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Fo31 h, 1 m ago

Why would anybody buy this over a 1070?


Maybe they have a cold house?
free sync monitor already ?
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Crossbow2 m ago

Showing £379.99 for me:[Image]

Even Better then
Why would anybody buy this over a 1070?
free sync monitor already ?
Fo315 m ago

Why would anybody buy this over a 1070?


Because in a healthy number of titles it outperforms even AIB 1070's perhaps?

tomshardware.com/rev…tml

I've ordered one (free delivery) for £379.99 as they'll go out of stock within a few hours. I'll eBay it to a greedy miner, how ironic. They went OOS on Amazon in under an hour.

Thanks OP
Edited by: "The_Hoff" 28th Aug 2017
faster42333 m ago

Thats a lot of money for a £240 graphics card. All for a currency with no …Thats a lot of money for a £240 graphics card. All for a currency with no real value that will eventually belong to China. At which point the Ransomware operators will have to get more creative.


The only thing I can really respond with is - U wot m8?
southernorth4 m ago

The only thing I can really respond with is - U wot m8?


Reported him for spam.
Worth bearing in mind that the Vega 56 has a higher power consumption than the 1070, which will add up over the years if you're gaming for at least a few hours every day. One comparison I saw put it at around $70 more over 3 years assuming 4 hours a day running at load and average US electricity prices (I think we pay more than them on average). Might not seem like loads, but it's a factor if you're judging price-to-performance.

If I were looking for an upgrade now, it'd be pretty close - I've seen the cheaper 1070s in this price region too (e.g. there was a Zotac one at £344.97 last week). I think the Vega would need to be a bit cheaper or throw in a game code to swing me.

I'm all for people buying them for the sake of competition though! Not a bad price as it is.
Edited by: "Flemon" 28th Aug 2017
Fo31 h, 1 m ago

Why would anybody buy this over a 1070?


Maybe they have a cold house?
I refuse to pay this anyway. They're supposed to have 1070 performance at near 1060 prices, more lies from AMD.
Edited by: "jaydeeuk1" 28th Aug 2017
Flemon23 m ago

Worth bearing in mind that the Vega 56 has a higher power consumption than …Worth bearing in mind that the Vega 56 has a higher power consumption than the 1070, which will add up over the years if you're gaming for at least a few hours every day. One comparison I saw put it at around $70 more over 3 years assuming 4 hours a day and average US electricity prices (I think we pay more than them on average). Might not seem like loads, but it's a factor if you're judging price-to-performance.If I were looking for an upgrade now, it'd be pretty close - I've seen the cheaper 1070s in this price region too (e.g. there was a Zotac one at £344.97 last week). I think the Vega would need to be a bit cheaper or throw in a game code to swing me. I'm all for people buying them for the sake of competition though! Not a bad price as it is.



Nothing like $70 extra over 3 years for 4hrs per day. It's a few pounds per year difference.
Can you imagine if we used electricity at that rate !
That would suggest it costs around £300 to run a 1070 4hrs per day over 3 years.
Don't spread rubbish.

Vega 56 does seem to beat 1070 in most games, it's the Vega 64 which seems to be out of kilter in terms of value.

Scan website just states "call for price" for me
Edited by: "dan_lesser" 28th Aug 2017
jaydeeuk114 m ago

Maybe they have a cold house?



Why do people make things up?
Have a check on review sites rather than spreading lies
hanandtech.com/sho…/19
GTX1070 under full load 79 degrees
Vega 56 under full load 73 degrees

The stock Vega 56 is noisier than the 1070 under load, why not state that instead if you want to have a dig at the Vega.
Or the fact is uses 20% more power under load
dan_lesser3 m ago

Why do people make things up?Have a check on review sites rather than …Why do people make things up?Have a check on review sites rather than spreading lieshttp://www.anandtech.com/show/11717/the-amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-and-56-review/19GTX1070 under full load 79 degreesVega 56 under full load 73 degreesThe stock Vega 56 is noisier than the 1070 under load, why not state that instead if you want to have a dig at the Vega. Or the fact is uses 20% more power under load


It uses (a hell of a lot) more power. What do you think that gets converted in to? Squirrel tears?

