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I can tell you have not seen it, you think £7 is a good deal.
Rogue One (a better film) is also available at the same price.
Bazallworks29/11/2019 23:39

- waaaah, Luke actually grew as a person instead of being the exact same …- waaaah, Luke actually grew as a person instead of being the exact same character he was 30 years ago.- waaaah, Rey is a Mary Sue (if you ignore how much of a Mary Sue Luke is in IV). - waaaah, Reys parents aren't important and I want to be spoonfed the exact same plot twist I was given in Empire. - waaaah, Canto Blight sucks and I'm incapable of understanding even the most simplistic and heavy-handed anti-capitalism allegory. - waaaah, this movie series that had villains sending 'stormtroopers' to commit genocide against those with a different ideology and was originally written as an allegory for the Vietnam War was apolitical until the put a woman with purple hair in it!- waaaah, seeing a woman float through space ruined the sanctity of the realism of a film series about space wizards with psychic powers and laser swords.- waaaah, I want the backstory of an established villain to be fleshed out in excessive detail while also hating the prequels and not realising the irony.- waaaah, I hate women and I will make an 8-hour takedown video for YouTube to convince others that I don't.


This film was complete trash . You can try and simplify down the criticisms any way you want but it can't change the fact this film is a dumpster fire.

Let's talk about how those bombs 'fall' with no gravity in the very opening scene of the film. It's all downhill from that point. Just objectively a bad film. Terribly directed and with a straw man plot. Some people actually walked out of the cinema and the scene with Leia getting shot out into space actually had people in roars of laughter. The film is just a big joke and for a household name it's frankly embarrassing.
Parappathepappa29/11/2019 23:07

Alex, definitely watch the film and make your own opinions. Remember the …Alex, definitely watch the film and make your own opinions. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the most grease, or in other words, nuanced thoughtful opinion gets little heed these days (partly why the UK and USA have the devisive they do).I'm old enough to remember the reaction to Empire when it came out. Spookily similar, divided opinion, though less amplified without social media and online hate campaigns. Fans felt less possessive of the franchise (as it wasn't one yet), and less entitled - and therefore less upset and angry if they didn't get "their" Star Wars. Only after the trilogy was complete, and thoughts had had time to be gathered, did Empire begin to become the favourite of many.

I wouldn't let nostalgia of the original trilogy cloud your judgement. This film is deserving of its criticisms.
Edited by: "thecresta" 29th Nov 2019
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Just beat me to posting this! Seems like a good price to me
I can tell you have not seen it, you think £7 is a good deal.
Still not cheap enough to buy it in my opinion of the film.
Rogue One (a better film) is also available at the same price.
Alex, definitely watch the film and make your own opinions. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the most grease, or in other words, nuanced thoughtful opinion gets little heed these days (partly why the UK and USA have the devisive they do).

I'm old enough to remember the reaction to Empire when it came out. Spookily similar, divided opinion, though less amplified without social media and online hate campaigns. Fans felt less possessive of the franchise (as it wasn't one yet), and less entitled - and therefore less upset and angry if they didn't get "their" Star Wars.

Only after the trilogy was complete, and thoughts had had time to be gathered, did Empire begin to become the favourite of many.
- waaaah, Luke actually grew as a person instead of being the exact same character he was 30 years ago.
- waaaah, Rey is a Mary Sue (if you ignore how much of a Mary Sue Luke is in IV).
- waaaah, Reys parents aren't important and I want to be spoonfed the exact same plot twist I was given in Empire.
- waaaah, Canto Blight sucks and I'm incapable of understanding even the most simplistic and heavy-handed anti-capitalism allegory.
- waaaah, this movie series that had villains sending 'stormtroopers' to commit genocide against those with a different ideology and was originally written as an allegory for the Vietnam War was apolitical until the put a woman with purple hair in it!
- waaaah, seeing a woman float through space ruined the sanctity of the realism of a film series about space wizards with psychic powers and laser swords.
- waaaah, I want the backstory of an established villain to be fleshed out in excessive detail while also hating the prequels and not realising the irony.
- waaaah, I hate women and I will make an 8-hour takedown video for YouTube to convince others that I don't.
Parappathepappa29/11/2019 23:07

