Sony WH-1000XM2 Headphones at John Lewis for £249
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Sony WH-1000XM2 Headphones at John Lewis for £249

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Found 6th May
John Lewis have price matched the earlier deal from Richer Sounds. For anyone who wants the JL 2 year warranty
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Who has bought these and would recommend them? I've heard that they are better than the Bose QC35 ii. Right now I have Audio Technica ATH-M40X and Sennheiser 4.50BTNC so does anyone know how the sound compares?
Would appreciate some feedback on this vs the venerable Bose's too.
OliverYau1 h, 11 m ago

Who has bought these and would recommend them? I've heard that they are …Who has bought these and would recommend them? I've heard that they are better than the Bose QC35 ii. Right now I have Audio Technica ATH-M40X and Sennheiser 4.50BTNC so does anyone know how the sound compares?


Top headphone have a pair myself trust me you can't go wrong plus with the app on your phone you have full control of all the settings of the headphone far better than the Bose QC35 II had a good test for a good while with both headphones and sound wise & Cancellation Sony everytime I also have a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-M50X
Edited by: "jedisteel" 6th May
Most of the professional reviews give the (slight) nod to the Sony's. I chose the Sony's over the Bose. In my opinion (and that's all it is) the only thing the Bose have over the Sony's is "comfort". Not that the Sony's are in anyway uncomfortable, i've been wearing them for hours on end. The Bose "seem" lighter. Possibly a better weight distribution.
The pro's i give the Sonys over the Bose are:

Better build quality.
Better noise cancelling
Much better spec'd
Longer battery life

And i preferred the sound quality, but I think that can be considered subjective on a per person basis. I don't think either puts the other in the shade by distance for SQ

My other headphones are Sennheiser HD630.
jedisteel15 m ago

Top headphone have a pair myself trust me you can't go wrong plus with the …Top headphone have a pair myself trust me you can't go wrong plus with the app on your phone you have full control of all the settings of the headphone far better than the Bose QC35 II had a good test for a good while with both headphones and sound wise & Cancellation Sony everytime I also have a pair of Audio-Technia ATH-M50X


How do the sonys compare to the Audio-Technicas in your view?
Edited by: "sat555" 6th May
Don't buy these if you're planning on using them outside in any wind.
I own a pair of these, been very happy with the noise cancelling. Works really nicely on flights or with noisy neighbors.
matthew188821 m ago

Don't buy these if you're planning on using them outside in any wind.


True, and also on the tube. The pressure changes make the sound go odd. On a plane or in the garden or at work they are about as good as they get though.

Didn't have the weird pressure issues with my old Bose QC25
I have these and they are exceptional especially at this price
sat55552 m ago

How do the sonys compare to the Audio-Technicas in your view?


I don't cause there's alot more going on in the Sony's just straight audio though good price the M40X or M50X can't go wrong
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matthew188846 m ago

Don't buy these if you're planning on using them outside in any wind.


Clearly you don't own these then because i use them outside on a busy main road and on the train and i can't hear anything but my music.....
rprp27 m ago

True, and also on the tube. The pressure changes make the sound go odd. On …True, and also on the tube. The pressure changes make the sound go odd. On a plane or in the garden or at work they are about as good as they get though.Didn't have the weird pressure issues with my old Bose QC25


If you download the app you can change the equaliser and noise canceling settings. I own these and never have a problem with them. They are perfect.
The Sony trumps the Bose easily especially after a simple EQ. best Bluetooth headphones money can buy
Just £150 out of my budget!
They are good. Worth the money but I had the previous version which had the dodgy plastic and put me off. (mdr1000x) make sure 2 year warranty perhaps with a bit of aftercare.
I had the old ones and they snapped at the hinge when I was running for a train when they were around my neck. I went and bought the Bowers and Wilkins PX because Sony after sales support were awful
sweatsandhoods11 m ago

I had the old ones and they snapped at the hinge when I was running for a …I had the old ones and they snapped at the hinge when I was running for a train when they were around my neck. I went and bought the Bowers and Wilkins PX because Sony after sales support were awful

Yep. I.complained about wind issues with mine and the service was minging. Won't ever buy Sony again.
Have heard the actual quality of the headphones isnt up to the standards of the QCs
I’ve had both.

