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Sony A6400 E-mount compact mirrorless camera body £799 @ Amazon
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Sony A6400 E-mount compact mirrorless camera body £799 @ Amazon

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Posted 7th Dec 2019Edited by:"toaster"

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Matching Jessops current price, previous lowest on Amazon UK was only £5 less.

Is it worth £200 more than the A6500? State of the art full time AF tracking and eye AF, flip up screen, unlimited recording and non dimming screen Vs the A6500's IBIS and much larger burst buffer?

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Edged07/12/2019 22:46

A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 …A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 has the best auto focus, the A6400 is the newer A6300 while the A6600 is the newer A6500, it's not hard to understand.


It's not hard to understand for someone close to it. It's bizarre to understand from the perspective of the average Joe walking into his high street camera store. There's no logic in the model references.
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yes it is
You've got to question who's naming these Sony products. So the A6400 is more expensive and better than the A6500? But both are better than the A6300? How on earth is the average consumer meant to follow this nonsense?

Seems a good price.
Edited by: "Mike_HUKD" 7th Dec 2019
sparklehedgehog07/12/2019 22:36

yes it is


Possibly, one things for sure though, it's way better than the A6100, the pricing on that body is crazy.
Mike_HUKD07/12/2019 22:39

You've got to question who's naming these Sony products. So the A6400 is …You've got to question who's naming these Sony products. So the A6400 is more expensive and better than the A6500? But both are better than the A6300? How on earth is the average consumer meant to follow this nonsense? Seems a good price.


A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 has the best auto focus, the A6400 is the newer A6300 while the A6600 is the newer A6500, it's not hard to understand.
Edged07/12/2019 22:46

A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 …A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 has the best auto focus, the A6400 is the newer A6300 while the A6600 is the newer A6500, it's not hard to understand.


It's not hard to understand for someone close to it. It's bizarre to understand from the perspective of the average Joe walking into his high street camera store. There's no logic in the model references.
Edged07/12/2019 22:46

A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 …A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 has the best auto focus, the A6400 is the newer A6300 while the A6600 is the newer A6500, it's not hard to understand.



Yes but wouldn't it make more sense if the A6500 had the capabilities of A6400 with IBIS and the A6600 was an improvement on that rather than the AF on the A6400 outshines that of the A6500 but the A6500 has IBIS and the A6400 doesn't. Seems retrograde don't you think to include IBIS but make the AF worse?
Also a bit ridiculous that you can buy FF Sony A7/A7ii for same price or less.
Edited by: "Whammerhead" 7th Dec 2019
Whammerhead07/12/2019 23:00

Yes but wouldn't it make more sense if the A6500 had the capabilities of …Yes but wouldn't it make more sense if the A6500 had the capabilities of A6400 with IBIS and the A6600 was an improvement on that rather than the AF on the A6400 outshines that of the A6500 but the A6500 has IBIS and the A6400 doesn't. Seems retrograde don't you think to include IBIS but make the AF worse?Also a bit ridiculous that you can buy FF Sony A7/A7ii for same price or less.


A6400 is newer than A6500. Hence of anything you could argue it's odd they didn't put IBIS in the A6400.

Current model range of A6100, A6400, A6600 now makes more sense apart from naming of A6100 ( would be better if A6200) and pricing. A6400 is better value as released first.

Focusing of A6400 and modes it has like real time tracking is why it costs similar to older full frame models.
mike_648007/12/2019 23:26

A6400 is newer than A6500. Hence of anything you could argue it's odd they …A6400 is newer than A6500. Hence of anything you could argue it's odd they didn't put IBIS in the A6400.Current model range of A6100, A6400, A6600 now makes more sense apart from naming of A6100 ( would be better if A6200) and pricing. A6400 is better value as released first.Focusing of A6400 and modes it has like real time tracking is why it costs similar to older full frame models.



