Sylvania ES50 LES Accent Lamp GU10 140Lm 2.5W - £1.79 @ Screwfix
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Sylvania ES50 LES Accent Lamp GU10 140Lm 2.5W - £1.79 @ Screwfix

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Found 8th Jul 2014Made hot 8th Jul 2014
Im sure these aren't premium, but for the price I think you would be hard to beat.

2 Year Manufacturer's Guarantee
For use as Accent Lighting
Warm White
Low Energy
Direct Retrofit
Equivalent Wattage: 25W
Model No: 26750View

Specifications:
Dia. x L: 51 x 56mm. 3000K. Beam angle: 50°. Non-dimmable. 140Lm.

37 Comments

Original Poster

Forgot to say, down from £7.59

Very very good

Im assuming they're not dimmable

Cheung16

Im assuming they're not dimmable



Its in the OP:

Specifications:
Dia. x L: 51 x 56mm. 3000K. Beam angle: 50°. Non-dimmable. 140Lm.

and very low light - lumens
would rather look for something of fleabay at £10 for 3 or 4 pcs.

unles you need some low mood lighting

I agree, they need to be 300 lumens upwards to be any real use to light a room, wouldn't worry about dimming these. As it states, accent lighting only

I think 140lm is almost useless for any application. At 3000k, this will just produce a small amount of light with no ambience. The problem with LED and dimming LED is that the colour temperature is not reduced in line with the light output. When you dim an incandescent lamp, the colour temperature reduces too, which creates an increasingly warm light and corresponding 'cosy ambience'. With the exception of remote phosphor lamp types, a 3000k LED lamp still emits a 3000k light no matter how many lumens you dim it to.

Good buy IMO.

Worth mentioning they are only £1.79 if you buy6 or more, £1.99 per bulb for smaller quantities.

Yes they are low lumen, but will offer a comparable output to a 25W Halogen bulb with a 90% reduction in running costs.

Perfect for background lighting or to run in conjunction with higher power LED's.

Thanks OP.

Banned

140lm?!

the one's on ebay are better than this, and significantly cheaper.
freezing cold!

hukdealz

140lm?!the one's on ebay are better than this, and significantly … 140lm?!the one's on ebay are better than this, and significantly cheaper.freezing cold!


Then why don't you post them?

hukdealz

140lm?!the one's on ebay are better than this, and significantly … 140lm?!the one's on ebay are better than this, and significantly cheaper.freezing cold!



So if I need a few lights to set the mood, are you saying I'd be best getting one of those Batman Search Lights instead.

Also, by better you mean brighter, which isn't better in many applications.
As for reliability, you'd be best buying from a local store than try returning a failed one to a fleabay seller.

Oh while I remember, voted hot to counter the idiots who can't read.

This is a 25w equivalent bulb, not a Lighthouse regeneration scheme.

Banned

Oneday77

Oh while I remember, voted hot to counter the idiots who can't read. This … Oh while I remember, voted hot to counter the idiots who can't read. This is a 25w equivalent bulb, not a Lighthouse regeneration scheme.




the bulb uses 2.5w to produce 140lm which is exceptionally low light production for the wattage considering its an LED bulb. For a 2.5w you'd expect at least 240lm

Banned

ukhotdeals1

Then why don't you post them?



because HUKD doesn't allow the majority of eBay sellers for some reason, and because they'd go cold due to the nature of the site

toonarmani

Its in the OP:Specifications:Dia. x L: 51 x 56mm. 3000K. Beam angle: 50°. … Its in the OP:Specifications:Dia. x L: 51 x 56mm. 3000K. Beam angle: 50°. Non-dimmable. 140Lm.



My bad. Misread it

You need to buy 6 to get this price!

rule of thumb (i use FWIW): divide Lumin value by 10, then take off a bit.

so; 120lm ~ 10W

Halogen bulbs are slightly more eff. so this is even worse, since the comparison is with them.

120lm ~ 8W (halogen)

shortterm

...Halogen bulbs are slightly more eff. so this is even worse, since the … ...Halogen bulbs are slightly more eff. so this is even worse, since the comparison is with them.


In energy conversion terms, Halogen bulbs are inefficient compared to LED, as they loose around 75% of their input energy to radiated heat, and less than 10% is converted to useful visible light.
Whilst LEDS still produce heat, around 15% of their input energy is converted to visible light - {much lower than I first thought when I started researching this}

i was comparing LED with standard, low pressure tungsten filament bulbs, for the divide by 10, rule-of-thumb.

for Halogens, which are slightly more eff, than THOSE (not LED) the rule-off-thumb needs to be slight lower.

or to put it another way;

to replace a 50w halogen, requires more lumen than replacing a 50w 'standard' bulb.

if these are so crap at giving the right amount of light ....... please someone indicate where are the better one which give good lighting and running cost is less ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

STi_prodrive

if these are so crap at giving the right amount of light ....... please … if these are so crap at giving the right amount of light ....... please someone indicate where are the better one which give good lighting and running cost is less ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Amen brother

I currently have 12V 14W halogen downlights in the kitchen pelmet. If I swapped the fittings for 240V GU10 would these bulbs give similar light?
Thanks in advance.

hukdealz

140lm?!the one's on ebay are better than this, and significantly … 140lm?!the one's on ebay are better than this, and significantly cheaper.freezing cold!



Personally would never buy LED bulbs from Ebay again after 3 G4 LED bulbs (from China) overheated and melted the holders they were in. I managed to switch off whilst they were still smouldering.