Sonys are very good, better Bluetooth connection than Bose, almost as good noise cancelling (people will say it’s better but I’ve used both for weeks and found Bose slightly better).
Sony’s sound different, more dynamic. But would I say better than Bose? Not really sometimes I preferred the Bose sound.
Bose Bluetooth is rubbish, I’ve now had 3 pairs. With my Pixel 2 phone the phone has to be very close. No such problems with Sony.
However, the Sony I had to send back. I have a big head and they actually hurt my head and jaw. They also get really hot. This is a common complaint. They also don’t look that great fully extended, you look like ‘Metal Mickey’. Note all the pictures by Sony of them being worn are people with really small heads with no extending at all!
So for headphones designed to be used for extended periods they were no good and I have had to stick with Bose which are supremely comfortable.
i also tried the Sennheiser and they were too tight also.
if Sony get the comfort sorted, they’d probably be the best. If Bose got the Bluetooth sorted, it would be an interesting battle
no difference In noise cancelling, sonys prone to snapping and the boss way better quality
also can only pair to one device at a time, whereas Boss pairs to two eg mobile and tablet....
matthew188833 m ago

Yep. I.complained about wind issues with mine and the service was minging. …Yep. I.complained about wind issues with mine and the service was minging. Won't ever buy Sony again.


What did you end up buying instead?
nadeem_sadiq10 m ago

also can only pair to one device at a time, whereas Boss pairs to two eg …also can only pair to one device at a time, whereas Boss pairs to two eg mobile and tablet....


You clearly haven't used them... because you are wrong on both counts and are talking utter rubbish. Sorry to be abrupt but people who come on HUKD and profess to know what they are talking about invariably don't!
sweatsandhoods6th May

What did you end up buying instead?


I have the abn100s but it's the same issue with these if you check online. Great inside but not great outside in wind hitting them. Customer service appalling.
I bought a pair of these in Japan and wore them pretty much non-stop for the 11 hour journey home. I also own a pair of Bose QC25s and found the Sony sound far more dynamic and interesting. I also own a pair of non-NC Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 and currently prefer the sound of the Sony's. Good deal @ £250.
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Adam_Barker39 m ago

I bought a pair of these in Japan and wore them pretty much non-stop for …I bought a pair of these in Japan and wore them pretty much non-stop for the 11 hour journey home. I also own a pair of Bose QC25s and found the Sony sound far more dynamic and interesting. I also own a pair of non-NC Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 and currently prefer the sound of the Sony's. Good deal @ £250.


How are the sennheiser ones? Are the wired version worth £130?
rprp6 h, 30 m ago

True, and also on the tube. The pressure changes make the sound go odd. On …True, and also on the tube. The pressure changes make the sound go odd. On a plane or in the garden or at work they are about as good as they get though.Didn't have the weird pressure issues with my old Bose QC25


I've had pressure issues in every pair of NC headphones I've used, but was worse on the QC 35 and B&O H8
matthew18881 h, 51 m ago

I have the abn100s but it's the same issue with these if you check online. …I have the abn100s but it's the same issue with these if you check online. Great inside but not great outside in wind hitting them. Customer service appalling.


