Sony Cybershot W830 20.1MP Compact Digital Camera (Black, Silver, Pink or Purple) - £69.99 - Argos
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Sony Cybershot W830 20.1MP Compact Digital Camera (Black, Silver, Pink or Purple) - £69.99 - Argos

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Found 24th Feb 2015
Effortlessly capture the beauty in every scene with W830 Cyber-shot™. A high-resolution 20.1MP image sensor works with built-in autofocus to ensure sharp, finely detailed results even when the actions fast. Intelligent Auto, automatically adjusts the camera settings to suit your shooting conditions. You get fast, beautifully exposed results without the added complications of manual controls. Optical SteadyShot reduces the effects of little movements and shakes and shifts elements in the lens to compensate, keeping every still and movie sharp and clear.

Model number DSCW830B.CEH

Product specification:

20.1 megapixels.
8x optical zoom.
64x digital zoom.
2.7in LCD screen.
Continuous shooting up to 0.8 frames per second.
Face detection up to 8 faces.
Image stabilisation.
Red eye reduction.
Features:

720p high definition video capture and playback with sound.
Maximum ISO 3200.
Intelligent scene mode.
Blink detection.
Self timer.
Built-in flash.
Memory card compatability:

SD, SDHC, SDXC, Memory Stick Pro Duo, compact flash.
General information:

Size H5.25, W9.31cm.
Weight 104g.
Depth 9.31cm (when switched off).
Colour: black.
Includes USB cable, AV cable, carry strap.
EAN: 4905524972450

43 Comments

Original Poster Editor

Price was showing £64.99 at Amazon, who are now out of stock on all colours, so I can only guess this was a price match with the Argos voucher (ended 22nd) the cheapest now is £84.99 for the pink one.

I have had a dsc-w270 for a good few years (12.1MP) and it has been excellent. I was tempted to upgrade but my current model more than meets my current needs. Compact, easy use, good battery life, good video function, good zoom, good quality images - for a point and shoot the cybershots are hard to beat. Hot from me.

diamond321

Not great reviews … Not great reviews http://www.digitalversus.com/digital-camera/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-w830-p22561/test.html


It does reinforce or imply that for £70 this is an excellent camera. This is another outstanding , recommended camera review with a score of 83%. Anyway, what camera you know that I can buy for £70 that's to your liking with great reviews?
Edited by: "splender" 24th Feb 2015

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Bit redundant these days with everyone having a camera on their phone.

Musician

Bit redundant these days with everyone having a camera on their phone.


Great, everyone should go out and get one of these instead.... amazon.co.uk/PAN…YJ6

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anewman

Great, everyone should go out and get one of these instead.... … Great, everyone should go out and get one of these instead.... http://www.amazon.co.uk/PANASONIC-CAMERA-DMC-CM1-FACTORY-UNLOCKED/dp/B00R3D8YJ6



There's always one... Missing the point entirely, most people just snap a few selfies or snaps of their kids and have their phone cameras in their pocket all the time. If someone wanted to take High End zoom shots of distant aircraft , or landscapes etc I'm sure most photographers wouldn't opt for a cybershot. You understand better now ?

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Musician

There's always one...



Exactly.

Posted a month ago - same price, Argos at eBay... so basically a duplicate

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pavel76

Posted a month ago - same price, Argos at eBay... so basically a duplicate



Basically? Is it or isn't it?

Cold, not a £1000 SLR.
Kidding, just bought one for my mum Cheers Buzz.

These are fantastic point and shoots and will wipe the floor with most phone cameras!
Voted HOT!

It should be treated as a repost in my opinion.
Whats the diffrence from previous post at Argos/ebay?... Op should check 2nd comment from previous post. I cannot see aby reason for posting this(apart from amount od posts in mind) if been this price at both Argos stores for very long time

My usual camera is a Nikon DSLR and I wanted something small and pocket sized to take out walking with me. After buying the W830 and spending a day with it, I returned it to Argos for a refund. This was a couple of weeks ago. My Galaxy Note 3 camera performs better and the images much clearer. It was a total waste of money and put me off Sony cameras for life.

On full auto, the image stabilisation was shockingly bad, a criticism levelled at this camera in a couple of reviews online, that I ignored initially. Even in full daylight, the colours were under saturated and looked very washed out. Viewed at 100%, they were so pixelated, they looked like a watercolour painting. The only time I got a half decent shot was using the macro function, but the lighting had to be excellent or noise was evident.

If anyone would like copies of images taken with this camera (taken outdoors using 'intelligent auto') and my mobile to compare, please give me a shout.

