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I spent the morning looking into this and hope that it will save others a bit of time. These are all sealed battery units with a battery life of 10 years and a 5 year warranty. They are interconnected wirelessly so if one goes off they all go off. Delivery is free for orders over £100. These appear to be better than the (more expensive) Firehawk W Series which need a separate base with its own battery that lasts only 7 years. This was the best deal I could find. The new law in Scotland starts on 1 February and your home insurance cover might be affected if you don't have them. Some of these units are on back order until February.

I'm annoyed that Nest Protect does not comply with these regulations as there is no separate heat detector and I fitted them only a couple of years ago

HiSPEC BATTERY OPERATED RADIO FREQUENCY HEAT ALARM £21.49
HiSPEC BATTERY OPERATED RF PHOTOELECTRIC SMOKE ALARM £19.92
HiSPEC CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR WITH LITHIUM BATTERY & RF FUNCTION £39.82 (although you can get cheaper ones that are not interconnected, the law permits these)
HiSPEC RADIO FREQUENCY CONTROL UNIT FOR RF PRO ALARMS £38.09 (the detectors will work without this but if you have high ceilings it's easier than climbing a ladder to check each unit & pause battery alarms)

By February 2022 every home in Scotland must have:

  • one smoke alarm in the living room or the room you use most
  • one smoke alarm in every hallway or landing
  • one heat alarm in the kitchen
All smoke and heat alarms should be mounted on the ceiling and be interlinked.

If you have a carbon-fuelled appliance – like a boiler, fire, heater or flue – in any room, you must also have a carbon monoxide detector in that room, but this does not need to be linked to the fire alarms.

FWIW these are a fraction of the cost of a Nest Protect system but without all the unnecessary bells & whistles.
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    jhw20/01/2022 23:16

    Better off getting one at Screwfix for £12.99 …Better off getting one at Screwfix for £12.99 https://www.screwfix.com/p/fireangel-st-622q-battery-standalone-thermoptek-smoke-alarm/2547d


    These don't comply with new regulations for houses. The alarm has to interconnected. This is a stand alone model. No interconnect
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    cootcee6421/01/2022 13:54

    Still need to have carbon monoxide alarms fitted also but unsure if this …Still need to have carbon monoxide alarms fitted also but unsure if this is compulsory yet in Scotland


    Pretty clear: mygov.scot/hom…ety

    "If you have a carbon-fuelled appliance, like a boiler, fire, heater or flue you must also have a carbon monoxide detector. This does not need to be linked to the fire alarms. Gas cookers and hobs do not need a carbon monoxide detector."

    and

    "1 carbon monoxide alarm in any room where you have a carbon-fuelled appliance like a boiler or wood-burning fire place"
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    Something to bear in mind, the wireless rf batter alarms are much smaller than standard alarms which may surprise you upon delivery when you realise you have to redecorate. This is why I opted to replace hard wired old ones for hard wired hispec as the dimensions match so no redecoration required
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    As a qualified electrician DO NOT install these, we have been replacing Dozens of homes in the last year with these cheap/unreliable detectors
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    Stone:

    Ordered Firehawk set, any good ?

    We have never used them so can't comment, we use 2 brand which we reccomend, Fireangel and AICO, thanks
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    andrewmclachlan120/01/2022 20:23

    As a qualified electrician DO NOT install these, we have been replacing …As a qualified electrician DO NOT install these, we have been replacing Dozens of homes in the last year with these cheap/unreliable detectors


    Installed a set of Hispecs in my tenant's flat last month. Last week he had an accident in the kitchen when cooking oil caught fire. Heat alarm went off and activated others as it should. I'm not sure what else to expect from fire alarms? They are small, unobstructive and easy to install.
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    "However, insurance company, AXA, contacted the Herald to inform them of their current plans regarding the new law change.


    Dougie Barnett, Customer Risk Management Director, said, “As an insurer, our core purpose is protection and with this in mind, we support the installation of interlinked alarms to help people evacuate their homes safety if required. This is an important change for everyone to make, including developers of new build properties.

    We encourage installation as soon as possible however AXA will not invalidate a home insurance claim for existing customers who haven’t yet complied with the new law in Scotland.”

    When asked if there is a time limit for AXA customers to abide to install new alarms or if it would be a condition upon renewed policies, a spokesperson replied: “We would communicate with our customers in advance of any alteration”


    Everyones just blaming the SNP basically
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    I bought the Hispec heat and smoke alarms around 2 months ago. I didn't have £100 to spend on bigger name brands, and these were also the ONLY ones i could find online that weren't out of stock in Scotland. I evetually found them via Express Electrical and installed them quickly and easily. I've test them several times since and they always pick up heat and smoke.
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    andrewmclachlan120/01/2022 20:23

    As a qualified electrician DO NOT install these, we have been replacing …As a qualified electrician DO NOT install these, we have been replacing Dozens of homes in the last year with these cheap/unreliable detectors


    Specifically these HiSpec ones? How did they fail? Were they returned to HiSpec for analysis, reported to trading standards?

