SONOFF Touch WiFi Panel Wireless Remote Control Wall Timing Switch £7.04  / SONOFF 4CH Rev2 4 Channel Wireless WiFi Smart Switch £12.32 @ RoseGal​
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SONOFF Touch WiFi Panel Wireless Remote Control Wall Timing Switch £7.04 / SONOFF 4CH Rev2 4 Channel Wireless WiFi Smart Switch £12.32 @ RoseGal​

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Refreshed 18th May (Posted 14th May)
Cheapest price for this at the moment. Fancy looking WiFi switch, allowing you to remotely control any panel operated item, for example light switches in your home.

Use code 'DSRGMAY18' at checkout to receive discount.

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● The SONOFF Touch is a one way WiFi wall touch switch
● It can be paired with iOS / Android APP via WiFi, lets you to remotely turn on / off the led and light from anywhere at any time
● Compatibility: living room, kitchen, bedroom, study, washroom, courtyard
● Material: synthetic, plastics
● It's LED backlight lets you easily find and turn on the switch at night
● Function: remote ON / OFF, scheduled / countdown timing, one-key sharing, group / scene management

Note: the download method of APP were specified on instruction

Brand: SONOFF
Type ( Access Control ): Access Control Switch
Feature: Touch Screen
Compatible OS: Android,IOS
Product weight: 0.0870 kg
Package weight: 0.1160 kg
Package size (L x W x H): 12.80 x 9.20 x 3.70 cm / 5.04 x 3.62 x 1.46 inches
Package Contents: 1 x Smart Switch, 1 x English / Chinese Instruction




SONOFF 4CH Rev2 4 Channel Wireless WiFi Smart Switch - White £12.32 w/ code DSRGMAY28

Use code DSRGMAY28 to get for £12.32 delivered


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SONOFF 4CH Rev2 4 gang WiFi smart switch, you can remotely turn on / off from anywhere at any time by APP "eWeLink", set single / repeat / countdown timing schedules to turn on / off at a specified time, share to others so that they can control together.


  • Turn on / off 4 home appliances remotely
  • Device status's synchronously display
  • Scheduled / countdown timers
  • Share control
  • Support setting power on status
  • Work with Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant
  • Work with IFTTT



Brand:
SONOFF
Type ( Access Control ): Access Control Switch
Product weight: 0.1830 kg
Package weight: 0.2010 kg
Product size (L x W x H): 14.50 x 9.00 x 3.50 cm / 5.71 x 3.54 x 1.38 inches
Package size (L x W x H): 14.60 x 9.50 x 4.50 cm / 5.75 x 3.74 x 1.77 inches
Package Contents: 1 x Smart Switch, 1 x English User Manual
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Hot deal! Unfortunately this requires a neutral wire at the light switch which my house doesn't have . Voted hot
A "live only" version isn't really going to happen. You've got no circuit without a neutral and therefore can't power the device. It would need a battery but it wouldn't last long supplying a WiFi adapter.
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Just wondering how the wiring is to replace exiting switch. Live only or live and neutral required?
How much is the uk version of this switch?
Hot deal! Unfortunately this requires a neutral wire at the light switch which my house doesn't have . Voted hot
And if the WiFi is not working, I'm assuming the lights can still be controlled from the wall?

If so great but like above poster said, is it uk compatible?
timscott381 m ago

Hot deal! Unfortunately this requires a neutral wire at the light switch …Hot deal! Unfortunately this requires a neutral wire at the light switch which my house doesn't have . Voted hot


Damn. We need to start seeing these with live only as per majority of wiring in this country.
EN1GMA5 m ago

Damn. We need to start seeing these with live only as per majority of …Damn. We need to start seeing these with live only as per majority of wiring in this country.