EDIT: Here are links to two shots taken at the same time. One with the camera, the other my mobile. I've cropped a tiny bit out of the original photo, zoomed in to 100%. The EXIF data should be intact on both pics. Judge for yourselves. The detail in the camera picture is poor in comparison...
postimg.org/ima…bz/ - Camera pic
postimg.org/ima…ff/ - Mobile pic

Edited by: "leaston" 24th Feb 2015

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pavel76

It should be treated as a repost in my opinion.Whats the diffrence from … It should be treated as a repost in my opinion.Whats the diffrence from previous post at Argos/ebay?... Op should check 2nd comment from previous post. I cannot see aby reason for posting this(apart from amount od posts in mind) if been this price at both Argos stores for very long time



Your not very alert, I was the second post on that thread

I don't see what the issue is, why are you getting so uptight about the situation, I saw the cameras whilst browsing the Argos website this morning, available in 4 colours (which may I point out the Argos/eBay wasn't) I cross referenced the pricing to Amazons (who at the time were similar to Argos) they were in excess of £90, I saw a deal, posted it for others to benefit and now you are getting all hormonal on me.

SuperEd

pavel76

Posted a month ago - same price, Argos at eBay... so basically a duplicate



It's not a dupe i'm afraid. One it's from a different merchant, Argos not Argos ebay same as zavvi / hut deals, also it's over a month old so can be reposted regardless anyway so fine to stay.

Also just to further note users may have Argos vouchers to use to bring down the price further as direct from Argos.

Thanks both for posting
Edited by: "goonertillidie" 24th Feb 2015

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pavel76

It should be treated as a repost in my opinion.Whats the diffrence from … It should be treated as a repost in my opinion.Whats the diffrence from previous post at Argos/ebay?... Op should check 2nd comment from previous post. I cannot see aby reason for posting this(apart from amount od posts in mind) if been this price at both Argos stores for very long time



Does this look like its Argos EBay? Is the other deal even still valid?

leaston

My usual camera is a Nikon DSLR and I wanted something small and pocket … My usual camera is a Nikon DSLR and I wanted something small and pocket sized to take out walking with me. After buying the W830 and spending a day with it, I returned it to Argos for a refund. This was a couple of weeks ago. My Galaxy Note 3 camera performs better and the images much clearer. It was a total waste of money and put me off Sony cameras for life.On full auto, the image stabilisation was shockingly bad, a criticism levelled at this camera in a couple of reviews online, that I ignored initially. Even in full daylight, the colours were under saturated and looked very washed out. Viewed at 100%, they were so pixelated, they looked like a watercolour painting. The only time I got a half decent shot was using the macro function, but the lighting had to be excellent or noise was evident.If anyone would like copies of images taken with this camera (taken outdoors using 'intelligent auto') and my mobile to compare, please give me a shout.EDIT: Here are links to two shots taken at the same time. One with the camera, the other my mobile. I've cropped a tiny bit out of the original photo, zoomed in to 100%. The EXIF data should be intact on both pics. Judge for yourselves. The detail in the camera picture is poor in comparison...http://postimg.org/image/b4ptioobz/ - Camera pichttp://postimg.org/image/df7kjhzff/ - Mobile pic


The irony is, your Nikon will most likely use a Sony sensor.

The issue is most likely that this camera is just poor and designed to fill a spot in the market. The A5100 mirrorless DSLR is superb, and the noise is surprisingly low at high ISO settings (though it is crippled by having less buttons, and no custom quick menu option in the menus). I once bought a Canon Ixus 105 and found that surprisingly rubbish.
Edited by: "anewman" 24th Feb 2015

leaston

My usual camera is a Nikon DSLR and I wanted something small and pocket … My usual camera is a Nikon DSLR and I wanted something small and pocket sized to take out walking with me. After buying the W830 and spending a day with it, I returned it to Argos for a refund. This was a couple of weeks ago. My Galaxy Note 3 camera performs better and the images much clearer. It was a total waste of money and put me off Sony cameras for life.On full auto, the image stabilisation was shockingly bad, a criticism levelled at this camera in a couple of reviews online, that I ignored initially. Even in full daylight, the colours were under saturated and looked very washed out. Viewed at 100%, they were so pixelated, they looked like a watercolour painting. The only time I got a half decent shot was using the macro function, but the lighting had to be excellent or noise was evident.If anyone would like copies of images taken with this camera (taken outdoors using 'intelligent auto') and my mobile to compare, please give me a shout.EDIT: Here are links to two shots taken at the same time. One with the camera, the other my mobile. I've cropped a tiny bit out of the original photo, zoomed in to 100%. The EXIF data should be intact on both pics. Judge for yourselves. The detail in the camera picture is poor in comparison...http://postimg.org/image/b4ptioobz/ - Camera pichttp://postimg.org/image/df7kjhzff/ - Mobile pic


Both images are shockingly bad
But I put this more down to user error than any fault on the camera and phones part!

