherwise by now as they stand to lose big time... so our little Troll wont find anything

e.cigs save lives

taffyjock1

I am very much enjoying mine and have been for the last 9 months, I am … I am very much enjoying mine and have been for the last 9 months, I am currently enjoying snakeoil and scorpion blood yum. I feel in better health than I have in years, I no longer need an asthma pump and I am a lot fitter and better off.



I'm pleased for you, really I am.

taffyjock1

Ecigs have been around for around 7 years and the individual ingredients … Ecigs have been around for around 7 years and the individual ingredients have been deemed safe in tests going back to the 50s. With the exception of nicotine all the other ingredients are in lots of everyday edible products like toothpaste, cough medicine, asthma inhalers, sweets, cakes etc etc.Plenty of tests have been done. Unless you can prove otherwise?



Sure, from:
who.int/tob…tml

Are electronic cigarettes (ENDS) safe?The safety of ENDS has not been … Are electronic cigarettes (ENDS) safe?The safety of ENDS has not been scientifically demonstrated.The potential risks they pose for the health of users remain undetermined. Furthermore, scientific testing indicates that the products vary widely in the amount of nicotine and other chemicals they deliver and there is no way for consumers to find out what is actually delivered by the product they have purchased.Most ENDS contain large concentrations of propylene glycol, which is a known irritant when inhaled. The testing of some of these products also suggests the presence of other toxic chemicals, aside from nicotine. In addition, use of these products -when they contain nicotine- can pose a risk for nicotine poisoning (i.e. if a child of 30 Kilos of weight swallows the contents of a nicotine cartridge of 24 mg this could cause acute nicotine poisoning that most likely would cause its death) and a risk for addiction to nonsmokers of tobacco products. Nicotine, either inhaled, ingested or in direct contact with the skin, can be particularly hazardous to the health and safety of certain segments of the population, such as children, young people, pregnant women, nursing mothers, people with heart conditions and the elderly. ENDS and their nicotine cartridges and refill accessories must be kept out of the reach of young children at all times in view of the risk of choking or nicotine poisoning.



There's a lot more info in there, but I will spare you the quote of the whole page.

And another one here, should you care to read:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pub…832

I can probably dredge up some more if you like.

Now, can you show that evidence that you spoke of, that I asked you for first?

Edited by: "MSK." 21st Oct 2013

taffyjock1

I am very much enjoying mine and have been for the last 9 months, I am … I am very much enjoying mine and have been for the last 9 months, I am currently enjoying snakeoil and scorpion blood yum. I feel in better health than I have in years, I no longer need an asthma pump and I am a lot fitter and better off.

taffyjock1

Ecigs have been around for around 7 years and the individual … Ecigs have been around for around 7 years and the individual ingredients have been deemed safe in tests going back to the 50s. With the exception of nicotine all the other ingredients are in lots of everyday edible products like toothpaste, cough medicine, asthma inhalers, sweets, cakes etc etc.Plenty of tests have been done. Unless you can prove otherwise?

Are electronic cigarettes (ENDS) safe?The safety of ENDS has not been … Are electronic cigarettes (ENDS) safe?The safety of ENDS has not been scientifically demonstrated.The potential risks they pose for the health of users remain undetermined. Furthermore, scientific testing indicates that the products vary widely in the amount of nicotine and other chemicals they deliver and there is no way for consumers to find out what is actually delivered by the product they have purchased.Most ENDS contain large concentrations of propylene glycol, which is a known irritant when inhaled. The testing of some of these products also suggests the presence of other toxic chemicals, aside from nicotine. In addition, use of these products -when they contain nicotine- can pose a risk for nicotine poisoning (i.e. if a child of 30 Kilos of weight swallows the contents of a nicotine cartridge of 24 mg this could cause acute nicotine poisoning that most likely would cause its death) and a risk for addiction to nonsmokers of tobacco products. Nicotine, either inhaled, ingested or in direct contact with the skin, can be particularly hazardous to the health and safety of certain segments of the population, such as children, young people, pregnant women, nursing mothers, people with heart conditions and the elderly. ENDS and their nicotine cartridges and refill accessories must be kept out of the reach of young children at all times in view of the risk of choking or nicotine poisoning.



There's more than you have provided. The long term effects are not known.

forbes.com/sit…rs/

Lol @ WHO they're the same people who said putting a filter on a fag makes them mobile.usnews.com/new…ion


youtu.be/jeS…XhI


Really scraping the barrel with your proof there.

Governments won't pay for real tests to be done as they know the outcome will prove that ecigs are by far a safer alternative and they will loose tobacco tax, also big P is crying as NRT has been proven to be a waste of tax payers money.

If they were so dangerous why was there a vote recently to try and make ecigs a medicine?

If you are saying ecigs are not safer your saying NRT patches are unsafe too by association, as they contain the same ingredients.

Edited by: "taffyjock1" 21st Oct 2013

taffyjock1

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/01/10/the-eus-new-tobacco-directive-protecting-cigarette-markets-killing-smokers/Lol @ WHO they're the same people who said putting a filter on a fag makes them http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/09/27/american-lung-association-electronic-cigarettes-regulation



Sorry perhaps I should have been clearer. I was asking for scientific studies, not waffly news articles throwing blame about.

moneysavingkitten

Sorry perhaps I should have been clearer. I was asking for scientific … Sorry perhaps I should have been clearer. I was asking for scientific studies, not waffly news articles throwing blame about.



I could ask you the same thing, don't like being proved wrong do you

Why are you still stating the smoking ceaseation rubbish, how hard is it to understand ecigs are HARM REDUCTION. So all of your links are irrelevent.
Edited by: "taffyjock1" 21st Oct 2013

taffyjock1

I could ask you the same thing, don't like being proved wrong do you



On what planet is a study from the University of Missouri, from US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health a news article? I suppose you didn't even look. Your posts are from Forbes and US News today. See the difference?

I'm sure you will take this as a false victory, but I have things to do tomorrow, so I am off to sleep.

moneysavingkitten

On what planet is a study from the University of Missouri, from US … On what planet is a study from the University of Missouri, from US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health a news article? I suppose you didn't even look. Your posts are from Forbes and US News today. See the difference? I'm sure you will take this as a false victory, but I have things to do tomorrow, so I am off to sleep.



Run away little troll

taffyjock1

Run away little troll



No answer for that eh? I suppose the study was too difficult for you to read. Night night.
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