There are some similar ones that are controlled with RF remotes that are live only. You can then control them over WiFi using an RM Pro or similar. I've never seen a WiFi one that is live only, I guess the WiFi chips require the neutral line.
Works fab with wifi toilet seat
Sonoff T1 switch by the looks of it. Uk version sold by banggood has the one light switch and the two light switch models for a good price and you can pay about £1.40 for priority 4-9 working days delivery. Should in total be low enough to not qualify for vat/duty even if checked at the border
Edited by: "androidavis" 14th May
You need a neutral for these to work, I bought a 3-gang UK T1 switch from banggood and it's decent. I had a neutral behind my existing switch but if you don't have one may be hard to wire one in. Yes you can operate them using the touch sensitive panel when WiFi is disconnected and works well with Alexa too where you can conrol the switches independantly of one another.

Just checked the link and I can only see EU or US version, I don't think either of these work over here, I had to buy a UK version.
Edited by: "Evilsatan" 14th May
androidavis5 m ago

Sonoff T1 switch by the looks of it. Uk version sold by banggood has the …Sonoff T1 switch by the looks of it. Uk version sold by banggood has the one light switch and the two light switch models for a good price and you can pay about £1.40 for priority 4-9 working days delivery. Should in total be low enough to not qualify for vat/duty even if checked at the border


UK version meaning? With live only or do these come in live+neutral only?
androidavis6 m ago

Sonoff T1 switch by the looks of it. Uk version sold by banggood has the …Sonoff T1 switch by the looks of it. Uk version sold by banggood has the one light switch and the two light switch models for a good price and you can pay about £1.40 for priority 4-9 working days delivery. Should in total be low enough to not qualify for vat/duty even if checked at the border


You got a link to the UK version on bg? Please
EN1GMA3 m ago

UK version meaning? With live only or do these come in live+neutral only?



EN1GMA2 m ago

You got a link to the UK version on bg? Please


Take a look here, UK version has neutral too:
banggood.com/SON…rch
A "live only" version isn't really going to happen. You've got no circuit without a neutral and therefore can't power the device. It would need a battery but it wouldn't last long supplying a WiFi adapter.
Requires a neutral so if your light switch is live only like most houses in UK built within the last 20-30 years this will NOT work
Ah OK. Need a UK compatible live only version if one exists. At similar price. Not even sure if it's possible with live only though I'm sure xiaomi have a live only version but that's at 20+ quid
How would you add a neutral to existing switch socket? So I can explain to the electrician what I want to achieve. Can it even be done, switch by switch?
Only other cheap alternative smart switch is the UK live wire xiaomi zigbee switch
But that one requires a Hub (SST or Aqara)
Currently selling at £18-£20 on AliExpress
mahmouddiaa7 m ago

Only other cheap alternative smart switch is the UK live wire xiaomi …Only other cheap alternative smart switch is the UK live wire xiaomi zigbee switch But that one requires a Hub (SST or Aqara) Currently selling at £18-£20 on AliExpress


I've got the xiaomi hub, door sensors and motion sensors so don't mind the xiaomi switch if cheap enough. The hub connects to a wall switch hence I don't mind plus acts as a door bell and night light.
mahmouddiaa9 m ago

Only other cheap alternative smart switch is the UK live wire xiaomi …Only other cheap alternative smart switch is the UK live wire xiaomi zigbee switch But that one requires a Hub (SST or Aqara) Currently selling at £18-£20 on AliExpress


I'm into the xiaomi home automation as its cheap to set up. Got some yeelights, hub, door and motion sensors.

Because it works via the hub that's why they could do it in the live only version?
mahmouddiaa13 m ago

Only other cheap alternative smart switch is the UK live wire xiaomi …Only other cheap alternative smart switch is the UK live wire xiaomi zigbee switch But that one requires a Hub (SST or Aqara) Currently selling at £18-£20 on AliExpress


You got a link to the switch please?
EN1GMA6 m ago

I'm into the xiaomi home automation as its cheap to set up. Got some …I'm into the xiaomi home automation as its cheap to set up. Got some yeelights, hub, door and motion sensors.Because it works via the hub that's why they could do it in the live only version?


