Surface Pro i5/ 128GB + Black Type Cover Bundle - Save £354.99 - £749 @ Microsoft
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Surface Pro i5/ 128GB + Black Type Cover Bundle - Save £354.99 - £749 @ Microsoft

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Found 22nd FebEdited by:"Askari1"
I posted this deal a while ago, but I just received an email today from Microsoft with a new lower price (£100 cheaper than last time).

Seems to be the best price at the moment.

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prikkles3 m ago

It's only 4gb of RAM. That's not enough for anything more than basic …It's only 4gb of RAM. That's not enough for anything more than basic operations. I'd wait for an offer on an 8gb model. It might be a bit more but it'd be worth it to save up the extra cash.


That's simply not true, it will do anything the 8gb will just not quite as fast (that's what virtual memory does)
The biggest drawback is 128gb storage, although a fast microsd car or small usb can help with that.
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that's a good price, though one thing to note is that currently it doesn't seem to be showing as eligible for student/teacher discount (-10%), whilst the price for the last few weeks was - bringing price to £719.

Still an excellent price though. I ordered one having had a SP4 m3 previously.

It does only have 4GB of ram, so you have to take care with not running too much at once, but as a second ultra portable fully capable windows machine it's very good.

I do find it odd they are discounting the i5 model rather than the m3 though! (Shame it's not the 8GB version+ - but they are so pricey!!!)
Nice find!!
planetf13 h, 6 m ago

that's a good price, though one thing to note is that currently it doesn't …that's a good price, though one thing to note is that currently it doesn't seem to be showing as eligible for student/teacher discount (-10%), whilst the price for the last few weeks was - bringing price to £719.Still an excellent price though. I ordered one having had a SP4 m3 previously. It does only have 4GB of ram, so you have to take care with not running too much at once, but as a second ultra portable fully capable windows machine it's very good.I do find it odd they are discounting the i5 model rather than the m3 though! (Shame it's not the 8GB version+ - but they are so pricey!!!)


The student deal seems to run every other week or so for £719 (twice in the last 2 weeks), so best to look out for that if you have access to student discount.
planetf13 h, 8 m ago

that's a good price, though one thing to note is that currently it doesn't …that's a good price, though one thing to note is that currently it doesn't seem to be showing as eligible for student/teacher discount (-10%), whilst the price for the last few weeks was - bringing price to £719.Still an excellent price though. I ordered one having had a SP4 m3 previously. It does only have 4GB of ram, so you have to take care with not running too much at once, but as a second ultra portable fully capable windows machine it's very good.I do find it odd they are discounting the i5 model rather than the m3 though! (Shame it's not the 8GB version+ - but they are so pricey!!!)


found that if you disable windows defender/antivirus, that 4GB ram and cpu frees up and the PC becomes perfect even on the m3.
for those that are able to avoid clicking Virus.exe...
windowscentral.com/how…-10

also 4% quidco
Good deal for this item voted hot , however i will not buy this, as it doesn't have a replaceable battery and so its a lot to pay for tech that might only last a couple of years
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retailtherapycat45 m ago

Good deal for this item voted hot , however i will not buy this, as it …Good deal for this item voted hot , however i will not buy this, as it doesn't have a replaceable battery and so its a lot to pay for tech that might only last a couple of years


My SP3 is nearly 4 years old and still lasts 5 hours no noticeable drop. My SP5 lasts about 7 hours.

These are superb hence why I bought another as I was in the states on business and managed an i5 256gb/8g for ~£850
It's only 4gb of RAM. That's not enough for anything more than basic operations. I'd wait for an offer on an 8gb model. It might be a bit more but it'd be worth it to save up the extra cash.
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prikkles3 m ago

It's only 4gb of RAM. That's not enough for anything more than basic …It's only 4gb of RAM. That's not enough for anything more than basic operations. I'd wait for an offer on an 8gb model. It might be a bit more but it'd be worth it to save up the extra cash.


That's simply not true, it will do anything the 8gb will just not quite as fast (that's what virtual memory does)
The biggest drawback is 128gb storage, although a fast microsd car or small usb can help with that.
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Don't forget 2.1% TopCashBack! I'm a big fan of my SP4 though battery life could be better.
Silly people complaining about 4gb ram....
deleted103252022nd Feb

That's simply not true, it will do anything the 8gb will just not quite as …That's simply not true, it will do anything the 8gb will just not quite as fast (that's what virtual memory does) The biggest drawback is 128gb storage, although a fast microsd car or small usb can help with that.


There would be a noticeable difference between 4 and 8GB considering x64 recognises available RAM at 3.5GB and the system probably uses a good 2-2.5GB on lower tasks.
Also to note this doesn't come with pen and pen is 99 to buy
Got one on black Friday i5 one was slightly disappointed in pen price
4GB on a windows machine won’t get you anywhere and for those that say it is adequate might as well have spent £200 and just got a chrome book and moved to browser only web apps.

