Sony Bravia KD55X8005 4K Ultra HD LED Android TV, 55" with Freeview HD, Youview & Built-In Wi-Fi £799 @ John Lewis
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Sony Bravia KD55X8005 4K Ultra HD LED Android TV, 55" with Freeview HD, Youview & Built-In Wi-Fi £799 @ John Lewis

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Found 11th Dec 2015
John Lewis have now dropped the price so you can benefit from the 5 year guarantee...

Lots of discussion related to this set but if you arent happy with it then returning should be a simpler process with the great customer service from JL.
Also available from a few others at this price including Richer Sounds but is for in store purchase only...

The KD55X8005C is quite simply, a great 4K Smart TV. Powered by the 4K Processor X1 chip, content is upscaled to its best 4K resolution which brings a stunning quality to all the available entertainment. Android brings all the personalization, intelligence and entertainment of your Smartphone on to the 55-inch screen. YouView is on hand to provide a seven day scroll back TV guide.
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Don't know who wrote that blurb you've copy and pasted but these run Android TV OS not Android. They aren't the same thing.
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brookysm

Don't know who wrote that blurb you've copy and pasted but these run … Don't know who wrote that blurb you've copy and pasted but these run Android TV OS not Android. They aren't the same thing.



Just the John Lewis opening blurb...
I feel so betrayed...
fletchuk

Just the John Lewis opening blurb...I feel so betrayed...


Bloody marketing departments....

is Amazon instant available on this or would one need to purchase a fire stick or Amazon TV device? thanks.
Motionflow XR 200HZ. i would go for 8305 (49 inch) if size is not matter
I think I might bite,are reviews mixed on this set?
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Chigro

is Amazon instant available on this or would one need to purchase a fire … is Amazon instant available on this or would one need to purchase a fire stick or Amazon TV device? thanks.



I believe Amazon Instant is available as an app so no need for a stick etc

Interesting Amazon Video compatibility list below...
amazon.co.uk/gp/…ces
Edited by: "fletchuk" 11th Dec 2015
I bought in on the Amazon lightning deal
Managed to get this for £599 during the Amazon Black Friday sale, and it's an alright TV but not too keen on the Android stuff on top of it, especially the idea of Google monitoring everything I watch but for the price I paid it's alright just wish it wasn't a 50Hz panel.
and meant to say it's a va backlit va panel
I looked at this tv a few times is the va panel an issue?
noiren

Managed to get this for £599 during the Amazon Black Friday sale, and … Managed to get this for £599 during the Amazon Black Friday sale, and it's an alright TV but not too keen on the Android stuff on top of it, especially the idea of Google monitoring everything I watch but for the price I paid it's alright just wish it wasn't a 50Hz panel.



Is it really only 50hz? Someone above mentioned 200hz... im confused
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brookysm

Don't know who wrote that blurb you've copy and pasted but these run … Don't know who wrote that blurb you've copy and pasted but these run Android TV OS not Android. They aren't the same thing.


Sorry, you're wrong. Android TV is a platform on Android OS (lollipop). You can't have Android TV without the OS, hence why this tv runs both by it's very nature. That includes the full range of apps available to any other android lollipop device. the only limitations would be hardware such as GPS, touch gestures etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wik…_TV

Edited by: "vfxuk" 11th Dec 2015
JollyEngland

Is it really only 50hz? Someone above mentioned 200hz... im confused



That's just marketing nonsense most TV's have either a 50Hz (low end), 60Hz (mid range) and 120Hz on the upper end, however most TV manufacturers uss Frame Interpolation techniques (soap opera effect) to increase the number of frames and claim those ridiculous 800/1200/1600 refresh rates.

Fake Refresh Rate Conversion

Most TV's are 60Hz which is fine as you cant really expect more than than on 4K for now, however this model is actually 50Hz panel.
vfxuk

Sorry, you're wrong. Android TV is a platform on Android OS (lollipop). … Sorry, you're wrong. Android TV is a platform on Android OS (lollipop). You can't have Android TV without the OS, hence why this tv runs both by it's very nature. That includes the full range of apps available to any other android lollipop device. the only limitations would be hardware such as GPS, touch gestures etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_TV


No it doesn't! Android wear is also on version Lollipop too but that doesn't run Android apps either! Each build will only run apps designed and passed to work on each format, I have 2 Nvidia Shields that run on Android TV so trust me I know what will run and won't!
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noiren

That's just marketing nonsense most TV's have either a 50Hz (low end), … That's just marketing nonsense most TV's have either a 50Hz (low end), 60Hz (mid range) and 120Hz on the upper end, however most TV manufacturers uss Frame Interpolation techniques (soap opera effect) to increase the number of frames and claim those ridiculous 800/1200/1600 refresh rates.Fake Refresh Rate ConversionMost TV's are 60Hz which is fine as you cant really expect more than than on 4K for now, however this model is actually 50Hz panel.



