Skoda Octavia vRS (2017) Diesel Hatchback 2.0 TDI CR 5dr £6331.20 at Fleetprices.co.uk, 10kmpa, 2 year lease
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Skoda Octavia vRS (2017) Diesel Hatchback 2.0 TDI CR 5dr £6331.20 at Fleetprices.co.uk, 10kmpa, 2 year lease

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Found 23rd Mar 2017
The new Octavia is available and this is a cracking deal for the vRS.
On the 9+23 (10k mpa, 2 years) it's £190.35 per month + £240 processing fee. You can go down to the 3+23 for £234.28pm (an extra 8p over the two years.)

I had my last car from these guys and they were no trouble at all to deal with.
You can also get the auto with the fantastic DSG gearbox for an extra £11 per month (£6683.20). Or add the 4x4 for another £23pm (£7429.12)
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I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the end of it? Where is the benefit of having one
frozencake

I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the … I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the end of it? Where is the benefit of having one



I don't get buying a car outright, spending £xk+ outright and watching it depreciate on my drive. Where is the benefit of having one
Hot price. I was looking at something similar to this last night on another site, can't remember where now as it was on another computer - I'll dig it out later and compare, but this looks better.
Any idea what these charge for excess mileage? I know it's normally anywhere between 6 and 10 pence a mile. Cheers
Frozencake - the benefit of having a car on lease is simple... if the deal is right for you.
Example - the car I have now is a Merc GLA, 30k list price. Over 2 years on lease I would have paid ~£6,500.
After 2 years this car is now worth less than £23,500. So if you were to sell it you would have spent more on the car over 2 years owning it, than I would have for borrowing it
frozencake

I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the … I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the end of it? Where is the benefit of having one



I will teach you as nobody ever seems to get lease/PCP deals, and you won't be the first to comment.

Lets say you go and buy your own brand new car, and it costs you £30,000 all in with interest, loans etc etc. Remember we are talking brand new cars, not 3 year old used cars.

You own it for 4 years and it's now worth £10,000. So that car has cost you £20,000 over 4 years, which equates to £416 per month.

Now imagine you go back 4 years and lease the identical car at a monthly rate of £350. You pay £350 each month for 4 years and then give the car back. You have spent less each month on owning the same car so it has been cheaper to lease rather than buy.

It doesn't always work out cheaper, depends on the car in question and the GFV etc

So when looking at a lease you have to roughly work out what buying a car would cost in real terms per month (including tyres, servicing, mot etc) and then compare that to leasing.

PCP is different again in that you can own the car after the initial term. I PCP my new car and fully intend to buy it after 4 years, effectively meaning I can purchase a more expensive car over a 6 year period with the same monthly payments as a cheaper car over 4 years - again only beneficial if you plan on keeping it, or want to swap to a new car every 3-4 years.

If you're not bothered about new cars then yes there are cheaper ways to do it, e.g. buying an older used car, but some don't want to do that.
Edited by: "HaroFreestyler" 23rd Mar 2017
frozencake

I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the … I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the end of it? Where is the benefit of having one



​a lot of people get company cars or a car allowance, etc. driving being a part of their job or a company car as a perk. therefore it costs them nothing to lease a brand new car every 2 years.

you don't get them because you dont buy or rent brand new cars. the people that do get them
Mada06

I don't get buying a car outright, spending £xk+ outright and watching it … I don't get buying a car outright, spending £xk+ outright and watching it depreciate on my drive. Where is the benefit of having one



Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car for 6k and sell it later losing some money but still get MAJORITY of it back
FocusST

I will teach you as nobody ever seems to get lease/PCP deals, and you … I will teach you as nobody ever seems to get lease/PCP deals, and you won't be the first to comment.Lets say you go and buy your own brand new car, and it costs you £30,000 all in with interest, loans etc etc. Remember we are talking brand new cars, not 3 year old used cars.You own it for 4 years and it's now worth £10,000. So that car has cost you £20,000 over 4 years, which equates to £416 per month. Now imagine you go back 4 years and lease the identical car at a monthly rate of £350. You pay £350 each month for 4 years and then give the car back. You have spent less each month on owning the same car so it has been cheaper to lease rather than buy.It doesn't always work out cheaper, depends on the car in question and the GFV etcSo when looking at a lease you have to roughly work out what buying a car would cost in real terms per month (including tyres, servicing, mot etc) and then compare that to leasing.PCP is different again in that you can own the car after the initial term. I PCP my new car and fully intend to buy it after 4 years, effectively meaning I can purchase a more expensive car over a 6 year period with the same monthly payments as a cheaper car over 4 years - again only beneficial if you plan on keeping it, or want to swap to a new car every 3-4 years.If you're not bothered about new cars then yes there are cheaper ways to do it, e.g. buying an older used car, but some don't want to do that.



