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Posted 19th Feb

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cheapest I've seen for a while, body plus lens for £750 from amazon sounds badass deal, the body alone on that page cost £829??
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Really good deal already before, and now they throw in the kit lens.
Wow I'm really tempted! I've been reading up on this camera all day today (plus for the last few weeks lol)

One or two things are nagging at me though. I wonder if any owners can help...

1. it doesn't have IBIS, does this cause a lot of trouble? Esp for non-stabilized lenses?

2. I've heard the touch screen is really laggy. Any truth to this?

3. It seems this camera is geared towards vloggers etc. Is it going to be any good for photography? (Mainly portrait)
Can I ring people on it
Been eyeing this up for the last day or so, too good a price to let up but feel it might be more than I need!
Edited by: "tonicaek" 19th Feb
I wish they'd put the price back up. It'll stop me hovering over the buy now button.
DevK19/02/2020 17:21

Wow I'm really tempted! I've been reading up on this camera all day today …Wow I'm really tempted! I've been reading up on this camera all day today (plus for the last few weeks lol)One or two things are nagging at me though. I wonder if any owners can help...1. it doesn't have IBIS, does this cause a lot of trouble? Esp for non-stabilized lenses? 2. I've heard the touch screen is really laggy. Any truth to this?3. It seems this camera is geared towards vloggers etc. Is it going to be any good for photography? (Mainly portrait)


If you are mainly interested in portraits IBIS shouldn't be a problem as you generally use a very wide aperture and IBIS won't stop the blur of a moving person, only camera shake at slow shutter speeds.
My A6500 touch screen works fine for moving the focusing point around, can't guarantee it but would imagine it's the same on the A6400.
Photo quality for portraits will be excellent and they have tweaked and improved the facial colour rendering in this latest version too.
The full time eye AF (no buttons needed to activate) is so good on this that portraits will be a doddle even using the thinnest of depth of field with fast lenses.
toaster19/02/2020 17:35

If you are mainly interested in portraits IBIS shouldn't be a problem as …If you are mainly interested in portraits IBIS shouldn't be a problem as you generally use a very wide aperture and IBIS won't stop the blur of a moving person, only camera shake at slow shutter speeds. My A6500 touch screen works fine for moving the focusing point around, can't guarantee it but would imagine it's the same on the A6400. Photo quality for portraits will be excellent and they have tweaked and improved the facial colour rendering in this latest version too.The full time eye AF (no buttons needed to activate) is so good on this that portraits will be a doddle even using the thinnest of depth of field with fast lenses.


Thanks for the input.

The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 (I believe that doesn't have it?)

I was concerned about the lack of IBIS but had no way of gauging it's effectiveness for portraits.

I take your point about camera shake at slow shutter speeds, but these are sometimes needed in addition to wide apertures?

I'm coming from a fairly low end Canon DSLR with a nifty fifty and I find it to be quite soft. It's not stabilized either, nor IBIS. Can't help but think that would help with soft photos?
Edited by: "DevK" 19th Feb
tonicaek19/02/2020 17:28

Been eyeing this up for the last day or so, too good a price to let up but …Been eyeing this up for the last day or so, too good a price to let up but feel it might be more than I need!


the canon m50 is going for £599 on amazon, this blow past it by a mile, get this so ur future proof for ages! this has 4k with much less crop than the m50. it will be money well spent if ur budget allows it. one thing to keep in mind is that sony lenses cost more though
DevK19/02/2020 17:53

Thanks for the input. The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 …Thanks for the input. The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 (I believe that doesn't have it?)I was concerned about the lack of IBIS but had no way of gauging it's effectiveness for portraits. I take your point about camera shake at slow shutter speeds, but these are sometimes needed in addition to wide apertures? I'm coming from a fairly low level Canon DSLR with a nifty fifty and I find it to be quite soft. It's not stabilized either, nor IBIS. Can't help but think that would help with soft photos?


a6400 is stupid popular just do a google search or a youtube review and u should have ur answer.
srp11119/02/2020 17:23

Can I ring people on it


you could start a youtube channel with this, probably the best kit under £1000 and make money to buy a phone to ring of?
DevK19/02/2020 17:53

Thanks for the input. The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 …Thanks for the input. The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 (I believe that doesn't have it?)I was concerned about the lack of IBIS but had no way of gauging it's effectiveness for portraits. I take your point about camera shake at slow shutter speeds, but these are sometimes needed in addition to wide apertures? I'm coming from a fairly low level Canon DSLR with a nifty fifty and I find it to be quite soft. It's not stabilized either, nor IBIS. Can't help but think that would help with soft photos?


