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Sony NW-A45 3.1 Inch Touch Display High Resolution Audio Walkman 16 GB, 45 Hours Battery Life - Black / Gold / Green £113.50 @ Amazon

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Designed to fit your life effortlessly, the NW-A45 series has been refreshed with the range of h.ear colours to sync with your style. This Walkman allows you to enjoy sound from high-resolution audio and improved Bluetooth streaming with LDAC, the result is enhanced wireless listening with higher than CD quality sound so it feels like the artist is performing right in front of you. The 3.1 Inch screen is touch-sensitive, allowing you to access functions simply by touching the icon. The NW-A45 has up to 45 hours battery life and 16 GB internal memory that can also be extended via micro SD slot.

Audio Playback

AAC ( .mp4, .m4a, .3gp): 6-320kbps / 8-48kHz

APE ( .ape): 8, 16, 24bit / 8-192kHz (Fast, Normal, High)

Apple Lossless ( .mp4, .m4a): 16, 24bit / 8-192kHz

DSD ( .dsf, .dff): 1bit / 2.8224, 5.6448, 11.2896 MHz (Audio that is converted to Linear P cm is output.)

FLAC ( .flac): 16, 24bit / 8-192kHz

HE-AAC ( .mp4, .m4a, .3gp): 32-144kbps / 8-48kHz

MP3 ( .MP3): 32 - 320kbps (Supports variable bitrate (VBR) ),/ 32, 44.1, 48kHz

WAV ( .wav): 16, 24, 32bit (Float/Integer) / 8-192kHz

WMA ( .WMA): 32 - 192kbps (Supports variable bitrate (VBR) ),/ 44.1kHz
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Master_Yoda21/12/2019 05:19

Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has …Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has long goneMy Samsung phone (S10 Plus) has Atmos and supports: AAC, MP3, M4A, 3GA, OGG, OGA, WAV, AMR, AWB, WMA, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTX, OTA, APE, RTTTL, DSF, DFF


So instead of the £113.50 player get a £900 phone. You should post that as a deal
Edited by: "Pondlife" 21st Dec 2019
I’d rather not run down and degrade my phone battery personally. Great little player.
Have this. Great little DAP with efficient cans. Drag and drop file system which is great if the meta-data is present and correct. Sony's Music Center software is less than intuitive in my opinion. Gains over an iPhone using low bit-rate compressed audio will be down to the Sony's better amp stage. On full-fat or Hi-Res audio the difference will be obvious to those whom appreciate the difference. I find the battery life much less than quoted. I use it with various IEMs and Senn HD630's to great success. It wont drive 600 or 650's. Would definitely buy again at £100.
with all the pendantry flying around in the comments, I'm amazed that no-one has mentioned that it's actually £113 AND FIFTY PENCE
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on the basis that these are 109 quid but refurbed on the Sony site, 113 seems decent although Im sure on the Sony refurb site they use to be 79 quid
rodney_jxl21/12/2019 00:19

on the basis that these are 109 quid but refurbed on the Sony site, 113 …on the basis that these are 109 quid but refurbed on the Sony site, 113 seems decent although Im sure on the Sony refurb site they use to be 79 quid


The old time machine comment coming up...
They have also recently put out a nice 40th anniversary edition, bit pricier at £400 so I will stick with this version I think. Output not great from this newer version when using bigger over the ear headphones but fantastic sound and detail when using headphones that don't demand too much powering.
Will music actually sound £100 better from this or an iPhone on good Bluetooth headphones? Genuine question. Also, why not make it 64Gb ffs? Big difference to utility, small difference to cost
waysan21/12/2019 00:32

Will music actually sound £100 better from this or an iPhone on good …Will music actually sound £100 better from this or an iPhone on good Bluetooth headphones? Genuine question. Also, why not make it 64Gb ffs? Big difference to utility, small difference to cost


Sure and with FLAC supported that 16GB can disappear very quickly.
But, it does support microSD so I suppose that is how they expect people to use it.

