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Found 17th Dec 2017
Sonos one 20quid cheaper. Can be found in curry’s as well for the same price
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It's my understanding that Sonos's intention is to eventually offer their own voice activated smart speaker system that does away with Amazon Alexa completely. In the meantime they understand that they have to work with Amazon. For that reason the Sonos we see in the marketplace today will never be what it should be. Why would Amazon co-operate when they know eventually they will be dumped, and every Sonos sale is the loss of an Echo sale.

Sonos are pretty much expecting customers to buy a beta version with the promise of updates. These updates will come, but it doesn't convince me to part with my cash.
I think this is a good product ....as long as it can do everything that Alexa offers with the added bonus of a decent speaker.

i would buy
Looks good to me. Hope they do a Google version at some point as I'm currently favouring that route for the query intelligence
SleepyChris5 m ago

Looks good to me. Hope they do a Google version at some point as I'm …Looks good to me. Hope they do a Google version at some point as I'm currently favouring that route for the query intelligence


The Sonos one is meant to have Google home integration in the new year
SleepyChris5 m ago

Looks good to me. Hope they do a Google version at some point as I'm …Looks good to me. Hope they do a Google version at some point as I'm currently favouring that route for the query intelligence




Read my first post. I spoke at length to a Sonos expert with 20 years experience. £179.10 and hope doesn't make sense to me.
Edited by: "OllieSt" 17th Dec 2017
OllieSt21 m ago

Read my first post. I spoke at length to a Sonos expert with 20 years …Read my first post. I spoke at length to a Sonos expert with 20 years experience. £179.10 and hope doesn't make sense to me.


I did read it, but I think I misunderstood...I agree it is a bit of a risk...but if Amazon were to do this to me they would lose me from their home assistant business completely and hence lose me from a major tie into their ecosystem. Maybe that will be a factor. I guess you'd be left with a decent Sonos if they did disenfranchise us. Do Sonos really have the R&D capability to compete with Google and Amazon? Google already do an assistant with decent sound quality don't they? It's a bit of an obvious Omission to not have decent sound from a device that can stream music. Some people want a stand alone device and not to have to switch their sound system on. But maybe you're right maybe they'll do an Epson and upset their entire customer Base by, instead of, sneaky software updates, not updating it at all.
Edited by: "SleepyChris" 17th Dec 2017
djdope23 m ago

The Sonos one is meant to have Google home integration in the new year


GOod news. Thanks
Does anyone else's app auto capitslise the first 2 letters? Annoying. Using SwiftKey on iphone
SleepyChris23 m ago

I did read it, but I think I misunderstood...I agree it is a bit of a …I did read it, but I think I misunderstood...I agree it is a bit of a risk...but if Amazon were to do this to me they would lose me from their home assistant business completely and hence lose me from a major tie into their ecosystem. Maybe that will be a factor. I guess you'd be left with a decent Sonos if they did disenfranchise us. Do Sonos really have the R&D capability to compete with Google and Amazon? Google already do an assistant with decent sound quality don't they? It's a bit of an obvious Omission to not have decent sound from a device that can stream music. Some people want a stand alone device and not to have to switch their sound system on. But maybe you're right maybe they'll do an Epson and upset their entire customer Base by, instead of, sneaky software updates, not updating it at all.


I concur. I got one person's opinion, but he seemingly knew his stuff. He's convinced that Sonos will go it alone and that Amazon are fully aware of this. All I know is that as we speak the Sonos doesn't do what I want it to do which is to act in conjunction with an Echo dot to behave as a quality replacement for an Amazon Echo plus. I can't buy into promises @ £150 a pop (Sonos play), and I do believe, contrary to popular belief, that the play will be discontinued. It just stands to reason. It's all very frustrating.
Edited by: "OllieSt" 17th Dec 2017
It took sonos well over a year to bring out a half baked integration of Alexa, and yet people think they are capable of bringing their own voice system to market any time soon?
Really?

They haven't even worked out how to make the mature Alexa work properly yet.

I have a sonos 3 I sat on for 13 months in the expectation of Alexa integration, and here we are, with a partially functional method, still in beta.

Buy this knowing what it does, and *doesn't* do.
bilbob10 m ago

It took sonos well over a year to bring out a half baked integration of …It took sonos well over a year to bring out a half baked integration of Alexa, and yet people think they are capable of bringing their own voice system to market any time soon? Really?They haven't even worked out how to make the mature Alexa work properly yet.I have a sonos 3 I sat on for 13 months in the expectation of Alexa integration, and here we are, with a partially functional method, still in beta.Buy this knowing what it does, and *doesn't* do.


