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Suzuki Vitara SUV - 36 Month Lease - 3 Months Upfront Payment - £161.23 Per Month - (Total Cost £6,425.74 / £178.49/mth) @ What Car? Leasing
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Suzuki Vitara SUV - 36 Month Lease - 3 Months Upfront Payment - £161.23 Per Month - (Total Cost £6,425.74 / £178.49/mth) @ What Car? Leasing

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Posted 3rd Jul

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Thought this was an SUPERB deal for a 36 month lease, with only three months up front payment and a £161 a month cost.

Deal includes free delivery, road tax, breakdown insurance and manufacturers warranty.

£299 admin fee.
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Your maths appears to be wrong: ((£161.23 x (3+35)) + £299 admin fee = £6,425.74 or £178.49/net/mth.
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metallic paint is the biggest scam out £500 extra is a joke I worked in motor manuafaxture industry and the production paint shop manager told me it cost the company about £10 extra to spray in metallic paint
TheLondonCyclist03/07/2019 16:47

I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being …I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being taxed for being on the road, you're taxed for VED.


Because people know what it is when it is referred to as "Road tax". Even you seem to know!
If your motor vehicle if off the road (SORN) then you don't pay VED. But if you do then want to take it on the road you need to tax it. So essentially it is a tax for taking it on the road.

Much like people know you are a London Cyclists but know you don't only cycle round London (when you could just walk). But the reality is you are a Greater London cyclist.

What I don't get is why cyclists use the term "filtering" when it's actually "Overtaking".

Or that Red-Green colour blindness is disproportionately high in cyclists.

The wonders of the world!
Your maths appears to be wrong: ((£161.23 x (3+35)) + £299 admin fee = £6,425.74 or £178.49/net/mth.
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Your maths appears to be wrong: ((£161.23 x (3+35)) + £299 admin fee = £6,425.74 or £178.49/net/mth.
Are those pictures the actual variation of car you get?
rdajackson03/07/2019 11:06

Are those pictures the actual variation of car you get?


Looks very similar:

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You'll need to add the cost of metallic paint as the cars they have remaining in stock are all metallic paint. Only white is no additional cost and they're all gone.
Edited by: "gazcarts" 3rd Jul
Is this "bigger" than a qashqai?
JustinScot03/07/2019 11:23

Is this "bigger" than a qashqai?


No, I have this car and would say it is somewhere between the Juke & Qashqai. Although likewise from a retail price point of view. This is significantly cheaper too
m5rcc03/07/2019 11:24

No. A Qashqai is longer and wider.


So to compare to a qashqai you would go for suzuki sx4. Which is bigger then a vitara.
metallic paint is the biggest scam out £500 extra is a joke I worked in motor manuafaxture industry and the production paint shop manager told me it cost the company about £10 extra to spray in metallic paint
Nayno03/07/2019 11:40

So to compare to a qashqai you would go for suzuki sx4. Which is bigger …So to compare to a qashqai you would go for suzuki sx4. Which is bigger then a vitara.


An SX4 is ever so marginally bigger than a Vitara.
Is this vehicle 4 wheel drive?
joejames1103/07/2019 11:43

metallic paint is the biggest scam out £500 extra is a joke I worked in …metallic paint is the biggest scam out £500 extra is a joke I worked in motor manuafaxture industry and the production paint shop manager told me it cost the company about £10 extra to spray in metallic paint


Yes! I got a full respray done- sources the paint myself. Chose one with certain metallic bits in it.
It added £12 to the bill!
Suzuki score well in terms of reliability and topped a recent What Car survey...

am-online.com/new…018

We've got four in the family (all Celerios) and they've all been faultless.
Have this car and only problem I have is you really need to slam the boot hard to get it closed, apart from that it's great. Can fit 5adults comfortably.
Vastly preferrable to a Joke/Puke/Juke.
I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being taxed for being on the road, you're taxed for VED.
I had an old Vitara along time ago and it wasn't bad. Seems like they shrunk the new one in the washing machine looks so tiny and has little road presence for a 4x4.
If you opt for one month upfront then monthly payment increases to £170.20 - total cost is about £10 more over 3 years. Personally prefer this to 3 month up front deal but appreciate not for everyone (interest earned on cash not paid up front should make up most of the difference).
TheLondonCyclist03/07/2019 16:47

I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being …I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being taxed for being on the road, you're taxed for VED.


It's s real mystery
TheLondonCyclist03/07/2019 16:47

I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being …I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being taxed for being on the road, you're taxed for VED.


Because people know what it is when it is referred to as "Road tax". Even you seem to know!
If your motor vehicle if off the road (SORN) then you don't pay VED. But if you do then want to take it on the road you need to tax it. So essentially it is a tax for taking it on the road.