Yeah it can work with just the little energy “leaking” leaking from the live wire and is limited to <800 w drain

s.aliexpress.com/2aI…IVB
ro53ben26 m ago

A "live only" version isn't really going to happen. You've got no circuit …A "live only" version isn't really going to happen. You've got no circuit without a neutral and therefore can't power the device. It would need a battery but it wouldn't last long supplying a WiFi adapter.


Live only ‘switches’ work by dimming the lamps to a level low enough that there is no visible light emitted but there is still power flowing through the circuit so the ‘switch’ will work. The live only ones usually use zigbee or some other low power transmission as WiFi is to power hungry and that’s why you’ll only find live and neutral versions.
ro53ben31 m ago

A "live only" version isn't really going to happen. You've got no circuit …A "live only" version isn't really going to happen. You've got no circuit without a neutral and therefore can't power the device. It would need a battery but it wouldn't last long supplying a WiFi adapter.


Not strictly true, you won't get wifi ones without neutral as they need to much power. There are low power ones available like zwave which trickle a tiny amount of power through all the time, enough to power the switch but not enough for the lights to be visibly on. That's the way the IR dimmers that have been available for decades work too.
mahmouddiaa9 m ago

Yeah it can work with just the little energy “leaking” leaking from the liv …Yeah it can work with just the little energy “leaking” leaking from the live wire and is limited to <800 w drain http://s.aliexpress.com/2aIz2IVB


Thanks for the link. You know anyone that has them? So these definitely do not need neutral connection? Should be a straight swap, right?
Thanks - ordered a couple (you can reuse the code)
EN1GMA17 m ago

Thanks for the link. You know anyone that has them? So these definitely do …Thanks for the link. You know anyone that has them? So these definitely do not need neutral connection? Should be a straight swap, right?


I have one without neutral wired in. Father in law fitted it and was puzzled as to why the instruction stated it wouldnt work without. Not had an issue with it and works as it should.
markfowler9992 m ago

I have one without neutral wired in. Father in law fitted it and was …I have one without neutral wired in. Father in law fitted it and was puzzled as to why the instruction stated it wouldnt work without. Not had an issue with it and works as it should.


Which one? Sonoff or the xiaomi ones?

If sonoff then you have access to the lights on/off via the wall and WiFi?

If so, any chance you could pick the Brains of your father in law to explain how he's done it please?

Ta
If I did fit the sonoff one without the neutral, what would happen? Just they would work from the wall without WiFi or is it a genuine safety hazard?

Id get a electrician to do it obviously but like to know anyway.
mahmouddiaa1 h, 15 m ago

Requires a neutral so if your light switch is live only like most houses …Requires a neutral so if your light switch is live only like most houses in UK built within the last 20-30 years this will NOT work


Modern houses are more likely to have neutral and live available at the switch than older ones. It's worth checking though, I got lucky with my flat and that's 15 years old.
BubaMan33 m ago

Thanks - ordered a couple (you can reuse the code)


Did you get the EU model? I just took a look and they seem to have the same inputs, voltage rating and dimensions to the UK model so can't see why they wouldn't work but wasn't sure why they had two versions. The rear of the UK and EU ones do differ in shape and design with the EU ones looking deeper so perhaps that's it and you have enough depth behind your switch already.
EN1GMA25 m ago

If I did fit the sonoff one without the neutral, what would happen? Just …If I did fit the sonoff one without the neutral, what would happen? Just they would work from the wall without WiFi or is it a genuine safety hazard?Id get a electrician to do it obviously but like to know anyway.


To be clear you're asking what happens if you fit a sonoff switch that requires live and neutral, but only hook up live?

The entire switch would not work. It's a microcontroller (which needs live and neutral to generate ~5V) reading the state of the touch sensor at the front and switching a relay in the back. If the microcontroller can't run it won't do any switching at all. It also won't connect to wifi. It's not a safety hazard because it will not switch on.

