Smith & Locke 5-Pin Euro Double Cylinder Lock 35-50 (85mm) Nickel £2.99 - Screwfix
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Smith & Locke 5-Pin Euro Double Cylinder Lock 35-50 (85mm) Nickel £2.99 - Screwfix

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Found 7th Mar
A robust 5-pin cylinder approved for use on 30 and 60 minute fire doors. Suitable for use in domestic and commercial environments where standard levels of security need to be achieved. Supplied with 3 keys and fixings.
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No anti snap or anti pick or any BSI rating , wouldn't use one myself , protecting your house with a cheap lock false economy
The chances of this lock being the right size are minute, as both sides of the lock need to be pretty much exact to within a few millimetres. If it sticks out more than this, assuming too long, a set of mole grips will have it off in a matter of seconds. Also, consider your house insurance and how it may be affected by using the cheap lock!
Much better spending a bit more and getting some Avocet locks abs-secure.co.uk/ and actually have some security. You may as well just leave your door unlocked with the posted locks on here. Thieves can get in silently in seconds.
Good price although I'd be tempted to pay a bit more for anti snap/anti bump cylinder (especially if I was in a higher crime rate area).

Still hot from me though for people that just need a basic lock.
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Great price! Thanks for sharing!
Good price although I'd be tempted to pay a bit more for anti snap/anti bump cylinder (especially if I was in a higher crime rate area).

Still hot from me though for people that just need a basic lock.
At this price worth a punt as I'm moving house tomorrow and even if this lock is the wrong size to replace any of the locks on my new pad I'll be able to return them for a refund.

Obviously if they do fit then I've got another bargain from Screwfix as it will have been cheaper to replace the locks than get spare keys cut.
No anti snap or anti pick or any BSI rating , wouldn't use one myself , protecting your house with a cheap lock false economy
The chances of this lock being the right size are minute, as both sides of the lock need to be pretty much exact to within a few millimetres. If it sticks out more than this, assuming too long, a set of mole grips will have it off in a matter of seconds. Also, consider your house insurance and how it may be affected by using the cheap lock!
It has EN 1303 (1-6-0-1-0-C-3-0) rating
Edited by: "hhali" 7th Mar
hhali13 m ago

It has EN 1303 (1-6-0-1-0-C-3-0) rating



The importanat number is the last digital and as its a zero that means its grade 0 in security details seen here 33392200-NY73e.jpg
Edited by: "paulj48" 7th Mar
smallsteve1 h, 37 m ago

The chances of this lock being the right size are minute, as both sides of …The chances of this lock being the right size are minute, as both sides of the lock need to be pretty much exact to within a few millimetres. If it sticks out more than this, assuming too long, a set of mole grips will have it off in a matter of seconds. Also, consider your house insurance and how it may be affected by using the cheap lock!



As long as the external facing part of the barrel is flush this negates that issue.
I had to change the lock on my front door, was quoted £70 from local locksmith. Went on YouTube and watched a 3 min video, it's very easy job that anyone can do. Cost £15 for the lock from Tool Station and less than 5 mins to fiddle round to install it.
Much better spending a bit more and getting some Avocet locks abs-secure.co.uk/ and actually have some security. You may as well just leave your door unlocked with the posted locks on here. Thieves can get in silently in seconds.
dantesfireplace11 m ago

As long as the external facing part of the barrel is flush this negates …As long as the external facing part of the barrel is flush this negates that issue.


That's incorrect - if it's flush with the handle, then the thief will just snap the handle first giving them plenty of purchase for snapping the lock.

If you value your property then you should avoid these cheap nasty locks.

For anyone not sure what I'm on about go on YouTube and put "lock snapping" in.
HaroFreestyler4 m ago

That's incorrect - if it's flush with the handle, then the thief will just …That's incorrect - if it's flush with the handle, then the thief will just snap the handle first giving them plenty of purchase for snapping the lock.If you value your property then you should avoid these cheap nasty locks.For anyone not sure what I'm on about go on YouTube and put "lock snapping" in.



That's also dependant on the star rating of the door handle as well, if you have a 2 star handle then this protects against lock snapping.
Please spend a little more and get a snap proof lock. Part of my job is to break into people’s houses and I’d have this snapped and the door open in minutes.
paulj487 m ago

That's also dependant on the star rating of the door handle as well, if …That's also dependant on the star rating of the door handle as well, if you have a 2 star handle then this protects against lock snapping.


Yes that's true.

I have PAS24 handles and 3* locks so technically I have a 5* setup.
jrw24 m ago

Much better spending a bit more and getting some Avocet locks …Much better spending a bit more and getting some Avocet locks https://www.abs-secure.co.uk/ and actually have some security. You may as well just leave your door unlocked with the posted locks on here. Thieves can get in silently in seconds.


