Sony A5100 Compact System Camera with 16-50mm OSS £299 @ John Lewis
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Sony A5100 Compact System Camera with 16-50mm OSS £299 @ John Lewis

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Found 27th Aug 2015
Cheapest I've seen it since the Amazon lightning deals a few months back. Great camera for the price. 2 year warranty.

Focus quickly with the Sony Alpha ILCE-5100 interchangeable lens camera. This compact system camera uses a hybrid auto focus system with 179 points to ensure your subject is always looking sharp. Combined with a large CMOS sensor, touch screen and high ISO range, the A5100 will help you elevate your art.

24.3MP Exmor APS-C CMOS sensor
BIONZ X engine for superb detail and noise reduction
Fast Hybrid AF with 179 phase-detection points
180° tiltable LCD screen for perfect self-portraits
Wi-Fi and One-touch NFC for simple sharing and control

Offer ends 2 September 2015
- rodman

48 Comments

Worth trying bespoke offer and getting down to £280. Though this is still good price HEAT!

Banned

Hot. Quick £50 on ebay

Excellent camera.

questiontime102

Worth trying bespoke offer and getting down to £280. Though this is still … Worth trying bespoke offer and getting down to £280. Though this is still good price HEAT!



What do you mean by bespoke offer? Is that the Barclaycard offer? I tried searching but can't see it

dodger5

What do you mean by bespoke offer? Is that the Barclaycard offer? I tried … What do you mean by bespoke offer? Is that the Barclaycard offer? I tried searching but can't see it



​Yup I think they are the same website but just to be sure:
https://www.bespokeoffers.co.uk
Then choose beat my price tab managed to get pffer of £284.

Thank you OP.

back to prices of a year ago
heat added

Yeah bought from Amazon at the same price last November.

Amazon also dropped price by a further £20, so £280 in last November / December price but that's long gone. So this is still a good price.

If you can wait might be able to get A6000 with lens towards black Friday

Is this really a good camera? The last Sony one I had didn't really take good pictures

I guess you get the 2nd year guarantee with John Lewis free too? (as opposed to other retailers).
But John Lewis returns have changed somewhat from 'no quibble' to confirming you can return with sales 'partner' at the till (ask for their name)
Argos used to be great on returns but now are a nightmare. I think Costco are the absolute best for returns (or used to be). Amazon Prime excellent.


Edited by: "deany76" 28th Aug 2015

Had this system a year a ago. It is a great little camera, easily pocketable with a stock lens or a pancake one, but in the end turned out to be a bit of a hassle to carry all these lenses around...

Nice price, but I would not buy one personally due to no viewfinder using it in bright conditions and only and LCD screen is not a good thing

dreamz

Is this really a good camera? The last Sony one I had didn't really take … Is this really a good camera? The last Sony one I had didn't really take good pictures



I purchased this camera (body only) recently with the Sony 10-18mm lens

This camera uses the same sensor and auto focus system as in the A6000 but in a smaller package. It does lose out on some features to it's bigger brother e.g. electronic viewfinder, more customisable controls but does gain 180 degree articulating screen and is also touch screen for focus point selection.

Some images that I took that I posted here albeit with different lens -

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1288669/47#13170933

fredmiranda.com/for…/47

dreamz

Is this really a good camera? The last Sony one I had didn't really take … Is this really a good camera? The last Sony one I had didn't really take good pictures


doesn't really mean anything without saying what camera
check flickr for squillions of examples of what even the kit lens can do

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=a5100%2016-50mm

unfortunately someone posted up their waxwork visit so lots of that on the front page X)

richard4

Nice price, but I would not buy one personally due to no viewfinder using … Nice price, but I would not buy one personally due to no viewfinder using it in bright conditions and only and LCD screen is not a good thing



well thats your choice, whilst the camera is cheaper than a6000 its a sacrifice many are willing to make
sunny weather mode is not too bad unless really really bright
Edited by: "brilly" 28th Aug 2015

Very good price, hot

This is getting cheap enough that it'll be enticing people to replace their compact cameras. This is more of a mini DSLR than a point'n'shoot. It can take excellent shots and it does have a full-auto 'idiot' mode that is pretty damned smart. However, one thing to note for the compact crowd, because the sensor is as big and as good as a (APS) DSLR and it's able to take DSLR quality photos, you need a lot of glass in the lens to get any kind of magnification. The included lens is only roughly 3x and compacts of this size with non-changable lenses can manage 20x zoom.