BuzzDuraband

Your not very alert, I was the second post on that thread ;)I don't see … Your not very alert, I was the second post on that thread ;)I don't see what the issue is, why are you getting so uptight about the situation, I saw the cameras whilst browsing the Argos website this morning, available in 4 colours (which may I point out the Argos/eBay wasn't) I cross referenced the pricing to Amazons (who at the time were similar to Argos) they were in excess of £90, I saw a deal, posted it for others to benefit and now you are getting all hormonal on me.



1. I'm not getting hormonal on you, just want some clear rules.
2. Your comment on previous post a month ago says that this camera is avaible in 4 colours at Argos stores - so you cannot say, that you saw the cameras whilst browsing the Argos website THIS morning:)

PS. ...with all respect for posting many good deals before !

crazylegs

Both images are shockingly badBut I put this more down to user error than … Both images are shockingly badBut I put this more down to user error than any fault on the camera and phones part!


Really? You know all about me and my experience with photography huh? Ok (_;)

Both images are bad, you're right there. One was taken with a mobile and was done purely to show how much worse the camera actually is. Wasn't that obvious from my post? I think you missed the point, but never mind.

anewman

The irony is, your Nikon will most likely use a Sony sensor.


Thankfully, mine is made by Nikon, but I know quite a few of the sensors are Sony.
anewman

The issue is most likely that this camera is just poor and designed to … The issue is most likely that this camera is just poor and designed to fill a spot in the market. The A5100 mirrorless DSLR is superb, and the noise is surprisingly low at high ISO settings (though it is crippled by having less buttons, and no custom quick menu option in the menus). I once bought a Canon Ixus 105 and found that surprisingly rubbish.


I was going to go for a 5300, but have been reading up on the mirrorless models and am interested. I do a lot of night photography, so although it's good to be able to lock the mirror, a camera without would be potentially steadier.

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pavel76

1. I'm not getting hormonal on you, just want some clear rules.2. Your … 1. I'm not getting hormonal on you, just want some clear rules.2. Your comment on previous post a month ago says that this camera is avaible in 4 colours at Argos stores - so you cannot say, that you saw the cameras whilst browsing the Argos website THIS morning:)PS. ...with all respect for posting many good deals before !



Without spamming the thread with the same pointless conversation mate, it has always been clear that Argos and Argos eBay are regarded as two separate retailers, Your right, I did mention the four colours in the previous thread, but as explained in comment number one the pricing on Amazon had increased by £20(ish) when I saw these (again) on the Argos website this morning (Amazon now have the pink available for £79).

In theory, although I wouldn't do it, I could have posted the Argos eBay thread at the same time I posted this as it had been over a month since that threads creation, thus making it a non reposted item

I apologise if my posting this deal has agitated you as it wasn't my intention, quite the opposite to be honest, thank you for the kind words regarding my previous posts.

Love and Kisses
Mr B. Duraband
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A mobile phone is always in your pocket and the best camera is the one you have, in which case there's no point in buying a camera since you already have a mobile phone. That is unless you are carrying a camera with you which means it by default becomes better than your mobile phone at taking pictures.

Hot.

leaston

Really? You know all about me and my experience with photography huh? Ok … Really? You know all about me and my experience with photography huh? Ok (_;)Both images are bad, you're right there. One was taken with a mobile and was done purely to show how much worse the camera actually is. Wasn't that obvious from my post? I think you missed the point, but never mind.


Crazylegs may have a point, this is an example of a good review of this camera which score it 83% for its money's worth. I have similar cheap and cheerful cameras from Panasonic and Fuji , a few years' ago now, but I think Crazylegs may be right as this camera seems to be much more capable than the shot(s) that you took to illustrate your point.

splender

Crazylegs may have a point, this is an example of a good review of this … Crazylegs may have a point, this is an example of a good review of this camera which score it 83% for its money's worth. I have similar cheap and cheerful cameras from Panasonic and Fuji , a few years' ago now, but I think Crazylegs may be right as this camera seems to be much more capable than the shot(s) that you took to illustrate your point.


I charged it up, set to auto, pointed and clicked. I've never seen such poor shots from even a cheap compact before. The EXIF data is telling. At ISO 80 in broad daylight it should have been half decent a picture, irrespective of who was behind the lens. Hey ho, it must be me.

Is this water proof ?

leaston

I charged it up, set to auto, pointed and clicked. I've never seen such … I charged it up, set to auto, pointed and clicked. I've never seen such poor shots from even a cheap compact before. The EXIF data is telling. At ISO 80 in broad daylight it should have been half decent a picture, irrespective of who was behind the lens. Hey ho, it must be me.