It's not just about sounding better but also having a dedicated player which for some is an advantage.
I still use an iPod Classic 160GB because in many ways it's easier to handle than my phone.
Edited by: "PeacePipe" 21st Dec 2019
PeacePipe21/12/2019 00:42

Sure and with FLAC supported that 16GB can disappear very quickly.But, it …Sure and with FLAC supported that 16GB can disappear very quickly.But, it does support microSD so I suppose that is how they expect people to use it.


FLAC is where it’s at
For most people the bigger impact than the DAC and amp (if listening via wired headphones) will be a) the listening environment, so the noises around you and b) the headphones.

Listening at home with studio headphones, then you can start to look at the rest of the chain.
Listening wirelessly and comparing to the latest iPhone will leave little to differentiate.
Have this. Great little DAP with efficient cans. Drag and drop file system which is great if the meta-data is present and correct. Sony's Music Center software is less than intuitive in my opinion. Gains over an iPhone using low bit-rate compressed audio will be down to the Sony's better amp stage. On full-fat or Hi-Res audio the difference will be obvious to those whom appreciate the difference. I find the battery life much less than quoted. I use it with various IEMs and Senn HD630's to great success. It wont drive 600 or 650's. Would definitely buy again at £100.
waysan21/12/2019 00:32

Will music actually sound £100 better from this or an iPhone on good …Will music actually sound £100 better from this or an iPhone on good Bluetooth headphones? Genuine question. Also, why not make it 64Gb ffs? Big difference to utility, small difference to cost


On bluetooth, which means a lossy codec as bluetooth is not fast enough to stream losslessly between device and headphones, all things being equal all devices will sound identical. ie aptx hd or ldac headphones run from this, a phone, or a 10 million pound audio supercomputer all appear to the headphones to be identical.

They use smaller storage sizes so that you consider buying a more expensive model, must like with ram in smartphones. it's a marketing issue, not a technical one.
It's a nice player, I put some FLAC files on and some decent 320bit rate albums on and there was no difference to my ears. There has been a lot of tests done and no one can tell the difference so I wouldn't worry too much about FLAC file sizes, they also burn the battery faster, just put a 128gb micro sd which can be found very cheap now and you will have plenty of storage space.
To be fair the old ipod had a fantastic sound I thought with the wolfson dac in but this was in the days when they cost around £300, also the output was very nice for bigger headphones which I find as standard the Sony is weak in that respect. I have had the last five generation Walkmans and even the 2009 version had a bit more weight to it. I had the 1000 X version which was built so well but was laggy, this model is an improvement on that and has the FLAC added also.
Edited by: "Wildcard" 21st Dec 2019
Wildcard21/12/2019 00:51

It's a nice player, I put some FLAC files on and some decent 320bit rate …It's a nice player, I put some FLAC files on and some decent 320bit rate albums on and there was no difference to my ears. There has been a lot of tests done and no one can tell the difference so I wouldn't worry too much about FLAC file sizes, they also burn the battery faster, just put a 128gb micro sd which can be found very cheap now and you will have plenty of storage space.


Most humbly, and not to get into one of "those arguments", but if you cant hear the difference, in sheer dynamic range alone, between say the 24/192 recording of The Last Jedi and it's 128kbs MP3 sibling on a competent player and cans then what does one say?
Edited by: "steveex" 21st Dec 2019
steveex21/12/2019 01:03

Most humbly, and not to get into one of "those arguments", but if you cant …Most humbly, and not to get into one of "those arguments", but if you cant hear the difference, in sheer dynamic range alone, between say the 24/192 recording of The Last Jedi and it's 128kbs MP3 sibling on a competent player and cans then what does one say?


No need even for competent player & cans
steveex21/12/2019 01:03

Most humbly, and not to get into one of "those arguments", but if you cant …Most humbly, and not to get into one of "those arguments", but if you cant hear the difference, in sheer dynamic range alone, between say the 24/192 recording of The Last Jedi and it's 128kbs MP3 sibling on a competent player and cans then what does one say?