If you want to get the 10x zoom lens on this, you end up with something quite a lot larger. A large tube with a small box of a camera body on the end. I've got the a5100's bigger brother, the a6000 which is optically identical and I've taken pretty reasonable shots at motorsports events with the (not included) 200mm zoom. With my f1.8 prime lens, it can take incredibly sharp and vivid shots.

Nice camera, but make sure you know what you're buying.

What annoys me is that I have a Sony SLT and they use different mounts to their mirrorless, so if I was to get one of these I'd have to pay £80+ to get an adapter so the I could use the lenses I already own.

blammo

What annoys me is that I have a Sony SLT and they use different mounts to … What annoys me is that I have a Sony SLT and they use different mounts to their mirrorless, so if I was to get one of these I'd have to pay £80+ to get an adapter so the I could use the lenses I already own.


If you don't have a mirror, the distance to the sensor is much less so the geometry is completely different. The lenses have to focus on a spot much closer. It's not (just) money grabbing, without this change the cameras would be the same size as normal DSLRs. It's the same for M4/3 systems too.
Edited by: "GuigsyUK" 28th Aug 2015

Minolta lenses on these are amazing for little money. Love mine and would only think of upgrading in the same family

I own this camera and it takes excellent photos.

There are a couple of things to bear in mind. There are limited physical controls on the body, therefore lots of menu diving. If you set it to auto and snap away you're fine, but if you like to change settings e.g. between A/S/M modes, it's a bit of a faff.

The most annoying thing is I tend find a lot of my photographs are slightly askew. I guess it's down to style of camera and the heavy lens mounted asymmetrically.

For me personally, I'm considering going back to the Canon S90/S95/S100 family.

Edited by: "burky69" 28th Aug 2015

burky69

I own this camera and it takes excellent photos. There are a couple of … I own this camera and it takes excellent photos. There are a couple of things to bear in mind. There are limited physical controls on the body, therefore lots of menu diving. If you set it to auto and snap away you're fine, but if you like to change settings e.g. between A/S/M modes, it's a bit of a faff.The most annoying thing is I tend find a lot of my photographs are slightly askew. I guess it's down to style of camera and the heavy lens mounted asymmetrically.For me personally, I'm considering going back to the Canon S90/S95/S100 family.


eh?

Thinking of buying my wife a good starter DSLR. I was looking at the Nikon D3200, any thoughts from the experts here? The x3 zoom does seem a bit on the low side. thanks

brilly

eh?


Let me dumb it down for you:
mounted asymmetrically = to one side
askew = not in a straight or level position
i.e.
The most annoying thing is I tend find a lot of my photographs are not level. I guess it's down to style of camera and the heavy lens mounted to one side.

burky69

Let me dumb it down for you:mounted asymmetrically = to one sideaskew = … Let me dumb it down for you:mounted asymmetrically = to one sideaskew = not in a straight or level positioni.e.The most annoying thing is I tend find a lot of my photographs are not level. I guess it's down to style of camera and the heavy lens mounted to one side.


i understood what you meant but that would only be an issue if you just took pics 1 handed in auto mode and didn't use the screen to compose surely?

brilly

i understood what you meant but that would only be an issue if you just … i understood what you meant but that would only be an issue if you just took pics 1 handed in auto mode and didn't use the screen to compose surely?



They are only out by a few degrees, not enough to be noticeable on the small screen of the camera, but when viewed on a monitor/photograph it's noticeable.

Imagine holding an object in front of you with two hands that weighs four times as much at one side, it's not as easy to keep level as an object with a centre of gravity in the middle.