You may also be right, as these are click and shoot, other than perhaps push the images through a photo software like Photomizer to optimise the pale or washed out looks automatically to get rich colours and contrasts. Perhaps you had a dud one.

Musician

There's always one... Missing the point entirely, most people just snap a … There's always one... Missing the point entirely, most people just snap a few selfies or snaps of their kids and have their phone cameras in their pocket all the time. If someone wanted to take High End zoom shots of distant aircraft , or landscapes etc I'm sure most photographers wouldn't opt for a cybershot. You understand better now ?




Yep being a semi pro, I would never consider anything like this for taking my photos, and for everything else, I have a phone that takes perfectly good photos, so yep, in most cases these may become redundant, but camera companies are aware of this and that's why we are starting to see more compact cameras with larger DSLR size crop sensors.

Edited by: "Neardark" 24th Feb 2015

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Neardark

Yep being a semi pro, I would never consider anything like this for … Yep being a semi pro, I would never consider anything like this for taking my photos, and for everything else, I have a phone that takes perfectly good photos, so yep, in most cases, mostly in my opinion these are reduntant



Suppose these would be ok in a work place scenario as well, if your work required a basic camera. Also as already mentioned, for granny that can't work a phone to take pictures.
Edited by: "Musician" 24th Feb 2015

Musician

Suppose these would be ok in a work place scenario as well, if your work … Suppose these would be ok in a work place scenario as well, if your work required a basic camera. Also as already mentioned, for granny that can't work a phone to take pictures.




Yep they will always have a place in the market, just not as big a spot as they used to and nowhere close to it

pavel76

Posted a month ago - same price, Argos at eBay... so basically a duplicate



I won't complain as I missed it a month ago!

Musician

Bit redundant these days with everyone having a camera on their phone.


are you really comparing a phones **** camera to this?

The best camera you always have with you ? Your eyes

Ohhh - Should I or shouldn't I? Review makes me want to say yes but leaston's real world experience is pretty shocking.

Can any camera people recommend a compact camera at this price bracket (<£80) which would be good for holiday snaps, simple videos (at least 720p), in both day and night use? I print out some photos in A4 size. My thanks in advance.

Most phone cameras are utter crap, especially the blurriness causes by lack of image stabilisation.

Depends what you want it for I suppose.

Why oh why did I just purchase a camera like a month ago....

leaston

My usual camera is a Nikon DSLR and I wanted something small and pocket … My usual camera is a Nikon DSLR and I wanted something small and pocket sized to take out walking with me. After buying the W830 and spending a day with it, I returned it to Argos for a refund. This was a couple of weeks ago. My Galaxy Note 3 camera performs better and the images much clearer. It was a total waste of money and put me off Sony cameras for life.On full auto, the image stabilisation was shockingly bad, a criticism levelled at this camera in a couple of reviews online, that I ignored initially. Even in full daylight, the colours were under saturated and looked very washed out. Viewed at 100%, they were so pixelated, they looked like a watercolour painting. The only time I got a half decent shot was using the macro function, but the lighting had to be excellent or noise was evident.If anyone would like copies of images taken with this camera (taken outdoors using 'intelligent auto') and my mobile to compare, please give me a shout.EDIT: Here are links to two shots taken at the same time. One with the camera, the other my mobile. I've cropped a tiny bit out of the original photo, zoomed in to 100%. The EXIF data should be intact on both pics. Judge for yourselves. The detail in the camera picture is poor in comparison...http://postimg.org/image/b4ptioobz/ - Camera pichttp://postimg.org/image/df7kjhzff/ - Mobile pic



Your Galaxy Note 3 has a Sony camera (front facing is Samsung) so don't be too down on Sony

You'd be hard put to find a sub £100 camera that could better it in decent light.

It's worth noting that if you're going to view images from a camera with a high mp count and tiny sensor at 100% they will look a mess - compare for instance images from the Galaxy Note 3 (13mp) and Galaxy Note 4 (16mp) and you'll see the effect; but viewed at the same size the Note 4 images generally look better.

I'm surprised you found the W830 quite so bad; especially as Cameralabs gave it a good review, they're usually reliable; so maybe yours was a dud.

cricketchris

The best camera you always have with you ? Your eyes



Really? Does your head have a printer port to print that image or do you have wifi in your ears to upload directly to Facebook, The best camera you have is the one you have with you is the saying, not your eyes lol
Edited by: "Neardark" 25th Feb 2015

I am sure they had these (might of been a lower model though) in Best buy in NYC for the equivalent of £30, I should of got one.
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