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Superbly fast SSD 64Gb 220mb/sec Read, 120mb/sec write Samsung £137.99 @ Novatech
Superbly fast SSD 64Gb 220mb/sec Read, 120mb/sec write Samsung £137.99 @ Novatech

Superbly fast SSD 64Gb 220mb/sec Read, 120mb/sec write Samsung £137.99 @ Novatech

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As per the title they are now in stock. I have just ordered on and will be picking it up on Friday.

I had a chit chat with a customer service person who said an extra 120 are coming in on friday as well.

Specs look superbly fast and the pricing is a steal. So damn tempted to get 2....

The price includes delivery (select 3-4 day delivery or pick up in store). For just £2 extra you can get it delivered a fair bit quicker.

Don't forget your 2% Quidco. Thanks to sjaddy for the reminder. :-)

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Original Poster

Why on earth is this getting cold votes?

The specs look absolutely astonishing.

P.s Just worth mentioning that these are NOT the slower 90mb model. These will wipe the floor of any conventional HDD and most SSD's as well.

Course it cannot compare in storage, but use this as a boot drive for major win.

Hot from me - that is blazzingly fast!

Direct link: novatech.co.uk/nov…D64

I'm quite surprised how fast MLC drives can be nowadays!

Original Poster

qpan;5452953

Direct link: … Direct link: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SAM-SSD64I'm quite surprised how fast MLC drives can be nowadays!



Indeed. It looked for a time that SLC would reign. The costs were so prohibitive though.

I can't wait to stick this in my pc. :-D, Ive been waiting for improvements to HDD's for years.

What’s the life expectancy of one of these being used as a boot drive hmm?

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bilal101;5452994

What’s the life expectancy of one of these being used as a boot drive hmm?



Incredibly high.

The early SSD's had a problem with level wearing, but this has been rectified. Life expectancy for SSD's is no longer a problem at all.

I would consider it WAY more reliable than Hard drives.



This isn't new technology, its been around for yonks in military applications. Its just more commercially viable now.

bilal101;5452994

What’s the life expectancy of one of these being used as a boot drive hmm?



MTBF is 1million hours, which corresponds to allegedly 114years of 24/7 use...
But who knows what MTBF actually means, as what drive will actually last 114 years...

(Obviously it means "mean time before failure," but as 114 years hasn't passed since they've made one, 1 million hours is of course a prediction)

...and I thought it was mean time between failures - nearly the same though

qpan;5453032

MTBF is 1million hours, which corresponds to allegedly 114years of 24/7 … MTBF is 1million hours, which corresponds to allegedly 114years of 24/7 use...But who knows what MTBF actually means, as what drive will actually last 114 years...(Obviously it means "mean time before failure," but as 114 years hasn't passed since they've made one, 1 million hours is of course a prediction)



they could have simulated 114 years of use, in a shorter space of time.

h_360;5453121

they could have simulated 114 years of use, in a shorter space of time.



You can, but some things are hard to simulate accurately, like ageing of materials

Tempting, very very tempting.

Can someone buy me one please?

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kamaran;5453238

Can someone buy me one please?



Sure give me the money and I will.


:p:p

same here, would love to have one but can't afford it... I'll have to stick to regular HDDs for now, but my 2 year old 500GB seagate drive runs pretty well at around 70MB/s sequential read/write, LOL

[edit] BTW, shouldn't it be 220MB/s read and 120MB/s write? - not being picky but if that's Mbit/s then it's slow as hell

MTBF doesn't mean that the drive will last 114 years before it fails. I read something on El Reg which explained it as meaning that MTBF of 114 years means instead that you can expect one device to fail within a year, if you own 114 of them. This makes it seems lightly more realistic, since it means that you have roughly an 0.08% chace of a drive failing within the first year, which seems about accurate.

Whether that's at all correct or not I don't know, but don't expect these things to last long enough for your greatgrandchildren to play with them.

MTBF only accounts for reliability up to 5 years, as thats the expected lifetime of use of a drive, as far as I know, and its done as a probability...

