Sony KD-65XE9005 65" 4K HDR LED Television Incl 5 year warranty @ Crampton and Moore
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Sony KD-65XE9005 65" 4K HDR LED Television Incl 5 year warranty @ Crampton and Moore

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Found 30th Nov
This looks like a good deal to me for what also seems to be a very well regarded TV. All other prices from reputable retailers appear to be around £200 more.

There is also the potential of a small amount of cashback through Quidco or Topcashback.
I wish I had the cash as I'd love to have this TV in my living room.

Price also includes a 5 year guarantee (not sure how much cover this includes though).


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The 9 series is Sonys best TV's this year.

It will have better specifications like better blacks, colours, motion rate etc..

In particular this 9005 model has Full Array Local Dimming (FALD), which is an advanced technology and means individual sections of the backlight will turn on and off independently giving you better blacks.

So if you had a white moon in the middle of the screen in a black background, only the panel area around the moon would light up behind it.

An edge lit TV would have to send the light from the sides of the panel to reach the moon resulting in some blooming, youd get a white glow around the moon stretching from where the light is coming from.
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Although its the 65" model and too big for me, any price drops are welcome as it can only help to push down the prices of the models below it, namely the 55"!

This or an OLED 55 inch? I've got 4k non HDR and want something to make use of my Xbox One X features. Anyone have this already?

a1231232 m ago

Although its the 65" model and too big for me, any price drops are welcome …Although its the 65" model and too big for me, any price drops are welcome as it can only help to push down the prices of the models below it, namely the 55"!


They had the 65" 7002 for £1078 @ Costco till last weekend. As this is the 9005 what is better or more premium about it?

Wish this was the 75XE94xx. I have been hoping for that for months...

Good price though, for a good TV.

The 9 series is Sonys best TV's this year.

It will have better specifications like better blacks, colours, motion rate etc..

In particular this 9005 model has Full Array Local Dimming (FALD), which is an advanced technology and means individual sections of the backlight will turn on and off independently giving you better blacks.

So if you had a white moon in the middle of the screen in a black background, only the panel area around the moon would light up behind it.

An edge lit TV would have to send the light from the sides of the panel to reach the moon resulting in some blooming, youd get a white glow around the moon stretching from where the light is coming from.

Is this the 8 bit model?

The KD65XE8596BU is £1095 + 50 quid postage on TPS. That’s the price with Cashback but the Cashback apparently is paid back to your credit card before delivery. I can’t decide between the one in this post or the cheap one from TPS

wildswan38 m ago

They had the 65" 7002 for £1078 @ Costco till last weekend. As this is …They had the 65" 7002 for £1078 @ Costco till last weekend. As this is the 9005 what is better or more premium about it?


HDR support would be the biggie. The XE70 doesn't have any HDR hardware to speak of, while this is regarded as the best HDR TV at the price.
Rips17 m ago

Is this the 8 bit model?


I've no idea, but it doesn't matter. You won't get a better HDR TV for the price.

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ubruk12 m ago

£1,569 …£1,569 herehttps://www.powerdirect.co.uk/index.php/sony-kd65xe9005bu-65-4k-hdr-smart-android-slim-led-tv-xr-1000hz.html?___SID=U


Good price but I'd be wary.... stock is listed as "Special Delivery", that may mean it's not regularly available or you might have to wait. It's worth looking into though for a £30 saving, plus C&M may price match.

Buy anywhere else, but don't buy from these Crampton & Moore cowboys
Be prepared for them to ask you to buy the item over the phone and tell you that the figures may appear differently on the invoice, so that they can claim any cash incentives from the Manufacturers themselves....

Oh yeah, don't expect any aftersales either... God awful company, just go check trustpilot and google

In regards to OLED versus this, I think viewing distance is really important in this argument, the OLED will have better picture quality and contrast but if you sit fairly close the size difference is probably more beneficial. Either way you can't really go wrong.

Sharpharp10 m ago

Buy anywhere else, but don't buy from these Crampton & Moore cowboysBe …Buy anywhere else, but don't buy from these Crampton & Moore cowboysBe prepared for them to ask you to buy the item over the phone and tell you that the figures may appear differently on the invoice, so that they can claim any cash incentives from the Manufacturers themselves.... Oh yeah, don't expect any aftersales either... God awful company, just go check trustpilot and google


I just checked Trustpilot and they have a 9.1 rating from 3147 reviews. Thats rather good!

a12312311 m ago

I just checked Trustpilot and they have a 9.1 rating from 3147 reviews. …I just checked Trustpilot and they have a 9.1 rating from 3147 reviews. Thats rather good!


