Sonos Play:1 x2, Playbar and Sub (Black) - 5.1 home theater speaker package £1405 @ Richersounds
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Sonos Play:1 x2, Playbar and Sub (Black) - 5.1 home theater speaker package £1405 @ Richersounds

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Found 26th Dec 2017
I have been searching for a decent deal on these speakers for a while. 1405 is the cheapest I could find so far. Please share if you have any other ways to reduce this further.
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does this have dolby atmos? the upgrade to 5.1
wakkaday5 m ago

does this have dolby atmos? the upgrade to 5.1


Nope sadly not
wakkaday39 m ago

does this have dolby atmos? the upgrade to 5.1


No but it sounds amazing
Is it that much better than the Yamaha 2700 soundbar which is £500 less
I have ageing setup 10 year old.

Acoustic energy Aegis EVO 3B speakers
Pioneer VSX D2011

I do like this smaller, less wires appeal. But not sure how much better it going to sound?
I’ve just recently started looking for this set up too.
I need the white 5.1 with sound Base though.
Amazon worked out cheapest when I added to the basket and compared.
Having never owned any Sonos I’m trying to hold off for a deal direct from Sonos in order to get the 100 day no quibble return policy incase it’s not as good as reviews suggest.
stef23215 m ago

I’ve just recently started looking for this set up too. I need the white 5 …I’ve just recently started looking for this set up too. I need the white 5.1 with sound Base though. Amazon worked out cheapest when I added to the basket and compared. Having never owned any Sonos I’m trying to hold off for a deal direct from Sonos in order to get the 100 day no quibble return policy incase it’s not as good as reviews suggest.


I’ve seen Very offer 100 day return, perhaps other retailers do
kpmatthews49 s ago

I’ve seen Very offer 100 day return, perhaps other retailers do


Ahh thanks I didn’t realise that. I’ll keep me eyes peeled.
snappyfish27 m ago

I have ageing setup 10 year old. Acoustic energy Aegis EVO 3B speakers …I have ageing setup 10 year old. Acoustic energy Aegis EVO 3B speakers Pioneer VSX D2011 I do like this smaller, less wires appeal. But not sure how much better it going to sound?


Remember you need to plug every device in. If you don't have power sockets in every corner of the room you might be trailing extensions around.

Book an appointment into richer sounds for a test if you can
alltaken12326th Dec 2017

No doubt that Sonos speakers are nice. Keep in mind however that it is …No doubt that Sonos speakers are nice. Keep in mind however that it is becoming overpriced, dare I say - poor value.Samsung have recently been praised in reviews for a couple of sound bars, developed after their Harmon kardon acquisition. AVforums for example highly praised a recent Samsung option, rating it more highly than the Sonos barI’m not seeking to anger any die hard Sonos fans, nor deter any interested folk who have done the research. Just think about the options that have developed since Sonos was on top of the pile.


Would have to agree, would not pay the £700 they are now asking for the playbar, got mine a lot cheaper from Currys a few years back with 20% off and corporate discount on top, which did make it worth while.
Wow 1500 quid for this I'm sure for the same price you could get a wired system that would blow this to bits.
Edited by: "sprite127594" 26th Dec 2017
sprite1275945 m ago

Wow 1500 quid for this I'm sure for the same price you could get a …Wow 1500 quid for this I'm sure for the same price you could get a wired system that would blow this to bits.


YES!
alltaken12326th Dec 2017

No doubt that Sonos speakers are nice. Keep in mind however that it is …No doubt that Sonos speakers are nice. Keep in mind however that it is becoming overpriced, dare I say - poor value.Samsung have recently been praised in reviews for a couple of sound bars, developed after their Harmon kardon acquisition. AVforums for example highly praised a recent Samsung option, rating it more highly than the Sonos barI’m not seeking to anger any die hard Sonos fans, nor deter any interested folk who have done the research. Just think about the options that have developed since Sonos was on top of the pile.