The a6500 does have eye AF but you have to assign a button to it (I don't think you do on the a6400). I'd say it's just ok on my a6500, from what I read it's much better on the a6400/a6600 and great for portraits.

I agree with everything @toaster said. I enjoy IBIS for hand held shots with no subject motion, especially adapted legacy manual focus glass. As soon as you increase shutter speed, which you'd want for someone moving, then it's less relevant. Also like @toaster said, they've improved the default colours which should mean you have to make less adjustments for skin tones. I find I sometimes have to do a bit of work in LR for some shots on my a6500.
DevK19/02/2020 17:53

Thanks for the input. The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 …Thanks for the input. The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 (I believe that doesn't have it?)I was concerned about the lack of IBIS but had no way of gauging it's effectiveness for portraits. I take your point about camera shake at slow shutter speeds, but these are sometimes needed in addition to wide apertures? I'm coming from a fairly low level Canon DSLR with a nifty fifty and I find it to be quite soft. It's no stabilized either, nor IBIS. Can't help but think that would help with soft photos?


My A6500 does have eye AF but it must be activated with a button and by all accounts it's much improved on the A6400. The Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 in all it 22 year incarnations is known to be a bit soft wide open, the underrated and more modern designed Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS is sharper wide open and features stabilisation too (personally would go for the Sigma 56mm f1.4 if you are serious about portraits though).
Even if you are doing available light portraits in extremely dark interiors you should be able to get away with holdable shutter speeds with a raise in ISO without the need for stabilisation. I'd rather see some grain than image shake and the sensor in this Sony is way better at noise control than an old Canon APS-C SLR.
The a6400 has cutting edge autofocus (animal eye, etc) it's far superior to the a6500 (which I own) and worth the IBIS sacrifice as far as I'm concerned. It's the best AF I've ever used on a mirrorless camera and just as good as any DSLR I've used. It's the same chip as an A9.
The colours are better than the a6500 too both on photos and videos.
Also it has unlimited video length, unlike the a6500 and doesn't overheat whilst shooting.
I'd pick this over any camera on the market at this price point right now.




DevK19/02/2020 17:53

Thanks for the input. The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 …Thanks for the input. The eye AF is what makes me want this over the A6500 (I believe that doesn't have it?)I was concerned about the lack of IBIS but had no way of gauging it's effectiveness for portraits. I take your point about camera shake at slow shutter speeds, but these are sometimes needed in addition to wide apertures? I'm coming from a fairly low level Canon DSLR with a nifty fifty and I find it to be quite soft. It's not stabilized either, nor IBIS. Can't help but think that would help with soft photos?

Edited by: "mikeyfive" 19th Feb
Is this any good for mirrorless streaming set up?
This or the panasonic s1
PlayChase19/02/2020 20:18

Is this any good for mirrorless streaming set up?


I would imagine perfect, combined with a Sigma 16mm F1.4 it would be amazing quality.
mikeyfive19/02/2020 19:48

The a6400 has cutting edge autofocus (animal eye, etc) it's far superior …The a6400 has cutting edge autofocus (animal eye, etc) it's far superior to the a6500 (which I own) and worth the IBIS sacrifice as far as I'm concerned. It's the best AF I've ever used on a mirrorless camera and just as good as any DSLR I've used. It's the same chip as an A9.The colours are better than the a6500 too both on photos and videos.Also it has unlimited video length, unlike the a6500 and doesn't overheat whilst shooting.I'd pick this over any camera on the market at this price point right now.


plus u are getting it from Amazon with its excellent customer service for the cheapest price I've seen this camera in over a year (go check the search bar for a6400, not this low with the lens that i can find, bar grey imports)
deal.finder.org19/02/2020 20:21

This or the panasonic s1


Very different. Depends on what you photograph. S1 is full frame and has an amazing evf but the auto focus speed isn't the fastest.The body is also way heavier and more costly but v nice camera.
mikeyfive19/02/2020 19:48

I'd pick this over any camera on the market at this price point right now.


