[Steam] Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2005) - £1.75 - Gamesplanet
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[Steam] Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2005) - £1.75 - Gamesplanet

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Found 24th Nov
Remember when gaming didn't involve 4,528 hours of your time to enjoy or £1600 of coin to appreciate AFTER you'd made the initial purchase? I do.

We're discussing a £35 game to a £1.75 game and it's quite clear on all counts which the winner is.

And, as a bonus, the multiplayer servers have been activated again...yes, Sir!

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Original Poster Editor

"Star Wars fans rejoice! Multiplayer support has returned for Battlefront II. Now you can draft your friends to the 501st legion and join up to 64 other players in a heated online battle for control of the galaxy."

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This will confuse a lot of people. Many parents have 'Starwars Battlefront 2' on their kids christmas list. This is the old classic from 2005, not the new EA game released this month.

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richarda3 m ago

Many parents have 'Starwars Battlefront 2' on their kids christmas list.


What the...

I'm genuinely shocked for words.

BuzzDuraband1 m ago

What the... I'm genuinely shocked for words.


Lol. Buzz is misleading the parents!

Absolutely better than the new one.

However the unwillingness to pay full price for a game (this is an old one though) is part of the reason why we have micro transactions. Development cost is too high and unsustainable.

But fantastic price. Been looking for this game to be discounted.

This was a lot more fun back in the day. Nostalgia got the better of me playing this.

Spent hours on this, truly the last real Battlefront game that deserved the name

mattlong370512 m ago

Spent hours on this, truly the last real Battlefront game that deserved …Spent hours on this, truly the last real Battlefront game that deserved the name


Agreed

Easiest vote, would have voted hot even at £20.

heard online is mostly dead?

Never played it. Decide to purchase it... discover I've already got it. Doh.

I don't normally do mutliplayer gaming but, my goodness, this looks a giggle! Is it a really steep learning curve?

BuzzDuraband46 m ago

Remember when gaming didn't involve 4,528 hours of your time to enjoy or …Remember when gaming didn't involve 4,528 hours of your time to enjoy or £1600 of coin to appreciate AFTER you'd made the initial purchase?


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ziggy9336 m ago

Absolutely better than the new one.However the unwillingness to pay full …Absolutely better than the new one.However the unwillingness to pay full price for a game (this is an old one though) is part of the reason why we have micro transactions. Development cost is too high and unsustainable.But fantastic price. Been looking for this game to be discounted.



With respect that is absolute nonsense. Certain publishers, like EA, are just too greedy for their own good, desperate to claw every penny they can from every customer they can. Gaming is more popular than it's ever been, it has never been easier for a company or even a single person to make a game and turn a solid profit on it without resorting to desperate money grabbing tactics (see Stardew Valley, Undertale, Hellblade and many others for examples). Some companies don't spend their money wisely and this has always been the case, from Atari blowing $23 million (about $60 million in today's money) on licensing for that ET game to Bungie spending a massive half a billion on Destiny (which presumably went on marketing given how the game turned out).

Jim Sterling summed it up nicely in a question asked of Dice in their recent disastrous AMA (actually the most upvoted question of the whole event even though they didn't answer it):

"They say games are too expensive to make and that’s why they need season passes, DLC, deluxe editions, microtransactions, and loot boxes (to say nothing of merchandise, tax breaks, and sponsorship deals). Can you honestly tell me that a Star Wars game was too expensive to make? That you couldn’t have made a Star Wars game, as in a game about Star Wars, and that it would not conceivably sell enough to make its money back without all these additional monetization strategies? Should you be in this business if you cannot affordably conduct business?"

Even if you were to believe the "games are too expensive to make" line from these big publishers EA themselves recently told shareholders turning off microtransactions in Battlefront 2 would have "no material effect" on their finances. If that's the case why even put them in the game?
Edited by: "Battenberg" 24th Nov

richarda54 m ago

This will confuse a lot of people. Many parents have 'Starwars …This will confuse a lot of people. Many parents have 'Starwars Battlefront 2' on their kids christmas list. This is the old classic from 2005, not the new EA game released this month.


If it does confuse any parents, their kids are going to have an infinitely better Christmas than those whose parents weren't confused.