The surface and the surface books are great devices but the 4GB models are gimped and a complete waste of time - 8GB minimum. Even Apple only sell laptops with 8GB RAM nowadays and Mac OS memory management is unrivalled.
This is an excellent machine... Good price, heat!
deleted103252022nd Feb

That's simply not true, it will do anything the 8gb will just not quite as …That's simply not true, it will do anything the 8gb will just not quite as fast (that's what virtual memory does) The biggest drawback is 128gb storage, although a fast microsd car or small usb can help with that.


No... Applications are loaded into RAM. When it runs out you start loading things in disk which is MUCH slower. More ram = more stuff opened. Using page caching isn't an option as it causes issues with loads of applications. $GB is not sufficient for anything more than basic use.
Spending 750 on a windows tablet with 4gb....makes no sense. I agree 4gb is OK but not for something this price...
I thought it was 350! Lol
Having used 9 MS surfaces since the RP days (I know I know) for home and work I can confirm the more RAM the better... that said at this price for everyday use I would call it a deal. It just wouldnt meet my performance needs. 8gb ram and core5 is the vaule imo.. and thats probally why they are rarely discounted heavily % wise at that spec.
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jimbo00122 m ago

I thought it was 350! Lol


I read it that way too , was about to cream...
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fringiee41 m ago

No... Applications are loaded into RAM. When it runs out you start loading …No... Applications are loaded into RAM. When it runs out you start loading things in disk which is MUCH slower. More ram = more stuff opened. Using page caching isn't an option as it causes issues with loads of applications. $GB is not sufficient for anything more than basic use.


Basic use? Utter rubbish. And if you actually read my post it said virtual memory is slower, but it will still achieve the same tasks.

You make out that it would burst into flames opening two emails...
Blows my mind that they even bother with 4GB RAM. The actual difference in production cost would be minimal. Do they really think the original bundle price of over £1100 was acceptable with that in mind? I hear people moaning at Apple for their spec to price ratio all the time but it seems they're not the only ones.

I'm sure this is a nice machine for those who want a foldable device with nice build quality and a touch screen but it would irk me that such an otherwise capable workhorse has been gimped by low RAM when it could otherwise have been good for large spreadsheets and other productivity uses. You notice hobbled RAM when you push it.
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Basic use? Utter rubbish. And if you actually read my post it said virtual …Basic use? Utter rubbish. And if you actually read my post it said virtual memory is slower, but it will still achieve the same tasks.You make out that it would burst into flames opening two emails...


Literally 2-3 days ago one of our servers ram was overused so we couldn't perform an action in one of our environments. You can't game on like 95% usage without a huge FPS drop. Lots of situations where things just simple won't work when you don't have enough RAM. This is only a non issue for basic use.
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fringiee12 m ago

Literally 2-3 days ago one of our servers ram was overused so we couldn't …Literally 2-3 days ago one of our servers ram was overused so we couldn't perform an action in one of our environments. You can't game on like 95% usage without a huge FPS drop. Lots of situations where things just simple won't work when you don't have enough RAM. This is only a non issue for basic use.


This machine is clearly not a server nor a gaming machine....i'm afraid you are wrong.

I agree the 8gb version is a lot better, but I've used several of these for non basic tasks and they are fine.
deleted103252022nd Feb

This machine is clearly not a server nor a gaming machine....i'm afraid …This machine is clearly not a server nor a gaming machine....i'm afraid you are wrong.I agree the 8gb version is a lot better, but I've used several of these for non basic tasks and they are fine.


What are your "non basic" tasks. I was stating examples, I don't see how my points were invalid like how you're claiming.
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fringiee13 m ago

What are your "non basic" tasks. I was stating examples, I don't see how …What are your "non basic" tasks. I was stating examples, I don't see how my points were invalid like how you're claiming.


I didn't see any examples, you mentioned a server running out of ram (irrelevant) and games, (also irrelevant as it GPU is not designed for the task).
We are currently testing these for a corporate roll out, we bought 40 to test and believe me they are fine, I have one here and sitting idle with email, excel, PowerPoint ten browser tabs open it's got 60% memory free.
The minimum memory to run Windows 10 is actually 1ghz with 1gb, yes it runs like a dog at 1gb but it is Microsofts minimum requirement.
deleted103252022nd Feb

I didn't see any examples, you mentioned a server running out of ram …I didn't see any examples, you mentioned a server running out of ram (irrelevant) and games, (also irrelevant as it GPU is not designed for the task). We are currently testing these for a corporate roll out, we bought 40 to test and believe me they are fine, I have one here and sitting idle with email, excel, PowerPoint ten browser tabs open it's got 60% memory free. The minimum memory to run Windows 10 is actually 1ghz with 1gb, yes it runs like a dog at 1gb but it is Microsofts minimum requirement.