I have a conspiracy theory that the AMD CEO is a major shareholder in Eon or something.
Techspot have just done a big review with 30 games:

techspot.com/rev…64/

They compared the Vega56 with the GTX1070 Founders Edition and a very expensive MSI GTX1070 Gaming X which is over £450:

overclockers.co.uk/msi…tml

Even the MSI GTX1070 Gaming which has a lower clockspeed is over £400:

novatech.co.uk/pro…wcB


Despite this,the reference Vega56 is slightly faster than both the MSI GTX1070 Gaming X and GTX1070 Founders Edition. It also consumes just under 40W more than the aftermarket MSI card. The aftermarket GTX1070 cards tend to consume more power than the more efficient Founders Edition which is not cheap:


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Edited by: "KITTYBOTS" 28th Aug 2017
Regarding voltage and thermals, the 56 undervolts very well, so forget the headlines numbers unless the review you're reading details this aspect.

It beats the 1070 and at 1440p if you have a freesync monitor (like me) it's a no brainer. Unfortunately for AMD I got bored and bought a 1080Ti instead.
jaydeeuk13 m ago

It uses (a hell of a lot) more power. What do you think that gets …It uses (a hell of a lot) more power. What do you think that gets converted in to? Squirrel tears?I have a conspiracy theory that the AMD CEO is a major shareholder in Eon or something.



About 20% more under load, yes, that is a lot !! but it doesn't really cost much more ££ per year.
AMDs Ryzen uses a lot less power than equivalent Intel, so bang goes that theory.
The_Hoff2 m ago

Regarding voltage and thermals, the 56 undervolts very well, so forget the …Regarding voltage and thermals, the 56 undervolts very well, so forget the headlines numbers unless the review you're reading details this aspect.It beats the 1070 and at 1440p if you have a freesync monitor (like me) it's a no brainer. Unfortunately for AMD I got bored and bought a 1080Ti instead.


If you have GTX1080TI money,its simply better than a Vega64 liquid cooled card at all levels. However,the Vega56 looks in a better position against the GTX1070 as long as the price can be kept reasonable.
so glad i didn't wait for vega and bought the 1070 when it was <£300
dan_lesser4 m ago

About 20% more under load, yes, that is a lot !! but it doesn't really …About 20% more under load, yes, that is a lot !! but it doesn't really cost much more ££ per year. AMDs Ryzen uses a lot less power than equivalent Intel, so bang goes that theory.


It depends on the game tested,as Vega56 can be just under or just over the power consumption of an RX580,and usually it is compared to the GTX1070 Founders Edition which is one the most efficient GTX1070 cards out there.
Flemon31 m ago

Worth bearing in mind that the Vega 56 has a higher power consumption than …Worth bearing in mind that the Vega 56 has a higher power consumption than the 1070, which will add up over the years if you're gaming for at least a few hours every day. One comparison I saw put it at around $70 more over 3 years assuming 4 hours a day running at load and average US electricity prices (I think we pay more than them on average). Might not seem like loads, but it's a factor if you're judging price-to-performance.If I were looking for an upgrade now, it'd be pretty close - I've seen the cheaper 1070s in this price region too (e.g. there was a Zotac one at £344.97 last week). I think the Vega would need to be a bit cheaper or throw in a game code to swing me. I'm all for people buying them for the sake of competition though! Not a bad price as it is.


Checking the power consumption maths here, anandtech has total system power draw with the 1070 at 267 watts under furmark, vega 56 at 314 watts. That's a difference of 47W at the wall. 4 hours of play makes for an extra 0.188 kWh power consumption or scaled up to a year that's 68.62 kWh. At 15p/kWh that's £10.29. In the grand scheme of things that's nothing but might matter to someone. Personally I can't wait for solar power and home energy storage batteries to be more of a thing as gaming in the evening would likely use stored power.
plath3 m ago

so glad i didn't wait for vega and bought the 1070 when it was <£300


That wasn't a common deal though - my mate got it too,but waited like two months for it and was proper chuffed too. Epic value.
dan_lesser35 m ago

Nothing like $70 extra over 3 years for 4hrs per day. It's a few pounds …Nothing like $70 extra over 3 years for 4hrs per day. It's a few pounds per year difference. Can you imagine if we used electricity at that rate !That would suggest it costs around £300 to run a 1070 4hrs per day over 3 years.Don't spread rubbish.Vega 56 does seem to beat 1070 in most games, it's the Vega 64 which seems to be out of kilter in terms of value.Scan website just states "call for price" for me



There was a tech site that undervolted Vega 56 and it had less power consumption and had GTX 1080 level performance. Fishy from AMD
CampGareth19 m ago

Checking the power consumption maths here, anandtech has total system …Checking the power consumption maths here, anandtech has total system power draw with the 1070 at 267 watts under furmark, vega 56 at 314 watts. That's a difference of 47W at the wall. 4 hours of play makes for an extra 0.188 kWh power consumption or scaled up to a year that's 68.62 kWh. At 15p/kWh that's £10.29. In the grand scheme of things that's nothing but might matter to someone. Personally I can't wait for solar power and home energy storage batteries to be more of a thing as gaming in the evening would likely use stored power.


