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Sony Xperia E1 with £10 PAYG credit £79.95 but after TCB £6.82 this unlocked mobile's really costing you £63.13 @ Phones4U - you also get a free Sony bluetooth headset worth £25
Sony Xperia E1 with £10 PAYG credit £79.95 but after TCB £6.82 this unlocked mobile's really costing you £63.13 @ Phones4U - you also get a free Sony bluetooth headset worth £25

Sony Xperia E1 with £10 PAYG credit £79.95 but after TCB £6.82 this unlocked mobile's really costing you £63.13 @ Phones4U - you also get a free Sony bluetooth headset worth £25

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Decent deal, as a sim-free Xperia E1 runs @ £85 so you're saving £22 (these are unlocked). You can choose from various networks for your £10 PAYG credit but you're not tied to them.

Decent entry phone you'd be happy for your children to have in school because they have decent enough features and when they lose it or break it, it won't break the bank.

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Plus I think if you are candid you can still get a free football xperiafootball.com/

Free Sony sbh20 bluetooth headset also, which are £25 on amazon

£79.95 - £6.82 = £73.13. OP I think you need to correct your post

Still a good deal considering you get the bluetooth headphones too (which are stereo).

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BM12

£79.95 - £6.82 = £73.13. OP I think you need to correct your post 8)Still … £79.95 - £6.82 = £73.13. OP I think you need to correct your post 8)Still a good deal considering you get the bluetooth headphones too (which are stereo).



Nope I was referring to the £10 credit,

so effectively you can take off £16.82.

And indeed I'm going to sell the headset when it comes, which should get me about £20 on Ebay.

So the phone will cost me about £43.

If we get the football, I think I'll keep that for the kids ;-)

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In fact if you sold the bits separately on Ebay you'd make a profit

mobile £80
headset £20
football £5
£10 credit £5
TOTAL £110 ;-)

sircrusticroc

In fact if you sold the bits separately on Ebay you'd make a profitmobile … In fact if you sold the bits separately on Ebay you'd make a profitmobile £80headset £20football £5£10 credit £5TOTAL £110 ;-)



Not by the time you posted everything and both eBay and Paypal get their pound of flesh.

I don't think you will get profit more likely
Mobile £40-50
Headset £15-20
Football ? Let say £5
Credit £10 £6.25
Optimistic is £81.25 minus eBay/PayPal charges £10 so £71.25
£6.25 from getpoundsback about Three months waiting or eBay £4.50-5 after charges

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You're probably right. We're just selling the headset, though ;-)

Nice little discount off the cost of the mobile.

Tried my luck with the football, we'll see how good their systems are lol (oops got a digit in the wrong place ;-) )

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Mobile phone arrived & I immediately grabbed the Sony Bluetooth headset off him lol

On the Bay this weekend for £20 off the cost of my phone.

Surprised this isn't hotter given you're getting an £80 phone for £40 but hey ho lol ;-)

rubbish specs

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deal_grabber

rubbish specs



Ah - they're not the best in the world - but kindly show us better specs for a £40 mobile?

sircrusticroc

Ah - they're not the best in the world - but kindly show us better specs … Ah - they're not the best in the world - but kindly show us better specs for a £40 mobile?



You can not buy the phone for £40.

I also believe the football offer is finished.

"Phones 4u promotion starts 5th June 2014 to 13th July 2014"

Edited by: "JoeBoy88" 18th Jul 2014

Does anyone know for sure that Phones4u handsets are definetly unlocked? Im looking to get a reasonable pay and go phone but needs to work on o2 and their site doesnt show an o2 sim version

Any views if this is better or worse than a Nokia Lumia 520?

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JoeBoy88

You can not buy the phone for £40. I also believe the football offer is … You can not buy the phone for £40. I also believe the football offer is finished. "Phones 4u promotion starts 5th June 2014 to 13th July 2014"



As I showed above, depending on the price I get for the headset, mine's costing me about £43. Cashback has already tracked.

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jase.2

Does anyone know for sure that Phones4u handsets are definetly unlocked? … Does anyone know for sure that Phones4u handsets are definetly unlocked? Im looking to get a reasonable pay and go phone but needs to work on o2 and their site doesnt show an o2 sim versionAny views if this is better or worse than a Nokia Lumia 520?



My son's is with T Mobile and up & running as such.

I guess I could stick a Virgin sim in it tomorrow if you like and check that it fires up.

Is this better than Moto E?

jase.2

Does anyone know for sure that Phones4u handsets are definetly unlocked? … Does anyone know for sure that Phones4u handsets are definetly unlocked? Im looking to get a reasonable pay and go phone but needs to work on o2 and their site doesnt show an o2 sim versionAny views if this is better or worse than a Nokia Lumia 520?



It's 520 - camera much better (though lumia camera's are bit hyped but definitely better than this on 520)... OS much better for these low end specs and you won't believe how it performs until you use it, and with WP8.1 upgrade more strong on the basics, I think internal storage is twice than this, and you can grab it for £50-60. Lastly, you will have all the apps you need... don't listen to idiots.

what is TCB?