This was the best Battlefront game by far, spent many hours on it, on the original Xbox. The new Star Wars Battlefront 2 casino, should have no place in today's gaming. Agree with the poster above that some publishers have become far too greedy, by putting, what are clearly microtransaction gambling mechanics in most of their games, they could still turn a tidy profit without them, as gaming is so much bigger now.

Maybes it's time someone else stepped in and brought these shady practices to an end, as some publishers clearly have no morals and have no intention of stopping them.
I noticed a 2nd petition has now been started to try and address this.

Adapt gambling laws to include gambling in video games which targets children.
petition.parliament.uk/pet…300
Edited by: "sadsak" 24th Nov

No one likes what ea are doing but its not worth having a rage stroke over it. This isnt reddit.

So i've always loved this game but never bought on steam as the multiplayer servers were disabled. Absolutely chuffed to bits about the news that multiplayer was back - had no idea! Bought straight away, thanks OP for making me aware

Can't wait to download and get back into it!

I just found the original PC box with the CD's inside. YAY. Glad the servers are back on.

sadsak24th Nov

This was the best Battlefront game by far, spent many hours on it, on the …This was the best Battlefront game by far, spent many hours on it, on the original Xbox. The new Star Wars Battlefront 2 casino, should have no place in today's gaming. Agree with the poster above that some publishers have become far too greedy, by putting, what are clearly microtransaction gambling mechanics in most of their games, they could still turn a tidy profit without them, as gaming is so much bigger now.Maybes it's time someone else stepped in and brought these shady practices to an end, as some publishers clearly have no morals and have no intention of stopping them.I noticed a 2nd petition has now been started to try and address this.Adapt gambling laws to include gambling in video games which targets children.https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/201300


Instead of getting the government to add even more regulation to every facet of our lives, why don't you just refuse to buy the game, send the company feedback and encourage boycotts of companies that engage in this kind activity? I get your issue with such games being targeted towards kids, but it's mostly parents buying the game and it's parents that should be responsible for what they allow their kids to do. Why is any parent giving their kids money to piss away on virtual gambling?

Having said that, I completely agree with you. These micro-transactions / gambling components have become common place in Apps / Mobile games and have spread throughout much of the gaming industry. It's up to us as consumers as to whether we stop buying games that engage in this kind of crap. I know personal responsibility isn't a particularly popular premise nowadays, but it would be good to see a resurgence of it instead of running to the government to fix every single minor issue.

Dejaque54 m ago

Instead of getting the government to add even more regulation to every …Instead of getting the government to add even more regulation to every facet of our lives, why don't you just refuse to buy the game, send the company feedback and encourage boycotts of companies that engage in this kind activity? I get your issue with such games being targeted towards kids, but it's mostly parents buying the game and it's parents that should be responsible for what they allow their kids to do. Why is any parent giving their kids money to piss away on virtual gambling?Having said that, I completely agree with you. These micro-transactions / gambling components have become common place in Apps / Mobile games and have spread throughout much of the gaming industry. It's up to us as consumers as to whether we stop buying games that engage in this kind of crap. I know personal responsibility isn't a particularly popular premise nowadays, but it would be good to see a resurgence of it instead of running to the government to fix every single minor issue.


I wouldnt call stopping kids from being addicted to gambling " which some are and will continue to be " a minor issue. Thats rather disapointing you think it is.

JMac_D6 h, 54 m ago

I wouldnt call stopping kids from being addicted to gambling " which some …I wouldnt call stopping kids from being addicted to gambling " which some are and will continue to be " a minor issue. Thats rather disapointing you think it is.


I meant in the grand scheme of things, yes it's a pretty minor issue - unless you have statistics showing otherwise. Unlike adults with homes or families to lose with gambling problems, if a kid becomes addicted to 'virtual gambling' it's a fairly straight forward fix... stop giving your kids £100's to blow on virtual gambling. I don't see why getting the government involved is necessary when the solution is half-decent parenting.

I'm not unsympathetic to those that have gambling or addiction issues, I just take issue with everybody running to the government to solve every problem like we're all helpless children that need big daddy government to protect us from ourselves. Especially when people complain about living in a nanny state...

