Sumvision® Oracle Wireless 720P IP Camera H.264 HD  Hi Definition Pan, Android Smartphone viewing £38.99 @ Amazon sold by Bluestone Online
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Sumvision® Oracle Wireless 720P IP Camera H.264 HD Hi Definition Pan, Android Smartphone viewing £38.99 @ Amazon sold by Bluestone Online

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Found 7th Jan 2016
The Sumvision IP camera product was surprisingly a very good purchase.
Using the APPS account which hold both of our IP cameras.
I can monitor my house and flat everywhere in the world from my Iphone .
The quality of the picture is quite clear
The built in- alarm was nice and loud.
It has built mic and speaker (video conference with my bro )
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So i could use this to see who's knocking my door. ...and tell then to go away?
Loads of 720P ip cameras on Amazon for this price and lower. There is nothing special about this one.
Ebuyer had a clearance Wansview at £24.99 last week, think it's still available and would probably be a better bet?
mymymy

So i could use this to see who's knocking my door. ...and tell then to go … So i could use this to see who's knocking my door. ...and tell then to go away?



​or perhaps someone could be looking in to see what your up to . is thus camera safe or hackable?
TheUrbis

Ebuyer had a clearance Wansview at £24.99 last week, think it's still … Ebuyer had a clearance Wansview at £24.99 last week, think it's still available and would probably be a better bet?



​Can't see it on their site
peddy

​Can't see it on their site



If you're just looking for something cheap, this will do the same thing at £23.99. Available in white or black.

amazon.co.uk/gp/…GDQ

Could these (and similar) be weatherproofed I wonder to make into budget security cameras? i.e. pour potting compound over all the internals.
Roger_Irrelevant

Could these (and similar) be weatherproofed I wonder to make into budget … Could these (and similar) be weatherproofed I wonder to make into budget security cameras? i.e. pour potting compound over all the internals.



I can't see how you'd pot this without wrecking the pan & tilt. There were third party waterproof cases available for foscam type ptz cameras, but at silly prices. Maybe you could find a dummy camera like this sort of thing, but with a big enough case to fit this in, would probably need lots of silicone and a little fan to stop it overheating, or maybe even making a dome out of the top half of a 3L coke bottle

Outdoor ptz £60 :- ebay.co.uk/itm…869?hash=item25b4543e8d:g:ygEAAOSwHaBWjLfX

Buying three cheap outdoor IP cameras and pointing them in different directions would probably be better and could be cheaper.
Edited by: "melted" 7th Jan 2016
how will this compare to something like this?
use-ip.co.uk/hik…tml
after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I think i'm close to defeat and caving to buy one of these type things. The problem with the raspberry is providing an infrared light source in a neat way
Literally just got sent this yesterday to test and review, been hoping its a good little camera. For the price it looks ok to me.
melted

Buying three cheap outdoor IP cameras and pointing them in different … Buying three cheap outdoor IP cameras and pointing them in different directions would probably be better and could be cheaper.



The problem with that is that at night the inbuilt IR lights these use don't penetrate glass at all well. So you end up with an image that is basically a reflection. You can turn the IR lights off on some IP cams, but that basically stops you from getting a good picture unless there is an external light source, e.g. security light, that will light up the area outside of the window.

The way around this is to have a separate IR light outside that is motion triggered, that way a camera behind a window will have a good picture outside. Doing this however is quite a lot of hassle, probably more so than buying an external IP camera. The only instance where you might want to go down this route would be where you can't put a camera out of reach etc.

I'm using an IP camera as a baby monitor at present, it's awesome, they completely remove the need for over priced baby monitors that often have far poorer quality images.
any suggestion for a camera that can show a decent display through glass?
Amazon reviews generally good but I am always a bit wary when I see most of them were given them to review or received a 'hefty' discount for a completely unbiased review
Is this the same one: digitalpromo.co.uk/sum…tml ?
Only 4 in stock, but if you live in Liverpool area you can pick it up for £34.99
joshtbh

after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I … after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I think i'm close to defeat and caving to buy one of these type things. The problem with the raspberry is providing an infrared light source in a neat way


do you really need infrared? With the PI, I can only find security cameras (with 1 security camera). Is there any tutorial that teaches to control multiple cameras?
pnaylor39

​or perhaps someone could be looking in to see what your up to . is thus c … ​or perhaps someone could be looking in to see what your up to . is thus camera safe or hackable?