TCB=Top cashback!

Re. comparison with Moto E i think the PCU is similar, but the Moto E has a bigger screen at 4.3 inch and I suspect is a nicer screen too - though I can't compare I'm v.happy/impressed with the Moto E screen. Camera on Sony E1 may be better?

The Moto E is very light on added software/bloatware, whereas I suspect the Xperia like it's predecessor won't be, leaving you less room for your own app choices. The Moto E lets you move supported apps to the SD card (the old Xperia E didn't - I don't know about the E1). Its predecessor was also hobbled by partitioned memory, allowing you only to install apps/updates to c.790MB which was appalling - hope they haven't done this on the E1 - I can't understand why they do this except to spite users!). In summary, I'd go for the Moto E, in fact I have!
Edited by: "jazzuk777" 19th Jul 2014

Do the navigation apps work properly on smartphones? do they use a true GPS signal or are they just guessing were you are using wifi or signal coverage. on my phone I have enabled GPS but it also tells me I need to enable wifi, if I don't enable wifi it puts me way off from where I'm actually located. How does enabling wifi work when surely I am only allowed access to my own home router? can it access other people's routers just to get a location despite not having there wep key?

Can anyone post a link to free sony headset as i can not find it on there website?
Edited by: "banny07" 19th Jul 2014

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Free Sony SBH20 Bluetooth Headset
With this deal you will also receive a Sony SBH20 Bluetooth Headset.
Bluetooth 3.0*
•Multipoint connectivity
•NFC
phones4u.co.uk/pla…LCK

POWYSWALES

Do the navigation apps work properly on smartphones? do they use a true … Do the navigation apps work properly on smartphones? do they use a true GPS signal or are they just guessing were you are using wifi or signal coverage. on my phone I have enabled GPS but it also tells me I need to enable wifi, if I don't enable wifi it puts me way off from where I'm actually located. How does enabling wifi work when surely I am only allowed access to my own home router? can it access other people's routers just to get a location despite not having there wep key?



All the Navigation apps use the GPS chipset in the phone. These triangulate your location based on multiple satellites. Wifi is used to determine location where GPS signals are weak or hard to lock onto e.g. in a big city with tall buildings and no line of sight for satellite locks. Having said than most new GPS chips are so good they get a lock even when the phone is in a glove box of a car or in the middle of a house.

Wifi Access points send out lots on information that is in the clear the SSID, the MAC address etc. This is sent out in the clear as devices need to see this to connect. Even when data is encrypted with WEP, WPA etc it is is the data (Payload) that in encrypted the headers are still open. If you take the example of Google Maps they driver cars around that scans all the Wifi data. They log the unique parts of the data and by seeing what was visible by their cars at specific locations they can determine where you are.

Apple and others to much the same. Also for Traffic Google uses the speed of each Maps user to update its real time traffic stats. This allows improved routing as if there are people stuck in traffic you will be routed around this.

If you need there are free off line GPS apps and you can download maps for Google Maps before you leave for a jounery to have off line navigation (of course you will not get traffic related route changes in real time)

FYI WEP should not be used it is broken and can be cracked in seconds, best to use WPA2 with a long (>15 char) key. Hiding your SSID does nothing to improve security.


http://www.macworld.com/article/1159528/how_iphone_location_works.html

support.google.com/map…=en

frownbreaker

All the Navigation apps use the GPS chipset in the phone. These … All the Navigation apps use the GPS chipset in the phone. These triangulate your location based on multiple satellites. Wifi is used to determine location where GPS signals are weak or hard to lock onto e.g. in a big city with tall buildings and no line of sight for satellite locks. Having said than most new GPS chips are so good they get a lock even when the phone is in a glove box of a car or in the middle of a house.Wifi Access points send out lots on information that is in the clear the SSID, the MAC address etc. This is sent out in the clear as devices need to see this to connect. Even when data is encrypted with WEP, WPA etc it is is the data (Payload) that in encrypted the headers are still open. If you take the example of Google Maps they driver cars around that scans all the Wifi data. They log the unique parts of the data and by seeing what was visible by their cars at specific locations they can determine where you are.Apple and others to much the same. Also for Traffic Google uses the speed of each Maps user to update its real time traffic stats. This allows improved routing as if there are people stuck in traffic you will be routed around this.If you need there are free off line GPS apps and you can download maps for Google Maps before you leave for a jounery to have off line navigation (of course you will not get traffic related route changes in real time)FYI WEP should not be used it is broken and can be cracked in seconds, best to use WPA2 with a long (>15 char) key. Hiding your SSID does nothing to improve security.http://www.macworld.com/article/1159528/how_iphone_location_works.htmlhttps://support.google.com/maps/answer/1725632?hl=en



I've had quite a few problems with getting Google maps to lock on to GPS in rural areas and/or getting data to get me going. I'd recommend having an offline satnav (e.g NavFree or Mapfactor) as a back up if your phone has the space for it.

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Still good to go & my Sony SBH20 Bluetooth Headset sold for £28
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