Specialized Allez E5 2020 Road Bike @ Rutland Cycling for £587.01

This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you can stretch another 200 notes:

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deleted211550817/07/2019 22:21

This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you …This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you can stretch another 200 notes:https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/road-bikes/scott-solace-30-road-bike-greyblack_471556Read lessRead more

So if I spend an extra 34% I’ll get a better bike? Amazing.

neilvaughan117/07/2019 22:30

So if I spend an extra 34% I’ll get a better bike? Amazing.

I said "better value", can you read?

deleted211550817/07/2019 22:21

This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you …This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you can stretch another 200 notes:https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/road-bikes/scott-solace-30-road-bike-greyblack_471556Read lessRead more

‌ Post it as another deal then.... That's £200 extra! <roll of eyes>

cfbc17/07/2019 22:34

‌ Post it as another deal then.... That's £200 extra! <roll of …‌ Post it as another deal then.... That's £200 extra! <roll of eyes>Read lessRead more

Hey don't shoot the messenger, just wanted to point out this really ain't a deal.

Yes it’s not got the latest graphite thingymebobs nor is it as light as a pair of Oakleys but for this price it’s an absolutely steal and a beautiful bike. Every other sub £600 bike aspires to be this. Specialized quality for Boardman money.

deleted211550817/07/2019 22:33

I said "better value", can you read?

Ok, I’ll rephrase it for you;

So if I spend an extra 34% I’ll get a better value bike? Amazing.

And yes, I can read thank you 🛎

deleted211550817/07/2019 22:37

Hey don't shoot the messenger, just wanted to point out this really ain't …Hey don't shoot the messenger, just wanted to point out this really ain't a deal.Read lessRead more

It’s £50 cheaper than without the code. Your suggestion is over £200 more and in a different price bracket, which is outside of entry level.

Square taper bottom bracket is a bit poo. Also means you need to buy two sets of tools if you want to upgrade the crankset. Acceptable on a budget bike, but I'd expect better on a Specialized.

neilvaughan117/07/2019 22:47

Ok, I’ll rephrase it for you;So if I spend an extra 34% I’ll get a better v …Ok, I’ll rephrase it for you;So if I spend an extra 34% I’ll get a better value bike? Amazing.And yes, I can read thank you 🛎Read lessRead more

I don't think you quite understand the concept of "value" vs "price", but you keep on keeping on, more power to you if it makes you happy - each to their own and all that

neilvaughan117/07/2019 22:49

It’s £50 cheaper than without the code. Your suggestion is over £200 more …It’s £50 cheaper than without the code. Your suggestion is over £200 more and in a different price bracket, which is outside of entry level.Read lessRead more

Sigh, let me find another - simpler - example for you.

How about this infinitely better specced bike instead for less money: merlincycles.com/edd…tml. You're welcome.

deleted211550817/07/2019 22:50

I don't think you quite understand the concept of "value" vs "price", but …I don't think you quite understand the concept of "value" vs "price", but you keep on keeping on, more power to you if it makes you happy - each to their own and all that Read lessRead more

I’m sure I could hunt down some better “value” bikes that cost a lot more in the first place. Perhaps if you found a bike in the same price bracket with a better spec, you would have some credibility.

deleted211550817/07/2019 22:53

Sigh, let me find another - simpler - example for you.How about this …Sigh, let me find another - simpler - example for you.How about this infinitely better specced bike instead for less money: https://www.merlincycles.com/eddy-merckx-blockhaus-67-tiagra-road-bike-104303.html. You're welcome.Read lessRead more

You don’t like to let things go do you. Perhaps if you had made a sensible comparison in the first place I’d have bothered to click on your link. But you’ve lost all credibility already. Sigh.

neilvaughan117/07/2019 22:59

You don’t like to let things go do you. Perhaps if you had made a s …You don’t like to let things go do you. Perhaps if you had made a sensible comparison in the first place I’d have bothered to click on your link. But you’ve lost all credibility already. Sigh.Read lessRead more

It's OK to admit defeat son, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger!