Eg If you had 1000 of these drives running, then within the 5 years of reasonable use time you would have 1m/1000 = 1000 hours use before one drive could be expected to fail. I read this ages ago, cant remember where, so not 100%. So no, they won't last 114 years, but still plenty long enough.

Edit: ha! Someone else posted same thing while I was writing this, helps confirm what I thought.

Ah, ok, fair enough, guess that makes sense. Still means they expect 1 in 114 SSD's to fail within one year, compared to 2 in 114 for HDD's (0.5 million hours MTBF). EIther way, I'd imagine real figures are significantly higher...

neowin.net/new…ted

NitrousUK;5453532

MTBF only accounts for reliability up to 5 years, as thats the expected … MTBF only accounts for reliability up to 5 years, as thats the expected lifetime of use of a drive, as far as I know, and its done as a probability...Eg If you had 1000 of these drives running, then within the 5 years of reasonable use time you would have 1m/1000 = 1000 hours use before one drive could be expected to fail. I read this ages ago, cant remember where, so not 100%. So no, they won't last 114 years, but still plenty long enough.Edit: ha! Someone else posted same thing while I was writing this, helps confirm what I thought.



Unless we both just read the same article in El Reg and are both completely wrong, natch :thumbsup:

Are these in stock as [28 available 12th june] earliest delivery option is 16th june ..no good to me

Original Poster



The woman said that I would get mine sooner. There is also 120 available on Friday

Just means I miss out this time but price will keep dropping anyways and I will need a few to test so will save some pennies,thanks

bilal101;5452994

What’s the life expectancy of one of these being used as a boot drive hmm?



Nobody knows for these cheap ones yet, although the expensive ones have been around for years ones this price have only been around a year or two.

The 256GB version of this drive seems to get some excellent reviews, does anyone know whether the 64GB version is any good, what controller it uses or any reviews of it? It's not below samsung to change out components between different models of the same range (or even on the same model) so I wouldn't buy until someone has confirmed the 64GB version doesn't suffer from any problems.

EndlessWaves;5454541

Nobody knows for these cheap ones yet, although the expensive ones have … Nobody knows for these cheap ones yet, although the expensive ones have been around for years ones this price have only been around a year or two.The 256GB version of this drive seems to get some excellent reviews, does anyone know whether the 64GB version is any good, what controller it uses or any reviews of it? It's not below samsung to change out components between different models of the same range (or even on the same model) so I wouldn't buy until someone has confirmed the 64GB version doesn't suffer from any problems.



I believe it's Samsung's own controller, which at 64gb apparently suffers from slightly slower write speeds after a while of usage. It's a very small issue if you consider the disaster that was Jmicron. The only 256gb SSD worth getting right now is the Corsair P256, as it is similar in the Intel range that read/write speeds are consistent.

Edit: Ooops, after thinking about it, I think it's the OCZ Vertex that's got the lower write speeds after a while on 60gb, not the Samsung.

Original Poster

Well this thread got crapped on with cold votes

Ah well.

Can you use these hard drives as external hard drives?

Good deal, cant afford however. Does anyone know where this plugs in on the motherboard, is it as simply as plugging into a sata port?

Original Poster

BalSci;5462104

Can you use these hard drives as external hard drives?



Indeed you can. Merely put them into an enclosure.

Due to the extreme speed of these, it would be wiser to use an eSata connection rather than USB which will limit it.

korglegend;5462119

Good deal, cant afford however. Does anyone know where this plugs in on … Good deal, cant afford however. Does anyone know where this plugs in on the motherboard, is it as simply as plugging into a sata port?



Yep, its the standard sata connection.

Is this different from the one at £91 last week?

I have a question, I would love to slot them in my Acer tablet pc, mainly for the speed and the weight issue. Anyone know how much these drives weigh compared to conventional 3.5" HDD? As in, will these significantly reduce the weight of the laptop?

Cheers

Original Poster

MarreZ;5462243

Is this different from the one at £91 last week?



Hell yes. Substantially faster across the board.