This guy does a detailed explanation on the subject of loot boxes - youtu.be/PTL…N_M
Edited by: "bisoner" 26th Nov

Dejaque16 h, 7 m ago

I meant in the grand scheme of things, yes it's a pretty minor issue - …I meant in the grand scheme of things, yes it's a pretty minor issue - unless you have statistics showing otherwise. Unlike adults with homes or families to lose with gambling problems, if a kid becomes addicted to 'virtual gambling' it's a fairly straight forward fix... stop giving your kids £100's to blow on virtual gambling. I don't see why getting the government involved is necessary when the solution is half-decent parenting.I'm not unsympathetic to those that have gambling or addiction issues, I just take issue with everybody running to the government to solve every problem like we're all helpless children that need big daddy government to protect us from ourselves. Especially when people complain about living in a nanny state...


The problem is it isnt straight forward. You can only stop it if you know its happening, also Kids grow up to be adults. Who says the kids are getting hundreds from their parents to gamble. Gambling addiction is almost on the same level as drug addiction. People steal to fund addictions
What your saying and how your saying it just shows you don't understand the issues around gambling addiction.

Is this game better than the new version, regarding the game play.

JMac_D47 m ago

The problem is it isnt straight forward. You can only stop it if you know …The problem is it isnt straight forward. You can only stop it if you know its happening, also Kids grow up to be adults. Who says the kids are getting hundreds from their parents to gamble. Gambling addiction is almost on the same level as drug addiction. People steal to fund addictionsWhat your saying and how your saying it just shows you don't understand the issues around gambling addiction.



"The problem is it isnt straight forward. You can only stop it if you know its happening"

Well if your kid comes up to you and asks for money, you reply... what for?.... If they lie, it's not difficult to catch them out, unless you're afraid of being outsmarted by a child. If you find out they're lying, you stop giving them money until you're sure about how they're using it.

"Who says the kids are getting hundreds from their parents to gamble"

Well if they weren't then it wouldn't be a problem would it? if it was a few pennies here and there, nobody would care. But it costs real money to spunk away on some of these apps / games. As an example, a mobile game I used to play until recently added a gambling component and made the game pay to win. To remain competitive, you'd need to spend $3000 every few months to get the latest and greatest things. Surprisingly, quite a few people were prepared to do it. I wasn't, so I stopped playing.

"People steal to fund addictions."

We're talking about kids here, not heroin addicts. Oh yeah, sorry I forgot about that well known epidemic of nerdy gamer kids hitting banks across the country and mugging old grannies to fund their League of Legend addiction. Come on man, what planet are you living on. Yeah, they may steal their parents cards without permission and run up a bill, but again - that's down to the parents disciplining their kids properly.

Dejaque1 h, 44 m ago

"The problem is it isnt straight forward. You can only stop it if you know …"The problem is it isnt straight forward. You can only stop it if you know its happening"Well if your kid comes up to you and asks for money, you reply... what for?.... If they lie, it's not difficult to catch them out, unless you're afraid of being outsmarted by a child. If you find out they're lying, you stop giving them money until you're sure about how they're using it."Who says the kids are getting hundreds from their parents to gamble"Well if they weren't then it wouldn't be a problem would it? if it was a few pennies here and there, nobody would care. But it costs real money to spunk away on some of these apps / games. As an example, a mobile game I used to play until recently added a gambling component and made the game pay to win. To remain competitive, you'd need to spend $3000 every few months to get the latest and greatest things. Surprisingly, quite a few people were prepared to do it. I wasn't, so I stopped playing."People steal to fund addictions."We're talking about kids here, not heroin addicts. Oh yeah, sorry I forgot about that well known epidemic of nerdy gamer kids hitting banks across the country and mugging old grannies to fund their League of Legend addiction. Come on man, what planet are you living on. Yeah, they may steal their parents cards without permission and run up a bill, but again - that's down to the parents disciplining their kids properly.


Do you think its impossible for a kid to get their parents card and use it sparingly or steal some things from family or shops to sell or swap. Do you think there is no black market in these games.
You don't understand gambling addiction if you dont understand that gambling addictions are in some ways worse than drug addiction. As i said kids grow into adults do you think they stop being addicted when they are older.
I do hope you never have kids.

All you do is jump to conclusions and its you whos not living in the real world and unable to understand whats happening in the real world. You also lack the ability to discuss these issues in a reasonable way so its pointless for me to continue wasting my time.
I wont be reading or replying to your comments anymore.
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