There are some sports cars that go up in value,even from brand new.
I would have thought that someone with your user name would know that.look at the new focus RS,they were selling for thousands more than they cost to buy new from a dealer.

I've not lost a single penny in owning my Evo,in fact it's gone up in price.

I'm not saying leasing isn't any good,just pointing out that not all cars depreciate.
PointDex

Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car … Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car for 6k and sell it later losing some money but still get MAJORITY of it back



​for me thats half the argument, the other half is that , even if that £20k car is only going to cost you £6k you still have a potential £20k liability.

A family friend had her son write-off her leased audi (26k car) - as a member of the family drove it without pemission she wasnt covered by her insurance. (a common policy term).

i've had people damage my car in car parks (buckled rear quarter panel), wife reversed our car into a wall trying to avoid a delivery lorry blocking our road - both claims without a 3rd party that i dont want to be making. i can live with the damage its only cosmetic...but a lease company would't have any of it. cats sit on my car and scratch the paintwork. My kids got waterproof suntan lotion on which has wrecked the paintwork where its clouded the lacquer. even a 200 quid steam valet isnt going to clean the seat covers and carpets after 3 years of ferrying toddlers around.

my neighbours son was telling me how cheap his leased fabia is...but hes already wrecked one alloy wheel...and he parks it on a building site all day next to dust, stones, heavy machinery all day then drives home in his overalls...it'll cost him a fortune when he puts that car back.
PointDex

Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car … Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car for 6k and sell it later losing some money but still get MAJORITY of it back


He never said you get money back at the end of it! Why is it so painful trying to explain how a lease deal works to ignorant people. Everyone who leases a car KNOWS you can buy a cheaper second hand car and sell it a few years down the line. But that's not the point! Maybe they don't want a second hand car and would like to drive a new car and return it rather than buying a brand new car and losing out on the deprecation and then having to sell it on etc etc. Christ how many times can this be explained?
I'm voting hot as it will make a lovely Taxi for someone
That works out at 31.6p per mile even if you don't drive it anywhere. If you want money saving and not a pretentious piece of metal this is the wrong deal for you.
PointDex

Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car … Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car for 6k and sell it later losing some money but still get MAJORITY of it back



What happens to the depreciation? Do you get that back? So you are still losing money....

The difference is with a lease I know exactly how much my exposure/risk will be costing me as I pay the same amount every month!
Biggunspaul

There are some sports cars that go up in value,even from brand new.I … There are some sports cars that go up in value,even from brand new.I would have thought that someone with your user name would know that.look at the new focus RS,they were selling for thousands more than they cost to buy new from a dealer.I've not lost a single penny in owning my Evo,in fact it's gone up in price.I'm not saying leasing isn't any good,just pointing out that not all cars depreciate.



True, but you have to know what to buy and then keep them for a long long long time to get back anything you put into it. I'm guessing you maybe have an Evo 6, or a TME? To make money on one of those you would have to have bought it back when it wasn't that old and keep it well past the 10 year mark.

My mate still has his 22b that he paid £18k for used, it's now worth upwards of £40-50k.

I don't have my Focus now, but I was on the verge of buying an Impreza P1 last year and I know they will go up in value as they bottomed out last year at around £7-8k. But in the end I decided I just couldn't face the work involved in running a 10+ year old car and all the hassle that it involves. Yes you might make money on it, but if you just want a new warrantied car then buying new is worth it, to me anyway.

I was then going to buy the new Focus RS but realised that £36k for a Ford was just not worth it, my old Focus ST was a money pit at just 1 year old. Went for an M240i in the end and couldn't be happier, flying machine!!
PointDex

Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car … Duh you still get money back, this is 6k done the hole. U cud buy a car for 6k and sell it later losing some money but still get MAJORITY of it back



That's fine if you want to drive round in some old **** but if you want a new car then leasing is fine, again depending on the vehicle though. Some cars are better bought, some better leased.
FocusST

That's fine if you want to drive round in some old **** but if you want a … That's fine if you want to drive round in some old **** but if you want a new car then leasing is fine, again depending on the vehicle though. Some cars are better bought, some better leased.