I think it's going to have an element of Amazon's unwillingness. I think for Sonos to really get on board they do need to consider going it alone. Their sound is right up there, and playing poor cousin will hold them back. It makes no real business sense for Amazon to go the extra mile. The solution for consumers would be Amazon purchasing Sonos. Over night all current problems would disappear, but rest assured new ones would occur (the amazing Sonos long term support for their products springs to mind).
Edited by: "OllieSt" 17th Dec 2017
OllieSt3 m ago

I think it's going to have an element of Amazon's unwillingness. I think …I think it's going to have an element of Amazon's unwillingness. I think for Sonos to really get on board they do need to consider going it alone. Their sound is right up their, and playing poor cousin will hold them back. It makes no real business sense for Amazon to go the extra mile. The solution for consumers would be Amazon purchasing Sonos. Over night all current problems would disappear, but rest assured new ones would occur (the amazing songs long term support for their products springs to mind).


I think I'm pretty safe in saying Sonos won't be making their own voice assistant. The investment in time, knowledge and sheer money isn't possible for them, people that think they can, I really don't think htye understand the technical requirements of such things. The AI research that has gone on to make these things work is incredible.
If sonos DO make one tagged as their own, it will DEFINITELY have someone elses tech in it.
But I agree, if Amazon bought them it would probably be good for both, particularly given the incoming apple gear, but Amazon might well be happy providing their tech to others, like MS do.
bilbob13 m ago

It took sonos well over a year to bring out a half baked integration of …It took sonos well over a year to bring out a half baked integration of Alexa, and yet people think they are capable of bringing their own voice system to market any time soon? Really?They haven't even worked out how to make the mature Alexa work properly yet.I have a sonos 3 I sat on for 13 months in the expectation of Alexa integration, and here we are, with a partially functional method, still in beta.Buy this knowing what it does, and *doesn't* do.


The latest update (this week) allows you to change volume of each individual speaker within a group, prior to this it only adjusted the whole group.Spotify intergration is now very good.
In my opinion it does everything I’d want of it right now with the exception of splitting/adding speakers to groups.
bilbob4 m ago

I think I'm pretty safe in saying Sonos won't be making their own voice …I think I'm pretty safe in saying Sonos won't be making their own voice assistant. The investment in time, knowledge and sheer money isn't possible for them, people that think they can, I really don't think htye understand the technical requirements of such things. The AI research that has gone on to make these things work is incredible. If sonos DO make one tagged as their own, it will DEFINITELY have someone elses tech in it.But I agree, if Amazon bought them it would probably be good for both, particularly given the incoming apple gear, but Amazon might well be happy providing their tech to others, like MS do.


It's a mess.
rporteo5 m ago

The latest update (this week) allows you to change volume of each …The latest update (this week) allows you to change volume of each individual speaker within a group, prior to this it only adjusted the whole group.Spotify intergration is now very good.In my opinion it does everything I’d want of it right now with the exception of splitting/adding speakers to groups.


Sonos doesn't support Audible, whereas it used to. More promises.

It's just not good enough at the price point per speaker when it advertises as Echo compatable.

I want 4 Sonos Ones, am I expected to pay up front for something that should exist and may do in the future? I'm not alone on this
Edited by: "OllieSt" 17th Dec 2017
OllieSt1 m ago

Sonos doesn't support Audible, whereas it used to. More promises.


Which I don’t use, that’s why I said it does what I need of it.
rporteo4 m ago

Which I don’t use, that’s why I said it does what I need of it.

I understand that, but at the price point and the sales pitch of Echo compatibility, Sonos are missing a trick here. Hence for me, it's beta
Edited by: "OllieSt" 17th Dec 2017
OllieSt4 m ago

I understand that, but at the price point and the sales pitch of Echo …I understand that, but at the price point and the sales pitch of Echo compatibility, Sonos are missing a trick here. Hence for me, it's beta


Does audible work fine with just an echo?
rporteo3 h, 26 m ago

Does audible work fine with just an echo?


Yes 100%. To the extent you can be 30 mins into one book, 2 hours in to another etc and switch between the 2. You can go back a chapter, fast forward. It's perfect.
this was posted before, the black one and was voted hot, now this is cold... this community
bilbob17th Dec

I think I'm pretty safe in saying Sonos won't be making their own voice …I think I'm pretty safe in saying Sonos won't be making their own voice assistant. The investment in time, knowledge and sheer money isn't possible for them, people that think they can, I really don't think htye understand the technical requirements of such things. The AI research that has gone on to make these things work is incredible. If sonos DO make one tagged as their own, it will DEFINITELY have someone elses tech in it.But I agree, if Amazon bought them it would probably be good for both, particularly given the incoming apple gear, but Amazon might well be happy providing their tech to others, like MS do.


Agreed.

I cant imagine Sonos entering a market where Amazon and Google are making significant investments (to be joined by Apple shorty) to compete. Especially when you consider that each of those companies have other significant benefits to gain.

