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Sony BDPS300B Blu Ray DVD Player - Only £146.24 @ Empire Direct
Sony BDPS300B Blu Ray DVD Player - Only £146.24 @ Empire Direct

Sony BDPS300B Blu Ray DVD Player - Only £146.24 @ Empire Direct

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Just saw this aswell. Sounds Good to me:thumbsup: Have some Heat!

Blu-ray player prices are falling faster than 3 bedroom semis in a credit crunch. Soon be selling in Asda for £17. Think I'll wait 'til after xmas.

guess mine which i bought part of the sony £699 is gona be worth £100 when i sell it, that'll do me:thumbsup:

About time that Blu Ray players come down to sensible prices, voted hot, but still going to wait until they are under 100 quid before considering getting one as an addition to the HD DVD player.

cicobuff;2872929

About time that Blu Ray players come down to sensible prices, voted hot, … About time that Blu Ray players come down to sensible prices, voted hot, but still going to wait until they are under 100 quid before considering getting one as an addition to the HD DVD player.



Great minds think alike :thumbsup:

It'll never catch on. I'll stick with me Video 2000 thanking you very much.

I've got an HD-DVD player. Not getting one of these until it's around £50.

welsh_andy;2872887

guess mine which i bought part of the sony £699 is gona be worth £100 w … guess mine which i bought part of the sony £699 is gona be worth £100 when i sell it, that'll do me:thumbsup:



I sold mine last week (it was part of the £750 package) for £150 on eBay. About £135 profit, after fees and postage.

Can anyone answer me a quick question:What are the loading times for blu-ray players, my HD-DVD player take about a minute or 90 secs to spin up?

just beware that this player does not support profile 2.0 of blu-ray. A lot of new titles are using this. Also 1.0 & 1.1 are slow to load discs.
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GrumpyOldFella;2872831

Blu-ray player prices are falling faster than 3 bedroom semis in a credit … Blu-ray player prices are falling faster than 3 bedroom semis in a credit crunch.



:giggle::lol:

welsh_andy;2872887

guess mine which i bought part of the sony £699 is gona be worth £100 w … guess mine which i bought part of the sony £699 is gona be worth £100 when i sell it, that'll do me:thumbsup:


Got mine as part of the same deal, sold it on for £130, well chuffed

Are BluRay discs £3 yet :whistling:

I see a lot of this about not being able to upgrade the firmware due to not having a network port. Does anyone know why companies do not offer downloadable firmware updates you can burn to a disc like the old days of DVD player updates?? Seems strange that they cant do it this way as that would be more reliable than relying on a network connection and wouldnt cost them any more.

avsie;2873916

I see a lot of this about not being able to upgrade the firmware due to … I see a lot of this about not being able to upgrade the firmware due to not having a network port. Does anyone know why companies do not offer downloadable firmware updates you can burn to a disc like the old days of DVD player updates?? Seems strange that they cant do it this way as that would be more reliable than relying on a network connection and wouldnt cost them any more.



when i bought my sony package the guy said the difference between the 350 and 300 was really just ethernet and newer 300 come with 350 firmware anyway, but he did say i could just pop a disc in to upgrade in future, dunno wether thats true or not though,lol

welsh_andy;2874060

when i bought my sony package the guy said the difference between the 350 … when i bought my sony package the guy said the difference between the 350 and 300 was really just ethernet and newer 300 come with 350 firmware anyway, but he did say i could just pop a disc in to upgrade in future, dunno wether thats true or not though,lol



you can infact update the firmware using a disc, simply download the firmware from the sony site, burn onto cd-r then pop into the blu ray player and bobs your uncle. update takes about 10-15 minutes :thumbsup:

avsie;2873916

I see a lot of this about not being able to upgrade the firmware due to … I see a lot of this about not being able to upgrade the firmware due to not having a network port. Does anyone know why companies do not offer downloadable firmware updates you can burn to a disc like the old days of DVD player updates?? Seems strange that they cant do it this way as that would be more reliable than relying on a network connection and wouldnt cost them any more.