Ye that's what I meant, plus I don't think anyone shud be leasing unless they own their house, which they probably dont
Regprentice

​for me thats half the argument, the other half is that , even if that £ … ​for me thats half the argument, the other half is that , even if that £20k car is only going to cost you £6k you still have a potential £20k liability.A family friend had her son write-off her leased audi (26k car) - as a member of the family drove it without pemission she wasnt covered by her insurance. (a common policy term). i've had people damage my car in car parks (buckled rear quarter panel), wife reversed our car into a wall trying to avoid a delivery lorry blocking our road - both claims without a 3rd party that i dont want to be making. i can live with the damage its only cosmetic...but a lease company would't have any of it. cats sit on my car and scratch the paintwork. My kids got waterproof suntan lotion on which has wrecked the paintwork where its clouded the lacquer. even a 200 quid steam valet isnt going to clean the seat covers and carpets after 3 years of ferrying toddlers around.my neighbours son was telling me how cheap his leased fabia is...but hes already wrecked one alloy wheel...and he parks it on a building site all day next to dust, stones, heavy machinery all day then drives home in his overalls...it'll cost him a fortune when he puts that car back.



Surely that's down to the owner though and how you look after them? My wifes car we bought at 6 months old back in 2010 and we've had it for 7 years, ferrying kids around, going to the tip, normal family duties and whilst it has the odd thing here and there it's by no means tatty.

If it was a lease it would cost next to nothing to sort any of the minor things that need doing even after 7 years. When it was 4 years old it was still mint.
FocusST

True, but you have to know what to buy and then keep them for a long long … True, but you have to know what to buy and then keep them for a long long long time to get back anything you put into it. I'm guessing you maybe have an Evo 6, or a TME? To make money on one of those you would have to have bought it back when it wasn't that old and keep it well past the 10 year mark.My mate still has his 22b that he paid £18k for used, it's now worth upwards of £40-50k.I don't have my Focus now, but I was on the verge of buying an Impreza P1 last year and I know they will go up in value as they bottomed out last year at around £7-8k. But in the end I decided I just couldn't face the work involved in running a 10+ year old car and all the hassle that it involves. Yes you might make money on it, but if you just want a new warrantied car then buying new is worth it, to me anyway.I was then going to buy the new Focus RS but realised that £36k for a Ford was just not worth it, my old Focus ST was a money pit at just 1 year old. Went for an M240i in the end and couldn't be happier, flying machine!!



No,Evo X 408bhp

I'm not a Ford fan myself but I do know that there were RS's that had a few k on the clock that were actually selling for more than the cost of a new one.

Yes it isn't often that cars will go up in value but if you are in the market for something a bit special than you can have free motoring or even make money without having to own it for years,just need to get your name down early.
FocusST

Surely that's down to the owner though and how you look after them? My … Surely that's down to the owner though and how you look after them? My wifes car we bought at 6 months old back in 2010 and we've had it for 7 years, ferrying kids around, going to the tip, normal family duties and whilst it has the odd thing here and there it's by no means tatty.If it was a lease it would cost next to nothing to sort any of the minor things that need doing even after 7 years. When it was 4 years old it was still mint.



I bet if Ford release some limited edition version of the RS (RS 500 equivalent) it will be worth just as much in 12 months time of buying it from new ,as long as you don't go putting silly miles on the clock.
Biggunspaul

I bet if Ford release some limited edition version of the RS (RS 500 … I bet if Ford release some limited edition version of the RS (RS 500 equivalent) it will be worth just as much in 12 months time of buying it from new ,as long as you don't go putting silly miles on the clock.


A limited edition Mustang would probably do the same.
118luke

A limited edition Mustang would probably do the same.