I think the refresh rates you have put are a little confused, 60, 120 and 240hz dont correspond to what we have in the UK, they are for the US and other parts of the world. The TV's here would have native refresh rates of 50, 100 or 200hz.

But you are right about the inflated values that manufacturers quote as these are based on a combination of the native rate plus interpolation, often actually flashed black regions of the screen which help trick your brain into seeing a smoother picture...

This TV has Sonys Motionflow XR 200hz, but as correctly stated I believe the actual refresh rate is 50hz
brookysm

No it doesn't! Android wear is also on version Lollipop too but that … No it doesn't! Android wear is also on version Lollipop too but that doesn't run Android apps either! Each build will only run apps designed and passed to work on each format, I have 2 Nvidia Shields that run on Android TV so trust me I know what will run and won't!



I also have a shield, and when rooted you can install and run whatever app you like, the issue is most of the apps are designed for touch interface, so they are useless on nvidia shield tv, android TV is just a UI running on android os, google play store filters apps based on your device, once again when rooted you can show all playstore apps and download and install them, but as above they aren't designed for the shield tv so are a waste of time


Edited by: "jayjayuk1234" 11th Dec 2015
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brookysm

No it doesn't! Android wear is also on version Lollipop too but that … No it doesn't! Android wear is also on version Lollipop too but that doesn't run Android apps either! Each build will only run apps designed and passed to work on each format, I have 2 Nvidia Shields that run on Android TV so trust me I know what will run and won't!



Again, your wrong. Android wear is a separate OS which has nothing to do with the Lollipop OS. Wear is compatible with android OS 4.3 (jelly bean) or newer. Wear has a separate app ecosystem.

Android TV isn't a separate operating system, it's merely a tv friendly skin over the underlying Android OS. Again, you can run any app on this tv from the included Google play store we all use in our android handsets and tablets.

Your Shields run on the android tv platform and does indeed have access to the full range of Android playstore apps, you just have to sideload them or you're stuck with the limited nvidia developed and approved apps. And yes, your shield is running on the underlying lollipop OS which nvida have crippled to lock you in to their ecosystem of apps.

pocket-lint.com/rev…box

"As previously mentioned, gaming is a huge focus for the Shield TV and Nvidia's gaming services are front and centre of the experience. While it is at heart an Android TV box, running on Google's TV-centric version of Android 5.0 Lollipop, there are plenty of portals and apps you'll not find on comparative devices, such as the Nexus Player."
I have this TV and I dont seem to experience any bleeding at the edges and I have this mounted on the Wall, Picture quality looks stunning. I have amazon prime so have access to 4k Content which again is fantastic. Full HD content looks even better if you ask me. I have showbox, es eplorer installed and all works great. This is a bedroom TV mind you although its slow to respond to TV channel chnages but for the Sub £600 price paid, I believe its worth it, Wouldnt pay £799 for it though.
This TV will have at least a 60Hz panel with backlight scanning to make it look like a 100/200Hz panel. You cant get native 50Hz LCD Panels in TV's, I've NEVER come across one anyway.
mine still sit in the box after getting it from the amazon lightning deal. Plan to set this up this weekend.

Can anyone confirm if I could lift this up alone to put it on the wall? I'm 5'8
ah_heng

mine still sit in the box after getting it from the amazon lightning … mine still sit in the box after getting it from the amazon lightning deal. Plan to set this up this weekend.Can anyone confirm if I could lift this up alone to put it on the wall? I'm 5'8


You should be able to lift this up yourself, I did mine all by myself.
saayinla

You should be able to lift this up yourself, I did mine all by myself.



Thanks!
I got this on the Amazon Black Friday deal for £599, Great TV even at £799.

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Same as...acquired this through Amazon lightning deal for £599...4k stuff is amazing, android works OK, HD picture is great, SD looks ok(ish)...I'd be happy to pay the £799 asking price if i hadn't got the lightning deal.
how does this compare to the samsung UE55JU6800?

opinions welcome. I got the UE55JU6800 on the previous JL deal for the same price but after receiving the TV have notice clouding on 3 corners.
Sinthdeals

how does this compare to the samsung UE55JU6800?opinions welcome. I got … how does this compare to the samsung UE55JU6800?opinions welcome. I got the UE55JU6800 on the previous JL deal for the same price but after receiving the TV have notice clouding on 3 corners.