Have to admit, the quality of the Harmon Kardon set ups in the last two cars I've had have made me seriously look at their home set ups.
sprite12759447 m ago

Wow 1500 quid for this I'm sure for the same price you could get a …Wow 1500 quid for this I'm sure for the same price you could get a wired system that would blow this to bits.


Might wanna compare it to a wireless system perhaps. People who buy sonos don't want wires everywhere with too many speakers. This is really user friendly too. No extra remotes and boxes to change from one channel to the next. Just select a song from your phone and it plays. Turn the tv back on and the tv sound comes on. A lot of people would prefer this simplicity to the kind of set ups your talking about

That said... I think I ended up paying 1250 for this set up over a few years, would kind of expect it to go down in price not up!!!
Edited by: "chrisredmayne" 26th Dec 2017
chrisredmayne44 m ago

Might wanna compare it to a wireless system perhaps. People who buy sonos …Might wanna compare it to a wireless system perhaps. People who buy sonos don't want wires everywhere with too many speakers. This is really user friendly too. No extra remotes and boxes to change from one channel to the next. Just select a song from your phone and it plays. Turn the tv back on and the tv sound comes on. A lot of people would prefer this simplicity to the kind of set ups your talking aboutThat said... I think I ended up paying 1250 for this set up over a few years, would kind of expect it to go down in price not up!!!


Exactly. Two different target markets
Just some input as a Sonos owner, 2 play 1s and Playbase. You could save yourself the cost of the sub by choosing the Playbase instead of the Playbar. That is the choice I made and don't regret it one bit.
I understand that this setup may not have Sold by Atmos, however the surround sound my setup provides is more than sufficient for my needs, and the fact I don't want lots of speakers or wires trailing around the room.
I also love how simple it is to use, especially linked to Spotify and my music library.
alltaken12326th Dec 2017

Samsung K950...


32915146-KSkHz.jpgDon't know what this speaker is but customer reviews don't look great after a quick Google
zoso13135 h, 25 m ago

Is it that much better than the Yamaha 2700 soundbar which is £500 less


The Yamaha is only £569 at the moment, over £800 less. This is more than the Yamaha 5600 which has Dolby Atmos and can be picked up for less than £1300.
Does sonos do DTS yet?
alltaken12326th Dec 2017

Many of those will be for the lack of codec support, that has been fixed …Many of those will be for the lack of codec support, that has been fixed in a recent firmware update. It does Atmos too unlike the Sonos.Sony ST-HT5000 is another option.


What even is atmos ? I get 5.1 on movies I watch online and ps4 should I be needing more for something else for some reason ? Is it a blu ray thing? If so I guess it depends on if you ever buy them, like before the people who like sonos probably like the simplicity of streaming stuff too
chrisredmayne13 m ago

What even is atmos ? I get 5.1 on movies I watch online and ps4 should I …What even is atmos ? I get 5.1 on movies I watch online and ps4 should I be needing more for something else for some reason ? Is it a blu ray thing? If so I guess it depends on if you ever buy them, like before the people who like sonos probably like the simplicity of streaming stuff too


Atmos is Dolby's latest soundscape it uses more speakers 7.1.3 po t something like that - basically if you do the set up with speakers some go in the ceiling
zoso13137 h, 22 m ago

Is it that much better than the Yamaha 2700 soundbar which is £500 less


2 different things really. The Sonos is slightly more musical with plain music, but the Yamaha does surround sound better, from just the soundbar perspective. ie not including lots of extra surround speakers etc.

The Yamaha does stream Spotify, Deezer and net radio along with high res formats. Last time I checked, there was a resolution limit on the Sonos. I am sure I did not make that up. The Sonos app is probably the better one.

Other things to consider. I have a Sky box, Xbox and Blu ray player. All of them input into the Yamaha and output via one slender HDMI cable to the TV. The Sonos sound bar has no such pass through facility. In fact you need to connect everything to the TV, so multiple cables to TV. The TV is then your hub. Then an an optical cable needs to trail back to the Sonos bar. So much more cumbersome. There are workarounds this, but none of them as elegant as the Yamaha.