Alex, definitely watch the film and make your own opinions. Remember the …Alex, definitely watch the film and make your own opinions. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the most grease, or in other words, nuanced thoughtful opinion gets little heed these days (partly why the UK and USA have the devisive they do).I'm old enough to remember the reaction to Empire when it came out. Spookily similar, divided opinion, though less amplified without social media and online hate campaigns. Fans felt less possessive of the franchise (as it wasn't one yet), and less entitled - and therefore less upset and angry if they didn't get "their" Star Wars. Only after the trilogy was complete, and thoughts had had time to be gathered, did Empire begin to become the favourite of many.

I wouldn't let nostalgia of the original trilogy cloud your judgement. This film is deserving of its criticisms.
Edited by: "thecresta" 29th Nov 2019
For anyone who can't sleep, put on the Canto Bright sequence,
It's so woke it will put you to kippers in no time. Yaaaaaawn
Wait so they pay me £7.09 to watch it? There must be a mistake because it says "buy"
I hated this film if I'm honest
Bazallworks29/11/2019 23:39

- waaaah, Luke actually grew as a person instead of being the exact same …- waaaah, Luke actually grew as a person instead of being the exact same character he was 30 years ago.- waaaah, Rey is a Mary Sue (if you ignore how much of a Mary Sue Luke is in IV). - waaaah, Reys parents aren't important and I want to be spoonfed the exact same plot twist I was given in Empire. - waaaah, Canto Blight sucks and I'm incapable of understanding even the most simplistic and heavy-handed anti-capitalism allegory. - waaaah, this movie series that had villains sending 'stormtroopers' to commit genocide against those with a different ideology and was originally written as an allegory for the Vietnam War was apolitical until the put a woman with purple hair in it!- waaaah, seeing a woman float through space ruined the sanctity of the realism of a film series about space wizards with psychic powers and laser swords.- waaaah, I want the backstory of an established villain to be fleshed out in excessive detail while also hating the prequels and not realising the irony.- waaaah, I hate women and I will make an 8-hour takedown video for YouTube to convince others that I don't.


This film was complete trash . You can try and simplify down the criticisms any way you want but it can't change the fact this film is a dumpster fire.

Let's talk about how those bombs 'fall' with no gravity in the very opening scene of the film. It's all downhill from that point. Just objectively a bad film. Terribly directed and with a straw man plot. Some people actually walked out of the cinema and the scene with Leia getting shot out into space actually had people in roars of laughter. The film is just a big joke and for a household name it's frankly embarrassing.
I'm saddened that even this tiny slice of the internet is proving my point. I was hoping it wouldn't.
Parappathepappa30/11/2019 01:42

I'm saddened that even this tiny slice of the internet is proving my …I'm saddened that even this tiny slice of the internet is proving my point. I was hoping it wouldn't.


Yes because if it doesn't fit your chosen narrative then you are
not prepared to listen to another opinion?

I respect you like it, you should respect some of us found an
entertaining fantasy story turned into an advert for the
extreme left, which I regard as dangerous as the right.
steve_bezerker30/11/2019 00:56

This film was complete trash . You can try and simplify down the …This film was complete trash . You can try and simplify down the criticisms any way you want but it can't change the fact this film is a dumpster fire.Let's talk about how those bombs 'fall' with no gravity in the very opening scene of the film. It's all downhill from that point. Just objectively a bad film. Terribly directed and with a straw man plot. Some people actually walked out of the cinema and the scene with Leia getting shot out into space actually had people in roars of laughter. The film is just a big joke and for a household name it's frankly embarrassing.


K
Parappathepappa30/11/2019 01:42

I'm saddened that even this tiny slice of the internet is proving my …I'm saddened that even this tiny slice of the internet is proving my point. I was hoping it wouldn't.