Other people may not have a problem with it, but it would put me off buying another Interchangeable lens camera with the lens mounted in this position.

burky69

They are only out by a few degrees, not enough to be noticeable on the … They are only out by a few degrees, not enough to be noticeable on the small screen of the camera, but when viewed on a monitor/photograph it's noticeable.Imagine holding an object in front of you with two hands that weighs four times as much at one side, it's not as easy to keep level as an object with a centre of gravity in the middle.Other people may not have a problem with it, but it would put me off buying another Interchangeable lens camera with the lens mounted in this position.


thats most of them then
...and s120 etc is mounted to the side as well

tbh i dont have a problem with the mount position, not like you hold the sides in an equal manner or have equal strength on both sides either (probably)

brilly

thats most of them then...and s120 etc is mounted to the side as welltbh … thats most of them then...and s120 etc is mounted to the side as welltbh i dont have a problem with the mount position, not like you hold the sides in an equal manner or have equal strength on both sides either (probably)


It's not a problem with the Canon S120 because the weight is more evenly distributed through the body/lens.
It just feels to me that the lens it too heavy and cumbersome when mounted in this way.
All I would say is go to your local stockist and try it before buying online.

dannysmith43

Thinking of buying my wife a good starter DSLR. I was looking at the … Thinking of buying my wife a good starter DSLR. I was looking at the Nikon D3200, any thoughts from the experts here? The x3 zoom does seem a bit on the low side. thanks



​this is better, but put some decent glass on it. look at sigma primes

dannysmith43

Thinking of buying my wife a good starter DSLR. I was looking at the … Thinking of buying my wife a good starter DSLR. I was looking at the Nikon D3200, any thoughts from the experts here? The x3 zoom does seem a bit on the low side. thanks


3x zoom is standard kit lens zoom, its just the ratio of long:short focal length ie 50/16 ~3
also be aware that primes are 1x zoom, they dont change 'zoom' but are generally higher quality with a given 'view'

Edited by: "brilly" 28th Aug 2015

dannysmith43

Thinking of buying my wife a good starter DSLR. I was looking at the … Thinking of buying my wife a good starter DSLR. I was looking at the Nikon D3200, any thoughts from the experts here? The x3 zoom does seem a bit on the low side. thanks


Your x3 comment suggests you don't understand what a DSLR (system) is. I suggest doing some reserch before splashing the cash!

Great camera. Better than any DSLR in the same price range.

burky69

It's not a problem with the Canon S120 because the weight is more evenly … It's not a problem with the Canon S120 because the weight is more evenly distributed through the body/lens.It just feels to me that the lens it too heavy and cumbersome when mounted in this way.



This is probably more an issue with your grip/technique than the camera, virtually every SLR/mirrorless camera in existence has the lens offset to one side, and photographers have handled far larger and heavier lenses than this kit lens for decades. I used to use my Sigma 18-35mm with a Canon 100D, it was comically unbalanced and the lens was only a few grams off being literally twice the weight of the bdy, but I never had issues with composition or images inadvertantly being skewed.