So really depends on your needs. For me the Sonos was overpriced, less flexible and not worth the hassle to try and get more Sonos integration in my household. I have Sonos elsewhere, but the soundbar didnt add up. Others may not have my needs and be so invested in Sonos, that they are willing to pay a significant premium.
indyjukebox5 m ago

2 different things really. The Sonos is slightly more musical with plain …2 different things really. The Sonos is slightly more musical with plain music, but the Yamaha does surround sound better, from just the soundbar perspective. ie not including lots of extra surround speakers etc.The Yamaha does stream Spotify, Deezer and net radio along with high res formats. Last time I checked, there was a resolution limit on the Sonos. I am sure I did not make that up. The Sonos app is probably the better one.Other things to consider. I have a Sky box, Xbox and Blu ray player. All of them input into the Yamaha and output via one slender HDMI cable to the TV. The Sonos sound bar has no such pass through facility. In fact you need to connect everything to the TV, so multiple cables to TV. The TV is then your hub. Then an an optical cable needs to trail back to the Sonos bar. So much more cumbersome. There are workarounds this, but none of them as elegant as the Yamaha.So really depends on your needs. For me the Sonos was overpriced, less flexible and not worth the hassle to try and get more Sonos integration in my household. I have Sonos elsewhere, but the soundbar didnt add up. Others may not have my needs and be so invested in Sonos, that they are willing to pay a significant premium.


How exactly is that more cumbersome ?

Your plugging everything into your Yamaha by HDMI then one HDMI into the tv?

Compared to everything in the tv then one optical into the soundbar?

I'm counting the same amount of wires here...
indyjukebox17 m ago

2 different things really. The Sonos is slightly more musical with plain …2 different things really. The Sonos is slightly more musical with plain music, but the Yamaha does surround sound better, from just the soundbar perspective. ie not including lots of extra surround speakers etc.The Yamaha does stream Spotify, Deezer and net radio along with high res formats. Last time I checked, there was a resolution limit on the Sonos. I am sure I did not make that up. The Sonos app is probably the better one.Other things to consider. I have a Sky box, Xbox and Blu ray player. All of them input into the Yamaha and output via one slender HDMI cable to the TV. The Sonos sound bar has no such pass through facility. In fact you need to connect everything to the TV, so multiple cables to TV. The TV is then your hub. Then an an optical cable needs to trail back to the Sonos bar. So much more cumbersome. There are workarounds this, but none of them as elegant as the Yamaha.So really depends on your needs. For me the Sonos was overpriced, less flexible and not worth the hassle to try and get more Sonos integration in my household. I have Sonos elsewhere, but the soundbar didnt add up. Others may not have my needs and be so invested in Sonos, that they are willing to pay a significant premium.


Nice explanation thank you!!
Oh my word! What a price for such mediocre speakers! I guess you are paying premium for the Sonos function. I'll reluctantly give heat, I guess it's a deal to some...
chrisredmayne32 m ago

How exactly is that more cumbersome ?Your plugging everything into your …How exactly is that more cumbersome ?Your plugging everything into your Yamaha by HDMI then one HDMI into the tv?Compared to everything in the tv then one optical into the soundbar?I'm counting the same amount of wires here...


Quite simple really. TV is wall mounted over a console/cabinet. Aesthetically, running one cable up the wall and hiding everything else within/behind the cabinet gives it a very clean appearance. Vs runninng 3 HDMI cables up the wall and then an optical cable back down is nowhere as pleasing to the eye as the former option.

Cost as well comes into the equation. I need 3 short HDMi cables, then 1 long HDMI output. With Sonos, 3 really long HDMI cables and then an equally long optical cable. The cable cost goes up significantly with my HDMI cable choice.

Also the Yamaha has pass through even when it is on stand by. So if my son wants to watch cartoon network, there is no need for the Yamaha to be working. I have a LG G7, so the inbuilt soundbar works well for normal day to day viewing. And the Yamaha comes on for movie night or gaming. On the Sonos, I would have to disable the optical output before the G7's soundbar could work again.