If you are paying 15p/kWh you should spend less time gaming and more time changing your supplier!

So for most (gamers) people in gaming situations (not furmark) it's likely to be £7.50 or so. For real people who sadly can't game for 4 hours a day 365 days a year its pretty insignificant.
GAVINLEWISHUKD8 m ago

If you are paying 15p/kWh you should spend less time gaming and more time …If you are paying 15p/kWh you should spend less time gaming and more time changing your supplier! So for most (gamers) people in gaming situations (not furmark) it's likely to be £7.50 or so. For real people who sadly can't game for 4 hours a day 365 days a year its pretty insignificant.


Who do you recommend i went on the compear the market and the cheapest was 0.15
jaydeeuk11 h, 5 m ago

I refuse to pay this anyway. They're supposed to have 1070 performance at …I refuse to pay this anyway. They're supposed to have 1070 performance at near 1060 prices, more lies from AMD.

When did and ever say that these would be priced similarly too the gtx 1060? It beats the 1070 at a similar price and undervolting can do wonders with this card.
The_Hoff1 h, 30 m ago

Reported him for spam.




Reckon he's referencing Bitcoin mining which is the main driving factor behind the consistently high AMD card price and will continue to be for a while longer.
RedRain26 m ago

Who do you recommend i went on the compear the market and the cheapest was …Who do you recommend i went on the compear the market and the cheapest was 0.15


I'm with IRESA and pay 10.9p with a daily charge of 12.72p on their Flex 4 12 month Fixed. It also has no exit fee if that's important to you.
What's the difference between the msi and powercolor one? Nothing other than a couple of quid?
siva9826 m ago

When did and ever say that these would be priced similarly too the gtx …When did and ever say that these would be priced similarly too the gtx 1060? It beats the 1070 at a similar price and undervolting can do wonders with this card.


Plenty of 6gb 1060s in the £250-£300+ range. Launch price was supposed to be $399 (was on Amazon us) / £300 give or take 10% shaft tax.
Edited by: "jaydeeuk1" 28th Aug 2017
there should be little difference between reference models, they all have the same thermals and the same board. I don't no if there is tiny differences but from my knowledge they should be the same card but with a different brand on them.

I think this card personally is a very good buy at this price if you have the knowledge to tinker with the voltage, there is a lot of headroom from reviews that I've read in terms of making this card a hell of a lot more efficient and a lot cooler. This should help with thermal throttling and may also increase clock frequencies a little if you choose to overclock.

If i was someone who wanted to buy the card and then slot it in and not tinker with it, i would wait for the aib cards to see what they offer, the thermals on the reference cards arn't the best.
Edited by: "BBer21" 28th Aug 2017
Not very good value if most of them come out near £400 delivered. Probably just pre-order one of those Zotac GTX1070s from ebuyer for £340.

Rather have an OC GTX1070 for like £340. Vega 56 is only 5 percent faster than a GTX1070FE and like 2-3 percent overall than a GTX1070 with a half decent factory OC. You can OC GTX1070 very well too and even an OC GTX1070 uses like 40-50w less power at gaming loads.

It gets worse though. I could understand dropping £400 on a video card 12 months ago, because it was the start of the generation and it's still actually worth £400 all this time later.

But in just 6 months this £400 card will be worth like £200 and mid range at best when Volta arrives and batters AMD again. Vega is a bit of a fail really.
vulcanproject34 m ago

Not very good value if most of them come out near £400 delivered. Probably …Not very good value if most of them come out near £400 delivered. Probably just pre-order one of those Zotac GTX1070s from ebuyer for £340.Rather have an OC GTX1070 for like £340. Vega 56 is only 5 percent faster than a GTX1070FE and like 2-3 percent overall than a GTX1070 with a half decent factory OC. You can OC GTX1070 very well too and even an OC GTX1070 uses like 40-50w less power at gaming loads.It gets worse though. I could understand dropping £400 on a video card 12 months ago, because it was the start of the generation and it's still actually worth £400 all this time later.But in just 6 months this £400 card will be worth like £200 and mid range at best when Volta arrives and batters AMD again. Vega is a bit of a fail really.