Star wars fans don't deserve Star wars
RollTide30/11/2019 04:11

Yes because if it doesn't fit your chosen narrative then you arenot …Yes because if it doesn't fit your chosen narrative then you arenot prepared to listen to another opinion?I respect you like it, you should respect some of us found anentertaining fantasy story turned into an advert for theextreme left, which I regard as dangerous as the right.


Lol
RollTide30/11/2019 04:11

Yes because if it doesn't fit your chosen narrative then you arenot …Yes because if it doesn't fit your chosen narrative then you arenot prepared to listen to another opinion?I respect you like it, you should respect some of us found anentertaining fantasy story turned into an advert for theextreme left, which I regard as dangerous as the right.


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Is that how much they paying me to watch this crap again!? No wayyy
gatchafan29/11/2019 21:26

I can tell you have not seen it, you think £7 is a good deal.


Amen brother
RollTide30/11/2019 04:11

Yes because if it doesn't fit your chosen narrative then you arenot …Yes because if it doesn't fit your chosen narrative then you arenot prepared to listen to another opinion?I respect you like it, you should respect some of us found anentertaining fantasy story turned into an advert for theextreme left, which I regard as dangerous as the right.


You may notice I haven't shared my opinion or chosen narrative. I didn't say whether I liked it or not, letting the OP see the film without my thoughts on the film itself.

I love to discuss films, and other opinions - it doesn't bother me whether people like it or not

I was saddened that people are so binary in their opinion, the negative often condemning the whole film outright, the positive defending every part of it. Both sides equally driven by emotion, fuelled by the other side, rather than objective, nuanced discussion.

I agree that any advert for extreme left or right is dangerous - though Star Wars was always an allegory for our wars (WW2 and Vietnam primarily), with the "good guys" being the extreme left. A rebellion, equipped with military vehicles and ammunition, fighting the Empire (for George Lucas - the Nazis. 100-200 years ago, it would have been the British) their key plan the destruction of a military base along with the people on it, with no mention of attempts at peaceful resolution, or what the plan was after that to respond to the backlash or destabilisation throughout the galaxy in law and order. As you say, the left could be more dangerous than the right.

This isn't a criticism by any means, it's just the way most movies were (and still are) - good guys vs bad guys. We don't think about that stuff, we just want heroes and villains to be clearly shown so we can be entertained for 2 hours and cheer when the good guys win.

In fact it's rather curious that as Star Wars has tried to be less binary, the fans became more so. TLJ pointed out for the first time that our righteous viewpoint of who the good guys and bad guys are depends on which side we're on.

For better or worse, it is a true statement of the war machine and propaganda we are fed. In our world today, who are the Empire and the Rebels? Who is trying to bring order to the galaxy with might, who is trying to bring the bigger power down? How are rag-tag militarised rebels depicted in reality?

I think some of us were upset because subconsciously it burst our bubble, and ruined our suspension of disbelief. We want good guys and bad guys, we need to know who to cheer for without feeling guilty!

Unfortunately I have to return to my real work, rather than writing epic editorial pieces for HUKD, and the three people that will read this and say I'm not a real Star Wars fan because I like TLJ (I've still not said either way...).
Edited by: "Parappathepappa" 30th Nov 2019
Bazallworks29/11/2019 23:39

- waaaah, Luke actually grew as a person instead of being the exact same …- waaaah, Luke actually grew as a person instead of being the exact same character he was 30 years ago.- waaaah, Rey is a Mary Sue (if you ignore how much of a Mary Sue Luke is in IV). - waaaah, Reys parents aren't important and I want to be spoonfed the exact same plot twist I was given in Empire. - waaaah, Canto Blight sucks and I'm incapable of understanding even the most simplistic and heavy-handed anti-capitalism allegory. - waaaah, this movie series that had villains sending 'stormtroopers' to commit genocide against those with a different ideology and was originally written as an allegory for the Vietnam War was apolitical until the put a woman with purple hair in it!- waaaah, seeing a woman float through space ruined the sanctity of the realism of a film series about space wizards with psychic powers and laser swords.- waaaah, I want the backstory of an established villain to be fleshed out in excessive detail while also hating the prequels and not realising the irony.- waaaah, I hate women and I will make an 8-hour takedown video for YouTube to convince others that I don't.