Surely you're not that naïve to believe all the "paid for" good reviews on there are true? The genuine one which are bad are edged out. For a genuine feel for what they are like see here: reviewcentre.com/rev…tml

No doubt one of C&M minions will start putting +reviews on there as well shortly
Edited by: "Sharpharp" 30th Nov

Sharpharp1 h, 10 m ago

Surely you're not that naïve to believe all the "paid for" good reviews on …Surely you're not that naïve to believe all the "paid for" good reviews on there are true? The genuine one which are bad are edged out. For a genuine feel for what they are like see here: https://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews202367.htmlNo doubt one of C&M minions will start putting +reviews on there as well shortly


You're the one who told us to look at Trustpilot.

I've not bought from them myself but i've seen their name pop up on AVforums which is the go to place for TV and audio discussions and they seem to be respected on there.

£100 more at Currys or John Lewis, so looks "cheap".
currys.co.uk/gbu…tml

Mind you, if it falls under the terms of the Barclays 10% cashback deal, then that would mean £135.92 in cashback if you bought it at Currys, making it effectively £1,563.08.
barclays.co.uk/cur…ck/
Edited by: "Genki" 30th Nov

its the same price at rgbdirect i bought the 55inch version it arrived today i cant advise but the reviews i read this is the best hdr tv at its price point

wildswan4 h, 51 m ago

This or an OLED 55 inch? I've got 4k non HDR and want something to make …This or an OLED 55 inch? I've got 4k non HDR and want something to make use of my Xbox One X features. Anyone have this already?


B7 and this model are some of the best.

Be careful if you go OLED, screen burn still a possibility not covered by manufacturer's warranty.

I recommended the B7 to my mate as he only games a few hours at a time these days, not multiple hours like he used to.

Does the 49 inch XE9005 have all the same features as the 55 & 65 inch models?

I'm looking to get one for the bedroom. Hopefully the price of the 49 drops to around £850 or lower in the next few months

cyclonus105 h, 27 m ago

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-the-best-2017-4k-tvs-for-hdr-gaming_9B7 and this model are some of the best.Be careful if you go OLED, screen burn still a possibility not covered by manufacturer's warranty.I recommended the B7 to my mate as he only games a few hours at a time these days, not multiple hours like he used to.


Thx I do game every day for up to 6 to 7 hrs, like fps shooters that have huds so will probably lean towards the Sony now

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Sharpharp11 h, 16 m ago

Buy anywhere else, but don't buy from these Crampton & Moore cowboysBe …Buy anywhere else, but don't buy from these Crampton & Moore cowboysBe prepared for them to ask you to buy the item over the phone and tell you that the figures may appear differently on the invoice, so that they can claim any cash incentives from the Manufacturers themselves.... Oh yeah, don't expect any aftersales either... God awful company, just go check trustpilot and google


I agree . Don't buy from them. Maybe wait until next years models come out. They can't be much better as they've just about reached the limits of human visual abilities. Consequently manufacturers have a problem. This tv price will fall next year when its rebranded and repackaged. Look at samsungs mu range this year. It's much worse than its ks predecessor but more expensive. Next year they will rebadge the ks and pretend it's a new range and superior to the mu. Of course it will be superior but not a new tv. It's a game to the manufacturers and we are pawns. People these days are terrified of being different so they play the game.

chapoguzman7 h, 43 m ago

Does the 49 inch XE9005 have all the same features as the 55 & 65 inch …Does the 49 inch XE9005 have all the same features as the 55 & 65 inch models?I'm looking to get one for the bedroom. Hopefully the price of the 49 drops to around £850 or lower in the next few months


No, the 65" has more dimming zones.

montana784 h, 22 m ago

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The above equation = Contacting Sony every 3 months when the DPS board fails on this model.

mark62263 h, 47 m ago

Yawn


Whats that supposed to mean? The xbox checks for 10 bit hdr so its an important thing to know when spending this much on a tv?

EndlessWaves2 h, 38 m ago

No, the 65" has more dimming zones.


Thanks for the info.

I just looked up on displayspecifications & it says the 55" has 35 local dimming zones & the 65" has 45 local dimming zones. I can't seem to find anything about the 49" version's dimming zones though.

Will it still be a decent picture? I know it is still a 10 bit panel.

Rips2 h, 43 m ago

Whats that supposed to mean? The xbox checks for 10 bit hdr so its an …Whats that supposed to mean? The xbox checks for 10 bit hdr so its an important thing to know when spending this much on a tv?


There's no such thing as 8-bit HDR, all HDR is 10-bit.

How much of the HDR range a TV can reproduce does vary (between TV and whether it's PQ or HLG HDR) but it's not something that can be meaningfully answered as a bit count.
chapoguzman1 h, 3 m ago

Thanks for the info.I just looked up on displayspecifications & it says …Thanks for the info.I just looked up on displayspecifications & it says the 55" has 35 local dimming zones & the 65" has 45 local dimming zones. I can't seem to find anything about the 49" version's dimming zones though.Will it still be a decent picture? I know it is still a 10 bit panel.


I think the 49" is the same as the 55". Although I'm surprised it's 35, On rtings test it looked more like 20-25.