The small evf is the only thing that would put me off but the rest is very good.
How does this compare to the 5100? Would the 6400 be THAT much better for using 3 holidays a year?
afroylnt19/02/2020 20:54

The small evf is the only thing that would put me off but the rest is very …The small evf is the only thing that would put me off but the rest is very good.

Fair point, I had the a6000 for years and it was perfectly usable.
DevK19/02/2020 17:21

Wow I'm really tempted! I've been reading up on this camera all day today …Wow I'm really tempted! I've been reading up on this camera all day today (plus for the last few weeks lol)One or two things are nagging at me though. I wonder if any owners can help...1. it doesn't have IBIS, does this cause a lot of trouble? Esp for non-stabilized lenses? 2. I've heard the touch screen is really laggy. Any truth to this?3. It seems this camera is geared towards vloggers etc. Is it going to be any good for photography? (Mainly portrait)



Just buy it - you won’t be disappointed!

I was also worried about IBIS and asking similar questions not long ago. It’s a nice feature to have, but honestly it’s a non-issue. The only situation where I would take an a6500 over an a6400 was if I was regularly shooting handheld photos in dark conditions - as that’s when shutter speed starts to get a bit longer. For video ibis isn’t good enough anyway and you need a tripod or gimbal. For vast majority of photos you’ll get more benefit out of a6400 auto focus enhancements and colour improvements than the IBIS would give.

I just took 900+ photos on holiday on my a6400, all handheld, absolutely no issues at all (other than my often crap photography skills of course ).

On the touch screen, I’ve not noticed this at all. The only thing you use the touch screen for really is touch auto focus, all the menus you need to operate with the physics controls.

P.s. obviously in a perfect world we would buy the a6600, but they certainly priced that one mighty high!!
Edited by: "Mike_HUKD" 19th Feb
mattd93819/02/2020 21:03

How does this compare to the 5100? Would the 6400 be THAT much better for …How does this compare to the 5100? Would the 6400 be THAT much better for using 3 holidays a year?


Out and out picture quality not that different, the A5100 is a seriously small camera, great for holiday snapping and it's picture quality holds up really well. A viewfinder, class leading AF, rugged build and extensive video features inc. 4k are what you are paying for in the A6400. I kept my A5100 because of its size despite having an A6500 and A7.

It depends how seriously you take your holiday photography I guess.
toaster19/02/2020 21:18

Out and out picture quality not that different, the A5100 is a seriously …Out and out picture quality not that different, the A5100 is a seriously small camera, great for holiday snapping and it's picture quality holds up really well. A viewfinder, class leading AF, rugged build and extensive video features inc. 4k are what you are paying for in the A6400. I kept my A5100 because of its size despite having an A6500 and A7. It depends how seriously you take your holiday photography I guess.


The only thing (for me) I think the 5100 needs is a viewfinder as when it’s sunny you can’t see zip on the screen
mattd93819/02/2020 21:25

The only thing (for me) I think the 5100 needs is a viewfinder as when …The only thing (for me) I think the 5100 needs is a viewfinder as when it’s sunny you can’t see zip on the screen


True, that's the trade off, just spray and pray when that happens you might get lucky
mikeyfive19/02/2020 21:03

Fair point, I had the a6000 for years and it was perfectly usable.


I wear glasses so the smaller evfs are more of a challenge to use especially if you are use to a dslr.
mattd93819/02/2020 21:25

The only thing (for me) I think the 5100 needs is a viewfinder as when …The only thing (for me) I think the 5100 needs is a viewfinder as when it’s sunny you can’t see zip on the screen


For me, a hot shoe would've been a nice addition
mikeyfive19/02/2020 21:03

Fair point, I had the a6000 for years and it was perfectly usable.