I wouldn't hope to or expect to change your opinion and it's fine that you have it. But I'd like to address the points you make as they assume because I didn't like it, that they apply to me;

Luke. You say grew as a character, I say yet another example of lazy unimaginative writing, starting with the cheapening of the climax moment of the previous film, (Which I didn't like that much either). He didn't feel there was any sort of arc here, I didn't care about him towards the end. Which is weird considering I grew up with him. It's not changing the character that was the problem it was how unlikable and unheroic they made him. The guy that threw his light sabre away to face death, save his father and deny the emperor his prize.

Rey. I don't want to be spoonfed the same story at all that's why I haven't really enjoyed either of the sequels. But saying Rey has no lineage would be fine if they set up her powers properly not that she suddenly discovers them and master's them on her own. If they built her up to be another anakin i.e. the chosen one because from young age everyone noticed he was different and had abilities. I don't remember anyone moaning about anakin not having super parents. Delivery is everything and this movie fails all over on that score.

Canto blight was boring, it's not that I couldn't get the metaphors, it's that they were clumsy, contrived and poorly constructed. You could edit the entire sequence out and it wouldn't affect the movie.

Jesus-leia. Yes pointing out that it's a somewhat scientifically questionable series is true. But the resurrection superman flight looks ridiculous. It is ridiculous and so much so destroys any attempt to squeeze emotion from it. It's just bad and must have looked worse in prose.

I like the prequels. Alot. AOTC is my least favourite because of the awks naboo anakin amidala scences. But count dooku is cool AF. I didn't need to know where snoke came from necessarily it's the fact he didn't go anywhere that bothered me.

I don't hate women either and I don't even really get how this became synonymous with not liking this movie except that Rhian's Johnson and Kennedy said that you must hate women if you don't like the movie. I'm ok if you want to just take their word for that's up to you but I'm capable of more analytical thinking. I certainly don't feel the need to justify the reasons I obviously don't hate them. The fact is I didn't like this movie because it was just bad, it was lazy, unimaginative and with the exception of the not-imperial guards fight. Largely unexciting.

There are many more criticisms of this film but I've just addressed the ones you said were the reasons I didn't like it. I don't expect to change your mind as I said, but hopefully I've demonstrated that at least in my case, you are wrong.
RiKx30/11/2019 10:10

I wouldn't hope to or expect to change your opinion and it's fine that you …I wouldn't hope to or expect to change your opinion and it's fine that you have it. But I'd like to address the points you make as they assume because I didn't like it, that they apply to me;Luke. You say grew as a character, I say yet another example of lazy unimaginative writing, starting with the cheapening of the climax moment of the previous film, (Which I didn't like that much either). He didn't feel there was any sort of arc here, I didn't care about him towards the end. Which is weird considering I grew up with him. It's not changing the character that was the problem it was how unlikable and unheroic they made him. The guy that threw his light sabre away to face death, save his father and deny the emperor his prize. Rey. I don't want to be spoonfed the same story at all that's why I haven't really enjoyed either of the sequels. But saying Rey has no lineage would be fine if they set up her powers properly not that she suddenly discovers them and master's them on her own. If they built her up to be another anakin i.e. the chosen one because from young age everyone noticed he was different and had abilities. I don't remember anyone moaning about anakin not having super parents. Delivery is everything and this movie fails all over on that score. Canto blight was boring, it's not that I couldn't get the metaphors, it's that they were clumsy, contrived and poorly constructed. You could edit the entire sequence out and it wouldn't affect the movie. Jesus-leia. Yes pointing out that it's a somewhat scientifically questionable series is true. But the resurrection superman flight looks ridiculous. It is ridiculous and so much so destroys any attempt to squeeze emotion from it. It's just bad and must have looked worse in prose. I like the prequels. Alot. AOTC is my least favourite because of the awks naboo anakin amidala scences. But count dooku is cool AF. I didn't need to know where snoke came from necessarily it's the fact he didn't go anywhere that bothered me. I don't hate women either and I don't even really get how this became synonymous with not liking this movie except that Rhian's Johnson and Kennedy said that you must hate women if you don't like the movie. I'm ok if you want to just take their word for that's up to you but I'm capable of more analytical thinking. I certainly don't feel the need to justify the reasons I obviously don't hate them. The fact is I didn't like this movie because it was just bad, it was lazy, unimaginative and with the exception of the not-imperial guards fight. Largely unexciting. There are many more criticisms of this film but I've just addressed the ones you said were the reasons I didn't like it. I don't expect to change your mind as I said, but hopefully I've demonstrated that at least in my case, you are wrong.