If you're talking about upgrading the firmware to add in new profile features the problem isn't really not being able to update the firmware, it's that the earlier units simply lack the hardware required to run profile 1.1. and 2.0. From memory (i.e. probably wrong) Profile 1.1 requires the deck to be able to decode two audio/video streams at once (picture in picture) and Profile 2.0 requires the deck to have an ethernet or wireless port for access to the internet. There ARE firmware update available as downloads which you can burn to DVD's and apply to the unit but these are bug fixes rather than profile updates.

This specifc unit is meant to be decent but be aware it is an old machine now and is most definately outdated. Also as one of the earlier machines it's fairly large and relativley slow to start up. There also seems to be a bit of confusion as to how best to get this machine to deliver True HD soundtracks which may require a bit of fidling to get it to work.

This price because the S350 is almost upon us - just a matter of days.

Bizarrely... I think the S350 offers less features but it's launch price is just £230 and the picture and sound are better, it will be upgradeable to profile 2.0 just after launch and load times are much, much faster.

The Samsung 1500 is a more modern player than this and can be had for around £170.

I pre-ordered the S350 from amazon a couple weeks back at a price of £193. It has since gone upto £230. So a £37 saving. I avoided the bulky and slow S300. It is common knowledge the S300 was rushed out with a few faults. The S350 is the release as intended plus further advances such as the 2.0 profile capability. You will need a usb drive though and a slim connector as normal ones dont fit through the recess on the player (an obvious ploy to get you to purchase more sony gear me thinks).

Personally I'd wait till the S350 comes down in price before christmas or if you want better sound output wait for the S550 release that will soon follow. I wouldn't touch the S300 unless a further 50% reduced. But still a good find. S350 is out on Friday hence the S300 clearance sales to make room for the new stock (as previously mentioned by PoisonJam)!

Avoid this because the price will plummet in the New Year - in fact the whole technology is probably doomed so avoid full stop:p

why not just pay £100 more and get a PS3 and use it as a media centre?

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BOFH_UK;2874123

If you're talking about upgrading the firmware to add in new profile … If you're talking about upgrading the firmware to add in new profile features the problem isn't really not being able to update the firmware, it's that the earlier units simply lack the hardware required to run profile 1.1. and 2.0. From memory (i.e. probably wrong) Profile 1.1 requires the deck to be able to decode two audio/video streams at once (picture in picture) and Profile 2.0 requires the deck to have an ethernet or wireless port for access to the internet. There ARE firmware update available as downloads which you can burn to DVD's and apply to the unit but these are bug fixes rather than profile updates.This specifc unit is meant to be decent but be aware it is an old machine now and is most definately outdated. Also as one of the earlier machines it's fairly large and relativley slow to start up. There also seems to be a bit of confusion as to how best to get this machine to deliver True HD soundtracks which may require a bit of fidling to get it to work.




Firmware upgrade dont just fix bugs it can be used for example to adjust the laser power,
or add different modes, update the format codec's, unlock the system etc and i would rather burn the firmware straight to dvd and upgrade the machine cause that way it saves so much hassle . . . But i wouldnt go much on sony blue-ray players or sony dvd players if your gonna get a player get a pioneer there the best! !
But If you like Sony then just add extra £100 smackers and get a ps3 - you got a games console then, internet machine and a player, also you can upgrade via internet or update patches if your worried. . .

robcawsey;2873370

Can anyone answer me a quick question:What are the loading times for … Can anyone answer me a quick question:What are the loading times for blu-ray players, my HD-DVD player take about a minute or 90 secs to spin up?


A friend has one of these and it is verrrrry slooooow to load. It varies with each disc but one in particular takes nearly 5 minutes.

robcawsey;2873370

Can anyone answer me a quick question:What are the loading times for … Can anyone answer me a quick question:What are the loading times for blu-ray players, my HD-DVD player take about a minute or 90 secs to spin up?