I personally would never use low quality 128 bit rate files. There has been a lot of tests done on this and it just seems there is no noticable difference on a lot music genres between a decent 320 file and a FLAC. If it is evident on some albums I would be interested in trying the difference out. I would use some nice headphones.
Edited by: "Wildcard" 21st Dec 2019
steveex21/12/2019 01:03

Most humbly, and not to get into one of "those arguments", but if you cant …Most humbly, and not to get into one of "those arguments", but if you cant hear the difference, in sheer dynamic range alone, between say the 24/192 recording of The Last Jedi and it's 128kbs MP3 sibling on a competent player and cans then what does one say?


Amusing you mention 24/192 when the whole hi-res thing is a scam. You don't need higher than 16/44 and this has been demonstrated both through theory and blind tests. 128kbps is an awful bitrate, easily demonstrated to be inferior to lossless. There's no point in going below 16/44 flac format as it's just the CD quality we've known and loved since the early 1980s. But it's certainly no argument for going beyond 16/44.
Edited by: "SmutBuffet" 21st Dec 2019
I have one, and it sounds excellent with a wired connection. Bluetooth is also very good, especially if you have headphones that have the LDAC bluetooth standard. (Needless to say I have some Sony cans which are easily on a par with equivalent Bose.)

However bear in mind that over Bltetooth any music player will only sound the same as your phone. Assuming there is no intermediate DAC (and why would there be) between the audio bitstream and the bluetooth interface, you're letting your cans do the DAC work. The benefit comes when wired, because then the decoding is done on the device, and the vast majority of phones are inferior to players like this.

For instance, listening on this over BT, you'll get no benefit of the EQ features. Nothing happens. You only get that magic when wired. Again: that is likely to be the same for any music player.

But that's not to say this isn't great. One big upside is capacity. I've got a 256GB card in mine and it's got thousands of FLAC format tracks on. Yes streaming yada yada but I like having it all with me in a format I choose.

Downsides? Always with Sony, the interface and the software. It's functional but every time I want to put the sleep timer on I have to hunt around for it. It is not in an obvious place. There's no podcast support - it'll play them of course, but not index or bookmark them. When, bizarrely, there is a "language study" feature. Battery life is ok, not as long as stated but that may be due to playing FLACs rather than MP3. I might do a test one day.

When they try Sony can make stuff that sounds unbeatable. By far the best-sounding MP3 player I had before this was actually their portable recorder, the PCM-M10 (which did have incredible battery life - 50+ hours of recording with 2 AA batteries). It still sounds magnificent.

But at this price, if you like your music and have the headphones to benefit from it, I'd get it.
Just get a decent phone (...)

The time for needing something like this has long gone

My Samsung phone (S10 Plus) has Atmos and supports: AAC, MP3, M4A, 3GA, OGG, OGA, WAV, AMR, AWB, WMA, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTX, OTA, APE, RTTTL, DSF, DFF
Master_Yoda21/12/2019 05:19

Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has …Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has long goneMy Samsung phone (S10 Plus) has Atmos and supports: AAC, MP3, M4A, 3GA, OGG, OGA, WAV, AMR, AWB, WMA, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTX, OTA, APE, RTTTL, DSF, DFF


I don't think people buy these because of the formats they support.
Master_Yoda21/12/2019 05:19

Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has …Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has long goneMy Samsung phone (S10 Plus) has Atmos and supports: AAC, MP3, M4A, 3GA, OGG, OGA, WAV, AMR, AWB, WMA, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTX, OTA, APE, RTTTL, DSF, DFF



i don't want to give up my iphone for various reasons (apple watch etc) but was looking to get a budget android phone just to use as a music player for flac/etc and also use as a remote control and stuff for various apps via wifi. something around £100 or less, second hand or refurb is fine, but will let me use spotify/tidal/deezer etc and play around with other new apps without lag. no gaming. what do you suggest? wired headphones, but an adapter to 3.5mm is fine if it has no socket. myxduo is great with dual sdxc sockets but it's a bit of a pain to have in my pocket with my iphone, but 2 phones similar size may not be so bad
uni21/12/2019 07:24

