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So much camera for this money
Cheap but l want the a7iii
hotshot27/11/2019 18:30

Cheap but l want the a7iii


Wanna buy mine I have upgraded to the a9
Edited by: "tommyni" 27th Nov 2019
tommyni27/11/2019 18:35

Wanna buy mine I have upgraded to the a9


How much and where are you based?
Any cashback on this
I cannot believe that I did not pull the trigger 3 days ago when the same model was Available from Amazon UK for 745, I've waited till the morning and price jumped to 999
Ziu27/11/2019 18:58

I cannot believe that I did not pull the trigger 3 days ago when the same …I cannot believe that I did not pull the trigger 3 days ago when the same model was Available from Amazon UK for 745, I've waited till the morning and price jumped to 999



It'll probably drop to £744 on BF and be considered (by Amazon) as a great deal
Ziu27/11/2019 18:58

I cannot believe that I did not pull the trigger 3 days ago when the same …I cannot believe that I did not pull the trigger 3 days ago when the same model was Available from Amazon UK for 745, I've waited till the morning and price jumped to 999


Why not buy this and save £40 ?
How does this compare to say a fujifilm xt20 or xt30?
andyjst27/11/2019 20:09

How does this compare to say a fujifilm xt20 or xt30?



It's full frame for starters~larger sensor, better in lowlight. The Sony glass is probably considerably more expensive than Fuji
Edited by: "Whammerhead" 27th Nov 2019
andyjst27/11/2019 20:09

How does this compare to say a fujifilm xt20 or xt30?


More third party lens for Sony system than Fuji. There are more Sony lenses as well. You have the pro GM series as well as the Sony G (meant to be cheaper). You also get some no frills kit lenses. Basically Sony has better ecosystem especially if you want relatively afford lenses from sigma, tamron, obviously there is also Sony Zeiss as well.
Edited by: "RickyWong" 27th Nov 2019
Ziu27/11/2019 18:58

I cannot believe that I did not pull the trigger 3 days ago when the same …I cannot believe that I did not pull the trigger 3 days ago when the same model was Available from Amazon UK for 745, I've waited till the morning and price jumped to 999


It's £689 on e-infinity.
Whammerhead27/11/2019 20:53

It's full frame for starters~larger sensor, better in lowlight. The Sony …It's full frame for starters~larger sensor, better in lowlight. The Sony glass is probably considerably more expensive than Fuji


However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage camera lens and use it on Sony's e-mount with a £15 adapter (if you don't mind manual focusing).

39148406-M3qpl.jpgSony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 55mm f/1.2 lens (£200ish).

39148406-HcUIF.jpgSony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 35mm f/2.5 (£50ish).
TellyLover27/11/2019 18:49

Any cashback on this


£150 cash back for the A7ii if bought from authorised resellers in the UK
sony.co.uk/pro…ack
Note this is from Amazon Spain so you wouldn't get cashback

If this doesn't go to £750 (before £150 cash back) on black Friday I'll be surprised!

Bought it in the summer for £909 with the (then) £300 cash back, bringing it to £609

Highly recommend it for this price. Much better than the A7 (albeit slightly heavier) at near the same price. The jump from A7ii to A7iii was smaller but would be worth it if the A7iii went to about £750 imho
Edited by: "robodan918" 27th Nov 2019
JamesClark199127/11/2019 23:07

However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage …However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage camera lens and use it on Sony's e-mount with a £15 adapter (if you don't mind manual focusing).[Image] Sony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 55mm f/1.2 lens (£200ish).[Image] Sony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 35mm f/2.5 (£50ish).


Great shots but imho the 35mm focal length is not the best for portraits as it tends to over emphasize the middle of the face (which you'll be physically closer to) especially the nose. 50mm is the standard portrait lens, but I've seen some fantastic shots come from the Sony 85mm lens (but at triple the cost of the standard 50mm lens)

Also of note is that the Sony 50mm lens is often about £150, so could be better for those starting out on full frame vs buying canon lenses and adapting them. I imagine you already had those lenses though, but am confused why you wouldn't go with a powered adapter which would allow auto focus and therefore more versatile shooting (I know the cost difference is about £70 but when you're putting adapted glass onto the FF camera imho it makes sense to splurge a bit
Edited by: "robodan918" 27th Nov 2019
robodan91827/11/2019 23:13

Great shots but imho the 35mm focal length is not the best for portraits …Great shots but imho the 35mm focal length is not the best for portraits as it tends to over emphasize the middle of the face (which you'll be physically closer to) especially the nose. 50mm is the standard portrait lens, but I've seen some fantastic shots come from the Sony 85mm lens (but at triple the cost of the standard 50mm lens)


39148485-bTRPm.jpgThe Sony 85mm 1.8 FE is also a superb lens. The best "budget" Sony prime for the system in my opinion.
JamesClark199127/11/2019 23:15

[Image] The Sony 85mm 1.8 FE is also a superb lens. The best "budget" …[Image] The Sony 85mm 1.8 FE is also a superb lens. The best "budget" Sony prime for the system in my opinion.