True. but nothing is perfect. Just need to know how easy people can hack it.
Good site if you want to research CCTV before you buy anything. Helped me out loads

topcctvcameras.co.uk
Edited by: "austinc" 13th Jan 2016
joshtbh

after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I … after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I think i'm close to defeat and caving to buy one of these type things. The problem with the raspberry is providing an infrared light source in a neat way



Couldn't you just use a separate IR illuminator? ebay.com/itm…935?hash=item2ee8c49cd7:g:bn0AAOSwf-VWVqh4

Or even just use a IR board ebay.com/itm…577?hash=item1c5be2add1:g:XrgAAOSwYHxWMe-r

I would of thought switching between day and night vision would be a bigger problem, because of the fixed IR filter in the PI cam. I briefly considered getting a pi and either replacing the lens mount in a PI camera module to add a powered IR-cut filter and a CCTV lens, or else trying to multiplex 2 PI cameras, a standard and a no IR camera to the camera connection.

720p ip camera modules with IR-cut are very cheap though:- ebay.com/itm…AIT


Edited by: "melted" 13th Jan 2016
wildcolor

do you really need infrared? With the PI, I can only find security … do you really need infrared? With the PI, I can only find security cameras (with 1 security camera). Is there any tutorial that teaches to control multiple cameras?



I think I need IR, it's almost pitch black on the screen outside, even when my large Watt LED light is shining.

For multiple cameras in one interface I like "motionEyeOS" recently renamed from "MotionPie"
melted

Couldn't you just use a separate IR illuminator? … Couldn't you just use a separate IR illuminator? http://www.ebay.com/itm/48-LED-Illuminator-IR-Infrared-Night-Vision-Light-Lamp-For-Camera-FCA-/201473694935?hash=item2ee8c49cd7:g:bn0AAOSwf-VWVqh4Or even just use a IR board http://www.ebay.com/itm/48-LED-IR-Infrared-Illuminator-60-Degree-Bulb-Board-For-CCTV-Security-Camera-/121800666577?hash=item1c5be2add1:g:XrgAAOSwYHxWMe-rI would of thought switching between day and night vision would be a bigger problem, because of the fixed IR filter in the PI cam. I briefly considered getting a pi and either replacing the lens mount in a PI camera module to add a powered IR-cut filter and a CCTV lens, or else trying to multiplex 2 PI cameras, a standard and a no IR camera to the camera connection. 720p ip camera modules with IR-cut are very cheap though:- http://www.ebay.com/itm/161809301379?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT



I need to investigate powered IR bulbs alongside my Pi but I read somewhere that if it's behind glass (in my waterproof enclosure) then the IR reflects back and makes it hard to see anything, admittedly I've not tested this though. Wow that 720 camera you linked to is ridiculously cheap, thanks!
what is IR Cut? does that let you see through windows?
Phene

what is IR Cut? does that let you see through windows?



No, its a filter to block Infra Red light so that the camera produces realistic colours in normal light, that is automatically slid clear of the lens when the camera switches to night vision so it will also work well using an IR light (retracting the filter also allows more light to reach the sensor).

If you want to use a camera through a window, you'd need to prevent the IR light from any emitters it has reaching the lens and also shield it form light from the room. The best bet would probably be to turn off (or disconnect if you can't) the IR emitters in your camera, and use a separate IR illuminator sat against the glass some distance away, and try to shield the lens to prevent stray light from the room reaching it.

Edited by: "melted" 13th Jan 2016
5Rivers79

how will this compare to something like … how will this compare to something like this?https://www.use-ip.co.uk/hikvision-ds-2cd2432f-iw-3mp-ir-cube-network-camera.html




That's fixed, but good quality hikvision = the nuts
joshtbh

after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I … after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I think i'm close to defeat and caving to buy one of these type things. The problem with the raspberry is providing an infrared light source in a neat way




https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wiki

try this, using it on a pi 2 running wheezey, waiting for my IP cam to come but got it up and running with rpi CSI camera with motion detection that uploads direct to google drive for cloud storage. Little bit of port forwarding and got it set up for remote access.
Flancrust

https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wikitry this, using it on a pi 2 … https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wikitry this, using it on a pi 2 running wheezey, waiting for my IP cam to come but got it up and running with rpi CSI camera with motion detection that uploads direct to google drive for cloud storage. Little bit of port forwarding and got it set up for remote access.



That's exactly what i'm already using my only issue is the fact it's no good for night time as there's no IR lights. Like previous posters have said a separate IR lamp may be an option
any good for toilets?
joshtbh

I need to investigate powered IR bulbs alongside my Pi but I read … I need to investigate powered IR bulbs alongside my Pi but I read somewhere that if it's behind glass (in my waterproof enclosure) then the IR reflects back and makes it hard to see anything, admittedly I've not tested this though. Wow that 720 camera you linked to is ridiculously cheap, thanks!