Wasting your time my dude. He is one of the 10% that thought the film 'shattering expectations' was a great move.

It's not like The Rise of Skywalker isn't completely undoing the Last Jedi or anything.. oh wait.
RiKx30/11/2019 10:10

I wouldn't hope to or expect to change your opinion and it's fine that you …I wouldn't hope to or expect to change your opinion and it's fine that you have it. But I'd like to address the points you make as they assume because I didn't like it, that they apply to me;Luke. You say grew as a character, I say yet another example of lazy unimaginative writing, starting with the cheapening of the climax moment of the previous film, (Which I didn't like that much either). He didn't feel there was any sort of arc here, I didn't care about him towards the end. Which is weird considering I grew up with him. It's not changing the character that was the problem it was how unlikable and unheroic they made him. The guy that threw his light sabre away to face death, save his father and deny the emperor his prize. Rey. I don't want to be spoonfed the same story at all that's why I haven't really enjoyed either of the sequels. But saying Rey has no lineage would be fine if they set up her powers properly not that she suddenly discovers them and master's them on her own. If they built her up to be another anakin i.e. the chosen one because from young age everyone noticed he was different and had abilities. I don't remember anyone moaning about anakin not having super parents. Delivery is everything and this movie fails all over on that score. Canto blight was boring, it's not that I couldn't get the metaphors, it's that they were clumsy, contrived and poorly constructed. You could edit the entire sequence out and it wouldn't affect the movie. Jesus-leia. Yes pointing out that it's a somewhat scientifically questionable series is true. But the resurrection superman flight looks ridiculous. It is ridiculous and so much so destroys any attempt to squeeze emotion from it. It's just bad and must have looked worse in prose. I like the prequels. Alot. AOTC is my least favourite because of the awks naboo anakin amidala scences. But count dooku is cool AF. I didn't need to know where snoke came from necessarily it's the fact he didn't go anywhere that bothered me. I don't hate women either and I don't even really get how this became synonymous with not liking this movie except that Rhian's Johnson and Kennedy said that you must hate women if you don't like the movie. I'm ok if you want to just take their word for that's up to you but I'm capable of more analytical thinking. I certainly don't feel the need to justify the reasons I obviously don't hate them. The fact is I didn't like this movie because it was just bad, it was lazy, unimaginative and with the exception of the not-imperial guards fight. Largely unexciting. There are many more criticisms of this film but I've just addressed the ones you said were the reasons I didn't like it. I don't expect to change your mind as I said, but hopefully I've demonstrated that at least in my case, you are wrong.


I disagree with most of your rebuttals, but thank you for being civil unlike the majority of TLJ detractors.
steve_bezerker30/11/2019 10:21

Wasting your time my dude. He is one of the 10% that thought the film …Wasting your time my dude. He is one of the 10% that thought the film 'shattering expectations' was a great move.It's not like The Rise of Skywalker isn't completely undoing the Last Jedi or anything.. oh wait.


I love how most TLJ detractors have held onto that little soundbite instead of forming a solid argument. And no, that isn't the basis of my praise at all, not by a long shot.
Bazallworks30/11/2019 10:26

I disagree with most of your rebuttals, but thank you for being civil …I disagree with most of your rebuttals, but thank you for being civil unlike the majority of TLJ detractors.