Great example of what I was talking about - thanks
Whammerhead27/11/2019 19:21

It'll probably drop to £744 on BF and be considered (by Amazon) as a great …It'll probably drop to £744 on BF and be considered (by Amazon) as a great deal


After £150 cash back that seems good to me

It matches the deal earlier this year where I bought mine for £609 after cashback

Front end discounts (cash back to customer) make more sense in the 'deal driven' British and American markets than back end discounts (for retailers, before selling the product) which play better in the 'less fuss' EU market
JamesClark199127/11/2019 23:07

However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage …However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage camera lens and use it on Sony's e-mount with a £15 adapter (if you don't mind manual focusing).[Image] Sony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 55mm f/1.2 lens (£200ish).[Image] Sony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 35mm f/2.5 (£50ish).



Yeah, I know. I've got quite a few manual lenses myself. I was guessing the the person asking the question would prefer AF lenses starting out on the Sony if they decided to go down that route.
robodan91827/11/2019 23:20

After £150 cash back that seems good to meIt matches the deal earlier this …After £150 cash back that seems good to meIt matches the deal earlier this year where I bought mine for £609 after cashbackFront end discounts (cash back to customer) make more sense in the 'deal driven' British and American markets than back end discounts (for retailers, before selling the product) which play better in the 'less fuss' EU market



£150 doesn't apply to A7ii, only A7iii
robodan91827/11/2019 23:13

Great shots but imho the 35mm focal length is not the best for portraits …Great shots but imho the 35mm focal length is not the best for portraits as it tends to over emphasize the middle of the face (which you'll be physically closer to) especially the nose. 50mm is the standard portrait lens, but I've seen some fantastic shots come from the Sony 85mm lens (but at triple the cost of the standard 50mm lens)Also of note is that the Sony 50mm lens is often about £150, so could be better for those starting out on full frame vs buying canon lenses and adapting them. I imagine you already had those lenses though, but am confused why you wouldn't go with a powered adapter which would allow auto focus and therefore more versatile shooting (I know the cost difference is about £70 but when you're putting adapted glass onto the FF camera imho it makes sense to splurge a bit


He's using really old(60s) FL mount manual lens, the only way to go down to f1.2 for around £200, any modern autofocus lenses are £500-600+ used.
Whammerhead28/11/2019 00:03

£150 doesn't apply to A7ii, only A7iii


Ah they changed it since I looked last promo

Dang, well it looks like they won't be selling any A7ii bodies this winter
pwel28/11/2019 00:12

He's using really old(60s) FL mount manual lens, the only way to go down …He's using really old(60s) FL mount manual lens, the only way to go down to f1.2 for around £200, any modern autofocus lenses are £500-600+ used.


Interesting... Does such an old lens have the resolving power to take full advantage of the 24MP sensor?
robodan91828/11/2019 00:19

Interesting... Does such an old lens have the resolving power to take full …Interesting... Does such an old lens have the resolving power to take full advantage of the 24MP sensor?


Probably not, but at 1.2 even the modern ones are quite soft...but it's all about the bokeh balls(as Kai would say ) and that dreamy look...worth buying one, it's good fun, there are old canons, minoltas, zuikos, all around the £200 mark.
JamesClark199127/11/2019 23:07

However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage …However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage camera lens and use it on Sony's e-mount with a £15 adapter (if you don't mind manual focusing).[Image] Sony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 55mm f/1.2 lens (£200ish).[Image] Sony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 35mm f/2.5 (£50ish).


Vintage lenses can be adapted to any of the major makers cameras.
robodan91828/11/2019 00:19

Interesting... Does such an old lens have the resolving power to take full …Interesting... Does such an old lens have the resolving power to take full advantage of the 24MP sensor?


Oh most definitely when stopped down. Wide open at let's say f/1.4 some are very good (e.g. Canon FD 50mm 1.4 £100) but it's more about adding character at a wide aperture like that. But pretty much ANY vintage lens stopped down to about 2.8 or further will be 90% as sharp as a modern lens. But you also have to consider that sharpness isn't the only characteristic you want in a lens. Don't fall for the new lens marketing hype, for the price of one modern prime you can get a whole set of vintage lenses.