Get a room and hammer out your differences 😁

deleted211550817/07/2019 22:21

This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you …This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you can stretch another 200 notes:https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/road-bikes/scott-solace-30-road-bike-greyblack_471556Read lessRead more

100% agree with you.
The Scott solace 30 is a much better deal for an extra £200.
It's actually a really good deal.
Better frame, groupset, wheels, components, everything is far better than the specialized.
The specialized is ok but much of it is done to a budget to reach a low price point.
My honest opinion, if you can afford an extra £200 buy the Scott, it's a really good deal. If you don't have an extra £200, save up.

ifitsfreeitsmine17/07/2019 23:33

100% agree with you.The Scott solace 30 is a much better deal for an extra …100% agree with you.The Scott solace 30 is a much better deal for an extra £200.It's actually a really good deal.Better frame, groupset, wheels, components, everything is far better than the specialized.The specialized is ok but much of it is done to a budget to reach a low price point. My honest opinion, if you can afford an extra £200 buy the Scott, it's a really good deal. If you don't have an extra £200, save up.Read lessRead more

The Solace goes up to 54cm max. I'm 6ft 5,so prob a bit small?

neilvaughan117/07/2019 23:02

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Maybe not with you. Personally I'm happy that someone would point out that for an extra 200 quid I could have a bike that was 50% off, instead of 7.5% off. Especially when the retailer offers 0% finance so I'm only a fiver a week worse off.

johnnystorm17/07/2019 23:52

Maybe not with you. Personally I'm happy that someone would point out that …Maybe not with you. Personally I'm happy that someone would point out that for an extra 200 quid I could have a bike that was 50% off, instead of 7.5% off. Especially when the retailer offers 0% finance so I'm only a fiver a week worse off.Read lessRead more

Good for you.

djkn17/07/2019 23:48

The Solace goes up to 54cm max. I'm 6ft 5,so prob a bit small?

Yeah too small for you unfortunately, but the Scott solace is an amazing deal for anyone who isn't a GIANT ‌

deleted211550817/07/2019 22:53

Sigh, let me find another - simpler - example for you.How about this …Sigh, let me find another - simpler - example for you.How about this infinitely better specced bike instead for less money: https://www.merlincycles.com/eddy-merckx-blockhaus-67-tiagra-road-bike-104303.html. You're welcome.Read lessRead more

100% agree with you.
The Scott solace 30 is a much better deal for an extra £200.
It's actually a really good deal.
Better frame, groupset, wheels, components, everything is far better than the specialized.
The specialized is ok but much of it is done to a budget to reach a low price point.
My honest opinion, if you can afford an extra £200 buy the Scott, it's a really good deal. If you don't have an extra £200, save up.

djkn17/07/2019 23:48

The Solace goes up to 54cm max. I'm 6ft 5,so prob a bit small?

Yep, I'm 5'11 and my Scott CR1SL is a 56. You'll need a 60cm, the 54 would be waaaay too small I'm afraid.

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This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you …This bike for £799 after the code is applied is much better value if you can stretch another 200 notes:https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/road-bikes/scott-solace-30-road-bike-greyblack_471556Read lessRead more

1) Not Specialized
2) Not 2020 model
3) Tiagra is not worth £200 over Claris

rodman18/07/2019 00:02

1) Not Specialized2) Not 2020 model3) Tiagra is not worth £200 over Claris

4. Full carbon frame is worth it though. Massively!

neilvaughan117/07/2019 23:53

Good for you.

My word you don’t half get some negative posters on here!

Thanks for the heads up Boobooj. Scott Solace purchased!

rodman18/07/2019 00:02

1) Not Specialized2) Not 2020 model3) Tiagra is not worth £200 over Claris

1) Better frame
2) Better wheels
3) Better gears
4) Better brakes
5) Better crankset
6) Better cassette
7) Better tyres
8)Better BB
9) > 2kg lighter

Apart from that, I agree with you - it doesn't appear to be better at all

Btw, why does Specialized have a better name than Scott in the cycling world? First I've heard of that.