Kayote;5462270

I have a question, I would love to slot them in my Acer tablet pc, mainly … I have a question, I would love to slot them in my Acer tablet pc, mainly for the speed and the weight issue. Anyone know how much these drives weigh compared to conventional 3.5" HDD? As in, will these significantly reduce the weight of the laptop?Cheers



They weigh practically nothing. Definitely worth it imho.

Does any one know if this can be used on the Dell Mini 9 that was on offer yesterday .

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DARLEK;5462317

Does any one know if this can be used on the Dell Mini 9 that was on … Does any one know if this can be used on the Dell Mini 9 that was on offer yesterday .



A quick google shows that the mini 9 is a 2.5" HDD form. If this is correct then it should work.

It's not really big enough to store an OS and the amount of applications I typically install. I'm holding out for 128GB which I reckon is just right for a system drive.

laze

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laze;5462846

It's not really big enough to store an OS and the amount of applications … It's not really big enough to store an OS and the amount of applications I typically install. I'm holding out for 128GB which I reckon is just right for a system drive.laze



Its big enough for me xD.

I am only going to use this for the OS, some adobe programs and a game or so.

I have multiple terabytes for everything else. :thumbsup:

DARLEK;5462317

Does any one know if this can be used on the Dell Mini 9 that was on … Does any one know if this can be used on the Dell Mini 9 that was on offer yesterday .



Dell Mini 9 netbooks do not use standard 2.5inch SATA drives. They use mini-pci SSD cards and are much more expensive on a £/Gb ratio and they look like this...

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2048/prstalentssdmini9i.jpg

thegadgetsite.blogspot.com/200…tml

google.co.uk/sea…ssd

Even with a possible 25% slowdown over time, non existant data recovery options and a few OS tweaks needed here and there, SSDs are still much faster than conventional hard drives. PCIe is the future of SSDs, too expensive at the moment though. When you look at drives such as the forthcoming OCZ Vertex 2 with it's 480MB/s write and 550MB/s read, it's getting closer to saturating even the next version of SATA (SATA 6GB/s) which has a throughput of 768MB/s.

fudzilla.com/ind…iew

Supertalent RAIDdrive GS (1.5 GB/sec. and 1.3 GB/sec. sustained) >

tomshardware.com/new…tml

The future looks great for solid state. I'm waiting for Windows 7 then I will buy a sata based SSD as I believe Windows 7 will be the best OS for SSDs. If you can't wait though this drive is good and at a good price. I'd also look at the new G.Skill Falcon which is faster than this drive and about £30 more.

guru3d.com/art…/11

The Falcon is the one I'd go for currently, but if you don't have the extra £30 or so, then like I said this is a decent deal.

Lastly some points to note from the above review >

"Well yeah .. that was surprising wasn't it? Man this thing nearly flies in your PC, astonishing performance, really astonishing. One remark; as you have been able to see, this product is faster than the OCZ Vertex, while the components used are nearly identical. When we reviewed the OCZ drive, right after the publication a new firmware was released, bringing more performance to that drive. "

"Now, a review like this shows peak performance, over time your SSD will get a little slower. And that differs per SSD type, firmware and functionality. It is safe to say that you might lose 25% performance over time."

Even taking the speed into account and the relatively low price, it is not worth it for me. £140 for a hard drive is still a lot of money - especially considering the size @ 64GB. Heat added, for the price on an SSD, but not a taker here.

I have two of these in RAID 0 - and it's the best upgrade I've ever performed bar none. Windows boots up in about 20 seconds (this is saying a LOT considering how heavily I use my machine) and apps open very quickly (not instantly, but close..).

Very, very, hot. Pay for themselves.

qpan;5453032

MTBF is 1million hours, which corresponds to allegedly 114years of 24/7 … MTBF is 1million hours, which corresponds to allegedly 114years of 24/7 use...But who knows what MTBF actually means, as what drive will actually last 114 years...(Obviously it means "mean time before failure," but as 114 years hasn't passed since they've made one, 1 million hours is of course a prediction)



...Mean time between failures matey....

if there's nothing mechanical inside why is it getting slower by up to 25% over time??? curious to know...
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