Not all like that I am sure. But I personally would put safety before price.

amazon.co.uk/gp/…_12?qid=1404888942&sr=8-12π=AC_SX110_SY165

4.5w 310lm 300k £1.99 each (£19.99 for 10)

andynicol

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00G556MMO/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?qid=1404888942&sr=8-12&pi=AC_SX110_SY1654.5w 310lm 300k £1.99 each (£19.99 for 10)



Sent straight from China, good luck when one fails, which it will.

KEG123

Personally would never buy LED bulbs from Ebay again after 3 G4 LED bulbs … Personally would never buy LED bulbs from Ebay again after 3 G4 LED bulbs (from China) overheated and melted the holders they were in. I managed to switch off whilst they were still smouldering.Not all like that I am sure. But I personally would put safety before price.



Did you change the transformer you were using first? A common mistake is that people plug LED G4's into standard fittings without changing the driver/transformer first, this would give the overheating you mentioned. I'm not for one second saying you did this, it's just one potential thing to look out for, 12v LED bulbs are trickier than 240V.

123Answer

Sent straight from China, good luck when one fails, which it will.



Ignore that link then

I bought 10 from Amazon before @ around £20 and they defffo never came from China, done a quick search from mobile and thought it was those, obviously not.

Will have a look tonight from home see if I can find the link, bought them around 2 months ago, all fine up to now.

123Answer

Did you change the transformer you were using first? A common mistake is … Did you change the transformer you were using first? A common mistake is that people plug LED G4's into standard fittings without changing the driver/transformer first, this would give the overheating you mentioned. I'm not for one second saying you did this, it's just one potential thing to look out for, 12v LED bulbs are trickier than 240V.



Yes, the bulbs were within the load limit of the transformer. I've actually replaced with slightly more expensive bulbs (from Amazon direct) and they are perfect.

The bulbs that failed and overheated did so within about 5 minutes of switching on. Comparing the 'electronics' behind the bulb (they are in a flattened, disc-like configuration) the cheap Ebay bulbs are really, really basic when compared with the more expensive type.

I won't ever buy cheap stuff like that again. Simply not worth the risk.

TO THE EXPERT: to fit my existing g10 or low wattage(will change the fitting inside to g10 holder) what model size would do the job(please list all)?? In order to be clipped safely same as the one I got.
Thank You

KEG123

Yes, the bulbs were within the load limit of the transformer. I've … Yes, the bulbs were within the load limit of the transformer. I've actually replaced with slightly more expensive bulbs (from Amazon direct) and they are perfect.The bulbs that failed and overheated did so within about 5 minutes of switching on. Comparing the 'electronics' behind the bulb (they are in a flattened, disc-like configuration) the cheap Ebay bulbs are really, really basic when compared with the more expensive type.I won't ever buy cheap stuff like that again. Simply not worth the risk.



Do you mind me asking what brand the ones you went with are? I have tried a few different types and although I haven't had any melt (yet!), I haven't been impressed with the light output or the colour.

amazon.co.uk/Bea…LY/

These are the best value ones available at the moment in my opinion. Works out at £2.99 per bulb, 4W, 260Lm, close to a 40W Halogen. Just my opinion.

123Answer

Do you mind me asking what brand the ones you went with are? I have … Do you mind me asking what brand the ones you went with are? I have tried a few different types and although I haven't had any melt (yet!), I haven't been impressed with the light output or the colour.



these are the G4 bulbs I use: amazon.co.uk/Aur…led

As for GU10, after experimenting with a huge number of brands, find these AVA 6w to be superb and by far the best quality: hotukdeals.com/dea…880

Bought for £3.96 delivered at the time although no longer available.

Edited by: "KEG123" 9th Jul 2014

homebargains.co.uk/pro…spx 2.99 each - I've got 2 of each - white light and white warm - works ok .

123Answer

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beautiful-Replacement-Halogen-Technology-Warranty/dp/B00H99HSLY/These are the best value ones available at the moment in my opinion. Works out at £2.99 per bulb, 4W, 260Lm, close to a 40W Halogen. Just my opinion.



uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Bea…zon

I now have 30 of these fitted. 10 are a month old and all still going fine. The other 20 were purchased last week at aroudn £20 for 10. camelcamelcamel doesn't show that price since it seems to track prices once per day but last week for a few hours the price went down to £20 for 10!!! they are excellent and are brighter than the 50W halogen bulbs they replaced!

I can definitely recommend these from CPC cpc.farnell.com/_/i…908

5.3W LED GU10 with 50LM output that is equivalent light output to a standard 50W GU10.
£3.95 each + vat (£4.74 inc VAT) with free delivery over £5
You won't get anywhere near that price elsewhere for these or any other equivalents.

I bought a couple of them to test out first and found them so good I ordered another 14 for my kitchen! Definitely much brighter than the cheap LED GU10's I had from eBay and they are as bright as the standard GU10 50 Watts I used to use.

I can definitely recommend these from CPC … I can definitely recommend these from CPC http://cpc.farnell.com/_/ilgu105-3n03kbdna/lamp-led-gu10-5-3w-warm-white/dp/LP0724908?Ntt=LP0724908



Oh and this the manufacturer spec for these integral-led.com/pro…amp

123Answer

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beautiful-Replacement-Halogen-Technology-Warranty/dp/B00H99HSLY/These are the best value ones available at the moment in my opinion. Works out at £2.99 per bulb, 4W, 260Lm, close to a 40W Halogen. Just my opinion.



That's the ones I referred to in post #27, got these couple of months ago, all good so far..
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