Cheap CCTV cameras try to limit reflections by fitting a closed cell foam rubber ring, or similar around the lens, it isn't a good solution though, especially when you get dust or grime on the glass, or spiders webs reflecting the light. The better ones seem to use separate glass discs over the lens and the emitters, so dust on the glass won't reflect light into the lens.
networkcameracritic.com/?p=…135 i have 3 of these on my house and hikvision DVR backed up to a network drive in the loft.

Why so much, well I live in a small village in Wales but once you walk around the back of the house nobody can see you and I have a digger, dumper, trailers, motorbikes etc so for a £300 investment I could save thousands.

I also have it set up so it records all cars coming past my house.Thinking of putting up a little dome in the kitchen pointing at the door as they won't expect that.
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Just bought a similarly-spec'd one to see if I can spot the **** who has been keying mine and the Mrs' cars over the last week. Good info re: the IR above (many thanks) as I'll be using mine indoors through a window from a 2nd-floor apartment. This one is half the price of the one I have
joshtbh

I think I need IR, it's almost pitch black on the screen outside, even … I think I need IR, it's almost pitch black on the screen outside, even when my large Watt LED light is shining.For multiple cameras in one interface I like "motionEyeOS" recently renamed from "MotionPie"


I love you mate. So using this OS, we can just add all types of cameras to the PI (ie, usb & ip cameras)?
wildcolor

I love you mate. So using this OS, we can just add all types of cameras … I love you mate. So using this OS, we can just add all types of cameras to the PI (ie, usb & ip cameras)?



Love you too. That's the premise of it yes, there's some great chat on it over at the Raspberry Pi forums and the developer actually responds in the thread. USB cameras are the only ones i'm sketchy on but I can personally vouch for the ability to add a non-pi based IP camera to the same interface. It also has a mobile skin so it looks good on a mobile phone, it's really very good.
Can you record video/control this type of Camera from apps available on a Synology NAS device?
Would this be okay fitted in a passage? Would condensation and soot be a problem (it's near a busy road so there's a lot of soot)
HereKittyKitty

Would this be okay fitted in a passage? Would condensation and soot be a … Would this be okay fitted in a passage? Would condensation and soot be a problem (it's near a busy road so there's a lot of soot)


This is a internal camera
HereKittyKitty

Would this be okay fitted in a passage? Would condensation and soot be a … Would this be okay fitted in a passage? Would condensation and soot be a problem (it's near a busy road so there's a lot of soot)



Rectal, vehicular or pedestrian ?

I've had a similar one installed outside for over a year on the underside of my soffit, still works a treat. It's an indoor DB Power IP camera posted on this site exactly one year ago. It's not exposed to direct rain, but certainly the wet ambient atmosphere, the cold and to an extent the frost. I set it up inside using the direct connection to my router then when wireless was set up I just got a 5v extension lead from e-bay (the wall-warts have short leads normally) extension and mounted it externally. It's been rock solid.
bbbazman

Rectal, vehicular or pedestrian ?I've had a similar one installed outside … Rectal, vehicular or pedestrian ?I've had a similar one installed outside for over a year on the underside of my soffit, still works a treat. It's an indoor DB Power IP camera posted on this site exactly one year ago. It's not exposed to direct rain, but certainly the wet ambient atmosphere, the cold and to an extent the frost. I set it up inside using the direct connection to my router then when wireless was set up I just got a 5v extension lead from e-bay (the wall-warts have short leads normally) extension and mounted it externally. It's been rock solid.



I'd of thought that they'd be quite a high risk of it getting killed by creepy crawlies getting inside, as well as moisture and general corrosion, even if you keep it out of the rain.

A fixed waterproof one would be a fair bit cheaper, eg this is £26 from a UK address ebay.co.uk/itm…AIT although It doesn't have wifi, or the memory card slot for local recording.

You can always use an ethernet over mains adaptor if you can't run a lan cable.

melted

I'd of thought that they'd be quite a high risk of it getting killed by … I'd of thought that they'd be quite a high risk of it getting killed by creepy crawlies getting inside, as well as moisture and general corrosion, even if you keep it out of the rain.A fixed waterproof one would be a fair bit cheaper, eg this is £26 from a UK address http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111723328031?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT although It doesn't have wifi, or the memory card slot for local recording.You can always use an ethernet over mains adaptor if you can't run a lan cable.



No beastie attacks so far (it's too cold for them where I live I guess) plus I like being able to pan around and see what's going on. I have a few pre-sets saved looking in various directions. I am so lazy, because it can be viewed from any browser or most generic free software, I even use it from whatever computery device I'm using if I hear a noise outside, rather than standing up to look out of the window.
joshtbh

after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I … after spending years of trying to coerce a raspberry pi to do this job, I think i'm close to defeat and caving to buy one of these type things. The problem with the raspberry is providing an infrared light source in a neat way



Omg I was thinking about doing the same thing...you've saved me years by the sounds of it!
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