Perhaps you should look back over your original patronising and insulting post before thanking others for "being civil".

Bazallworks30/11/2019 10:27

I love how most TLJ detractors have held onto that little soundbite … I love how most TLJ detractors have held onto that little soundbite instead of forming a solid argument. And no, that isn't the basis of my praise at all, not by a long shot.


Forming a solid argument? Ok here are a few examples. Ahem:

No gravity in space yet bombs "fall"
Entire casino scene is irrelevant to main plot.
Unwanted side romance of rose and fin
Ridiculous Leia superman scene absolute misfire of emotions.
Rebels suddenly discover you can destroy an entire fleet of star destroyers with a single cruiser despite losing hundreds of space battles prior to this.
Snoke powerful enough to force connect 2 people across the galaxy but can't sense a lightsaber turning 2 inches from him.
Snoke is not explored in anyway and is just a throw away villain despite being the big bad for 2 films. No explanation of character arc or heritage.
Luke character arc completely destroyed.
Luke gains ability to project himself across the galaxy
Said ability kills luke.
Throughout the series the force has been passed on through blood and heritage.. Rey is the strongest Jedi to ever live and has had absolutely no training or heritage of the force at all giving the impression that "anybody can be a jedi", essentially undoing 6 films of canon.
Ren is the whiniest most emo villain ever, he is never threatening and may as well be a puppet.
Ren can kill Han solo in a heartbeat but refuses to kill his mother - no explanation why.
The 'wall' showing reys parentage shows no actual parents, yet you are told 'they are normal people', guess the wall doesn't work then and we should just disregard the entire sequence.
Alien breast milk.
Luke goes from Saviour of the galaxy to hermit crab in 0.5 seconds.
Luke risked his life to bring his dad back from the dark side yet was willing to kill his nephew in a second for showing a tiny bit of anger.
Luke has watched the rebels losing for the last 20 years but stays in hiding despite being saviour of the galaxy.
Phasma went out like a b***h.
AT-AT can devastate an entire squad of rebels who are entrenched but lose to a few sand skiffs for the sake of plot development.
Hux became an embarrassment for the sake of humour.
Horse aliens can outrun ships.
Choreography of red guard fight scene was terrible.
Entire plot was straw man.
thecresta30/11/2019 10:38

Perhaps you should look back over your original patronising and insulting …Perhaps you should look back over your original patronising and insulting post before thanking others for "being civil".


I mean, it was aimed at the man babies who cry at this film ruining their childhoods rather than anyone who wants to engage with the discussion in a civil manner. So I'm okay, thanks.
steve_bezerker30/11/2019 10:44

Forming a solid argument? Ok here are a few examples. Ahem:No gravity in …Forming a solid argument? Ok here are a few examples. Ahem:No gravity in space yet bombs "fall"Entire casino scene is irrelevant to main plot.Unwanted side romance of rose and finRidiculous Leia superman scene absolute misfire of emotions.Rebels suddenly discover you can destroy an entire fleet of star destroyers with a single cruiser despite losing hundreds of space battles prior to this.Snoke powerful enough to force connect 2 people across the galaxy but can't sense a lightsaber turning 2 inches from him.Snoke is not explored in anyway and is just a throw away villain despite being the big bad for 2 films. No explanation of character arc or heritage.Luke character arc completely destroyed.Luke gains ability to project himself across the galaxySaid ability kills luke.Throughout the series the force has been passed on through blood and heritage.. Rey is the strongest Jedi to ever live and has had absolutely no training or heritage of the force at all giving the impression that "anybody can be a jedi", essentially undoing 6 films of canon.Ren is the whiniest most emo villain ever, he is never threatening and may as well be a puppet.Ren can kill Han solo in a heartbeat but refuses to kill his mother - no explanation why.The 'wall' showing reys parentage shows no actual parents, yet you are told 'they are normal people', guess the wall doesn't work then and we should just disregard the entire sequence.Alien breast milk.Luke goes from Saviour of the galaxy to hermit crab in 0.5 seconds.Luke risked his life to bring his dad back from the dark side yet was willing to kill his nephew in a second for showing a tiny bit of anger.Luke has watched the rebels losing for the last 20 years but stays in hiding despite being saviour of the galaxy.Phasma went out like a b***h.AT-AT can devastate an entire squad of rebels who are entrenched but lose to a few sand skiffs for the sake of plot development.Hux became an embarrassment for the sake of humour.Horse aliens can outrun ships.Choreography of red guard fight scene was terrible.Entire plot was straw man.