Belogical18/07/2019 05:57

My word you don’t half get some negative posters on here! Thanks …My word you don’t half get some negative posters on here! Thanks for the heads up Boobooj. Scott Solace purchased! Read lessRead more

The Scott is a superb bike and you won't regret it at all. I've got that exact same frameset, but loaded up with an Ultegra / Dura Ace mix and it absolutely does justice to the components - stiff, light and responsive. I love riding the bike and I'm confident you will too!

FWIW, I would also agree that the Scott is a better value bike for the extra couple of hundred notes. Proper bargain that.

deleted211550818/07/2019 07:49

1) Better frame2) Better wheels3) Better gears4) Better brakes5) Better …1) Better frame2) Better wheels3) Better gears4) Better brakes5) Better crankset6) Better cassette7) Better tyres8)Better BB9) > 2kg lighterApart from that, I agree with you - it doesn't appear to be better at all Btw, why does Specialized have a better name than Scott in the cycling world? First I've heard of that.Read lessRead more

Don’t feed the trolls Boobooj - though what they are trying to achieve on here is beyond me.
Thanks again 🙏

As ever with big brands like Specialized prices drop hugely end of season when shops are left with too many of the 2019 models so surely better to get a deal then on the older model which is likely very similar.

Also Scott vs Specialized are different bike companies the way they are setup. Scott is a full importer owned by a Korean company who deals with a lot of Bangladesh factories and Specialized is jointly owned by Merida who are probably the 2nd best mass producer of bike frames on the planet. None of us know where they are sourcing their frames etc but in theory Specialized seems likely to be higher quality because of the Merida connection. Youngone (scott) has strong connections with Meghna and other factories in Bangladesh and other European brands are already importing from Bangladesh. I'm not really a fan of companies that present this high tech image in marketing but pretty much just import the cheapest frames they can find from low cost factories. So many European and US brands are like that nowadays. I prefer brands that actually manufacture their own bikes like Giant because they have a consistent high quality level. I'd trust Specialized more than Scott purely because of the Merida connection although I've heard that lower cost Specialized models are not made by Merida, pretty sure that includes childrens models but not sure what else.

Nothing wrong with Bangladesh bicycles I might add, they are fully certified I'm sure but the factories are more low tech, the workforce less experienced and generally the bikes and frames have slightly inferior consistency and a slightly higher failure rate as you would expect. As a budget bicycle fine but as a high end bicycle? I just feel people need to look behind the branding sometimes to see what they are actually getting for their money.

bike-eu.com/hom…571

thedailystar.net/bus…277

That's a lot of money for a clunky claris system.

As always with road cycles, head for ebay and buy a nearly new one starting with a Sora or head to Decathlon (their 500 AF @ £560, if you're not a cycle brand snob).

bonzobanana18/07/2019 10:11

As ever with big brands like Specialized prices drop hugely end of season …As ever with big brands like Specialized prices drop hugely end of season when shops are left with too many of the 2019 models so surely better to get a deal then on the older model which is likely very similar.Also Scott vs Specialized are different bike companies the way they are setup. Scott is a full importer owned by a Korean company who deals with a lot of Bangladesh factories and Specialized is jointly owned by Merida who are probably the 2nd best mass producer of bike frames on the planet. None of us know where they are sourcing their frames etc but in theory Specialized seems likely to be higher quality because of the Merida connection. Youngone (scott) has strong connections with Meghna and other factories in Bangladesh and other European brands are already importing from Bangladesh. I'm not really a fan of companies that present this high tech image in marketing but pretty much just import the cheapest frames they can find from low cost factories. So many European and US brands are like that nowadays. I prefer brands that actually manufacture their own bikes like Giant because they have a consistent high quality level. I'd trust Specialized more than Scott purely because of the Merida connection although I've heard that lower cost Specialized models are not made by Merida, pretty sure that includes childrens models but not sure what else. Nothing wrong with Bangladesh bicycles I might add, they are fully certified I'm sure but the factories are more low tech, the workforce less experienced and generally the bikes and frames have slightly inferior consistency and a slightly higher failure rate as you would expect. As a budget bicycle fine but as a high end bicycle? I just feel people need to look behind the branding sometimes to see what they are actually getting for their money. https://www.bike-eu.com/home/nieuws/2015/02/korean-youngone-acquires-scott-corp-sa-1014571https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/germanys-cube-teams-meghna-make-high-end-bicycles-1632277Read lessRead more

Scott are a Swiss owned company HQ'd in en.wikipedia.org/wik…iez

Very similar spec Trek Domane HERE for £50 less

Biker2518/07/2019 10:46

Scott are a Swiss owned company HQ'd in …Scott are a Swiss owned company HQ'd in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GivisiezRead lessRead more

You might want to Google YoungOne Corporation bike-eu.com/hom…571

What sort of a bike just won TDF stage 12?

