Sonos one smart speaker with Alexa built in, John Lewis price matched - £179.99 instore - Trafford centre
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Sonos one smart speaker with Alexa built in, John Lewis price matched - £179.99 instore - Trafford centre

£179.99£199.99 10% John Lewis Deals
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Found 12th Nov
I went shopping at the Trafford centre Friday and went in to Selfridges to look at Bose speakers to be shown this new devices Sonos smart speaker at 199.99 but the sales assistant said they had a 10% off any Sonos in-store only! Ok but it's new I need to have a think so I carried on my shopping and went to John Lewis where they had a Sonos rep in :-) after ten minutes speaking about it he told me to take one to the till and try the price matched offer, so I did and they gave it me 179.99 plus it comes with 2 year warranty which makes the deal a bit better :-)2826409.jpg

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BritishDragon38 m ago

Alexa....just another nail in the privacy …Alexa....just another nail in the privacy coffinhttps://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/01/27/data-privacy-day-know-the-risks-of-amazon-alexa-and-google-home/


Rubbish.
Sorry, but if a company is CLEAR and upfront about what they are doing, and WHY, and it is necessary for functionality, it is entirely your choice.
Alexa ONLY records and sends to the cloud when it hears the trigger word. And any old recording are there for your deletion.
Google? Yes, I'm wary of them, as they cripple excessive functionality when you turn stuff off, and stretch the limits of reasonable when you DO allow things. But Amazon and MS (can't comment on Apple, I'm not involved in their 'sphere') I'm cool with. They're clear.

slacker1 h, 10 m ago

You do know that computers can do that, right?Not saying that Amazon are …You do know that computers can do that, right?Not saying that Amazon are though. The point is that putting microphones around your house increases the risk that someone worse than Amazon could be listening.




Considering Alexa barely understands my commands half the time i don't think a computers going to pick up anything useful from an average conversation. But then i am Glaswegian.
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BritishDragon38 m ago

Alexa....just another nail in the privacy …Alexa....just another nail in the privacy coffinhttps://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/01/27/data-privacy-day-know-the-risks-of-amazon-alexa-and-google-home/


Rubbish.
Sorry, but if a company is CLEAR and upfront about what they are doing, and WHY, and it is necessary for functionality, it is entirely your choice.
Alexa ONLY records and sends to the cloud when it hears the trigger word. And any old recording are there for your deletion.
Google? Yes, I'm wary of them, as they cripple excessive functionality when you turn stuff off, and stretch the limits of reasonable when you DO allow things. But Amazon and MS (can't comment on Apple, I'm not involved in their 'sphere') I'm cool with. They're clear.

"Alexa ONLY records and sends to the cloud when it hears the trigger word."




I think you need to start ignoring marketing spiel & carry out your own research

BritishDragon4 h, 42 m ago

"Alexa ONLY records and sends to the cloud when it hears the trigger …"Alexa ONLY records and sends to the cloud when it hears the trigger word."I think you need to start ignoring marketing spiel & carry out your own research

If it's not always listening (recording and reviewing) how do people think it knows when you say the trigger word!

fireman116 m ago

If it's not always listening (recording and reviewing) how do people think …If it's not always listening (recording and reviewing) how do people think it knows when you say the trigger word!


Because it doesn't take much to recognise a single known trigger word I suppose so it can do that easily using local processing?

I like sonos a lot but reading between the lines, the company is struggling (they laid off staff a while back) - I have some sonos gear but I don't think I'd buy more because if they go under, the sonos is a paperweight...

Agharta51 m ago

Because it doesn't take much to recognise a single known trigger word I …Because it doesn't take much to recognise a single known trigger word I suppose so it can do that easily using local processing?


If you've read any of the Snowden leaks and genuinely believe that these products aren't listening except when you allow them then you are pretty naive.

Having said that, most of us have a microphone close enough to hear what we're saying (phone) 24/7 so I'm not sure that another microphone adds any more risk.

