Smith & Locke 5-Pin Euro Double Cylinder Lock 35-50 (85mm) Nickel - Screwfix - £2.99 - free C&C
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Smith & Locke 5-Pin Euro Double Cylinder Lock 35-50 (85mm) Nickel - Screwfix - £2.99 - free C&C

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Found 9th Mar
Seems like a decent price if looking for a replacement cylinder. Also do it in brass for same price.
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See the other thread on these, you’d have more luck stopping thieves if you used a lock made from chocolate!
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HaroFreestyler2 m ago

See the other thread on these, you’d have more luck stopping thieves if y …See the other thread on these, you’d have more luck stopping thieves if you used a lock made from chocolate!



lol... Do you have a link?
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Ah... Maybe I'll take it back after all...
Must be the burglars voting this hot...
Go on YouTube and search for “lock snapping”, frightening stuff!

I had no idea about it until two years ago, and thought my house was secure cos it had upvc doors.

How wrong I was!
Edited by: "HaroFreestyler" 9th Mar
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cynikill2 m ago

Must be the burglars voting this hot...



lol. Maybe useful in a low security area, insides perhaps?
SweatySock3 m ago

lol. Maybe useful in a low security area, insides perhaps?


Toilet door?
We learnt the hard way. Two cars stolen with keys. Wish I’d know how completely useless standard euro locks are.
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Guys, is this just on this particular lock or Smith & Locke in general? I've just ordered two padlocks for a different varient for the caravan shed
Save your money and leave door unlocked, save the damage or get some Avocet locks for more £ but know you're a lot safer.
BuzzDuraband30 m ago

Guys, is this just on this particular lock or Smith & Locke in general? …Guys, is this just on this particular lock or Smith & Locke in general? I've just ordered two padlocks for a different varient for the caravan shed


Any brand of standard euro lock is unsafe.

You you need to use antisnap such as ABS, Ultion etc. Not cheap, but effective against anyone but a pro locksmith.
It’s beyond me, people pay so much for a super secure front door, and a £1 lock gets put in them.
ABS Avocet locks are about the safest you can get. I got mine years ago with replacement handles etc which almost completely cover the cylinder making the baddies job much harder. Does "decent price" matter, even on HUKD, when you are protecting everything you own?
Edited by: "banjomike" 10th Mar
Like others have said avoid at all costs the type of lock in the OP.

For only a pound or so more get these:

ebay.co.uk/itm…kfA

Just to let you know what these are like. My son managed to snap a key off inside one of these locks with the door locked open. A so called lock smith arrived and it took him over and hour to get the lock out! In the process he managed to damage the multi lock rail so it cost me £75 for his 'handy work' and almost £100 for a new rail!! So if he took him over an hour with the door open I can just imagine how long it would have took with the door shut
steevieboy4u18 m ago

Like others have said avoid at all costs the type of lock in the OP.For …Like others have said avoid at all costs the type of lock in the OP.For only a pound or so more get these:https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SecEuro-Euro-PVC-uPVC-Door-Lock-3-Keys-Anti-Drill-Pick-Bump-Snap-Brass-or-Silver/332555591582?hash=item4d6ddb9f9e:m:mwKnUjSleMlZgH8lvx19kfAJust to let you know what these are like. My son managed to snap a key off inside one of these locks with the door locked open. A so called lock smith arrived and it took him over and hour to get the lock out! In the process he managed to damage the multi lock rail so it cost me £75 for his 'handy work' and almost £100 for a new rail!! So if he took him over an hour with the door open I can just imagine how long it would have took with the door shut


These are just as bad as the Screwfix locks, you must have had a complete chancer out as your “locksmith”!
jrw9 h, 30 m ago

Save your money and leave door unlocked, save the damage or get some …Save your money and leave door unlocked, save the damage or get some Avocet locks for more £ but know you're a lot safer.



I like the Evva MCS Magnetic Code System locks, but at £250 each its a lot of money. That said what price security, what really puts me off is its £40 a key when you lose one
moneybag1 m ago

These are just as bad as the Screwfix locks, you must have had a complete …These are just as bad as the Screwfix locks, you must have had a complete chancer out as your “locksmith”!



Why are they just as bad............They are supposed to be anti snap, bump, drill etc?
moneybag11 m ago

These are just as bad as the Screwfix locks, you must have had a complete …These are just as bad as the Screwfix locks, you must have had a complete chancer out as your “locksmith”!



The trouble with standard Euro locks, they snap where the screw hole is that holds them inside the door. The thief then gets access to the spindle and they can twist it and unlock the door. The locks I linked snap a cm after where the key is fitted so protecting the spindle and preventing further access to the lock itself.

So can you please explain why you said what you said as I've got some of these fitted at my current house and would like to know either way if they are safe or not??
banjomike7 h, 30 m ago

ABS Avocet locks are about the safest you can get. I got mine years ago …ABS Avocet locks are about the safest you can get. I got mine years ago with replacement handles etc which almost completely cover the cylinder making the baddies job much harder. Does "decent price" matter, even on HUKD, when you are protecting everything you own?