Edited by: "ElGofre" 28th Aug 2015

u0421793

Exactly. This nonsense about “x“ zoom is meaningless. Nobody who actually … Exactly. This nonsense about “x“ zoom is meaningless. Nobody who actually takes photographs for a living ever refers to such a thing, and most of us were mystified why people kept talking about “how many times zoom is the lens on that” over the recent decade or so. It turns out that it’s a marketing idiocy triumph. A marketing term that has numbers in it, to appeal to morons who buy things with bigger numbers on. It really is a meaningless measurement. What you want to know is what is the widest angle of view (usually expressed in a “35mm” equivalent, itself an archaic hang-over from 35mm film days that many people alive today wouldn’t have any experience of) (see my little account picture to the left, I’m dropping a roll of 35mm film into a glass of water and freezing the splash with a fast studio flash exposure — that’s the 35mm we refer to — a size of film! — I know, just as stupid as “x zoom”) and what is the narrowest angle of view (also a “35mm” equivalent). Hence, you might have a typical usable midrange zoom being 28mm-85mm, which is a nice range, wide enough to take wide shots of a lot of people in a room, all the way to narrow enough to get into a subject without a lot of other clutter also appearing in the picture. And everything in between (amateurs take note - yes you are allowed to use the lens zoom range in between the widest and narrowest! Try it in the middle now and then, the perspective appears normal to the eye). However, I have one of my zoom lenses on my Nikon that goes from the 35mm film frame equivalent of 24mm to 125mm (it’s actually a 16mm to 85mm Nikkor). That’s much wider than the aforementioned example at the wide end, and this extra width really makes the difference. There’s a far better lens than mine (and far more expensive) that goes from the 35mm film frame equivalent of 24mm to 50mm. That, to a clueless amateur, might seem like, duh that’s only 2x, how can that be any good? Well, it’s a well-respected 700 quid lens that beats most lenses at the wide end. What about the Nikkor 200mm-400mm? One of the best lenses you can get. Costs over five grand. But it’s only a 2x zoom. As you can see, one is a very wide angle zoom, the other is a telephoto zoom (i.e., very narrow view). Yet the amateur moron hooked on “x zoom” numbers sees them both as the same thing, a 2x zoom. You can see how meaningless that marketing nonsense sales-stimulating number is. It’s idiotic. Everyone stop doing it. It means nothing.


nope, sorry you spent the time writing that but i only read the first couple of lines

zoom IS relevant for compacts/bridges/point and shoot
why? they all (vast majority) start roughly at the same at the wide end (24-28 35mm effective ) so its alot easier to to say 10x zoom than "25-250mm if comparing to a 35mm camera even though its actually 4.5-45mm but you have a different sensor size etc etc" not very catchy
zoom is standardised in that case

the reason its not really relevant for ILC is because the lenses work over massively different ranges

the term zoom itself is fine, its the understanding of what zoom actually is thats the problem and thats shared between both casual p+s users AND camera snobs

Edited by: "brilly" 28th Aug 2015

GuigsyUK

This is getting cheap enough that it'll be enticing people to replace … This is getting cheap enough that it'll be enticing people to replace their compact cameras. This is more of a mini DSLR than a point'n'shoot. It can take excellent shots and it does have a full-auto 'idiot' mode that is pretty damned smart. However, one thing to note for the compact crowd, because the sensor is as big and as good as a (APS) DSLR and it's able to take DSLR quality photos, you need a lot of glass in the lens to get any kind of magnification. The included lens is only roughly 3x and compacts of this size with non-changable lenses can manage 20x zoom.If you want to get the 10x zoom lens on this, you end up with something quite a lot larger. A large tube with a small box of a camera body on the end. I've got the a5100's bigger brother, the a6000 which is optically identical and I've taken pretty reasonable shots at motorsports events with the (not included) 200mm zoom. With my f1.8 prime lens, it can take incredibly sharp and vivid shots.Nice camera, but make sure you know what you're buying.



Very good advice. A know a couple of people that have fallen into the zoom trap. Some haven't realised that you can change the lens either!