Thanks for that. Wasn't aware of release dates (I know, could have googled), but as you say A6500 out b4 A6400(?).
Is the Sony pricing greedy for what you get? Is Sony killing the market? Admittedly some of their tech seems great (I don't have any myself but have considered it) and they produce most sensors. One company's growing grip of a market is never good... eg Intel v AMD for a long time until Ryzen
Edited by: "Whammerhead" 7th Dec 2019
Whammerhead07/12/2019 23:00

Yes but wouldn't it make more sense if the A6500 had the capabilities of …Yes but wouldn't it make more sense if the A6500 had the capabilities of A6400 with IBIS and the A6600 was an improvement on that rather than the AF on the A6400 outshines that of the A6500 but the A6500 has IBIS and the A6400 doesn't. Seems retrograde don't you think to include IBIS but make the AF worse?Also a bit ridiculous that you can buy FF Sony A7/A7ii for same price or less.


They didn't make the AF worse, the A6500 is the old model, the A6600 is the new mobel and the A6300 is the old model and the A6400 is the new model.
Whammerhead07/12/2019 23:35

Thanks for that. Wasn't aware of release dates (I know, could have …Thanks for that. Wasn't aware of release dates (I know, could have googled), but as you say A6500 out b4 A6400(?). Is the Sony pricing greedy for what you get? Is Sony killing the market? Admittedly some of their tech seems great (I don't have any myself but have considered it) and they produce most sensors. One company's growing grip of a market is never good... eg Intel v AMD for a long time until Ryzen


Old models are A6000, A6300 and A6500.
New models are A6100, A6400 and A6600.
All prices well but the A6600 is a bit over priced.
mike_648007/12/2019 23:26

A6400 is newer than A6500. Hence of anything you could argue it's odd they …A6400 is newer than A6500. Hence of anything you could argue it's odd they didn't put IBIS in the A6400.Current model range of A6100, A6400, A6600 now makes more sense apart from naming of A6100 ( would be better if A6200) and pricing. A6400 is better value as released first.Focusing of A6400 and modes it has like real time tracking is why it costs similar to older full frame models.


No idea why you think jumping the A6000 to the A6200 makes more sense? Every other camera they've released goes up 1 so why should A6000 jump 2 ? But agree with everything else your saying.
a6400 has miles better autofocus, better video and better colour rendition, a6500 has better ergonomics and IBIS which is a significant improvement especially if you're using the Sigma lenses without inbuilt stabilization.
In an ideal world you'd get the a6600 but that costs nearly 1400 quid.
I'm torn between this and the a6500 as I just bought two Sigma primes so the IBIS would be useful.
Will probably end up getting this though because the real time tracking animal eye autofocus is awesome.
You can't really compare this with a FF a7 i or ii as the autofocus compares with an a9, and with decent fast lenses (Sigma 16/56) you really won't notice much difference in image quality.
mikeyfive08/12/2019 02:45

a6400 has miles better autofocus, better video and better colour …a6400 has miles better autofocus, better video and better colour rendition, a6500 has better ergonomics and IBIS which is a significant improvement especially if you're using the Sigma lenses without inbuilt stabilization. In an ideal world you'd get the a6600 but that costs nearly 1400 quid.I'm torn between this and the a6500 as I just bought two Sigma primes so the IBIS would be useful.Will probably end up getting this though because the real time tracking animal eye autofocus is awesome.You can't really compare this with a FF a7 i or ii as the autofocus compares with an a9, and with decent fast lenses (Sigma 16/56) you really won't notice much difference in image quality.



So I'm presumimg you're in to animal/wildlife photoraphy in particular. Yet you say the IBIS in the A6500 would be useful for Sigma because, I presume it's not inbuilt into the lens itself, yet you're more prone to this body. Also, the FF will be far better in lowlight scenarios. Your statement seems, to me, full of contradictions
Whammerhead08/12/2019 04:42

So I'm presumimg you're in to animal/wildlife photoraphy in particular. …So I'm presumimg you're in to animal/wildlife photoraphy in particular. Yet you say the IBIS in the A6500 would be useful for Sigma because, I presume it's not inbuilt into the lens itself, yet you're more prone to this body. Also, the FF will be far better in lowlight scenarios. Your statement seems, to me, full of contradictions


More prone to this body?
Not particularly and no, FF won't be all that much better in low light, definitely not an a7 i or ii anyway.
mikeyfive08/12/2019 05:30

More prone to this body?Not particularly and no, FF won't be all that much …More prone to this body?Not particularly and no, FF won't be all that much better in low light, definitely not an a7 i or ii anyway.