Gaming is an example, not being able to perform an action on a server is another (I spared you the specifics but it was uploading a master page [a type of file] to SharePoint) - both are examples of non basic tasks. You attempt to throw out my examples by saying they aren't suitable for the surface which is irrelevant as my point was you will run into issues when doing non basic tasks on 4gb of RAM (regardless of the system you use) - I just gave you examples which justify my initial point (I could have said video editing etc).
You just gave me an example of basic use (Excel can chew through RAM but it sounds like you have one small spreadsheet open).. How is powerpoint, email etc not basic???
Why would you set a surface to the minimum settings to save on RAM... It's a very expensive portable device and you're disabling things like Personalization to save on your RAM usage...?? Even then 1GB RAM usage is in 32bit mode, 2gb is required by Windows 10 for 64 bit. The reason why Windows can use so little is so that it has great compatibility with low end hardware, a Surface isn't low end hardware - just because it has the capability doesn't mean it's meant to be used in that way.

I should mention I really want a surface but 8gb is the minimum for me (12gb+ is ideal), in terms of CPU etc it's fine & you're trying to tell me 4gb is sufficient while I'm not able to buy a 4gb surface without running into issues? The Surface is used by lots of developers (usually as a complimentary device) and all would say 4gb isn't enough and generally any form of power user will also find 4gb isn't enough.

Anyways I'm done - if you think powerpoint, email etc is an advanced use of a pc then what's the point?
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fringiee30 m ago

Gaming is an example, not being able to perform an action on a server is …Gaming is an example, not being able to perform an action on a server is another (I spared you the specifics but it was uploading a master page [a type of file] to SharePoint) - both are examples of non basic tasks. You attempt to throw out my examples by saying they aren't suitable for the surface which is irrelevant as my point was you will run into issues when doing non basic tasks on 4gb of RAM (regardless of the system you use) - I just gave you examples which justify my initial point (I could have said video editing etc). You just gave me an example of basic use (Excel can chew through RAM but it sounds like you have one small spreadsheet open).. How is powerpoint, email etc not basic???Why would you set a surface to the minimum settings to save on RAM... It's a very expensive portable device and you're disabling things like Personalization to save on your RAM usage...?? Even then 1GB RAM usage is in 32bit mode, 2gb is required by Windows 10 for 64 bit. The reason why Windows can use so little is so that it has great compatibility with low end hardware, a Surface isn't low end hardware - just because it has the capability doesn't mean it's meant to be used in that way.I should mention I really want a surface but 8gb is the minimum for me (12gb+ is ideal), in terms of CPU etc it's fine & you're trying to tell me 4gb is sufficient while I'm not able to buy a 4gb surface without running into issues? The Surface is used by lots of developers (usually as a complimentary device) and all would say 4gb isn't enough and generally any form of power user will also find 4gb isn't enough.Anyways I'm done - if you think powerpoint, email etc is an advanced use of a pc then what's the point?


I didn't say it was an advanced example, and you are being very condescending towards me, I'm not an idiot.
I own two, yes two surface pros one SP3 and one 2017 (they dropped the "5" for 2017) both are i5 8gb/256gb versions, I also have access to our test corporate machines as a direct side by side comparison so I know first hand that you are wrong about the performance being such a huge margin it's simply not.

Anyway you enjoy being wrong in off to bed.
I bought this a couple of months ago when it was on offer. I had a surface pro 3 previously which I liked but I thought the battery life was not great

This model is really nice and battery life is not bad at all. It's the first model where I don't find I have to take the charger everywhere.

The biggest downside I find isn't the ram but the disk space, although I have added a fast micro SD card.

In regards to the people that talk about the ram being not sufficient for basic tasks I guess they never used one. As an example I have a full version of sql server 2016 running on mine and it's fine but each to their own
As much as I like Microsoft, these idiots released updates which broke their own proprietary keyboards. What's worse it's been like this for almost 2 months, they can't fix and as it's out of warranty I'm screwed. Absolute joke.
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Basic use? Utter rubbish. And if you actually read my post it said virtual …Basic use? Utter rubbish. And if you actually read my post it said virtual memory is slower, but it will still achieve the same tasks.You make out that it would burst into flames opening two emails...



Agreed. Virtual Memory, if configured, will be utilised (no matter how simple or complex the task is). I am a software developer and can say that the type of task involved is irrelevant. When memory is required, it has to be allocated whether by using simple malloc commands or allocating based on structure size multiplied by number of elements to store a list of structures. No matter how it is allocated, the OS will look for a contiguous block of memory of the user-specified fixed size, firstly in system RAM and secondly in virtual memory. This process is handled entirely by the OS (and the BIOS and drivers). It is totally independent of the application and since the request for memory is handled mainly by the OS, the application that requested it has no control over it.