Much like people know you are a London Cyclists but know you don't only cycle round London (when you could just walk). But the reality is you are a Greater London cyclist.

What I don't get is why cyclists use the term "filtering" when it's actually "Overtaking".

Or that Red-Green colour blindness is disproportionately high in cyclists.

The wonders of the world!
TheLondonCyclist03/07/2019 16:47

I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being …I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being taxed for being on the road, you're taxed for VED.


Or why people still say Hoover instead of...
Or some people say Colgate instead of...
Or Jacuzzi instead of... etc etc etc
JustinScot03/07/2019 11:23

Is this "bigger" than a qashqai?


From what I've read it will most likely be a lot more reliable, but it is also smaller.
One of the ugliest cars I've ever seen I will pay £180 a month to keep one off the road
Edited by: "ryan.cope" 3rd Jul
Looks pretty good deal have some heat in hot weather
One litre engine is vastly underpowered in real world use and has to be revved hard, meaning you'll never get the 50+ mpg quoted.
TheLondonCyclist03/07/2019 16:47

I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being …I don't get why drivers still use the term "road tax". You're not being taxed for being on the road, you're taxed for VED.


Do you still call a “hoover” a hoover or are you a “vacuum cleaner” user?
Do you tape things on the tele or do you record on the television?
Pointlessusername04/07/2019 06:16

Do you still call a “hoover” a hoover or are you a “vacuum cleaner” user?Do …Do you still call a “hoover” a hoover or are you a “vacuum cleaner” user?Do you tape things on the tele or do you record on the television?


Do you use a tannoy or a public address system?
Belter of a deal for a SUV, yes it will be slow ( but not as slow as the old 1.6 petrol )

To the lease haters I once owned a 10 year old civic and worked out it was still costing me £150pm in depreciation, road tax, maintenance, breakdown cover, extra insurance ( I’ve found new cars cheaper to insure ) over a 3 year period, even older cars do cost a surprisingly large amount a month to “own”
Edited by: "Bikerdanny" 4th Jul
futura04/07/2019 01:14

One litre engine is vastly underpowered in real world use and has to be …One litre engine is vastly underpowered in real world use and has to be revved hard, meaning you'll never get the 50+ mpg quoted.


Incorrect:

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Here's a question for you guys, but before I go any further let me say I'M VERY PRO LEASING! So please no douchey comments, genuine opinions only...

I was talking to a chap who works for a main dealer and he reckons that used cars that are only 2-3 years will still continue to depreciate at a fast rate for the few years that follow. He believes that a 2-3 year old car will lose roughly another 50% in value by the time it's 4-5 years old.

Now, I currently lease an Audi A4, and my other half drives an 8 year old A3. In terms of used cars, I've only ever purchased at this sort of age so haven't experienced that level of depreciation. In other words, I don't have any experience of buying 2-3 year old used vehicles and selling them 1-2 years later. Can any one comment on their experience of the above?
Edited by: "DevK" 4th Jul
What are the other things (alloy protection ?) that the dealer would try to sell - thats worth considering or avoiding ?
DevK04/07/2019 15:43

I was talking to a chap who works for a main dealer and he reckons that …I was talking to a chap who works for a main dealer and he reckons that used cars that are only 2-3 years will still continue to depreciate at a fast rate for the few years that follow. He believes that a 2-3 year old car will lose roughly another 50% in value by the time it's 4-5 years old.Now, I currently lease an Audi A4, and my other half drives an 8 year old A3. In terms of used cars, I've only ever purchased at this sort of age so haven't experienced that level of depreciation. In other words, I don't have any experience of buying 2-3 year old used vehicles and selling them 1-2 years later. Can any one comment on their experience of the above?



Will a 2-3yo car continue to depreciate? Of course, yes.
Will it depreciate 'fast'? How long is a piece of string?
Will it depreciate in the years 3-6 just as fast as in the first 3 years? Definitely not.


Car depreciation is not linear, and the steepest drop in value is as soon as you roll off the dealer forecourt and it gradually slows down. From a certain point onwards, it's about finding a sweet spot that you find acceptable between how much this asset loses value vs how old and crap of a car you want to drive.
A 10-15 yo Fiesta or Yaris for instance is already worth peanuts. At this age point, it won't depreciate at a significant rate, and your biggest costs will be fuel (where older cars are worse), maintenance/repairs and insurance. But then again, you will be driving a banger that even if its reliable, it will invariably be dirtier, less safe and less comfortable than a more recent used car.