AFAIK they are all very slow at loading apart for the PS3 which starts up straight away, same goes for HD-DVD players they all take a while but the XBOX 360 add-on starts up very quick when used with the XBOX (dont know how quick it is when using with a pc)

pikachu12;2874620

why not just pay £100 more and get a PS3 and use it as a media centre?



It's £100 more (+ extra for a remote)
It's not IR but Bluetooth so I can't use it with my Logitech Harmony Remote or any other universal remote (I believe there is a way round this though?)
It's very ugly (in my own humble opinion, of course) and looks more like a toy than a serious bit of AV kit, like I like my kit to look like
Issues with some units reportedly having noisy fans (seems to be completely random, or down to the fact noise is subjective)
I believe it can't bitstream HD audio formats
Some people don't play games or need/want a media centre so are paying extra for nothing?

I see that suggestion/question a lot and I'm not trying to start an argument here!

The PS3 has many pros but it's not right for some people, hence why Sony make these stand-alone Blu-Ray players as an alternative rather than try to market the PS3 to everyone out there.

Please also be aware that it doesn't support DivX playback.

I know divx is not the latest or greatest of codecs nowadays, however since this unit won't even replace my exsting £50 Sony DVD player then I don't rate it as a bargain.

Purely subjective, and I am completely free from high horses, so pls don't be an a** and start flaming me.

I,m with Pikachu 12, hang on for a bit, get yourself ps3, a blueray player and games console, price of ps3 soon to come down as new 80 gb version is out so 40 gb version in theory should be cheaper by xmas.
Still not a bad find

Just took this from a CNET review:-
Starting with the player on, for both Dead Man's Chest and The Curse of the Black Pearl, it took us 1 minute, 15 seconds just to get an image on the screen, and then a total of 3 minutes, 20 seconds before we could get to the actual beginning of the film--and that's with fast-forwarding through the previews at the fastest speed.

pikachu12;2874620

why not just pay £100 more and get a PS3 and use it as a media centre?




Because some of us use a PC or an Xbox 360 as a media centre, so when the price is right would prefer just to buy a blu ray player.

cicobuff;2878466

Because some of us use a PC or an Xbox 360 as a media centre, so when the … Because some of us use a PC or an Xbox 360 as a media centre, so when the price is right would prefer just to buy a blu ray player.



If your using a pc as a media centre, get one of these - BD and HD-DVD for £67, bargain:thumbsup:

ebuyer.com/pro…985

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cheapskate58;2874565

Avoid this because the price will plummet in the New Year - in fact the … Avoid this because the price will plummet in the New Year - in fact the whole technology is probably doomed so avoid full stop:p




Your a bit of an expert in this field it must be said....

cheapskate58;1450854

Blu-Ray will be dead unless the price comes down, which Sony won't/can't … Blu-Ray will be dead unless the price comes down, which Sony won't/can't allow. Toshiba has nothing to lose with HD-DVD - Dump the technology on the market at bargain prices and the demand for product will follow. Product owners will not turn punters away!!FFS, if there is a demand, you can get anything released. How come vinyl is still around? Demand for it is the answer.The "war" is far from over methinks:p



and another...

cheapskate58;1455583

The Toshiba/HD DVD proposition will be:it's a quality, yet cheap HD … The Toshiba/HD DVD proposition will be:it's a quality, yet cheap HD player, it plays all your existing discs and upscales to HD, and as HD DVD disc prices fall, you'll be able to buy the discs nice and cheap including very cheaply on the "old" dvd format:thumbsup:Sony/Blu-Ray is going to be under severe pricing pressure, which it's not really in a position to do anything about - another Betamax award for the Sony boys:p



hahahaha :whistling:

Lets be completely honest here...that is exactly what would have happened if either:

(1) The 360 could play HD-DVD straight out of the box (i.e. without a stupid add-on drive), or

(2) The PS3 hadn't rescued Sony by automatically giving every hardcore gaming household a free blu-ray player.