Er according to the hotukdeals experts a Youngone made in Bangladesh by 2 year old orphans

Prefer the Allez x3

bonzobanana18/07/2019 10:11

As ever with big brands like Specialized prices drop hugely end of season …As ever with big brands like Specialized prices drop hugely end of season when shops are left with too many of the 2019 models so surely better to get a deal then on the older model which is likely very similar.Also Scott vs Specialized are different bike companies the way they are setup. Scott is a full importer owned by a Korean company who deals with a lot of Bangladesh factories and Specialized is jointly owned by Merida who are probably the 2nd best mass producer of bike frames on the planet. None of us know where they are sourcing their frames etc but in theory Specialized seems likely to be higher quality because of the Merida connection. Youngone (scott) has strong connections with Meghna and other factories in Bangladesh and other European brands are already importing from Bangladesh. I'm not really a fan of companies that present this high tech image in marketing but pretty much just import the cheapest frames they can find from low cost factories. So many European and US brands are like that nowadays. I prefer brands that actually manufacture their own bikes like Giant because they have a consistent high quality level. I'd trust Specialized more than Scott purely because of the Merida connection although I've heard that lower cost Specialized models are not made by Merida, pretty sure that includes childrens models but not sure what else. Nothing wrong with Bangladesh bicycles I might add, they are fully certified I'm sure but the factories are more low tech, the workforce less experienced and generally the bikes and frames have slightly inferior consistency and a slightly higher failure rate as you would expect. As a budget bicycle fine but as a high end bicycle? I just feel people need to look behind the branding sometimes to see what they are actually getting for their money. https://www.bike-eu.com/home/nieuws/2015/02/korean-youngone-acquires-scott-corp-sa-1014571https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/germanys-cube-teams-meghna-make-high-end-bicycles-1632277Read lessRead more

Come on Martin, I'm sure there's nothing wrong with Bangladeshi bikes but I don't think your link even suggests that's where the bikes are made.

It says the Korean firm makes clothes for a range of brands, and that half of what they make comes from Bangladesh.

I appreciate your enthusiasm but you don't half take a small fact and build a skyscraper of assumption on that foundation.

For what it's worth:
My carbon Scott, my wife's Allez and another supposed Bangladeshi bombshell my Pinnacle Arkose.

Claris - don’t do it!

hodgy106617/07/2019 22:44

Yes it’s not got the latest graphite thingymebobs nor is it as light as a p …Yes it’s not got the latest graphite thingymebobs nor is it as light as a pair of Oakleys but for this price it’s an absolutely steal and a beautiful bike. Every other sub £600 bike aspires to be this. Specialized quality for Boardman money.Read lessRead more

A good deal but Claris isn't great so it might be worth spending a bit more to get a better groupset as it's very expensive to upgrade later on.

I find it weird any bike these days comes with rim brakes... for a small weight penalty disc brakes are so much better...

In regards to this bike, this is a really common bike. People usually buy them, wait 12 months then decide they never use it and sell for around £300 for basically a new bike. Hop on Facebook Marketplace, Gumtree or Ebay and you will certainly be able to pick one of these up as new for £200-300 without too much effort.

I have bought around 3 Allez over the years this way, purchasing new is a complete waste of money.

If you do end up with this bike or similar, then around £300 will get you a full Shimano R7000 105 groupset, another £100 for some upgraded wheels such as Mavic Aksium or Campag Zonda and you have an Amazing bike for not a whole lot of cash. You could probably sell the old wheels / groupset for around £100 ish.

rodman19/07/2019 03:12

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