Have you used the A7, A7ii versus any A6*** in lowlight with the signa lenses you mentioned? If not why would I/anybody take what you have said seriously?
I own both the a7iii and the a6400. They are both excellent cameras.

The a7iii though is the Pro version, and by that I mean it is set up for ease of use and IBIS.

The a6400 auto focus is stunning though. Its just snappy. Compared to any other a6*00 body I've used it's notably better. For this price new, it's a great deal.
Good price and would make a nice upgrade from my 6000. I have had various lenses over the years but tend to stick with my SELP18105G as it does most things pretty well, what would be the attraction with non-stabilised? Biggest weakness for me currently is fast moving people. Assume the AF is a big step up?
SpamJavelin08/12/2019 07:26

Good price and would make a nice upgrade from my 6000. I have had various …Good price and would make a nice upgrade from my 6000. I have had various lenses over the years but tend to stick with my SELP18105G as it does most things pretty well, what would be the attraction with non-stabilised? Biggest weakness for me currently is fast moving people. Assume the AF is a big step up?


Fast moving objects require fast shutter speeds, which usually means higher aperture lenses or higher ISO (or a bigger sensor). The a6400 will have better high ISO than an older model which should help a little with the fast moving objects. The focus will also track them significantly better.
Edged07/12/2019 22:46

A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 …A6500 has Image Stabilisation and very good auto focus, while the A6400 has the best auto focus, the A6400 is the newer A6300 while the A6600 is the newer A6500, it's not hard to understand.


Yep totally clear now
These cameras are so complicated now and needlessly updated that it's smoke and mirrors. Back in the old days of film they would produce the same camera for over a decade. And they had plenty of technical advances in that time (auto focus, dx coding, high shutter speed, spot metering) but they wouldn't just stop making a successful camera. They made the contax g2 for 9 years and only stopped because the company was sold. Anyway, I change my main camera only once every three or four years now. I just went from the a6000 to the incredible Amazon prime deal the a6500 for 549. And it's a great camera.
Whammerhead08/12/2019 06:07

Have you used the A7, A7ii versus any A6*** in lowlight with the signa …Have you used the A7, A7ii versus any A6*** in lowlight with the signa lenses you mentioned? If not why would I/anybody take what you have said seriously?



Yes I have and I couldn't care less whether you take my opinions seriously.
I'm not sure if you're planning on buying a Sony camera or just here for the bants but if you are I'd just read some reviews prior to making your decision. Full frame is great, but without workable autofocus then no matter how great your sensor is you can only really use it for taking photos of things that don't move... a7 i and ii have 4 generation old af system. The a6400 has the best af I've come across on a mirrorless camera, it's up there with an a9.
Anyway, the a6500 isn't available from Amazon anymore so you've got the choice of this or an a7x. If you can afford an a7iii get that, but bear in mind it costs 1700 without lenses and decent FF lenses cost a lot more than their crop counterparts, with only marginal improvements. The Sigma contemporary crop lenses give you pretty much FF image quality.
Good cameras but find them overpriced for what they offer.
johnw8408/12/2019 06:46

I own both the a7iii and the a6400. They are both excellent cameras.The …I own both the a7iii and the a6400. They are both excellent cameras.The a7iii though is the Pro version, and by that I mean it is set up for ease of use and IBIS. The a6400 auto focus is stunning though. Its just snappy. Compared to any other a6*00 body I've used it's notably better. For this price new, it's a great deal.


Do you find that the AF tracking feature of the A6400 compensates for the lack of IBIS when using a non-stabilized lens somewhat?

I'm asking from a photography perspective, not videography btw. Thanks.
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