I'm certainly not criticising Sony, it's very very clever marketing. However, in a simple Technology vs. Technology fight with pricing and availability taken into account, HD-DVD probably would have won.

It didn't though, so moving on with technology and life should be next on the agenda.

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RyCha;2882877

Lets be completely honest here...that is exactly what would have happened … Lets be completely honest here...that is exactly what would have happened if either:(1) The 360 could play HD-DVD straight out of the box (i.e. without a stupid add-on drive), or(2) The PS3 hadn't rescued Sony by automatically giving every hardcore gaming household a free blu-ray player.I'm certainly not criticising Sony, it's very very clever marketing. However, in a simple Technology vs. Technology fight with pricing and availability taken into account, HD-DVD probably would have won.It didn't though, so moving on with technology and life should be next on the agenda.



A couple of problems with what you say....

Including a built in hd-dvd player would have meant the release of the 360 being delayed for 12 months (hd-dvd drive released a year later) so it would have launched at the same time as the PS3
Including a built in hd-dvd player would have meant the price of the 360 would have been between $498 and $598 - the same as the PS3.
So i think your point is somewhat wide of the mark.. and as for the PS3 rescuing sony, the PS3 wouldnt work without a blu-ray player its not an 'extra'.

N20Y1D;2883641

Including a built in hd-dvd player would have meant the release of the … Including a built in hd-dvd player would have meant the release of the 360 being delayed for 12 months (hd-dvd drive released a year later) so it would have launched at the same time as the PS3



They could have re-launched it, as they did with the 360 Premium, with the HD-DVD drive built in. I think they should have, but doesn't matter now

N20Y1D;2881669

Your a bit of an expert in this field it must be said....and … Your a bit of an expert in this field it must be said....and another...hahahaha :whistling:



Yeah?

HD-DVDs are still selling at bargain prices - they're far from dead yet and plenty of people, me included, have sizable HD-DVD collections.

Right now a few over 200 HD-DVDs to, errr..., zero Blu-rays.

Blu-ray can hardly be classified as a rip-roaring success can it, given the cost of development and payments made to secure the demise of HD-DVD?

Oh, and it should be "you're", not "your".

Idiot:p

cheapskate58;2884683

Yeah?HD-DVDs are still selling at bargain prices - they're far from dead … Yeah?HD-DVDs are still selling at bargain prices - they're far from dead yet and plenty of people, me included, have sizable HD-DVD collections.Right now a few over 200 HD-DVDs to, errr..., zero Blu-rays.Blu-ray can hardly be classified as a rip-roaring success can it, given the cost of development and payments made to secure the demise of HD-DVD?Oh, and it should be "you're", not "your".Idiot:p



Slightly weak argument for HD-DVD there ;-)

Just because you have many HD-DVD discs and no Blu-Ray, how does that prove anything? Only that you don't like Blu-Ray. The fact no new releases are scheduled is what makes it a format with no future (I refrained from saying dead as it still has a market).

Both formats were always going to be slow to get started, as is any new format, including the now hugely sucessfoul DVD format, simply because prices are sky high until the technology matures and becomes cheaper to develop. HD-DVD would have had to have done the same to beat Blu-Ray. But it didn't. VHS had to overcome Betamax. I think someone is just HD-DVD biased :whistling:

At some point or other if you want the latest releases in HD you will have to go for Blu-Ray. It's a shame some manufacturers didn't make a more modern Blu-Ray/HD-DVD combi player (I think LG were the last?). Maybe Toshiba will eventually after they've come out of HD-hiding. Otherwise people with HD-DVD players are going to have to have to keep two disc players around to do the job.

Personally I held out and waited for the war to settle. DVD-HD was the more refined format on launch but I didn't care about that, I just wanted to know which format was here to stay and for everything to settle asap. I have litereally just ordered a Sony DBP-S350 today now that the prices of the players are low enough and load times have been reduced. Discs are still too expensive so I took out a subscription to LoveFilm and won't buy until they come right down. Fixed.