I was thinking exactly the same
freakstyler

This TV will have at least a 60Hz panel with backlight scanning to make … This TV will have at least a 60Hz panel with backlight scanning to make it look like a 100/200Hz panel. You cant get native 50Hz LCD Panels in TV's, I've NEVER come across one anyway.



Guys this has a panel refresh rate of 100hz, any Sony product from W8 upwards has a 100hz native panel.
vfxuk

Again, your wrong. Android wear is a separate OS which has nothing to do … Again, your wrong. Android wear is a separate OS which has nothing to do with the Lollipop OS. Wear is compatible with android OS 4.3 (jelly bean) or newer. Wear has a separate app ecosystem.Android TV isn't a separate operating system, it's merely a tv friendly skin over the underlying Android OS. Again, you can run any app on this tv from the included Google play store we all use in our android handsets and tablets. Your Shields run on the android tv platform and does indeed have access to the full range of Android playstore apps, you just have to sideload them or you're stuck with the limited nvidia developed and approved apps. And yes, your shield is running on the underlying lollipop OS which nvida have crippled to lock you in to their ecosystem of apps.http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/135465-nvidia-shield-android-tv-review-4k-and-gaming-meet-in-powerhouse-box"As previously mentioned, gaming is a huge focus for the Shield TV and Nvidia's gaming services are front and centre of the experience. While it is at heart an Android TV box, running on Google's TV-centric version of Android 5.0 Lollipop, there are plenty of portals and apps you'll not find on comparative devices, such as the Nexus Player."


Sorry fella but you know jack! Android Wear runs Android Lollipop, my GWR is on 5.1.1, My Shields are running 5.1. Try sideloading an App that isn't designed to run on them and you'll get a Parsing error every time. I'm not saying that you can't side load some you can, you can also install apps via Googles play store website that don't appear in the play store App on the devices but if the App and hardware don't match depencences then they won't even install never mind run - trust me I've messed around with Android devices for well over 5 years, I know that I'm on about!

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brookysm

Sorry fella but you know jack! Android Wear runs Android Lollipop, my GWR … Sorry fella but you know jack! Android Wear runs Android Lollipop, my GWR is on 5.1.1, My Shields are running 5.1. Try sideloading an App that isn't designed to run on them and you'll get a Parsing error every time. I'm not saying that you can't side load some you can, you can also install apps via Googles play store website that don't appear in the play store App on the devices but if the App and hardware don't match depencences then they won't even install never mind run - trust me I've messed around with Android devices for well over 5 years, I know that I'm on about!



You do realise you're speaking to an android and iOS dev, right? Android wear has a seperate ecosystem. It is BASED ON, but NOT RUNNING lollipop. This is why you can not run wear apps on a lollipop tablet/phone, and why you can not run lollipop apps on the wear device.
digitaltrends.com/wea…es/
There's a reason why people are explaining why you're in error, but you don't want to listen. Stupid is as stupid does!

Edited by: "vfxuk" 11th Dec 2015
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vfxuk

You do realise you're speaking to an android and iOS dev, right? Android … You do realise you're speaking to an android and iOS dev, right? Android wear has a seperate ecosystem. It is BASED ON, but NOT RUNNING lollipop. This is why you can not run wear apps on a lollipop tablet/phone, and why you can not run lollipop apps on the wear device. http://www.digitaltrends.com/wearables/android-wear-update-emoji-gestures/There's a reason why people are explaining why you're in error, but you don't want to listen. Stupid is as stupid does!


Deary me. You do realise android wear jumped from v1.4 to 5.0 simply to align the version numbers to that of the lollipop release? You are seeing android OS build numbers and wear build numbers and assume they are the same. WRONG.
I have a g watch r as my test rig as battery life is better than my moto 360.

Nothing is more enjoyable than watching someone who thinks they know it all preaching absolute garbage as others have also told you.
Edited by: "vfxuk" 11th Dec 2015
vfxuk

You do realise you're speaking to an android and iOS dev, right? Android … You do realise you're speaking to an android and iOS dev, right? Android wear has a seperate ecosystem. It is BASED ON, but NOT RUNNING lollipop. This is why you can not run wear apps on a lollipop tablet/phone, and why you can not run lollipop apps on the wear device. http://www.digitaltrends.com/wearables/android-wear-update-emoji-gestures/There's a reason why people are explaining why you're in error, but you don't want to listen. Stupid is as stupid does!


And Android TV is based on but not running Android OS just the same, not as extreme or as cut back as Lollipop on Wear is but it is a different fork! You can claim to be all you want to be fella but I have the devices, I've been using the devices and I know what I can and can't do with them!