Check the graphs in this: bytes.schibsted.com/pri…ta/


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Edited by: "diktiomenos" 4th Jul
diktiomenos04/07/2019 22:58

Will a 2-3yo car continue to depreciate? Of course, yes.Will it depreciate …Will a 2-3yo car continue to depreciate? Of course, yes.Will it depreciate 'fast'? How long is a piece of string?Will it depreciate in the years 3-6 just as fast as in the first 3 years? Definitely not.Car depreciation is not linear, and the steepest drop in value is as soon as you roll off the dealer forecourt and it gradually slows down. From a certain point onwards, it's about finding a sweet spot that you find acceptable between how much this asset loses value vs how old and crap of a car you want to drive.A 10-15 yo Fiesta or Yaris for instance is already worth peanuts. At this age point, it won't depreciate at a significant rate, and your biggest costs will be fuel (where older cars are worse), maintenance/repairs and insurance. But then again, you will be driving a banger that even if its reliable, it will invariably be dirtier, less safe and less comfortable than a more recent used car.Check the graphs in this: http://bytes.schibsted.com/price-car-data/[Image]


Hi bud,

Thanks for your reply. Although I must admit I already knew (and agree with) all of that.

To give this more perspective....

I'm currently debating either buying a used BMW 3 series, or leasing it new. And it all boils down to residual value.

The common debate between lease VS purchase is always centred around the cars being new. In this case it's almost always going to be more cost effective to lease.

In my scenario, we're talking about buying used but only a few years old (within warranty) VS leasing new. And this is a case which is not often discussed.

As you say, depreciation is unpredictable and not linear. And unfortunately it's one of the most important pieces of the puzzle!!

For me it comes down to.... If I buy used and sell 2 years later, will the money lost in depreciation be more or less than what the cost of leasing would be, considering that the most significant portion of depreciation has already passed.

Note: in all cases I'm assuming 2 years ownership / 10k miles PA.

Also - I'm not looking for an actual yes or no answer to this all. Just opinions.
Edited by: "DevK" 4th Jul
I bought a late facelift 2014 Grand Vitara a few months ago(the last of the UK models),very happy with it...
great to drive and very nippy for its size and it's proper 4 wheel drive with high+low ratio Diff locks(2.4 petrol 170bhp,
38003213-zdqLY.jpg decent mpg as well)...yes it's fairly basic but thats what I wanted as I do my own maintenance.... comparing it to my previous Rav4 which I still have the Suzuki is very well built.....shame they shrunk the new model in size but I think they are making a new Grand Vitara next year....oddly enough my model is still available new in Australia/Asia/Africa....I think they are a very underated brand....couldn't care less what it loses in value,I got a cracking deal on it,probably drive it into the ground lol.....it's predecessor,the Rav4 was 900 quid 9 years ago,used it every day,it's been faultless ...lol...just mot'd it a few weeks back...still not too shabby for 21 years old...pic taken last week.38003213-ct2hM.jpg
Edited by: "BattleBeast1" 6th Jul
DevK04/07/2019 23:10

Hi bud,Thanks for your reply. Although I must admit I already knew (and …Hi bud,Thanks for your reply. Although I must admit I already knew (and agree with) all of that. To give this more perspective....I'm currently debating either buying a used BMW 3 series, or leasing it new. And it all boils down to residual value. The common debate between lease VS purchase is always centred around the cars being new. In this case it's almost always going to be more cost effective to lease. In my scenario, we're talking about buying used but only a few years old (within warranty) VS leasing new. And this is a case which is not often discussed. As you say, depreciation is unpredictable and not linear. And unfortunately it's one of the most important pieces of the puzzle!!For me it comes down to.... If I buy used and sell 2 years later, will the money lost in depreciation be more or less than what the cost of leasing would be, considering that the most significant portion of depreciation has already passed. Note: in all cases I'm assuming 2 years ownership / 10k miles PA. Also - I'm not looking for an actual yes or no answer to this all. Just opinions.


Not complicated. Just look on auto trader how much a 2 year-old model is selling for. Compare that to new price 2 years ago.
mittromney20/07/2019 02:34

Not complicated. Just look on auto trader how much a 2 year-old model is …Not complicated. Just look on auto trader how much a 2 year-old model is selling for. Compare that to new price 2 years ago.


I wish it was this simple! I really do!

Unfortunately the Autotrader will tell me the forecourt pricing of traders. Given that private sellers generally must sell for less, and that traders generally inflate their prices, it means that the Autotrader is quite inaccurate to go by.
DevK20/07/2019 08:15

I wish it was this simple! I really do!Unfortunately the Autotrader will …I wish it was this simple! I really do!Unfortunately the Autotrader will tell me the forecourt pricing of traders. Given that private sellers generally must sell for less, and that traders generally inflate their prices, it means that the Autotrader is quite inaccurate to go by.


Check out parkers, that gives real life estimates of values and a lot of the motor trade use this for their valuations.
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