SnoopSnitch Security Research LabsTools Find missing patches Android Google Play Store Free App
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SnoopSnitch Security Research LabsTools Find missing patches Android Google Play Store Free App

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Found 12th AprEdited by:"sam_of_london"
Some Android phone manufacturers are lying to users about missed security updates
To help with that, SRL is releasing a tool called SnoopSnitch on the Play Store that can analyze your phone’s firmware for installed or missing Android security patches to see if you’re really safe. Free App
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By missing patches you presumably mean unreleased by the phone manufacturer? Given that your only recourse is to send nasty messages on their twitter feed or buy a new phone can't see the point in panicking about what are by and large remote risks for the majority of users. Unless I've missed something?
Edited by: "antonywhite37" 12th Apr
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antonywhite379 m ago

By missing patches you presumably mean unreleased by the phone …By missing patches you presumably mean unreleased by the phone manufacturer? Given that your only recourse is to send nasty messages on their twitter feed or buy a new phone can't see the point in panicking about what are by and large remote risks for the majority of users. Unless I've missed something?


At least you can know what you are up against and not have false sense of security . In USA people can launch class action cases for breach of trust against big manufacturers.And it is free app so does not cost anything to check.
Edited by: "sam_of_london" 12th Apr
sam_of_london6 m ago

At least you can know what you are up against and not have false sense of …At least you can know what you are up against and not have false sense of security . In USA people can launch class action cases for breach of trust against big manufacturers.And it is free app so does not cost anything to check.


So not a lot of good to us in the UK then.
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Is that Stan Laurel?
Thanks for this @sam_of_london - my S7 has had no OTA updates for over a year now, but despite me contacting Samsung repeatedly, I only get the response "If there are updates available for your phone, then you will receive them"... Now I can see that the last update I got was on 1st Jan 2017! 😡 Time to contact Samsung again methinks...
Bushes10 m ago

Is that Stan Laurel?


That's a vaguely human-looking Mark Zuckerberg lubricating his internal organs in a totally human way!
NeoDoug18 m ago

That's a vaguely human-looking Mark Zuckerberg lubricating his … That's a vaguely human-looking Mark Zuckerberg lubricating his internal organs in a totally human way!


Its a world away from those carefully planned pictures of him smiling and looking like one of the guys. He looks...alien.
Edited by: "Bushes" 13th Apr
Bushes14 h, 19 m ago

Its a world away from those carefully planned pictures of him smiling and …Its a world away from those carefully planned pictures of him smiling and looking like one of the guys. He looks...alien.

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I guess those clases with behavioural psychologists to appear more human didn't work well for him, yes that's right last year he actually took classes to seem more Human because of all the memes
Edited by: "Norseg" 14th Apr
This may require root for other parts for networking.
I had many Test Inconclusive entries though.
Good post.
Also, I think RouterCheck app originally referred me to Snoopsnitch.
Its an app for home routers.
Here is the link.
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NeoDoug116 h, 21 m ago

Thanks for this @sam_of_london - my S7 has had no OTA updates for over a …Thanks for this @sam_of_london - my S7 has had no OTA updates for over a year now, but despite me contacting Samsung repeatedly, I only get the response "If there are updates available for your phone, then you will receive them"... Now I can see that the last update I got was on 1st Jan 2017! 😡 Time to contact Samsung again methinks...


You're definitely missing some OTAs, I've had loads. It could be down to your network provider. You could always sign up for an account at SamMobile and download any of the most up-to-date official ROMs from there, but you need to know what you're doing with Odin to get it onto your phone.
dkl_uk7 h, 13 m ago

You're definitely missing some OTAs, I've had loads. It could be down to …You're definitely missing some OTAs, I've had loads. It could be down to your network provider. You could always sign up for an account at SamMobile and download any of the most up-to-date official ROMs from there, but you need to know what you're doing with Odin to get it onto your phone.


I'm with EE, but my phone was bought from a Samsung Experience Store (back when it was part of Carphone Warehouse), so is network unlocked...

As for downloading ROMs with Odin, I've seen all the Thor films - will that help? (Sorry, bad joke... But seriously, I'm nowhere near tech-savvy enough to risk trying that!)
NeoDoug112 m ago

I'm with EE, but my phone was bought from a Samsung Experience Store (back …I'm with EE, but my phone was bought from a Samsung Experience Store (back when it was part of Carphone Warehouse), so is network unlocked...As for downloading ROMs with Odin, I've seen all the Thor films - will that help? (Sorry, bad joke... But seriously, I'm nowhere near tech-savvy enough to risk trying that!)