i don't want to give up my iphone for various reasons (apple watch etc) …i don't want to give up my iphone for various reasons (apple watch etc) but was looking to get a budget android phone just to use as a music player for flac/etc and also use as a remote control and stuff for various apps via wifi. something around £100 or less, second hand or refurb is fine, but will let me use spotify/tidal/deezer etc and play around with other new apps without lag. no gaming. what do you suggest? wired headphones, but an adapter to 3.5mm is fine if it has no socket. myxduo is great with dual sdxc sockets but it's a bit of a pain to have in my pocket with my iphone, but 2 phones similar size may not be so bad


Well, I had an S7 edge for years before this phone and it was seriously amazing. The prices of them now are crazy cheap for what they can do.
rev621/12/2019 06:28

I don't think people buy these because of the formats they support.


FLAC
waysan21/12/2019 00:32

Will music actually sound £100 better from this or an iPhone on good …Will music actually sound £100 better from this or an iPhone on good Bluetooth headphones? Genuine question. Also, why not make it 64Gb ffs? Big difference to utility, small difference to cost


They could make the memory larger but the SD card slot should be a miles better solution.. either way for this price a large amount of ram would be expected however the bean counters came and nixed the idea.
rev621/12/2019 06:28

I don't think people buy these because of the formats they support.


How is this in any way better than my phone? Why carry more than one device? Makes zero sense to me. People can't live without their phones
Master_Yoda21/12/2019 05:19

Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has …Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has long goneMy Samsung phone (S10 Plus) has Atmos and supports: AAC, MP3, M4A, 3GA, OGG, OGA, WAV, AMR, AWB, WMA, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTX, OTA, APE, RTTTL, DSF, DFF


Most of those formats have no relevance but missing from that list is DSD which is.
Plus this is much smaller and lighter than a phone.

I'd be curious to see how good or bad the software is on this.
Wildcard21/12/2019 01:15

I personally would never use low quality 128 bit rate files. There has …I personally would never use low quality 128 bit rate files. There has been a lot of tests done on this and it just seems there is no noticable difference on a lot music genres between a decent 320 file and a FLAC. If it is evident on some albums I would be interested in trying the difference out. I would use some nice headphones.


I also use super high MP3 encoding bitrates for music, it's indistinguishable for me and I really can tell the difference. (Use high quality encoding presets etc) At that high bitrate, the codec doesn't do that much other than compress the file so I'm more than happy for that smaller file size of 30-50mb per track to 6-8mb.
SmutBuffet21/12/2019 01:27

Amusing you mention 24/192 when the whole hi-res thing is a scam. You …Amusing you mention 24/192 when the whole hi-res thing is a scam. You don't need higher than 16/44 and this has been demonstrated both through theory and blind tests. 128kbps is an awful bitrate, easily demonstrated to be inferior to lossless. There's no point in going below 16/44 flac format as it's just the CD quality we've known and loved since the early 1980s. But it's certainly no argument for going beyond 16/44.


Cd quality was chosen to fit around the 800m mark to simulate a record albums worth of music, it was nothing to do with quality and everything to do with keeping the functionality.
PeacePipe21/12/2019 07:44

Most of those formats have no relevance but missing from that list is DSD …Most of those formats have no relevance but missing from that list is DSD which is.Plus this is much smaller and lighter than a phone. I'd be curious to see how good or bad the software is on this.


People will have their phones with them anyway. So you're going to carry two devices...