Sony FE 85mm f/1.8 - £500

VS

Canon FD 28mm f/2.8 - £40
Canon FL 35mm f/2.5 - £50
Canon FL 55mm f/1.2 - £200
Canon FD 70-210mm F/4 - £40
Canon FL 135mm f/2.5 - £40
Five FD to E-mount adapters - £75

Total cost: £445


39151095-a7zy1.jpgCanon FL 55mm f/1.2 (£200) on a 42MP Sony A7Rii.

39151095-JWXSA.jpgCanon FD 70-210 zoom f/4 (£40) on Sony A7iii.

39151095-bL0cj.jpgCanon FL 135mm f/2.5 (£50) on Sony A7iii.
JamesClark199127/11/2019 23:07

However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage …However, not many people know that you can adapt pretty much ANY vintage camera lens and use it on Sony's e-mount with a £15 adapter (if you don't mind manual focusing).[Image] Sony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 55mm f/1.2 lens (£200ish).[Image] Sony A7iii with adapted Canon FL 35mm f/2.5 (£50ish).


which adapter did you use please? I have a sony a7 and am looking to buy cheap lenses but not sure which is the best adapter for it to accomdate most 3rd party lens
shivclicks0128/11/2019 12:12

which adapter did you use please? I have a sony a7 and am looking to buy …which adapter did you use please? I have a sony a7 and am looking to buy cheap lenses but not sure which is the best adapter for it to accomdate most 3rd party lens


The best I've tried is the FOTGA FD-NEX adapter (ranges from £10-15).
JamesClark199128/11/2019 08:26

Oh most definitely when stopped down. Wide open at let's say f/1.4 some …Oh most definitely when stopped down. Wide open at let's say f/1.4 some are very good (e.g. Canon FD 50mm 1.4 £100) but it's more about adding character at a wide aperture like that. But pretty much ANY vintage lens stopped down to about 2.8 or further will be 90% as sharp as a modern lens. But you also have to consider that sharpness isn't the only characteristic you want in a lens. Don't fall for the new lens marketing hype, for the price of one modern prime you can get a whole set of vintage lenses.Sony FE 85mm f/1.8 - £500VSCanon FD 28mm f/2.8 - £40Canon FL 35mm f/2.5 - £50Canon FL 55mm f/1.2 - £200Canon FD 70-210mm F/4 - £40Canon FL 135mm f/2.5 - £40Five FD to E-mount adapters - £75Total cost: £445[Image] Canon FL 55mm f/1.2 (£200) on a 42MP Sony A7Rii.[Image] Canon FD 70-210 zoom f/4 (£40) on Sony A7iii.[Image] Canon FL 135mm f/2.5 (£50) on Sony A7iii.


beautiful pics
Whammerhead27/11/2019 20:53

It's full frame for starters~larger sensor, better in lowlight. The Sony …It's full frame for starters~larger sensor, better in lowlight. The Sony glass is probably considerably more expensive than Fuji


Fuji lenses are expensive, like for like there is normally a Sony lens or equivalent cheaper, just as good or better than a Fuji version. Example, the best macro from any maker right now is the Sony FE90mm F2.8 Macro G at £799 after cash back, the Fujinon XF80mm F2.8 R LM is £904 after cash back.. Same goes for a bread and butter portrait lens, the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 only £450, Fuji equivalent XF56mm F1.2 R an overpriced £710 after cashback
They've got a xt20 with a lens refurbished for 400. Only rly want something for quality photos of newborn and video
andyjst28/11/2019 16:37

They've got a xt20 with a lens refurbished for 400. Only rly want …They've got a xt20 with a lens refurbished for 400. Only rly want something for quality photos of newborn and video


wat lens is it? 18-55?
You can adapt old minolta af lenses and sony a mount ff lenses with la-ea adapter for cheaper option or buy techart or fotodiox pronto to adapt manual m leica lenses to become AF or put any other mount adapter to that af adapter, you will be able to use loads of legacy lenses with decent AF.
JamesClark199128/11/2019 12:15

The best I've tried is the FOTGA FD-NEX adapter (ranges from £10-15).


Many thanks. I will look into it 🙏🏼
No idea is those lens are any good mind
wilt27/11/2019 18:41

How much and where are you based?


£1200 or £1300 with the 28-70 kit lens. Based in Lisburn.
tommyni01/12/2019 19:07

£1200 or £1300 with the 28-70 kit lens. Based in Lisburn.


What's the shutter count?
wilt01/12/2019 19:10

What's the shutter count?


No idea not sure if you can check with Sony. I pretty much use it with the silent shutter most of the time so it wouldn’t matter any way.
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