Source: Me. I hooked up a 2-gang one to my bathroom lights and heated towel rail, best idea ever but I'm an amateur electrician at best so there was plenty of trial and error.
If switch needs power then it will need a return to ground, this is usually done via a neutral in circuit and there wouldn't be a way round this - electrician would need to run a 3 core and earth cable or a double insulated singles cable from nearest light to switch. As far as I can tell, it doesn't appear that these have been tested to meet safety standards, could be perfectly safe but I wouldn't fancy them with children in the house without confirmation of this.
CampGareth6 m ago

To be clear you're asking what happens if you fit a sonoff switch that …To be clear you're asking what happens if you fit a sonoff switch that requires live and neutral, but only hook up live?The entire switch would not work. It's a microcontroller (which needs live and neutral to generate ~5V) reading the state of the touch sensor at the front and switching a relay in the back. If the microcontroller can't run it won't do any switching at all. It also won't connect to wifi. It's not a safety hazard because it will not switch on.Source: Me. I hooked up a 2-gang one to my bathroom lights and heated towel rail, best idea ever but I'm an amateur electrician at best so there was plenty of trial and error.


Thanks for the explanation. Yeah, not setting my house on fire is a good start

Damn shame these needs LnN as the xiaomi live only ones just come nowhere near this price unfortunately.
Sy5con3 m ago

If switch needs power then it will need a return to ground, this is …If switch needs power then it will need a return to ground, this is usually done via a neutral in circuit and there wouldn't be a way round this - electrician would need to run a 3 core and earth cable or a double insulated singles cable from nearest light to switch. As far as I can tell, it doesn't appear that these have been tested to meet safety standards, could be perfectly safe but I wouldn't fancy them with children in the house without confirmation of this.


This has 5V with a hint of live going through the microcontroller side, but then you're separated from all that by a glass plate. Not sure there's a need for ground if you can't touch any conductive part of the device. Personally though I feel more comfortable around it than my last all-metal bathroom switch.
Are these compatable to dim the lights?
CampGareth12 m ago

This has 5V with a hint of live going through the microcontroller side, …This has 5V with a hint of live going through the microcontroller side, but then you're separated from all that by a glass plate. Not sure there's a need for ground if you can't touch any conductive part of the device. Personally though I feel more comfortable around it than my last all-metal bathroom switch.


ground/neutral are common back at substation I was confirming circuit needs a return path to ground to operate an electrical device which in domestic property is the neutral.
EN1GMA1 h, 9 m ago

Thanks for the link. You know anyone that has them? So these definitely do …Thanks for the link. You know anyone that has them? So these definitely do not need neutral connection? Should be a straight swap, right?


Should be
I only found 2 sellers on Aliexpress selling those and there is some feedback there
The link to the other one
s.aliexpress.com/vEZ…Z7r

It is available on Banggood and GearBest but more expensive
With feedback as well
But I am still building my Sst stuff and maybe doing a rewire soon in my house while renovating so might just add ground wires to all switches
So adding neutral wiring to current live set up should be a easy job for a qualified electrician?
Evilsatan1 h, 8 m ago

Did you get the EU model? I just took a look and they seem to have the …Did you get the EU model? I just took a look and they seem to have the same inputs, voltage rating and dimensions to the UK model so can't see why they wouldn't work but wasn't sure why they had two versions. The rear of the UK and EU ones do differ in shape and design with the EU ones looking deeper so perhaps that's it and you have enough depth behind your switch already.


There's no UK model and the main difference on the US one looks to be the width of the panel (I went with the EU model).
There's some reviews and pics on Amazon if you want a bit more info but they do need a neutral wire and it does look like they'll need a fair amount of depth in your wall.

I have a few other SONOFF devices (5x mains blocks and a 15A in-line switch I use for my immersion boiler) which I've mostly been happy with, considering their low prices.
The app could be better and they could do with a "boost mode" (turn off X mins after being switched on) but they work well with Alexa / Google Home.
Edited by: "BubaMan" 14th May
EN1GMA25 m ago

So adding neutral wiring to current live set up should be a easy job for a …So adding neutral wiring to current live set up should be a easy job for a qualified electrician?



No. It usually requires running another wire (neutral) and is is physically difficult and visually messy.
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