Just let all the cheapskates secure their houses with Mickey mouse locks and give the crooks an easy target so they bypass us with Avocets
BikerTaz693 h, 42 m ago

At this price worth a punt as I'm moving house tomorrow and even if this …At this price worth a punt as I'm moving house tomorrow and even if this lock is the wrong size to replace any of the locks on my new pad I'll be able to return them for a refund. Obviously if they do fit then I've got another bargain from Screwfix as it will have been cheaper to replace the locks than get spare keys cut.


IMHO you shouldn't even consider getting new keys cut, change the locks front and back. You don't know who might have keys that the previous occupant has forgotten to collect and pass on to you.
WhitmoreReans1 h, 22 m ago

Please spend a little more and get a snap proof lock. Part of my job is to …Please spend a little more and get a snap proof lock. Part of my job is to break into people’s houses and I’d have this snapped and the door open in minutes.


Snap proof locks aren't much of a defence against b*m* keys though, are they?
Doesn't matter what lock you use if a burglar want to get in he will. I know a chap - now reformed having spent 7 years in prison - for whom burglary was a way of life. High end homes with top of the range locks etc - none of it stops a professional thief.

He would say " you can only keep an honest man out".
paulj483 h, 27 m ago

That's also dependant on the star rating of the door handle as well, if …That's also dependant on the star rating of the door handle as well, if you have a 2 star handle then this protects against lock snapping.


What if I've just got Ultion and ABS Avocet locks? Do I need the handles too?
bargains4us4 m ago

What if I've just got Ultion and ABS Avocet locks? Do I need the handles …What if I've just got Ultion and ABS Avocet locks? Do I need the handles too?



No.
It's worth getting the handles if they are cheap enough.

Luckily I got some cheap mispriced handles from eBay which they honoured, can't remember the brand but they are a proper brand, Mila or similar. May as well have locks and handles, plus sash jammers if you can as well.
dantesfireplace6 h, 16 m ago

As long as the external facing part of the barrel is flush this negates …As long as the external facing part of the barrel is flush this negates that issue.


Wrong! The thief of today simply rips of the handle furniture from the outside (Which is usually only held on with 2 screws from the inside and soft metal so easily chiseled off) then clamps on the mole grips to the now exposed protruding barrel (now not flush), seconds later and Voila access granted.
paulj486 h, 27 m ago

The importanat number is the last digital and as its a zero that means its …The importanat number is the last digital and as its a zero that means its grade 0 in security details seen here [Image]



Been trying to find out about my lock, but the last digit is now a letter. Might have changed with EN 1303:2015 standard with A to D as eighth character.
Edited by: "Arstar" 7th Mar
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Interesting that they can be used on 30 minute and 60 minute fire doors. And what are you NOT supposed to do with a fire door. Yes, you are not supposed to lock it lol. If it's an exit door that needs to be fire rated then it would need to have a push pad on the inside meaning these cylinders are totally wrong for use on a fire door.
Please could ppl post info/ links to high security locks and handles for upvc patio doors.

It has shoot bolts etc but would like to change the barrel and/or handle if it improves security?

Thank you
Kevlar.Engineer14 h, 0 m ago

Please could ppl post info/ links to high security locks and handles for …Please could ppl post info/ links to high security locks and handles for upvc patio doors. It has shoot bolts etc but would like to change the barrel and/or handle if it improves security? Thank you


Have a look through here - euro-secure.com

The locks are not cheap, think mine were around £200 for 3 locks but they are well worth it for piece of mind.
Smartguy17th Mar

Interesting that they can be used on 30 minute and 60 minute fire doors. …Interesting that they can be used on 30 minute and 60 minute fire doors. And what are you NOT supposed to do with a fire door. Yes, you are not supposed to lock it lol. If it's an exit door that needs to be fire rated then it would need to have a push pad on the inside meaning these cylinders are totally wrong for use on a fire door.


Don't think it means fire exit doors.

Just fire doors that are internal doors to stop the spread of smoke and fire in a break out, for example the front door of each home in a block of flats, or to rooms in hotels.
Kevlar.Engineer7th Mar

Please could ppl post info/ links to high security locks and handles for …Please could ppl post info/ links to high security locks and handles for upvc patio doors. It has shoot bolts etc but would like to change the barrel and/or handle if it improves security? Thank you



I'm no locksmith so do some research but when I looked into it a while ago, these seemed a good choice for locks.

barnsleylock.co.uk/avo…asp
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