As somebody else said earlier though I really don't trust Google's use of any data/information gathered from their products.
Edited by: "slacker" 12th Nov

Agharta1 h, 4 m ago

Because it doesn't take much to recognise a single known trigger word I …Because it doesn't take much to recognise a single known trigger word I suppose so it can do that easily using local processing?

I'm sure some people believe amazon have actually employed 1/2 a bilion people in a large warehouse somewhere listening in to everything like at Bletchley... Its ridiculous.

silly_entz10 m ago

I'm sure some people believe amazon have actually employed 1/2 a bilion …I'm sure some people believe amazon have actually employed 1/2 a bilion people in a large warehouse somewhere listening in to everything like at Bletchley... Its ridiculous.


You do know that computers can do that, right?

Not saying that Amazon are though. The point is that putting microphones around your house increases the risk that someone worse than Amazon could be listening.
Edited by: "slacker" 12th Nov

slacker1 h, 10 m ago

You do know that computers can do that, right?Not saying that Amazon are …You do know that computers can do that, right?Not saying that Amazon are though. The point is that putting microphones around your house increases the risk that someone worse than Amazon could be listening.




Considering Alexa barely understands my commands half the time i don't think a computers going to pick up anything useful from an average conversation. But then i am Glaswegian.

TommyNooka1 h, 24 m ago

Considering Alexa barely understands my commands half the time i don't …Considering Alexa barely understands my commands half the time i don't think a computers going to pick up anything useful from an average conversation. But then i am Glaswegian.


Alexa and me both Gonnae no.
Edited by: "MyPetFrog" 12th Nov

slacker2 h, 54 m ago

You do know that computers can do that, right?Not saying that Amazon are …You do know that computers can do that, right?Not saying that Amazon are though. The point is that putting microphones around your house increases the risk that someone worse than Amazon could be listening.


Well, if some of the material from WikiLeaks is anything to go by, the NSA as well as other intelligence agencies are already listening to 'Persons of Interest' through remote activation of cellphone microphones. They're the most ubiquitous microphones we have, always switched on and usually kept near us at all times.

And I'd be much more wary of Google - who use our information for almost any purpose they wish -than Amazon. The problem is I definitely can't live without Google and I guess I'm almost equally reliant on Amazon for cut-price shopping and entertainment.

hcc273 h, 45 m ago

Well, if some of the material from WikiLeaks is anything to go by, the NSA …Well, if some of the material from WikiLeaks is anything to go by, the NSA as well as other intelligence agencies are already listening to 'Persons of Interest' through remote activation of cellphone microphones. They're the most ubiquitous microphones we have, always switched on and usually kept near us at all times. And I'd be much more wary of Google - who use our information for almost any purpose they wish -than Amazon. The problem is I definitely can't live without Google and I guess I'm almost equally reliant on Amazon for cut-price shopping and entertainment.


Exactly. Our houses are filled with microphones in all sorts of things days from tv's to remotes. If the NSA or GCHQ need to listen in, they already can (and have been proven to do from the leaks). So it's silly to be afraid of voice assistants. However voice assistants will make it easier for civilian hackers to listen in.

Beware that if you buy this new unit you cannot create a stereo pair with an existing play 1, very disappointing from sonos

Original Poster

The thing is I want a set up where the sound is amazing, if I wasn't to go with this speaker what is the next best thing? In this price rsnge.
Also I have a dot and a sound bar in my living room is there anyway of getting a speaker that does good music and good sound for the TV in one (if that makes sense)
I do like the idea of speakers in each room but at nearly 200 each would be £££££

To all those that insist that nefarious actors are listening in to what you had for tea last night, and there's no way you can ever tell...
Do you know how internet traffic works? It's the electronic equivalent of physical traffic. It isn't possible to move data without it being visible in some manner.
Even IF Amazon were working with NSA/MI5/Wombles then the data would still be need to be sent to them to be heard. You can monitor the traffic movements on your own network (or others, but that's another story), if the things were constantly streaming data, then the white hats would know about it, and a turd storm would follow.