Obviously mine is a specific set of circumstances. But the Sonos is not flexible at all. It cannot play my high res files. Crazy!

Look, I love my Sono Play 1s in my other rooms. But they are relatively inexpensive and serve a purpose. Internet radio etc. The soundbar is just overpriced and completely inflexible. Of course if you have the disposable income and dont care about flexibility, then go for it.
chrisredmayne1 h, 15 m ago

What even is atmos ? I get 5.1 on movies I watch online and ps4 should I …What even is atmos ? I get 5.1 on movies I watch online and ps4 should I be needing more for something else for some reason ? Is it a blu ray thing? If so I guess it depends on if you ever buy them, like before the people who like sonos probably like the simplicity of streaming stuff too


This is an ATMOS soundbar. And sounds far far better than the Sonos bar. And costs even less that what this deal costs. It can stream music as well.
indyjukebox1 h, 16 m ago

Quite simple really. TV is wall mounted over a console/cabinet. …Quite simple really. TV is wall mounted over a console/cabinet. Aesthetically, running one cable up the wall and hiding everything else within/behind the cabinet gives it a very clean appearance. Vs runninng 3 HDMI cables up the wall and then an optical cable back down is nowhere as pleasing to the eye as the former option.Cost as well comes into the equation. I need 3 short HDMi cables, then 1 long HDMI output. With Sonos, 3 really long HDMI cables and then an equally long optical cable. The cable cost goes up significantly with my HDMI cable choice.Also the Yamaha has pass through even when it is on stand by. So if my son wants to watch cartoon network, there is no need for the Yamaha to be working. I have a LG G7, so the inbuilt soundbar works well for normal day to day viewing. And the Yamaha comes on for movie night or gaming. On the Sonos, I would have to disable the optical output before the G7's soundbar could work again.Obviously mine is a specific set of circumstances. But the Sonos is not flexible at all. It cannot play my high res files. Crazy!Look, I love my Sono Play 1s in my other rooms. But they are relatively inexpensive and serve a purpose. Internet radio etc. The soundbar is just overpriced and completely inflexible. Of course if you have the disposable income and dont care about flexibility, then go for it.


Maybe if it's wall mounted I can see your point but u think you are being very picky.... you would probably have all those cables already so no extra cost there. I don't know about your set up but if I wanted to play out of my tv sound I would simply press the audio button on my tv remote to go from optical to tv sound although I don't know why I would ever want to do that. I think your missing the simplicity of it all
indyjukebox1 h, 12 m ago

This is an ATMOS soundbar. And sounds far far better than the Sonos bar. …This is an ATMOS soundbar. And sounds far far better than the Sonos bar. And costs even less that what this deal costs. It can stream music as well.


Can one sound bar really produce as good of a surround sound as a sound bar.. . Two rear speakers and a sub? I'm asking I really don't know

Ps. Sounds pointless if you have a console
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Edited by: "chrisredmayne" 26th Dec 2017
indyjukebox1 h, 10 m ago

This is an ATMOS soundbar. And sounds far far better than the Sonos bar. …This is an ATMOS soundbar. And sounds far far better than the Sonos bar. And costs even less that what this deal costs. It can stream music as well.


this deal isnt just for the soundbar though, why does everyone keep comparing prices of a single soundbar to this whole system?
I am a Sonos fan with a fair amount of their kit (fortunately acquired pre price rise) and, apart from the Play 1s, agree that they are very expensive, if not overpriced. But the impressive build and sound quality - and overall ease of use makes them a joy to own and use, so I do not regret investing in the system. They will not be a perfect fit for everyone, and you may find better bang for your buck elsewhere, so if you are unsure, get a demo and make you own mind up. It’s the same with Apple products, pricey but damn good kit. You may also want to factor in the resale value as they hold it really well.