    HiSpec are based in Chorley and have been around for 20 years so I was hoping they'd have a reputation to maintain and wouldn't put their name to sub-standard products. Similar for the retailer, The Electrical Counter (based in Kent), 4.8 on trustpilot.
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    bbc.co.uk/new…855

    "The Scottish government said it had received assurances from the Association of British Insurers that while insurers may ask customers questions about whether the property is fitted with working fire alarms, they are not likely to ask questions about specific standards.

    However, anyone who is unclear on their policy terms and conditions in relation to the new law should speak to their insurer."
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    Stone20/01/2022 20:33

    Ordered Firehawk set, any good ?


    I have already fitted Firehawk in three houses and will install them in a fourth house next week. Easy to pair with each other and easy to install. I avoided FireAngel due to so many reports of battery failures. Time will tell regarding the Firehawk, but all good so far.

    mampuya_.20/01/2022 22:06

    The new law only relates to Scotland doesn't it?


    Yes, at present. (edited)
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    ccw7121/01/2022 09:34

    I watched Shona Robison's statement after speaking to my insurer 3 times …I watched Shona Robison's statement after speaking to my insurer 3 times for clarification. They stated that the home owner must comply with the regulation where they live or their claim will be disallowed. So she's speaking a load of tosh! Further confirming she has no idea, she said although people are saying they're having trouble getting the hardware, she hss been assured by "popular DIY stores" that they do have stock. Straight after, I checked B&Q, Screwfix and Toolstation. Nothing in stock and no date for restocking!


    It's a mess - each insurer seems to be taking their own view on it. Safest thing to do is just get them fitted ASAP.
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    powdersnake2322/01/2022 14:41

    Ordered. Nice one thank you, my other half is now less stressed (and less …Ordered. Nice one thank you, my other half is now less stressed (and less mad at me) because I didn't order some months ago when she asked me to! ? Fingers crossed they don't take too long to arrive.


    I already have mine but when I enquired today about timeline for family they were saying Friday. They took on extra staff but can't get them out the door fast enough.
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    andrewmclachlan121/01/2022 22:16

    Good luck with the reliability issues, good luck getting them replaced as …Good luck with the reliability issues, good luck getting them replaced as they won't send you out one, why risk putting in u reliable detectors, literally could be life or death, its okay though I'm only offering advice, not my house they are going in to


    @andrewmclachlan1 you never answered my earlier question. It sounds like you're saying you did previously install these specific models made by HiSpec. Can you say roughly what date you last installed one and had it go bad? There are different revisions of this model.

    It's also surprising to hear they appear not to honour the 5 year guarantee? Is that what you're saying? You followed the instructions to return them and they refused? What reason did they give? Did you follow it up with anyone else?
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    VivianDooshley21/01/2022 00:03

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58268855"The Scottish government …https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58268855"The Scottish government said it had received assurances from the Association of British Insurers that while insurers may ask customers questions about whether the property is fitted with working fire alarms, they are not likely to ask questions about specific standards.However, anyone who is unclear on their policy terms and conditions in relation to the new law should speak to their insurer."


    Do you have smoke alarms?
    Yes.
    Have some insurance.
    My house burnt down, I want to make a claim.
    Did you have compliant smoke alarms? We can't find a heat alarm in the ashes.
    No, you didn't specifically say I needed them.
    You can't have £250k then, sorry.

    I ordered some today, pain in the neck but not worth the risk imo (edited)
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    VivianDooshley21/01/2022 09:44

    Cool opinion bro. Sorry about givin you facts and sensible advice you …Cool opinion bro. Sorry about givin you facts and sensible advice you don't like


    You should stop insulting people with your cool story reply unless you want everyone to think you are a clown. Do you really think posting bullying insults is helpful. Reported
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    Shandally120/01/2022 20:43

    This makes the new Scottish alarm requirements affordable. Cheap is good …This makes the new Scottish alarm requirements affordable. Cheap is good and as long as they work when it matters which I’m sure they will then it’s a hot vote from me


    Well they have all the necessary BS Kitemarks and a 5 year warranty so that's good enough for me!
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    ccw7121/01/2022 09:34

    I watched Shona Robison's statement after speaking to my insurer 3 times …I watched Shona Robison's statement after speaking to my insurer 3 times for clarification. They stated that the home owner must comply with the regulation where they live or their claim will be disallowed. So she's speaking a load of tosh! Further confirming she has no idea, she said although people are saying they're having trouble getting the hardware, she hss been assured by "popular DIY stores" that they do have stock. Straight after, I checked B&Q, Screwfix and Toolstation. Nothing in stock and no date for restocking!