Yea i wasn’t going to spend £200+ on Sony’s again and Bose while looked like the best just didn’t sound as good. Got a great deal on the B&W PX so went with them. Can’t wait to try them out when they arrive
Richer sounds have these for the same price. Any preference on retailers? Don’t Richer Sounds do a 6 year warranty if you register the product with them?
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jedisteel8 h, 15 m ago

Top headphone have a pair myself trust me you can't go wrong plus with the …Top headphone have a pair myself trust me you can't go wrong plus with the app on your phone you have full control of all the settings of the headphone far better than the Bose QC35 II had a good test for a good while with both headphones and sound wise & Cancellation Sony everytime I also have a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-M50X


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I own these, my friend owns the Bose. For sound these are fabulous, also the noise cancelling seems a tad better (but realistically you'll be happy with both). My only gripe is if like me you have bigger ears these can get really uncomfortable after a few hours of listening, they actually hurt... it's hard because you won't feel the discomfort until after prolonged use so trying them on won't really tell but if your ears touch the inside I'm certain you'll also be affected.

Oh, and battery life is amazing, they last me a good 4 days of heavy ish usage
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I have had these for about 5 months and have tried the Bose a few times at work. I would honestly just go with whatever the best deal is. NC is marginally better on the Sonys, I prefered the sound too. While that is a popular opinion, this is still personal preference. Try both pairs before you buy!

The Bose really are the most comforatble. I just spent 9 hours on a flight and the Sonys did me well, but my ears tip towards the large end of the scale and after a few hours I fidget a bit trying to find the sweet spot. Otherwise they are very comfortable (some Bose enthusisats like to take this to mean the Sonys are like wearing a bear trap or something, don't listen to this).

The Sonys have some pretty cool features that the Bose don't, you can place your hand over the right cup to let all ambient sound in and lower your music. I have ended up using this more than I thought I would. If you're going to have a conversation that exceeds a few sentances you'll probably take them off and hang them around your neck, but it's great for listening into something quickly.

The Bose can have two devices connected at the same time, the Sonys will never be able to do this as I understand (older version of BT). I would have liked this feature on the Sonys.

The Sonys support more BT audio codecs, including Sonys own LDAC (now included in Android for free) which should give you up to 990 kbps bitrate for high quality music. It's worth noting that this is one of those thing where chasing higher specs might be unnecessary if you can't tell the difference. I use Spotify for example, the max bitrate is currently 320 kbps so LDAC is lost on me.

Small amounts of wind is totally fine, when it get's a bit heavier you'll hear it crackling the NC mics. Can't comment on the Bose.

Battery is amazing on the Sonys.

I bought these for about £280 and I'm chuffed to bits with them.

If someone is telling you that one of these headsets is massively superior to the other then they are massively biased and you should seek advice elsewhere.

Last bit of advice, if you haven't tried NC headphones before don't let anyone get your expectations too high. They are really quite good at what they do, but they do not turn off the sound from the outdside world. It's like they turn everything down to a more muted level, combine that with music and you'll then be isolated from the outside.

Edit: Forgot to mention, the Bose gave me the "air cabin pressure" feeling with the NC turned on. I don't get this at all with the Sonys. If you're in a very quiet environment you might hear a slight hissing with the NC on the Sonys, but this is only noticeable in situations where you don't need to be using NC anyway.
Edited by: "whispergold" 6th May
Good price, I paid £279 for mk1's, my friend at work bough mk2's and in direct comparison they are little bit heavier or at least that is what he seems to think, may be to to do with longer battery life, other than that they look identical physically. Another friend of mine got QC 35's and I think QC35's have a slightly better noise cancelling and are little larger than Sony's cans. If I didn't hsve my mark 1's I would go for the mk 2's
Got the Bose from p20 pro deal but when I was looking to buy I really liked the b&w px thought they sounded the best of the 3
I got the Bose last week and am very happy with them, but then again I've never spent more than £50 on a pair of cans. I got them free with my Huawei P20 Pro. Extremely light and good sound.
Far better than the Bose, in ALL respects other than comfort.

I swapped from Bose to these.
These are very good but check out the bowers and Wilkins px as well. They've a slightly more item sound stage but are £100 more. These have better sound cancelling and very happy with mine.
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