The best option they have is to join forces.... which is what they are doing as a win/win
OllieSt17th Dec

It's my understanding that Sonos's intention is to eventually offer their …It's my understanding that Sonos's intention is to eventually offer their own voice activated smart speaker system that does away with Amazon Alexa completely. In the meantime they understand that they have to work with Amazon. For that reason the Sonos we see in the marketplace today will never be what it should be. Why would Amazon co-operate when they know eventually they will be dumped, and every Sonos sale is the loss of an Echo sale. Sonos are pretty much expecting customers to buy a beta version with the promise of updates. These updates will come, but it doesn't convince me to part with my cash.


I’m sorry but this is a load of nonsense and pure speculation. There is nothing to suggest that Sonos are going to develop their own personal assistant and I’m not sure they would have reason too. Integrating with Alexa, Google assistant and adding Apple airplay 2 support would suggest they are trying to be the all in one solution letting the consumer decide what service to use.

Sonos have a history of promising things in the future and they tend to deliver but it’s normally delayed. If I was looking at these I would consider what it can do today and what has specifically been promised. If what I would like isn’t included in those two groups then don’t buy it assuming they will change plans. I have Apple Music. The Alexa integration for Apple Music is basically non existent and they haven’t made a firm commitment on adding anything so I’m not buying one for now. If I was using Spotify then it would be a different story.

Also your suggestion that this product will be abandoned goes against the evidence from every speaker that Sonos has ever made. They all work today and everyone has had features added since first released.
snowlucas1 h, 53 m ago

I’m sorry but this is a load of nonsense and pure speculation.


I got my info from a guy that has a 20 year association with Sonos.

snowlucas1 h, 53 m ago

Integrating with Alexa, Google assistant and adding Apple airplay 2 …Integrating with Alexa, Google assistant and adding Apple airplay 2 support would suggest they are trying to be the all in one solution letting the consumer decide what service to use.



Do you think trying to integrate with all and sundry makes Sonos a 'jack of all trades, and master of none'? I do, and it's not a figure of speech one would associate with Sonos over the past 15 years.

It can't just be that if you want Sonos you have to compromise further. Their sound quality is already a compromise, but a worthwhile one for the sake of convenience around the home. In Dec 2017 Sonos are expecting customers to make a further compromise on convenience/services and personally I think their sales will suffer.

In any case, you and me both won't buy for 2 different reasons, and it doesn't seem to be price.
what other streaming speakers are there that are more future proof? better?
OllieSt17th Dec

I understand that, but at the price point and the sales pitch of Echo …I understand that, but at the price point and the sales pitch of Echo compatibility, Sonos are missing a trick here. Hence for me, it's beta


Quoted you Olliest just to get your attention, as you come across and clued up on the operating side of alexa and sonos, sorry.
Also if any body else can chip in I'd be appreciative.

Sorry to jump on this thread guys but I need a little help.

I have an echo and want to buy some speakers to service my house. I'm not rich so I'm only after 3 play 1 speakers. If I put 1 in bedroom 1 in front room and 1 in dining room can alexa differentiate between the 3 when I ask her to play on any particular speaker? Can I also prompt her to play out of all 3 at once?
If I have another echo (1 in front room, 1 in bedroom) will the 2nd one also be able to control the speakers as I wish the 1st to?
Last ?, in your opinion do you think that updates to play 1 will cease before it is perfected to link with echo and leave me with expensive speakers that I have paid for that only impress my mates by there sound quality and not the fact that I can operate these via voice (stupid I know but the way this voice controlled tech is advancing really impresses me)
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, I just like to listen to good music, loud and with great quality.

I don't ask much
OllieSt18th Dec

I got my info from a guy that has a 20 year association with Sonos. Do …I got my info from a guy that has a 20 year association with Sonos. Do you think trying to integrate with all and sundry makes Sonos a 'jack of all trades, and master of none'? I do, and it's not a figure of speech one would associate with Sonos over the past 15 years.It can't just be that if you want Sonos you have to compromise further. Their sound quality is already a compromise, but a worthwhile one for the sake of convenience around the home. In Dec 2017 Sonos are expecting customers to make a further compromise on convenience/services and personally I think their sales will suffer. In any case, you and me both won't buy for 2 different reasons, and it doesn't seem to be price.


Sonos hasn't existed for 20 years so your guy was talking rubbish! Who processes the voice commands is largely irrelevant. Amazon and Google want you to use their services and they have no incentive to make their hardware hook up to rivals. They provide a voice service to drive usage of their other services. Sonos sell hardware so have no reason to create their own voice system. They just need to integrate with content providers while Google/Amazon fight amongst themselves. Supporting lots of music sources doesn't mean you comprise on anything. The limitations of the Echo doesn't make it better. They are a deliberate commercial decision and the Echo would be instantly better if it supported more sources.

But the general rule is never buy hardware (from anyone) on the promise of new features. These days we are lucky if "smart" features carry on working after a few years!
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