Whether it's good at HDR depends on your expectations (i.e. how much time you've spent with a high end display) but there's nothing better for the price, the competition has coarser dimming systems.

Does Full Array Backlight Dimming make a huge improvement over standard local dimming zones edge lit TVs have? I know it sounds good on paper but has any one seen it in action compared to an edge lit TV? In theory it should offer the best non-OLED blacks.

EndlessWaves22 m ago

There's no such thing as 8-bit HDR, all HDR is 10-bit. How much of the HDR …There's no such thing as 8-bit HDR, all HDR is 10-bit. How much of the HDR range a TV can reproduce does vary (between TV and whether it's PQ or HLG HDR) but it's not something that can be meaningfully answered as a bit count.I think the 49" is the same as the 55". Although I'm surprised it's 35, On rtings test it looked more like 20-25. Whether it's good at HDR depends on your expectations (i.e. how much time you've spent with a high end display) but there's nothing better for the price, the competition has coarser dimming systems.


I think it should be fine for my casual movie viewing & gaming then. I don't plan on buying another TV for the bedroom (after I buy the 49 inch) for another 4, maybe 5 years.

I know tech will have moved on by then & hopefully the promising "microLED TVs" might be available at decent prices.

chapoguzman2 h, 26 m ago

Thanks for the info.I just looked up on displayspecifications & it says …Thanks for the info.I just looked up on displayspecifications & it says the 55" has 35 local dimming zones & the 65" has 45 local dimming zones. I can't seem to find anything about the 49" version's dimming zones though.Will it still be a decent picture? I know it is still a 10 bit panel.


The 49EX9005 has an 8 bit + FRC panel. Don't buy one if you aren't viewing it head on though as the viewing angles are pretty bad. I'm still seriously considering returning mine as even a slight angle turns the borders grey and makes the contrast bloom. At 1080p - and at the angle I watch it - my old 2011 43" LG blows it out of the water and In my opinion this should of been a £600 set from new.

chapoguzman1 h, 11 m ago

I think it should be fine for my casual movie viewing & gaming then. I …I think it should be fine for my casual movie viewing & gaming then. I don't plan on buying another TV for the bedroom (after I buy the 49 inch) for another 4, maybe 5 years.I know tech will have moved on by then & hopefully the promising "microLED TVs" might be available at decent prices.


I wouldn't expect LED displays to get that small in 4-5 years time. Current state of the art is around 0.8mm pixel pitch - 1280x720 at 50". We may see some Full HD 50" models by then if the shine of 4K wears off but I'd expect it to take longer to achieve parity with LCD and OLED.

The 49" is 8 bit?

Managed to get Crampton and Moore to price match and getting it for £1569 with stock coming in on Friday Powerdirect.co.uk have it at £1569

StonedSte22 h, 58 m ago

The 49EX9005 has an 8 bit + FRC panel. Don't buy one if you aren't viewing …The 49EX9005 has an 8 bit + FRC panel. Don't buy one if you aren't viewing it head on though as the viewing angles are pretty bad. I'm still seriously considering returning mine as even a slight angle turns the borders grey and makes the contrast bloom. At 1080p - and at the angle I watch it - my old 2011 43" LG blows it out of the water and In my opinion this should of been a £600 set from new.



Does it therefore follow that the 65 inch panel in this deal, will suffer the same poor viewing angles as the 49 inch you describe above?
Edited by: "poisondwarf" 2nd Dec

EndlessWaves22 h, 36 m ago

There's no such thing as 8-bit HDR, all HDR is 10-bit. How much of the HDR …There's no such thing as 8-bit HDR, all HDR is 10-bit. How much of the HDR range a TV can reproduce does vary (between TV and whether it's PQ or HLG HDR) but it's not something that can be meaningfully answered as a bit count.I think the 49" is the same as the 55". Although I'm surprised it's 35, On rtings test it looked more like 20-25. Whether it's good at HDR depends on your expectations (i.e. how much time you've spent with a high end display) but there's nothing better for the price, the competition has coarser dimming systems.


Sorry I should of been more clear, I mean the xbox checks for 10 bit & hdr so its important to know if you're spending this much on a tv.

Rips1 h, 38 m ago

Sorry I should of been more clear, I mean the xbox checks for 10 bit & hdr …Sorry I should of been more clear, I mean the xbox checks for 10 bit & hdr so its important to know if you're spending this much on a tv.


Every 65" and smaller TV at this price can accept that signal from the Xbox and will pass those checks.

wildswan30th Nov

This or an OLED 55 inch? I've got 4k non HDR and want something to make …This or an OLED 55 inch? I've got 4k non HDR and want something to make use of my Xbox One X features. Anyone have this already?


OLED every day of the week. I recently went back to my old Samsung TV whilst my B7 was being replaced, and it was night and day difference. I'll never go back to LED again, FALD or not.
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