Is this the best one? And is it better to have 1 key for front, back and conservatory?

buyabslocks.co.uk/pro…BwE
I fitted Yale kite-marked locks, which are anti-bump. A bit more expensive, but not that much.
steevieboy4u30 m ago

The trouble with standard Euro locks, they snap where the screw hole is …The trouble with standard Euro locks, they snap where the screw hole is that holds them inside the door. The thief then gets access to the spindle and they can twist it and unlock the door. The locks I linked snap a cm after where the key is fitted so protecting the spindle and preventing further access to the lock itself.So can you please explain why you said what you said as I've got some of these fitted at my current house and would like to know either way if they are safe or not??


homesecurityandsafety.co.uk/pag…rds

The fact they are unmarked, if they have been professionally tested instead of bloated ebay claims they will be kite marked, star rated and/or sold secure rated.
If you watch the video cigbunt posted above, you will see that the lock in the video also has the sacrificial anti-snap cut which didn’t snap when it was supposed to.
The most obvious indicator of quality is price, a good Avocet ABS lock is north of £35. It costs the manufacturers money to get their products securely designed, built and certified.
I wouldn’t trust a six quid lock to protect the contents of my house
moneybag26 m ago

https://www.homesecurityandsafety.co.uk/pages/euro-cylinder-standardsThe …https://www.homesecurityandsafety.co.uk/pages/euro-cylinder-standardsThe fact they are unmarked, if they have been professionally tested instead of bloated ebay claims they will be kite marked, star rated and/or sold secure rated.If you watch the video cigbunt posted above, you will see that the lock in the video also has the sacrificial anti-snap cut which didn’t snap when it was supposed to.The most obvious indicator of quality is price, a good Avocet ABS lock is north of £35. It costs the manufacturers money to get their products securely designed, built and certified.I wouldn’t trust a six quid lock to protect the contents of my house



moneybag26 m ago

https://www.homesecurityandsafety.co.uk/pages/euro-cylinder-standardsThe …https://www.homesecurityandsafety.co.uk/pages/euro-cylinder-standardsThe fact they are unmarked, if they have been professionally tested instead of bloated ebay claims they will be kite marked, star rated and/or sold secure rated.If you watch the video cigbunt posted above, you will see that the lock in the video also has the sacrificial anti-snap cut which didn’t snap when it was supposed to.The most obvious indicator of quality is price, a good Avocet ABS lock is north of £35. It costs the manufacturers money to get their products securely designed, built and certified.I wouldn’t trust a six quid lock to protect the contents of my house


I’m sure the ones I got are Kite Marked, I may have linked the wrong EBay item? Either way they are still better than the standard Euro Locks for people on a budget. But I can see where you are coming from with the Avocet ABS they do sound better and also have the additional magnetic feature, so for £36 to get that extra piece of mind……Might be time to upgrade mine
moneybag1 h, 1 m ago

https://www.homesecurityandsafety.co.uk/pages/euro-cylinder-standardsThe …https://www.homesecurityandsafety.co.uk/pages/euro-cylinder-standardsThe fact they are unmarked, if they have been professionally tested instead of bloated ebay claims they will be kite marked, star rated and/or sold secure rated.If you watch the video cigbunt posted above, you will see that the lock in the video also has the sacrificial anti-snap cut which didn’t snap when it was supposed to.The most obvious indicator of quality is price, a good Avocet ABS lock is north of £35. It costs the manufacturers money to get their products securely designed, built and certified.I wouldn’t trust a six quid lock to protect the contents of my house


Just buy Versa ones, I bought a box full at trade prices of around 2.99 each, they are designed to snap at either end (depending which way it's mounted) . Why pay 30 or 40 quid?

Anti pick/drill/snap and you get 5 keys
airfix10 m ago

Just buy Versa ones, I bought a box full at trade prices of around 2.99 …Just buy Versa ones, I bought a box full at trade prices of around 2.99 each, they are designed to snap at either end (depending which way it's mounted) . Why pay 30 or 40 quid? Anti pick/drill/snap and you get 5 keys



Where from?
i have avocet paid about £40 a lock..

buy cheap and you'll pay the price

amazon.co.uk/Avo…ock
Thanks for the info, good to know these things.
I need a replacement one of these

Does the measurement related to the length of this or the thickness of the door.

If I remove the older one and measure it, is that what i search for?
Deedie2 m ago

I need a replacement one of theseDoes the measurement related to the …I need a replacement one of theseDoes the measurement related to the length of this or the thickness of the door. If I remove the older one and measure it, is that what i search for?



Measure either side from the centre of the screw hole in the middle
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Those of you obsessed with your door barrel, how secure are your windows? A thief will go around the back and force a window sash, if you have espagnolette gearing with no anti gem then it's easier to get in than a door.
steevieboy4u2 m ago

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In that example, can't you just measure the total length, as opposed to taking 2 measurements!

Never mind. I get it now. Cheers
Edited by: "Deedie" 10th Mar
Deedie1 m ago

In that example, can't you just measure the total length, as opposed to …In that example, can't you just measure the total length, as opposed to taking 2 measurements!



Nope, some are different i.e like in the example 40mm / 45mm
cigbunt47 m ago

i have avocet paid about £40 a lock..buy cheap and you'll pay the price …i have avocet paid about £40 a lock..buy cheap and you'll pay the price https://www.amazon.co.uk/Avocet-ABS-High-Security-Cylinder/dp/B00QAIDB98/ref=sr_1_2?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1520674369&sr=1-2&keywords=anti+snap+lock


How much does extra keys cost for those? Any idea?
steevieboy4u2 m ago

Nope, some are different i.e like in the example 40mm / 45mm


Cheers I figured it out.

Going to order a decent one of these after watching some of the youtube videos
airfix5 m ago

Those of you obsessed with your door barrel, how secure are your windows? …Those of you obsessed with your door barrel, how secure are your windows? A thief will go around the back and force a window sash, if you have espagnolette gearing with no anti gem then it's easier to get in than a door.


Learn something new everyday on HUKD
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