6 months for volta? Yeah, ok!
vulcanproject38 m ago

Not very good value if most of them come out near £400 delivered. Probably …Not very good value if most of them come out near £400 delivered. Probably just pre-order one of those Zotac GTX1070s from ebuyer for £340.Rather have an OC GTX1070 for like £340. Vega 56 is only 5 percent faster than a GTX1070FE and like 2-3 percent overall than a GTX1070 with a half decent factory OC. You can OC GTX1070 very well too and even an OC GTX1070 uses like 40-50w less power at gaming loads.It gets worse though. I could understand dropping £400 on a video card 12 months ago, because it was the start of the generation and it's still actually worth £400 all this time later.But in just 6 months this £400 card will be worth like £200 and mid range at best when Volta arrives and batters AMD again. Vega is a bit of a fail really.


I have a GTX1080 myself,but Vega56 has support for FP16,which Volta will probably have,and even supports all DX12 features at a higher tier too than Pascal. Once Nvidia gets that support,I expect a GTX1070 won't look that great in comparison even if Volta gives Vega a good thrashing.

The PS4 PRO supports FP16 and the XBox One X uses Vega shaders and since Pascal is towards the end of its lifepsan I doubt it will get much performance improvements anyway. Both Far Cry 5 and Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus support FP16 and Bethesda has a partnership with AMD:

techradar.com/new…zen

So people will say buy a GTX1070 even over a £380 Vega56,and the same time next year,Vega56 will have gained even more performance,but by then the people who said buy a GTX1070 now,will quietly ignore that as they would have moved over to the Volta bandwagon.
Edited by: "KITTYBOTS" 28th Aug 2017
The_Hoff9 m ago

6 months for volta? Yeah, ok!


March 2018 is highly likely.

KITTYBOTS8 m ago

I have a GTX1080 myself,but Vega56 has support for FP16,which Volta will …I have a GTX1080 myself,but Vega56 has support for FP16,which Volta will probably have,and even supports all DX12 features at a higher tier too than Pascal. The PS4 PRO supports FP16 and the XBox One X uses Vega shaders and since Pascal is towards the end of its lifepsan so I doubt it will get much performance improvements anyway. Both Far Cry 5 and Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus support FP16 and Bethesda has a partnership with AMD:http://www.techradar.com/news/bethesda-pledges-to-optimize-its-pc-games-for-amd-vega-and-ryzenSo people will say buy a GTX1070 even over a £380 Vega56,and the same time next year,Vega56 will have gained even more performance,but by then the people who said buy a GTX1070 now,will quietly ignore that as they would have moved over to the Volta bandwagon.



I wouldn't spend £400 on any video card right now if I was smart since it's now twilight in this 'generation'. Vega 56 is a passable competitor to a year old Pascal card that is barely any faster while sucking down a bunch more power. If a Vega 56 is £60 more expensive and it'll be a mid range card anyway in half a year it's not exactly an exciting proposition.

Sure, you could wait around another 12 months and hope upon hope that AMD have finally sorted their drivers and a couple years for more games to support the features it has and gain another 5 percent on a GTX1070.

Or at that point you could just buy a mid range Volta that will likely duff it up in all aspects anyway.
vulcanproject3 m ago

March 2018 is highly likely.I wouldn't spend £400 on any video card right …March 2018 is highly likely.I wouldn't spend £400 on any video card right now if I was smart since it's now twilight in this 'generation'. Vega 56 is a passable competitor to a year old Pascal card that is barely any faster while sucking down a bunch more power. If a Vega 56 is £60 more expensive and it'll be a mid range card anyway in half a year it's not exactly an exciting proposition.Sure, you could wait around another 12 months and hope upon hope that AMD have finally sorted their drivers and a couple years for more games to support the features it has and gain another 5 percent on a GTX1070. Or at that point you could just buy a mid range Volta that will likely duff it up in all aspects anyway.


Consumer Volta won't be available until well in to Q2 from what I've read.

Why would Nvidia rush it? They have no need. Sure the industry cards will be first as there's a benefit, but consumer? Nah.
Scan still have stock on the other models. Overclockers sold out in 20 or so mins today. The link was revealed on their forum 15 mins before 2pm.

Still be interesting to see what performace Vega gains when drivers are updated to suit Vega. Lot of new technology in Vega including HBM2 memory. The base 1070 is cheaper but it's a less well known brand. Can developers tweak old/new games to use Vega more? What will be the the percentage gains from this? Don't base your decisions on testing of the product on day 1. Pascal has been out for over a year now.