Jesus Christ.....
vfxuk

Deary me. You do realise android wear jumped from v1.4 to 5.0 simply to … Deary me. You do realise android wear jumped from v1.4 to 5.0 simply to align the version numbers to that of the lollipop release? You are seeing android OS build numbers and wear build numbers and assume they are the same. WRONG. I have a g watch r as my test rig as battery life is better than my moto 360.Nothing is more enjoyable than watching someone who thinks they know it all preaching absolute garbage as others have also told you.


Yeah OK smart ass! Try installing TV.addons build of Kodi onto a Android TV device, try running ITV Hub on one, have a go at sticking your banking App on it along with the Spotify App too while your at it!

It's just the same Lollipop remember....
Hi. What's occuring
brookysm

Yeah OK smart ass! Try installing TV.addons build of Kodi onto a Android … Yeah OK smart ass! Try installing TV.addons build of Kodi onto a Android TV device, try running ITV Hub on one, have a go at sticking your banking App on it along with the Spotify App too while your at it!It's just the same Lollipop remember....



Just read this thread but out of interest and judging by your last comment . Tv addons wont work on a TV running android so what version would you recommend? Thanks in advance mbuddy got the 1080p 805 the other day and tried putting tv addons on it and couldnt get it working so.... Any help appreciated.
Edited by: "mivanpy" 11th Dec 2015
mivanpy

Just read this thread but out of interest and judging by your last … Just read this thread but out of interest and judging by your last comment . Tv addons wont work on a TV running android so what version would you recommend? Thanks in advance mbuddy got the 1080p 805 the other day and tried putting tv addons on it and couldnt get it working so.... Any help appreciated.


Most Android based 'TV boxes' will run most apps in some way, shape or form, some apps won't like it and some will misbehave. The problem is actual Android TV devices have been locked down quite heavily to ensure that everything than is available on the Play store App running on them works 100% with the device its on. No doubt in 12 months time the situation will be much better just like it was when Tablets were introduced running Android but at the moment Android TV is, shall we say 'interesting' in getting even popular apps to run on it.
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brookysm

Most Android based 'TV boxes' will run most apps in some way, shape or … Most Android based 'TV boxes' will run most apps in some way, shape or form, some apps won't like it and some will misbehave. The problem is actual Android TV devices have been locked down quite heavily to ensure that everything than is available on the Play store App running on them works 100% with the device its on. No doubt in 12 months time the situation will be much better just like it was when Tablets were introduced running Android but at the moment Android TV is, shall we say 'interesting' in getting even popular apps to run on it.



Again, for the third and final time, android TV is a GUI skin over a fully fledged android OS, same kernels, same software, same ability to install apps from the play store.
Again, for the third time from me, and from others, the only limitations are hardware based such as no touch screen, no GPS, lack of keyboards etc., etc., etc., etc..

You can live in complete ignorance if you so choose, but do not force stupidity on others who need genuine guidance from experts, not someone such as yourself incorrect professing heresy and a lack of actual knowledge as fact.
DLC

Hi. What's occuring



Hi. Just stuff
vfxuk

Again, for the third and final time, android TV is a GUI skin over a … Again, for the third and final time, android TV is a GUI skin over a fully fledged android OS, same kernels, same software, same ability to install apps from the play store. Again, for the third time from me, and from others, the only limitations are hardware based such as no touch screen, no GPS, lack of keyboards etc., etc., etc., etc..You can live in complete ignorance if you so choose, but do not force stupidity on others who need genuine guidance from experts, not someone such as yourself incorrect professing heresy and a lack of actual knowledge as fact.


Aye OK fella, whatever you say!

How are you getting on with your Android TV device then?


Oh yeah thst s right, you clearly haven't got one or a clue what the hell you are on about....
vfxuk

Again, for the third and final time, android TV is a GUI skin over a … Again, for the third and final time, android TV is a GUI skin over a fully fledged android OS, same kernels, same software, same ability to install apps from the play store. Again, for the third time from me, and from others, the only limitations are hardware based such as no touch screen, no GPS, lack of keyboards etc., etc., etc., etc..You can live in complete ignorance if you so choose, but do not force stupidity on others who need genuine guidance from experts, not someone such as yourself incorrect professing heresy and a lack of actual knowledge as fact.



Yep, exactly the same with Amazon Fire Stick, I have installed the 'settings apk' on it so I can enable other bluetooth devices such as my PS3 bluetooth keyboard I pair with it for conveniently navigating the menus in the likes of Kodi.

Brookysm does what he always does best, usually to the degree of personal insult attacks and getting himself suspended, hopefully one of these days for good.
Edited by: "cicobuff" 11th Dec 2015
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