Also, I just looked on Samsung's website, and my phone has DSD aswell lol

Ultra high quality audio playback
UHQ 32-bit & DSD64/128 support
PCM: Up to 32 bits, DSD: DSD64/128
Master_Yoda21/12/2019 05:19

Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has …Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has long goneMy Samsung phone (S10 Plus) has Atmos and supports: AAC, MP3, M4A, 3GA, OGG, OGA, WAV, AMR, AWB, WMA, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTX, OTA, APE, RTTTL, DSF, DFF


Also the EQ works over BT I bet!.
Master_Yoda21/12/2019 07:51

People will have their phones with them anyway. So you're going to carry …People will have their phones with them anyway. So you're going to carry two devices...Also, I just looked on Samsung's website, and my phone has DSD aswell lolUltra high quality audio playbackUHQ 32-bit & DSD64/128 supportPCM: Up to 32 bits, DSD: DSD64/128


Unless they are doing what LG does, that may mean possible decoding or whatever, so far as I understand Samsung use the regular android audio stack which is around 16bit/44 and the hardware is the Snapdragon SOC just like everyone on the world.
Edited by: "polarbaba" 21st Dec 2019
Master_Yoda21/12/2019 07:51

People will have their phones with them anyway. So you're going to carry …People will have their phones with them anyway. So you're going to carry two devices..


People!
Not everyone is obsessed with carrying a phone with them 24/7.
When I'm out I regularly carry an ipod and sometimes I will also carry my phone in my backpack.
A music player is smaller and easier to handle also.
Not everyone thinks like you.
PeacePipe21/12/2019 07:55

People!Not everyone is obsessed with carrying a phone with them 24/7.When …People!Not everyone is obsessed with carrying a phone with them 24/7.When I'm out I regularly carry an ipod and sometimes I will also carry my phone in my backpack. A music player is smaller and easier to handle also. Not everyone thinks like you.


Everyone has their phone with them. When you have a decent phone you will never need anything else. You are probably the only person who doesn't have their phone with them.
Master_Yoda21/12/2019 07:58

Everyone has their phone with them. When you have a decent phone you will …Everyone has their phone with them. When you have a decent phone you will never need anything else. You are probably the only person who doesn't have their phone with them.


You missed the point that I do also carry my phone at times. But when I go for a walk I might not and an ipod is much more compact and easier to use for music.
with all the pendantry flying around in the comments, I'm amazed that no-one has mentioned that it's actually £113 AND FIFTY PENCE
sossidge21/12/2019 08:07

with all the pendantry flying around in the comments, I'm amazed that …with all the pendantry flying around in the comments, I'm amazed that no-one has mentioned that it's actually £113 AND FIFTY PENCE


That's not cheap though if you would be better putting that same money towards a decent phone... If this device can do something a decent phone can't, then I'm all ears.
Still good.price those and cheapest...so heat
polarbaba21/12/2019 07:54

Unless they are doing what LG does, that may mean possible decoding or …Unless they are doing what LG does, that may mean possible decoding or whatever, so far as I understand Samsung use the regular android audio stack which is around 16bit/44 and the hardware is the Snapdragon SOC just like everyone on the world.


LG certainly hit the mark with their quad DAC's in the V series of phones. Probably the best sound available from a phone without using USB audio into an external DAC.
Master_Yoda21/12/2019 05:19

Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has …Just get a decent phone (...)The time for needing something like this has long goneMy Samsung phone (S10 Plus) has Atmos and supports: AAC, MP3, M4A, 3GA, OGG, OGA, WAV, AMR, AWB, WMA, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTX, OTA, APE, RTTTL, DSF, DFF


So instead of the £113.50 player get a £900 phone. You should post that as a deal
Edited by: "Pondlife" 21st Dec 2019
These are great, especially for long journeys when you dont want to rely on your phone. Battery lasts ages for me. I got the newer imported one (NW-A55) because it didnt have the sound limiter this one has (thanks EU!). The sound limiter can be taken off these though with a Google.
I’d rather not run down and degrade my phone battery personally. Great little player.
sossidge21/12/2019 08:07

with all the pendantry flying around in the comments, I'm amazed that …with all the pendantry flying around in the comments, I'm amazed that no-one has mentioned that it's actually £113 AND FIFTY PENCE


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