I still wouldn't call this coherent.
The only way this film could ruin your childhood would be if you never grew up to begin with.
Bazallworks30/11/2019 10:50

I still wouldn't call this coherent.


Lol you are so delusional. Pointless to waste any more time with you. You haven't got 2 brain cells to rub together.
steve_bezerker30/11/2019 10:53

Lol you are so delusional. Pointless to waste any more time with you. You …Lol you are so delusional. Pointless to waste any more time with you. You haven't got 2 brain cells to rub together.


Die mad about it.
Things are transpiring exactly as I have forseen it...
Bazallworks is actually Rian Johnson AICMFP.
tsed30/11/2019 16:55

Bazallworks is actually Rian Johnson AICMFP.


Everyone watch Knives Out in cinemas now.
Bazallworks30/11/2019 10:49

I mean, it was aimed at the man babies who cry at this film ruining their …I mean, it was aimed at the man babies who cry at this film ruining their childhoods rather than anyone who wants to engage with the discussion in a civil manner. So I'm okay, thanks.


You mean. Right bad, left good. We get it.
Parappathepappa30/11/2019 10:04

You may notice I haven't shared my opinion or chosen narrative. I didn't …You may notice I haven't shared my opinion or chosen narrative. I didn't say whether I liked it or not, letting the OP see the film without my thoughts on the film itself. I love to discuss films, and other opinions - it doesn't bother me whether people like it or notI was saddened that people are so binary in their opinion, the negative often condemning the whole film outright, the positive defending every part of it. Both sides equally driven by emotion, fuelled by the other side, rather than objective, nuanced discussion. I agree that any advert for extreme left or right is dangerous - though Star Wars was always an allegory for our wars (WW2 and Vietnam primarily), with the "good guys" being the extreme left. A rebellion, equipped with military vehicles and ammunition, fighting the Empire (for George Lucas - the Nazis. 100-200 years ago, it would have been the British) their key plan the destruction of a military base along with the people on it, with no mention of attempts at peaceful resolution, or what the plan was after that to respond to the backlash or destabilisation throughout the galaxy in law and order. As you say, the left could be more dangerous than the right.This isn't a criticism by any means, it's just the way most movies were (and still are) - good guys vs bad guys. We don't think about that stuff, we just want heroes and villains to be clearly shown so we can be entertained for 2 hours and cheer when the good guys win. In fact it's rather curious that as Star Wars has tried to be less binary, the fans became more so. TLJ pointed out for the first time that our righteous viewpoint of who the good guys and bad guys are depends on which side we're on.For better or worse, it is a true statement of the war machine and propaganda we are fed. In our world today, who are the Empire and the Rebels? Who is trying to bring order to the galaxy with might, who is trying to bring the bigger power down? How are rag-tag militarised rebels depicted in reality?I think some of us were upset because subconsciously it burst our bubble, and ruined our suspension of disbelief. We want good guys and bad guys, we need to know who to cheer for without feeling guilty!Unfortunately I have to return to my real work, rather than writing epic editorial pieces for HUKD, and the three people that will read this and say I'm not a real Star Wars fan because I like TLJ (I've still not said either way...).


That is a thoughtful reply. You've explained your passions great.

As I said I'm glad you enjoyed the film, I hope somehow Rise of Skywalker features
a heroic moment for Luke as that was missing for me the last time.

I don't quite understand why he sacrificed his life for 30 people aboard
The Millennium Falcon.
bones7901/12/2019 01:42

You mean. Right bad, left good. We get it.


Bit of a stretch.
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