Peace to you all and have a great New Year!
alltaken12326th Dec 2017

The simplicity arguement only works if other solutions are more …The simplicity arguement only works if other solutions are more complicated. Sonos has aged and speakers have become more refined, the edge and premium have long gone IMO


Depends who's using it. I had an old wired surround system and my partner never turned on the receiver once as it was too complicated for her ha! At least with sonos she can just turn the power on and it's on....
chrisredmayne37 m ago

Maybe if it's wall mounted I can see your point but u think you are being …Maybe if it's wall mounted I can see your point but u think you are being very picky.... you would probably have all those cables already so no extra cost there. I don't know about your set up but if I wanted to play out of my tv sound I would simply press the audio button on my tv remote to go from optical to tv sound although I don't know why I would ever want to do that. I think your missing the simplicity of it all


We are digressing a bit, but my HDMI cables are not cheap and I had to buy them all from new. You mention simplicity, yet talk about having to press the audio button on the TV remote. My young one can use the Sky remote, but cannot go through switching the sound output of TV from optical to soundbar. Why would I want it? Because the G7 has a semi decent sound bar and I do not want the sound effects/do not need the sound effects/surround on cartoon network. In fact the quieter the better. Both for my hearing and his.

The sonos was not simple for me, it was more effort. The yamaha was/is much more simple.
1. My 7 year old can operate it without any fuss using the Sky remote and HDMI allows video and sound to pass through. No switching audio outputs on the TV. Simpler with Yamaha.
2. I dont have power cables where the rear speakers would be, so that would mean extension cables or creating new sockets - not simple, infact a pain in the bottom.
3. I actually preferred the Yamaha's surround sound to what Sonos could muster with the above setup. I auditioned both, plus a few others in our local richer sounds - thanks chaps!
4. It cost less than half as much as this so called deal. So I got an Oppo 4k player and still had loads of change from what a sonos setup would cost me.
5. I have paid less for HDMI cables, have one simple cable that goes to the TV, than 4 cables dangling around - simpler yes?
6. The Yamaha plays my high res files, the Sonos doesnt. I like how my Linn masters sound - I would have to downgrade them to a poorer quality file and then pay for storage to store these duplicates, so that they can be played via the Sonos - not simplicity at all. In fact a pain in the a**e!

So where is the simplicity in all this for Sonos??? Happy to be educated otherwise; but I spent a fair amount of time researching this before buying. The Sonos doesnt work for me. Pay all that money and be crippled by its limitations? No thanks!

It may work if you just want a semi decent sound bar, a decent app, the aesthetics and coolness factor but aren't really into high quality recordings.
chrisredmayne16 m ago

Depends who's using it. I had an old wired surround system and my partner …Depends who's using it. I had an old wired surround system and my partner never turned on the receiver once as it was too complicated for her ha! At least with sonos she can just turn the power on and it's on....


So would the Yamaha, Denon, Naim and a variety of other sound bars. Difference is that they sound a lot better and work out to be much better value for money options. Look I am not knocking the Sonos. It is a decent product, but severely overpriced, yet crippled with limitations. If you have the money and the limitations dont bother you, then go for it. It will serve you very well.
red2342 m ago

this deal isnt just for the soundbar though, why does everyone keep …this deal isnt just for the soundbar though, why does everyone keep comparing prices of a single soundbar to this whole system?


Because the Yamaha does surround sound and includes a wireless sub as well. Which I presume is the purpose of the above setup? So it makes sense to compare? And define better value for money products? Plus someone asked upstream and I had done the hard work comparing them, so just put my thoughts down.
Edited by: "indyjukebox" 27th Dec 2017
indyjukebox24 m ago