But there are cameras with better evfs now e.g.i. Nikon z50. I find the nicer the viewfinder/evf the more I tend to use it but I agree the evf is usable.
mattd93819/02/2020 21:03

How does this compare to the 5100? Would the 6400 be THAT much better for …How does this compare to the 5100? Would the 6400 be THAT much better for using 3 holidays a year?


Yes by a mile
Enterpart19/02/2020 18:16

the canon m50 is going for £599 on amazon, this blow past it by a mile, …the canon m50 is going for £599 on amazon, this blow past it by a mile, get this so ur future proof for ages! this has 4k with much less crop than the m50. it will be money well spent if ur budget allows it. one thing to keep in mind is that sony lenses cost more though


It’s the futureproofing that’s swaying me. I’m pretty much 100% sold on the Sony Alpha range; do come from a background of dabbing in photography but haven’t touched proper camera in about ten years. Was eyeing a used A6000, as it falls within budget with money to spare on accessories/another lens, and not being a pro means I’m not really looking for all the bells and whistles - but this is tempting!
Currently have a Sony A57 (16megapixel), use it only on holidays. I came across this post whilst looking at vlogging cameras for a trip to Pakistan in July. Its the 4K videos which swayed it for me. Now to convince my wife I need to spend this amount of money. Cant see the Sony A57 selling for much on ebay.
For £679 on e-infin e-infin.com/uk/…ck)
Yes it's grey import but colours on photos are same.
Jo44420/02/2020 11:50

For £679 on e-infin …For £679 on e-infin https://www.e-infin.com/uk/item/3831/sony_alpha_a6400_mirrorless_digital_camera_with_16-50mm_lens_(black)Yes it's grey import but colours on photos are same.


Not worth the £70 saving, over UK Warranty and Amazon peice of mind.
Anyone know how long this deal is in for?

And does it qualify for any type of Sony cash back?

@Enterpart
Edited by: "DevK" 20th Feb
DevK20/02/2020 21:09

Anyone know how long this deal is in for? And does it qualify for any type …Anyone know how long this deal is in for? And does it qualify for any type of Sony cash back?@Enterpart



your guess is as good as mine, someone posted the same deal couple of days before me so its been on for a while, its weird its this cheap, something must be up.
this page sony.co.uk/pro…ack says no to cashback on this item and even if there was we're outside the promotion timeframe unfortunetly
PlayChase19/02/2020 20:18

Is this any good for mirrorless streaming set up?


Yes - along with wanting a decent camera, this is one of the reasons why I've been considering it. It outputs clean HDMI, so when used with an Elgato CamLink it will work as a streaming cam - albeit a little overkill. The last gen A6000 or even the A5100 would work just as well if the intended use is solely for streaming.
tonicaek21/02/2020 12:25

Yes - along with wanting a decent camera, this is one of the reasons why …Yes - along with wanting a decent camera, this is one of the reasons why I've been considering it. It outputs clean HDMI, so when used with an Elgato CamLink it will work as a streaming cam - albeit a little overkill. The last gen A6000 or even the A5100 would work just as well if the intended use is solely for streaming.


Thanks. I’m seriously considering it. I’m looking for a versatile cam and video output is really important to me. I don’t know anything at all about cameras. I want to start streaming as a hobby but also maybe produce some video content of our show dogs. Or am I better off picking up a much cheaper camera and buying a 4K gopro for video recording?
PlayChase21/02/2020 12:32

Thanks. I’m seriously considering it. I’m looking for a versatile cam and v …Thanks. I’m seriously considering it. I’m looking for a versatile cam and video output is really important to me. I don’t know anything at all about cameras. I want to start streaming as a hobby but also maybe produce some video content of our show dogs. Or am I better off picking up a much cheaper camera and buying a 4K gopro for video recording?


check on youtube best vlogging camera 2019, this camera has it all. best auto focus period on market, best video quality, unlimited recording (other cameras allow upto 30 minutes), best selection of lenses and song seems to be supporting these types of camer. 120fps slow mo.
at this price its the best camera period.
watch some youtube videos on what camera to pick.
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