    *COOL STORY ALERT*

    Yeah, i don't know why every home insurer isn't issuing a statement to their Scottish customers confirming their stance on the matter. So far, the only one I've seen speak out via social media is Aviva who said their underwriting team are fine with existing fire alarms.

    Obviously there's a lot of opinion on the matter, the play safe option is to bite the bullet and splash out if you can afford it and can currently find some quality alarms that work flawlessly. There's no doubt plenty naughty cowboys coining it in with the pensioners thanks to the Scottish government telling people they MUST fit them and home insurers not speaking out, and don't get me started on the plastic waste of changing over millions of alarms, many will just bin the old ones. What's the recycling plan? So much for COP26.

    Anyhoo, my big opinions aside, you either get em fitted and relax with no beer money this week (we drink a lot in Scotland DO NOT ARGUE THIS FACT!!!), and by the way these new alarms are no doubt a good thing for those with mobility problems who need as much notice as possible to haul a$$. But if money's tight and you have working, tested alarms, then get on the blower or social media to your home insurer and get some proof in writing that your existing alarms will suffice for now. Upgrade when appropriate. All in agreement say AYE.

    *END OF COOL STORY*
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    Called Sainsburys Bank and Policy Expert. Both say not having them and hence not complying with local legislation would most likely invalidate a claim.
    So I guess I'll need to replace (or supliment) my good quality reliable stand alone detectors with inflated price cheap direct from China ones, as there are no decent ones available in the shops. Hell, the lithium batteries in them are more likely to cause a fire!

    Sounds like a great plan
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    I ordered these a few months ago ,the 10 year battery ones fitted them myself in minutes using tape and they are working flawlessly so far i'm not sure i would believe the expert electrician who posted they were rubbish, why would you need an electrician to fit battery operated smoke alarms?
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    VivianDooshley21/01/2022 00:03

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58268855"The Scottish government …https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58268855"The Scottish government said it had received assurances from the Association of British Insurers that while insurers may ask customers questions about whether the property is fitted with working fire alarms, they are not likely to ask questions about specific standards.However, anyone who is unclear on their policy terms and conditions in relation to the new law should speak to their insurer."


    I watched Shona Robison's statement after speaking to my insurer 3 times for clarification. They stated that the home owner must comply with the regulation where they live or their claim will be disallowed. So she's speaking a load of tosh! Further confirming she has no idea, she said although people are saying they're having trouble getting the hardware, she hss been assured by "popular DIY stores" that they do have stock. Straight after, I checked B&Q, Screwfix and Toolstation. Nothing in stock and no date for restocking!
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    dwl9921/01/2022 11:12

    The cheapest option is to go with all battery, by quite a margin. AICO do …The cheapest option is to go with all battery, by quite a margin. AICO do a mixed battery/mains range but it's twice the price and the detectors need changed approx every 10 years even if mains powered.


    That’s what I’ve noticed - the mains powered are a lot more yet there’s no real benefit that I can see. I’d be best to terminate the cables and push them back into the ceilings then just install battery units to cover the wholes.
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    Hi all,
    Have had the Firehawk wireless radio linked smoke alarms and also the Firehawk wireless Heat Alarm installed due to the upcoming Scottish law change regarding these House fire safety items.

    According to Certificate issued by the Installer, which i am unsure if legally required by scottish Law comes with 10 Year warranty on the Sealed Battery Heat Alarm and 7 years on the Sealed Battery Smoke Alarms
    But will need to double check with installion guy.

    Very little advertising from Scottish Government regarding this important impending law change and the confusion from insurance companies not helping things..

    Still need to have carbon monoxide alarms fitted also but unsure if this is compulsory yet in Scotland
    Hope this help
    cheers
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    andrewmclachlan121/01/2022 22:55

    Malcolm_Duff:So are you buying and supplying these? Or fitting on behalf …Malcolm_Duff:So are you buying and supplying these? Or fitting on behalf of clients? How many have you bought that failed and had no recourse with replacements?@Malcolm_Duff Me personally fitted 6 and had no fails, 3 of my holsalers had hundreds of electricians returning them and they took them off the shelf as they were sick of them being returned


    Fire alarms sit quietly for years doing nothing unless there is a fire . How can there possibly be hundreds getting returned all the time by electricians ?
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    Cluelessguy22/01/2022 10:40

    Sorry not a tech person.... I'm assuming if I bought these models, and the …Sorry not a tech person.... I'm assuming if I bought these models, and the heat detector, they would all interlink without the need for a control unit, is that correct?