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cheapskate58;2884683

Yeah?HD-DVDs are still selling at bargain prices - they're far from dead … Yeah?HD-DVDs are still selling at bargain prices - they're far from dead yet and plenty of people, me included, have sizable HD-DVD collections.Right now a few over 200 HD-DVDs to, errr..., zero Blu-rays.Blu-ray can hardly be classified as a rip-roaring success can it, given the cost of development and payments made to secure the demise of HD-DVD?Oh, and it should be "you're", not "your".Idiot:p


Well thats a fantastic argument you have put forward there. What can i say....

cheapskate58;2884683

Yeah?HD-DVDs are still selling at bargain prices - they're far from dead … Yeah?HD-DVDs are still selling at bargain prices - they're far from dead yet and plenty of people, me included, have sizable HD-DVD collections.Right now a few over 200 HD-DVDs to, errr..., zero Blu-rays.Blu-ray can hardly be classified as a rip-roaring success can it, given the cost of development and payments made to secure the demise of HD-DVD?Oh, and it should be "you're", not "your".Idiot:p


Face it HD-DVD is dead, I have a large collection of HD-DVD's to and 3 players but the format is over, finished, dead, caput.... I have all the HD-DVD's that I wanted and wont be buying any more because there are no new releases coming out on HD-DVD (wonder why that is!!!) but I will have to add to my HD collection in future by buying up Blu-Ray discs as I have no other choice, I would have loved to buy The Dark Knight on HD-DVD for £2.99 but thats not going to happen so I will just have to buy it on Blu-Ray instead.

Considering the previous prices this is a good reduction
(tho DVD playback is not that great with this model).

But.........

(and if the Blu-ray fans can come in and comment on every HD DVD listing going then I think this is only fair to point out)

Blu-ray prices are still way too high, both players & movies - especially here in the UK.

Then there's also the matter of their revised 'profiles'
(currently we have 1.0, 1.1 & the supposedly 'final' 2.0.....and there's some sort of 3.0 for audio too).

The profiles themselves relate to hardware differences - which means software fixes will not always be possible.

Then there are the implications of their whole 'security' approach which may threaten every early player
(we already saw a revision with their BD+ - which is only 1 element of the so-called 'protection' they use, there is also AACS & a hardware based water marking system - cause many Samsung owners problems).

In short I think anyone buying any of the early dead models is really taking a big chance - you surely will need firmware support in future and who knows how long that will be provided or even possible given the hardware limitations of the early models.

When they get to sub £100 'final profile' players let me know.

Till then I have 150+ HD DVD movies, downloading & my Sky HD box to provide me with my HD goodies.
No need to risk Blu-ray.

.......which even Samsung (who are only one of Blu-ray's biggest backers) now say has only 5 years left in it -

pocket-lint.co.uk/new…tml

You just come off sounding bitter about HD-DVD failing... :whistling:

Prices are still too high for me, but so were HD-DVD prices until it was announced as a lost cause. HD-DVD prices were great then but I didn't want to be left with another player around just to play these disks and another player to be able to play future releases in HD (on Blu-Ray).

A LoveFilm sub fixes that, much better value than the VHS days of high-street Blockbuster and Global video.

Personally I don't care about all this extra stuff and I'll never connect mine to the net (I'll do any firmware updates via ISO downloads) but obviously some people do.

Adopters of any early tech are bound to get burned. More fool them. HD-DVD failed and early Blu-Ray players were slow, unfinished and expensive. Now is the right time for me to invest and I'm glad I didn't buy into dead HD-DVD and unfinished Blu-Ray players.

Gixxerman001;2892142

.......which even Samsung (who are only one of Blu-ray's biggest backers) … .......which even Samsung (who are only one of Blu-ray's biggest backers) now say has only 5 years left in it - http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/17399/18423/samsung-blu-ray-5-years-left.phtml



I think that the responses on that page say it all.

As for blu-ray being to expensive, heres a lot of discs for under £10 each thehut.com/hut…lse , couldnt get any dvds that cheap in the early days.
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