If it's sporty,popular and made in limited numbers,then there is free motoring/money to be made.
frozencake

I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the … I don't get lease cars, paying £6k+ and the car isn't even yours at the end of it? Where is the benefit of having one



​Sssh, don't complain and let them lease it. Then we can buy it 2 years old for half the price, lol.
And start to pay for when things start to go wrong when out of warranty. One of the other advantages of leasing or PCP particularly over 2 years is that the only maintenance required is one service. Unless you're doing high mileage (not usually recommended if leasing) you wouldn't need to replace the tyres either.
Biggunspaul

I bet if Ford release some limited edition version of the RS (RS 500 … I bet if Ford release some limited edition version of the RS (RS 500 equivalent) it will be worth just as much in 12 months time of buying it from new ,as long as you don't go putting silly miles on the clock.



Absolutely, the problem is you then have to really look after them and keep the miles down so I would be worried going out in it all the time.

The last RS500 is still making huge money though, even though it was FWD and not that special over the normal Mk2 RS. I'm not a Ford man either, I was always into Jap stuff until I moved to BMW 7 years back. Still fancy a P1 though or an Evo 6 TME.
p_ist_a

​Sssh, don't complain and let them lease it. Then we can buy it 2 years o … ​Sssh, don't complain and let them lease it. Then we can buy it 2 years old for half the price, lol.



And be driving round in a car that you have no idea of how it's been driven, or if it's been painted, crashed etc regardless of what HPI say.

And you only have a years warranty etc etc.

Nothing wrong with that route if you are happy with that, but leasing is always about buying new.
Mada06

I don't get buying a car outright, spending £xk+ outright and watching it … I don't get buying a car outright, spending £xk+ outright and watching it depreciate on my drive. Where is the benefit of having one



​why buy anything new then when you van buy anything second hand?

for you to be able to buy second hand cars someone had to buy them new in the first place.

do you understand if nobody bought new cars the second hand car market would be a lot more expensive and the only thing you could afford is a corsa?

so the more decent brand new cars people lease or buy the more will be available second hand on years to come.

without them you wouldnt have a car
Just a thought - is it worth updating the title to include 'Lease'? I've got 'lease' on an alert and wondered why I couldn't find this agian this morning.
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da1em

Just a thought - is it worth updating the title to include 'Lease'? I've … Just a thought - is it worth updating the title to include 'Lease'? I've got 'lease' on an alert and wondered why I couldn't find this agian this morning.


Added to title and tags :-)
Slightly cheaper here:

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p_ist_a

​Sssh, don't complain and let them lease it. Then we can buy it 2 years o … ​Sssh, don't complain and let them lease it. Then we can buy it 2 years old for half the price, lol.



Why would you want you buy and own a second-hand diesel car with the long-list of maintenance problems?
The people that don't buy new cars and don't understand leasing are generally those driving round in a car they bought for 10k saying they drive a 30k pound motor.
da1em

Frozencake - the benefit of having a car on lease is simple... if the … Frozencake - the benefit of having a car on lease is simple... if the deal is right for you.Example - the car I have now is a Merc GLA, 30k list price. Over 2 years on lease I would have paid ~£6,500.After 2 years this car is now worth less than £23,500. So if you were to sell it you would have spent more on the car over 2 years owning it, than I would have for borrowing it



Where did you get that GLA deal, sounds rather good!
FocusST

I will teach you as nobody ever seems to get lease/PCP deals, and you … I will teach you as nobody ever seems to get lease/PCP deals, and you won't be the first to comment.Lets say you go and buy your own brand new car, and it costs you £30,000 all in with interest, loans etc etc. Remember we are talking brand new cars, not 3 year old used cars.You own it for 4 years and it's now worth £10,000. So that car has cost you £20,000 over 4 years, which equates to £416 per month. Now imagine you go back 4 years and lease the identical car at a monthly rate of £350. You pay £350 each month for 4 years and then give the car back. You have spent less each month on owning the same car so it has been cheaper to lease rather than buy.It doesn't always work out cheaper, depends on the car in question and the GFV etcSo when looking at a lease you have to roughly work out what buying a car would cost in real terms per month (including tyres, servicing, mot etc) and then compare that to leasing.PCP is different again in that you can own the car after the initial term. I PCP my new car and fully intend to buy it after 4 years, effectively meaning I can purchase a more expensive car over a 6 year period with the same monthly payments as a cheaper car over 4 years - again only beneficial if you plan on keeping it, or want to swap to a new car every 3-4 years.If you're not bothered about new cars then yes there are cheaper ways to do it, e.g. buying an older used car, but some don't want to do that.


not to mention the time and hassle it takes to sell expensive cars...
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