So out of curiosty, what happens when you select the "manually check for updates" option which should be at the top of the updates page? Each Samsung phone I've had since the Galaxy S 5 seemed to require some fiddling about in terms of actually activating the automatic retrieval of updates, even the GS9+ I'm using today.

I'd check that first if I were you, just press it and see what happens.

If it says you don't need an update then take a screenshot of the phone's details which you'll find under the main menu About Phone > Software Information. If you do that, make sure the Baseband and Security information are visible and post it here.
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@dkl_uk Here's the info...

33635552-TVfpB.jpg33635552-shOnf.jpgAny help would be much appreciated!
NeoDoug16 h, 0 m ago

@dkl_uk Here's the info...[Image] [Image] Any help would be much …@dkl_uk Here's the info...[Image] [Image] Any help would be much appreciated!


At the bottom of this list is your firmware. At the top of this list is the current firmware. As you can see, there's been a fair few in-between.

If you're not tech savvy then my only recommendation is to download the Samsung firmware updater to your PC and see how that goes.

More advanced users can browse to this page and directly download the newest ROM, but it needs to be installed via Odin and the phone needs to be put into "Download mode". You'll also lose all of your data unless it's been backed up to the cloud/an external SD card.
dkl_uk1 h, 27 m ago

At the bottom of this list is your firmware. At the top of this list is …At the bottom of this list is your firmware. At the top of this list is the current firmware. As you can see, there's been a fair few in-between.If you're not tech savvy then my only recommendation is to download the Samsung firmware updater to your PC and see how that goes.More advanced users can browse to this page and directly download the newest ROM, but it needs to be installed via Odin and the phone needs to be put into "Download mode". You'll also lose all of your data unless it's been backed up to the cloud/an external SD card.


I've already tried the Smart Switch app on my pc, and even that says there's no updates available...

I really don't want to do it, but I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and completely reset my phone... Maybe then I'll get the updates... 😞
NeoDoug19 m ago

I've already tried the Smart Switch app on my pc, and even that says …I've already tried the Smart Switch app on my pc, and even that says there's no updates available...I really don't want to do it, but I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and completely reset my phone... Maybe then I'll get the updates... 😞


It's more likely you've got the wrong CSC installed. I am far from an expert on this but I have spent the last 15 years flashing phones and I genuinely think this issue would be fixed by forcing a 'BTU' variant of the Firmware into your phone, with the correct CSC so it knows you're a UK user and "not locked to a network" which is the BTU part of it.

To do this you'd download Odin v3 and the newest firmware; you can sign up for an account at SamMobile but currently the free download servers are offline. Then, you just need to read about putting your phone into download mode, plug the USB cable into the PC and phone, wait for Odin to detect a phone and submit the new Firmware to it.

It's not hard, it's certainly not easy, but it's doable.
dkl_uk4 h, 14 m ago

It's more likely you've got the wrong CSC installed. I am far from an …It's more likely you've got the wrong CSC installed. I am far from an expert on this but I have spent the last 15 years flashing phones and I genuinely think this issue would be fixed by forcing a 'BTU' variant of the Firmware into your phone, with the correct CSC so it knows you're a UK user and "not locked to a network" which is the BTU part of it.To do this you'd download Odin v3 and the newest firmware; you can sign up for an account at SamMobile but currently the free download servers are offline. Then, you just need to read about putting your phone into download mode, plug the USB cable into the PC and phone, wait for Odin to detect a phone and submit the new Firmware to it.It's not hard, it's certainly not easy, but it's doable.


If I don't do this, but just do a factory reset, will that solve the problem? I'm pretty nervous about bricking my phone!
I doubt it but you can always try. Your apps, contacts etc should be backup up to the Google cloud and you can always download a backup utility for the rest. Just make sure you put the backup file to external SD.

If it's an issue with the CSC then basically it needs changing. I don't know whether this can be done on the fly, I think it can as it's only information pertinent to the country of operation.

If you download a full Firmware and use Odin there's safeguards to stop you bricking the phone. You can only properly wreck it if you explicitly demand a new PIT file is used to format the phone, and it's a tick box, so you simply leave it unticked. I inadvertently tried to flash a GS5 ROM to GS3 and the worst of it was the phone wouldn't boot. One new ROM later and it was working again.
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