I think some expected price circa £350 today. I think that was always unlikely given weaker pound. The $399 excludes VAT.
The_Hoff8 m ago

Consumer Volta won't be available until well in to Q2 from what I've …Consumer Volta won't be available until well in to Q2 from what I've read.Why would Nvidia rush it? They have no need. Sure the industry cards will be first as there's a benefit, but consumer? Nah.


Nvidia have already said they want to take advantage of AMD's slow introduction of next generation GPUs even better than they did with Pascal, in an investor conference call earlier this year. Production of Volta at TSMC on 12nm is pencilled in for the end of this year, and unless Nvidia sit on it (and they don't have much reason to and indicated they won't) they should have volume for spring.

Furthermore Hynix also announced their GDDR6 memory chips will be mass produced for a client that’s releasing a "high-end graphics card by early 2018" on a 384 bit interface.

Hint: it isn't for an AMD product.

Strong evidence for an early 2018 Volta launch.
Edited by: "vulcanproject" 28th Aug 2017
vulcanproject20 m ago

March 2018 is highly likely.I wouldn't spend £400 on any video card right …March 2018 is highly likely.I wouldn't spend £400 on any video card right now if I was smart since it's now twilight in this 'generation'. Vega 56 is a passable competitor to a year old Pascal card that is barely any faster while sucking down a bunch more power. If a Vega 56 is £60 more expensive and it'll be a mid range card anyway in half a year it's not exactly an exciting proposition.Sure, you could wait around another 12 months and hope upon hope that AMD have finally sorted their drivers and a couple years for more games to support the features it has and gain another 5 percent on a GTX1070. Or at that point you could just buy a mid range Volta that will likely duff it up in all aspects anyway.


Not hope as I pointed out a few games coming soon which has the support. You first said to get a GTX1070 and when it was pointed out it will age much worse,now you said wait for Volta. You know very well once Nvidia supports those features Pascal is a bit screwed over,and this is coming from someone who has had a GTX1080 from last year.

Only "enthusiasts" on forums buy £300 to £400 cards to last a year - a few years is typical for most non enthusiasts. The fact is history repeats itself - on Hexus you had the RX470/RX570 4GB which could not get close to a GTX1060 3GB,now in their latest review the former is similar to a GTX1060 6GB. Look at how long lived the R9 290 series was.

The major issue is price - at under £400,it will be the longer lasting card,and those who say that it won't be are the type,who will conveniently forget about it once the new Nvidia cards are out,and then wax lyrical about all the new features they have over Pascal(which Vega will support too).

If its over £400,then it has the GTX1080 to contend with,and I would argue that has enough of a performance uplift over a GTX1070 to ward off the Vega56.

Also if you go on,but Volta is out early next year,then why not see what Navi is,then you would say but Nvidia is launching another generation after that,etc. People are going to be buying this type of card(GTX1070/Vega56) right until the new ones are released.

If not Nvidia and AMD would have problems.
Edited by: "KITTYBOTS" 28th Aug 2017
KITTYBOTS8 m ago

Not hope as I pointed out a few games coming soon which has the support. …Not hope as I pointed out a few games coming soon which has the support. You first said to get a GTX1070 and when it was pointed out it will age much worse,now you said wait for Volta. You know very well once Nvidia supports those features Pascal is a bit screwed over,and this is coming from someone who has had a GTX1080 from last year. Only "enthusiasts" on forums buy £300 to £400 cards to last a year - a few years is typical for most non enthusiasts. The fact is history repeats itself - on Hexus you had the RX470/RX570 4GB which could not get close to a GTX1060 3GB,now in their latest review the former is similar to a GTX1060 6GB. Look at how long lived the R9 290 series was.The fact is the major issue is price - at under £400,it will be the longer lasting card,and those who say that it won't be are the type,who will conveniently forget about it once the new Nvidia cards are out. If its over £400,then it has the GTX1080 to contend with,and I would argue that has enough of a performance uplift over a GTX1080 to ward off the Vega56.Also if you go on,but Volta is out early next year,then why not see what Navi is,then you would say but Nvidia is launching another generation after that,etc. People are going to be buying this type of card(GTX1070/Vega56) right until the new ones are released.If not Nvidia and AMD would have problems.


Hope. Hope is what you have when you say that in the future sometime this architecture will be better for games because it has X feature or Y feature.

Interestingly this sort of claim was also said of RX 480 compared to the GTX1060 12 months ago and still hasn't happened yet. Curious!

I also ended with the warning that spending £400 now on any card is not the greatest idea. It isn't. A year ago it was a fine idea, you were getting 18 months out of it before it lost too much value and was superseded. Now it's about 6 months. It's your money but hey, that's the truth of the matter.
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