u0421793

Exactly. This nonsense about “x“ zoom is meaningless. Nobody who actually … Exactly. This nonsense about “x“ zoom is meaningless. Nobody who actually takes photographs for a living ever refers to such a thing, and most of us were mystified why people kept talking about “how many times zoom is the lens on that” over the recent decade or so. It turns out that it’s a marketing idiocy triumph. A marketing term that has numbers in it, to appeal to morons who buy things with bigger numbers on. It really is a meaningless measurement. What you want to know is what is the widest angle of view (usually expressed in a “35mm” equivalent, itself an archaic hang-over from 35mm film days that many people alive today wouldn’t have any experience of) (see my little account picture to the left, I’m dropping a roll of 35mm film into a glass of water and freezing the splash with a fast studio flash exposure — that’s the 35mm we refer to — a size of film! — I know, just as stupid as “x zoom”) and what is the narrowest angle of view (also a “35mm” equivalent). Hence, you might have a typical usable midrange zoom being 28mm-85mm, which is a nice range, wide enough to take wide shots of a lot of people in a room, all the way to narrow enough to get into a subject without a lot of other clutter also appearing in the picture. And everything in between (amateurs take note - yes you are allowed to use the lens zoom range in between the widest and narrowest! Try it in the middle now and then, the perspective appears normal to the eye). However, I have one of my zoom lenses on my Nikon that goes from the 35mm film frame equivalent of 24mm to 125mm (it’s actually a 16mm to 85mm Nikkor). That’s much wider than the aforementioned example at the wide end, and this extra width really makes the difference. There’s a far better lens than mine (and far more expensive) that goes from the 35mm film frame equivalent of 24mm to 50mm. That, to a clueless amateur, might seem like, duh that’s only 2x, how can that be any good? Well, it’s a well-respected 700 quid lens that beats most lenses at the wide end. What about the Nikkor 200mm-400mm? One of the best lenses you can get. Costs over five grand. But it’s only a 2x zoom. As you can see, one is a very wide angle zoom, the other is a telephoto zoom (i.e., very narrow view). Yet the amateur moron hooked on “x zoom” numbers sees them both as the same thing, a 2x zoom. You can see how meaningless that marketing nonsense sales-stimulating number is. It’s idiotic. Everyone stop doing it. It means nothing.



"Morons" "Clueless Amateurs". This grates me, not everyone is 'expected' to understand photography. For example, a father has a new baby, he pops into currys and picks up a compact camera to take pictures as his phone isn't cutting it. He buys what the shop recommends, he knows nothing of cameras it has never interested him before his baby, perhaps he reads a review beforehand. Do you really think he is a moron or clueless for not asking what the lens widest angle is, or what's its zoom range is in mm? No, he doesn't care. That's not to say it's not a useful thing for him to know, but I doubt he'll take the advice on-board if the person giving it is taking digs at him for not knowing.
Edited by: "pukenukem" 28th Aug 2015

OUt of Stock

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morrowsall

OUt of Stock



Yes they sold out fairly quick on-line today but I was in a JL store in London last night (Thurs) and the stock on the shelves is the same price so worth ringing your nearest branch and getting them to hold one if you are interested.

Out of stock online - but still in stock in stores.

Oxford Street London was out of stock when they checked but then I spotted 3 in a display cabinet. Think I got the last black one, and there were 2 white ones in stock. But I think that was it.

He checked Brent Cross, 4 in stock and the West London one had 9 - but then again the same system said 0 in Oxford Street before I spotted them...

Popular deal by the looks of things!

pukenukem

"Morons" "Clueless Amateurs". This grates me, not everyone is 'expected' … "Morons" "Clueless Amateurs". This grates me, not everyone is 'expected' to understand photography. For example, a father has a new baby, he pops into currys and picks up a compact camera to take pictures as his phone isn't cutting it. He buys what the shop recommends, he knows nothing of cameras it has never interested him before his baby, perhaps he reads a review beforehand. Do you really think he is a moron or clueless for not asking what the lens widest angle is, or what's its zoom range is in mm? No, he doesn't care. That's not to say it's not a useful thing for him to know, but I doubt he'll take the advice on-board if the person giving it is taking digs at him for not knowing.



I think the huge point your missing is this isn't aimed at the average joe who just wants a 'decent camera' and if you care about zoom and know nothing about it at this price point (where a decent zoom lens would be 500+) then that person shouldn't be looking at this camera in the first place.
As Ive used cameras professionally for over 10 years now the 'zoom thing' doesn't bother me. Because they are reserved for point and clicks, bridges etc that I would use anyway. But I agree that its just silly to compare the two types of products, maybe thats where people are getting annoyed?
The thing is people want the best of everything now a days at cheap prices but they don't need it.
I could understand if I went into my local garage and he rattled off all the specs the latest porsche had and I said 'why can't they just say its x3 faster than my van or something and make it easy' he would be annoyed that I didn't understand the other 500 things that might make a difference if I were to actually use it for its purpose.
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