    you can buy a control unit but it doesnt need on. Theycan use the usual test hush button
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    These were easy to fit and no problems so far
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    This makes the new Scottish alarm requirements affordable. Cheap is good and as long as they work when it matters which I’m sure they will then it’s a hot vote from me
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    andrewmclachlan120/01/2022 20:59

    binned-it:I was going to go with Fireangle Connect units but everywhere …binned-it:I was going to go with Fireangle Connect units but everywhere now seems to be out of stock other than Amazon sellers who have tripled the price of most of the units!That's because everyone is panicking and paying them all, we have done over 150 homes in the past month already, thanksdwl99:Well they have all the necessary BS Kitemarks and a 5 year warranty so that's good enough for me!Good luck getting a replacement from them, a warranty is only good if they actually send you a new one


    You know you can use the quote button. Means that the people you have quoted will get notified of your reply. If you copy and paste their question, they won't get notified
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    wulliedufc:

    What would you recommend mate?

    AICO or fireangel mate

    @wulliedufc
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    Just bought a set of these a week or two back and installed them. Easy to link and certainly work as a group (and loud!). Had to get a set to comply with Scottish regs but needed a new alarm anyway.

    Basically they need to be linked, have a 10 yr battery life, Heat alarm in a kitchen, smoke alarm in hallway and smoke alarm in room most occupied. Plus if you have a gas boiler or solid fuel in a room you need a CO detector but this doesn't need to be interconnected.

    One good thing is as they need replaced every 10 years and the battery life is 10 years you're better off just going for battery ones rather than installing extra mains ones and the hassle of any rewiring.
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    Ouzoherb21/01/2022 09:55

    You should stop insulting people with your cool story reply unless you …You should stop insulting people with your cool story reply unless you want everyone to think you are a clown. Do you really think posting bullying insults is helpful. Reported

    This subject matter is a hot topic right now in Scotland and it's causing anxiety and confusion amongst people. I originally posted word for word interesting info from BBC News regarding a quote of the government's take on the matter, which said your existing alarms shouldn't affect your home insurance policy, but wisely said you should contact your insurer for a definitive answer. And what did i get? I got a sarcastic opinionated reply, that was unhelpful in finding out said definitive answer. I respect your right to agree with @bubba2000 but fire is met with fire. Bad pun i know
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    dwl9921/01/2022 09:46

    It's a mess


    I agree with you that it's a mess and should be cleared up quickly and openly by the Scottish Government and every home insurance provider.

    dwl9921/01/2022 09:46

    each insurer seems to be taking their own view on it.


    But do we actually know yet which insurers are requiring/not requiring the new interlinked alarms? Aviva have said on social media they won't require you to have them, i can post a link or pic of that if it helps anyone. (edited)
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    binned-it21/01/2022 10:53

    I haven’t sorted mine yet but will do shortly. Currently have 2 smoke d …I haven’t sorted mine yet but will do shortly. Currently have 2 smoke detectors mains connected installed when the house was built 11 years ago. Do you think there’s any merit in buying mains powered interconnected units over battery ones when replacing the current two? Trying to see what the benefit of the mains powered ones are when the battery backup in them is also a sealed 10 year battery.I’ll need to get a battery one anyway for the living room (most occupied room) and a battery heat sensor for the kitchen.


    The cheapest option is to go with all battery, by quite a margin. AICO do a mixed battery/mains range but it's twice the price and the detectors need changed approx every 10 years even if mains powered.
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    binned-it21/01/2022 11:17

    That’s what I’ve noticed - the mains powered are a lot more yet there’s no …That’s what I’ve noticed - the mains powered are a lot more yet there’s no real benefit that I can see. I’d be best to terminate the cables and push them back into the ceilings then just install battery units to cover the wholes.


    I'm opting to mix mains with one battery powered for the living room. The hispec pro range can be mixed between mains and battery powered
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    mampuya_.20/01/2022 22:06

    The new law only relates to Scotland doesn't it?


    Googling it. It appears so.

    Should be made clear in posting.
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    low_level_devel21/01/2022 18:11

    Wish I’d known this…I now have dual alarms in the hall! Put them up with 3 …Wish I’d known this…I now have dual alarms in the hall! Put them up with 3m pads though so will just get mains and battery mix in ten years time….assuming these do last the ten years.


    Lol. I actually ordered all wireless then sent a few back in favour of the same sized hard wired ones
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    Michael_Long21/01/2022 19:20

    I need 4 smoke alarms and 1 heat alarms ,the hispec deal not going to …I need 4 smoke alarms and 1 heat alarms ,the hispec deal not going to deliver till mid February looking for another supplier or different quality brand , also need a similar amount for my dad's house thanks


    expresselectrical.net/his…BwE
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    ellie2721/01/2022 20:55

    Good luck finding some, myself and many others like us are also looking …Good luck finding some, myself and many others like us are also looking for them so there is a shortage. Would like to think the Scottish government will push the date a few months.


    I literally just posted where to buy instock
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