We are digressing a bit, but my HDMI cables are not cheap and I had to buy …We are digressing a bit, but my HDMI cables are not cheap and I had to buy them all from new. You mention simplicity, yet talk about having to press the audio button on the TV remote. My young one can use the Sky remote, but cannot go through switching the sound output of TV from optical to soundbar. Why would I want it? Because the G7 has a semi decent sound bar and I do not want the sound effects/do not need the sound effects/surround on cartoon network. In fact the quieter the better. Both for my hearing and his.The sonos was not simple for me, it was more effort. The yamaha was/is much more simple.1. My 7 year old can operate it without any fuss using the Sky remote and HDMI allows video and sound to pass through. No switching audio outputs on the TV. Simpler with Yamaha.2. I dont have power cables where the rear speakers would be, so that would mean extension cables or creating new sockets - not simple, infact a pain in the bottom.3. I actually preferred the Yamaha's surround sound to what Sonos could muster with the above setup. I auditioned both, plus a few others in our local richer sounds - thanks chaps!4. It cost less than half as much as this so called deal. So I got an Oppo 4k player and still had loads of change from what a sonos setup would cost me.5. I have paid less for HDMI cables, have one simple cable that goes to the TV, than 4 cables dangling around - simpler yes?6. The Yamaha plays my high res files, the Sonos doesnt. I like how my Linn masters sound - I would have to downgrade them to a poorer quality file and then pay for storage to store these duplicates, so that they can be played via the Sonos - not simplicity at all. In fact a pain in the a**e!So where is the simplicity in all this for Sonos??? Happy to be educated otherwise; but I spent a fair amount of time researching this before buying. The Sonos doesnt work for me. Pay all that money and be crippled by its limitations? No thanks!It may work if you just want a semi decent sound bar, a decent app, the aesthetics and coolness factor but aren't really into high quality recordings.


No no no I'm saying if I wanted to I would have to press the audio button. But I wouldn't. If I had a kid and he was playing annoying cartoons I would press the night mode on sonos which would make any screaming and banging sound less in your face!!

End of the day it's about the sound and if you prefer that sound it's the best for you. Personally I think the sonos sounds amazing, stick James Blake on and the sub makes the songs have a completely different feeling to them. Stuff like the start of massive attacks unfinished symphony can be heard on it that you can't hear on a regular set up. I don't know how a high res file could even improve on it but if you say it does I can't argue as I've never heard it.
indyjukebox22 m ago

So would the Yamaha, Denon, Naim and a variety of other sound bars. …So would the Yamaha, Denon, Naim and a variety of other sound bars. Difference is that they sound a lot better and work out to be much better value for money options. Look I am not knocking the Sonos. It is a decent product, but severely overpriced, yet crippled with limitations. If you have the money and the limitations dont bother you, then go for it. It will serve you very well.


I don't think they work the same... and there's no limitations at all for me using sonos. Nothing you've mentioned previously is something I would want.
alltaken12327th Dec 2017

I agree with most of your points, but what’s this about expensive HDMI c …I agree with most of your points, but what’s this about expensive HDMI cables?


I know, so sorry!
chrisredmayne4 m ago

I don't think they work the same... and there's no limitations at all for …I don't think they work the same... and there's no limitations at all for me using sonos. Nothing you've mentioned previously is something I would want.


Why wouldn't they? That is a presumption isnt it? They all work absolutely fine.

Sonos works for you, that is great. I just felt like I was being robbed, when I contemplated buying the above setup. I was fine buying the Play 1s.

Here you go
chrisredmayne9 m ago

No no no I'm saying if I wanted to I would have to press the audio button. …No no no I'm saying if I wanted to I would have to press the audio button. But I wouldn't. If I had a kid and he was playing annoying cartoons I would press the night mode on sonos which would make any screaming and banging sound less in your face!!End of the day it's about the sound and if you prefer that sound it's the best for you. Personally I think the sonos sounds amazing, stick James Blake on and the sub makes the songs have a completely different feeling to them. Stuff like the start of massive attacks unfinished symphony can be heard on it that you can't hear on a regular set up. I don't know how a high res file could even improve on it but if you say it does I can't argue as I've never heard it.


But you have to go and press night mode. I dont. My son happily switches it on and sets it to an agreed volume number that we have taught him is safe to listen to; on the sky remote. Ignore me though, I am just arguing for the sake of it. Have a good night!
Edited by: "indyjukebox" 27th Dec 2017
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