And again, this listening allows the functionality. If you don't want the functionality, then don't buy the things. It's not being forced ion you, and you can't have the functionality without the processing. It's like when Windows 10 lauched and everyone went batcrap over Cortana... It can't do its job without looking at your emails and your calendar, and your browser etc...
If you don't want it, turn it off.

Rant mode off. It's Monday morning...

If I bought 3 of these. Can I then play the same music via all 3 , so if having a party, 3 rooms could be playing the same playlist/song ?

Also, is it possible for each of them to play their own music, so if 3 of us connected our phones to 3 sonos, we could all play our own playlist ?

bilbob3 h, 59 m ago

To all those that insist that nefarious actors are listening in to what …To all those that insist that nefarious actors are listening in to what you had for tea last night, and there's no way you can ever tell...Do you know how internet traffic works? It's the electronic equivalent of physical traffic. It isn't possible to move data without it being visible in some manner.Even IF Amazon were working with NSA/MI5/Wombles then the data would still be need to be sent to them to be heard. You can monitor the traffic movements on your own network (or others, but that's another story), if the things were constantly streaming data, then the white hats would know about it, and a turd storm would follow.And again, this listening allows the functionality. If you don't want the functionality, then don't buy the things. It's not being forced ion you, and you can't have the functionality without the processing. It's like when Windows 10 lauched and everyone went batcrap over Cortana... It can't do its job without looking at your emails and your calendar, and your browser etc...If you don't want it, turn it off.Rant mode off. It's Monday morning...



Unless it was hidden among other traffic. Wouldn't take much even if there isn't a better way to hide data transfer from traffic monitoring.

No argument about the other stuff. It was the naive suggestion that the product wasn't capable of doing anything until called upon that I had an issue with.

slacker2 h, 47 m ago

Unless it was hidden among other traffic. Wouldn't take much even if …Unless it was hidden among other traffic. Wouldn't take much even if there isn't a better way to hide data transfer from traffic monitoring.No argument about the other stuff. It was the naive suggestion that the product wasn't capable of doing anything until called upon that I had an issue with.


But in normal operation, it is only sending very limited data. The 'complaint' was that it is sending everything on demand. It can't send all that without being obvious. Even encrypted packets have enough info in them to be able to take a pretty good guess as to what they contain, and how much.
Like I say, if this was really happenieng on anything like the level we are told to be scared of, we'd know.

Zzzzz every time these deals come up, the tin foil brigade appear. Why comment if you've no desire to purchase one?

Has Alexa/mics improved on these speakers yet?

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ryan28011 h, 54 m ago

Zzzzz every time these deals come up, the tin foil brigade appear. Why …Zzzzz every time these deals come up, the tin foil brigade appear. Why comment if you've no desire to purchase one?Has Alexa/mics improved on these speakers yet?


I'm speaker is amazing and I can say it's better than the dot but it should be for the price..... It response better I think. I would like the drop in function but I'm sure it be out soon? For 180 I'm glad I got this and not Bose :-)

sydney200213th Nov

If I bought 3 of these. Can I then play the same music via all 3 , so if …If I bought 3 of these. Can I then play the same music via all 3 , so if having a party, 3 rooms could be playing the same playlist/song ?Also, is it possible for each of them to play their own music, so if 3 of us connected our phones to 3 sonos, we could all play our own playlist ?


Yes I think everything you describe is possible. You can play on them individually or assign groups / play all. You can separate downstairs and upstairs for example.
(I dont own one, just what I've read)

BritishDragon12th Nov

Alexa....just another nail in the privacy …Alexa....just another nail in the privacy coffinhttps://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/01/27/data-privacy-day-know-the-risks-of-amazon-alexa-and-google-home/


It's also useless tat. Last year Sonos was nearly down to £100, now they've added a pointless voice assistant they want nearly £200?

£134 in the States just shows how much we get ripped off.
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