The mention of a server going down due to lack of memory is probably due to virtual memory being exhausted, in which case, the application that requested it was given a NULL pointer returned by the OS to signify memory (whether in system RAM or Virtual Memory) was not allocated. When an application receives NULL pointers, it should handle that in a graceful manner but if it tries to access the NULL pointer, it will crash and take down the entire application. That may be what Fringiee may be describing (but it's difficult to read). I see this behavior in my own code where I have not correctly handled the situation and I certainly see it in several other applications
I think I'll get the i7 version of this over the iPad for notes in Uni
I can give someone a student discount if this comes up again
Looking to replace the notepad and pen I bring to every flipping meeting/customer site only to have to type up notes later. Would people use this (with pen) for that? Have my laptop with me always but just don't get the freedom on/options of pen and paper - just want the electronic version
deleted103252022nd Feb

This machine is clearly not a server nor a gaming machine....i'm afraid …This machine is clearly not a server nor a gaming machine....i'm afraid you are wrong.I agree the 8gb version is a lot better, but I've used several of these for non basic tasks and they are fine.


I've added this example before, but here it is again. My 2017 SP i5/128GB/4GB runs the following at once with no performance issues:

Word with multiple large documents (2,000 - 20,000 words)
Excel with a large gant chart and currently 20 worksheets
Nvivo with currently 30 large documents open for analysis
Mendeley with my entire literature library
OneNote with all of my work notes
Spotify
Chrome with many tabs open
E-mail
Facebook
Twitter
Skype
Adobe Acrobat with multiple PDF documents
All your usual background synchronising, including two onedrive accounts.

Sent to two 1080p monitors.
mattjames19801 h, 5 m ago

Looking to replace the notepad and pen I bring to every flipping …Looking to replace the notepad and pen I bring to every flipping meeting/customer site only to have to type up notes later. Would people use this (with pen) for that? Have my laptop with me always but just don't get the freedom on/options of pen and paper - just want the electronic version


That's where the Suface Pro is particularly excellent. You'll need to buy the pen though.
4GB is limiting, but so is 8, 16, 32... depends on what you're doing.
As a software developer I would get frustrated using the 4GB version as my only machine, but I have a 16GB MacBook and 16GB (going to 32) desktop for heaver tasks, so this is a useful ultra portable device for travel/walks with a great screen. so basic web browsing is good.. and if I need to I can run Lightroom, or build code.. it will be slower. I certainly won't be running vms or docker tho. But then I do more of that on cloud based machines anyway.

It is what it is.. I got mine for 620.. I've not seen the i5/8GB for less than £1000. that is a completely different price bracket.

if I was a mobile worker and needed good capability out and about to rely on, and couldn't use the macbook/pc so much then I'd HAVE to go 8GB or even 16GB if I really needed everything. As an only machine £2k can make sense for a professional (tho I like my MacBook in other ways!)
prikkles20 h, 12 m ago

It's only 4gb of RAM. That's not enough for anything more than basic …It's only 4gb of RAM. That's not enough for anything more than basic operations. I'd wait for an offer on an 8gb model. It might be a bit more but it'd be worth it to save up the extra cash.



Define basic operations. I'm quite happy using mine to play Civ VI, or multitask with Office and a web browser with multiple tabs open while having Spotify on in the background.
mcav1 h, 58 m ago

That's where the Suface Pro is particularly excellent. You'll need to buy …That's where the Suface Pro is particularly excellent. You'll need to buy the pen though.



I bought the Wacom Bamboo stylus (with Windows Ink). You can get it for around £50 and the only thing its missing is tilt control for drawing/shading.
DarrylJohn6 h, 46 m ago

As much as I like Microsoft, these idiots released updates which broke …As much as I like Microsoft, these idiots released updates which broke their own proprietary keyboards. What's worse it's been like this for almost 2 months, they can't fix and as it's out of warranty I'm screwed. Absolute joke.



The latest amendment to the Consumer Rights Act means that you can claim for hardware that's been damaged by software. They'll argue that the keyboard is out of warranty but just make sure to stress that its the software (update) that is defective and that's what you are requesting a repair/replacement for.
Mattevansc332 m ago

I bought the Wacom Bamboo stylus (with Windows Ink). You can get it for …I bought the Wacom Bamboo stylus (with Windows Ink). You can get it for around £50 and the only thing its missing is tilt control for drawing/shading.


Nice! The Surface Pro has served me incredibly well at meetings, conferences, lectures, symposiums etc... Anywhere where I might want to scribble down notes instead of clacking at a keyboard.
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