Synology DiskStation DS215j 2 Bay NAS Storage £133.10 at Amazon (use Flubit!)
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Synology DiskStation DS215j 2 Bay NAS Storage £133.10 at Amazon (use Flubit!)

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Found 26th Jul 2015
Well worth it if your looking for a great NAS. It has double the ram/cpu of ds214se and has got top reviews too:-

trustedreviews.com/syn…iew - 9/10

expertreviews.co.uk/sto…iew - 5/5

pcworld.idg.com.au/rev…56/ - 4.5/5

**********EDIT: Use flubit and ask for "Instant Offer"...you'll get it for £133.10, so it'll be even cheaper. The reason it's a deal is not because it's price is less than previous deals, but it's a good price when compared to the DS214SE which currently is selling for £109.99 and is half it's speed and power**********

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got the DS115 myself but this is a good price

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HankHandsome

got the DS115 myself but this is a good price



Glad to hear it. Currently the DS214SE is on for £109.99, but I think for an extra £26.12, you'd be mad to get the DS214SE as the DS215J has twice the cpu power and twice as much RAM. You also have to bear in mind, that you can't upgrade the cpu/ram, so why not go for the better option, which will last you a long time?
Edited by: "frogbog" 26th Jul 2015

Looks to have good reviews. A simple question. Is a NAS System better for media streaming (To TV, Tablets, Mobiles etc) than just having one PC in the house and Plex?

I already have a HTPC set up. It's not on 24/7. I'm just thinking having an extra thing plugged into the mains will make the elec bill higher.

What are the exact benefits of a NAS? Is it basically store music, files, movies etc on this to share around the house. Does it share via Wifi or is it wired? How many devices can share at once?

HankHandsome

got the DS115 myself but this is a good price

krazyasif786

Looks to have good reviews. A simple question. Is a NAS System better for … Looks to have good reviews. A simple question. Is a NAS System better for media streaming (To TV, Tablets, Mobiles etc) than just having one PC in the house and Plex?I already have a HTPC set up. It's not on 24/7. I'm just thinking having an extra thing plugged into the mains will make the elec bill higher.What are the exact benefits of a NAS? Is it basically store music, files, movies etc on this to share around the house. Does it share via Wifi or is it wired? How many devices can share at once?



The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got 512mb RAM and Dual Core processors and it's also gigabit ethernet compatible as well - the difference being that it's a single bay.

dabs.com/pro…tml



The NAS can basically operate in it's own "world", if you will. As I understand it, you need to have your PC always on and running the PLEX server for it to work around the house, but you don't need that with the NAS as it streams via DLNA. They're fairly low power as well so you can basically leave them on 24/7. I've got mine scheduled to shut down once a week on a sunday morning because I've been led to believe it's good practice to reboot it at least once a week.

Most drives also have built in torrent clients as well so you can also get some kind of automatic downloading going to grab any movies or tv shows directly to the nas drive.

I've got mine connected up via ethernet but i think some drives do have wifi capability. Having it wired in to your home network is the way to go though because it becomes available to every device you have.

Aside from the media capabilities, you can also, for example, run your own personal cloud storage on your nas drive and give yourself enough 'free' space as your drive can cope with.

Another thing you can do with it is use it as your own personal photo storage service - a bit like flickr. The Synology Photo app for the iPhone will automatically upload any and all photos you take to the storage space you allocate.

There's an app called "Sonarr" that's available that will automatically search for and download any television show you can plug in to it as well. Use that in conjunction with Kodi and you've got a fully automated TV service where you'll never miss a single show - you could even feasibly give up sky television if you had it

But that's really just scratching the surface with what you can do with a NAS drive. Personally, I don't know what i'd do without one now.
Edited by: "HankHandsome" 26th Jul 2015

Original Poster

hi krazy,

This model's power consumption is as low as 13.4 watts in full operation and 5.3 watts when hard drive is in hibernation. This would cost you like a tenner for the whole year, assuming you ran it at least 24/7, it would only cost you like a quid per month and that's assuming the average cost of electricity...if your on a cheaper tariff, it costs like 70p per month!!!!

http://s8.postimg.org/862pipss5/Image1.jpg

To answer your other questions, yes it's brilliant to use for media streaming etc. This will hook up to either a switch or router and combined with your router's wireless capability it will provide you with wifi too. I'm not sure about how many devices can be shared at once, but I don't see any limit....however if you plan to do multiple video streams simultaneously, then you may need to look at it's specs and work out if it can handle them. Not 100% sure, but I'd say this model should handle at least 2-3 1080p videos at the same time.
Edited by: "frogbog" 26th Jul 2015

Thanks for the responses guys. I am really considering getting this NAS bay and some WD Reds.

My main usage would be
1. Save my Videos and stream videos using plex or Kodi
2. Back up Documents and Photos

My question is: I have a LG Smart TV (It has Plex installed), I have an iMac and also a PC.
Will this be compatible will all these? Will I be able to view files in Word on my PC on the MAC?

Will it be simple to set up? In terms of
a) Replacing Hard Drives
b) The iMac and PC compatability issue as well as Smart TV and mobiles / tablet streaming?

Thanks for your responses



frogbog

hi krazy, This model's power consumption is as low as 13.4 watts in full … hi krazy, This model's power consumption is as low as 13.4 watts in full operation and 5.3 watts when hard drive is in hibernation. This would cost you like a tenner for the whole year, assuming you ran it at least 24/7, it would only cost you like a quid per month and that's assuming the average cost of electricity...if your on a cheaper tariff, it costs like 70p per month!!!!To answer your other questions, yes it's brilliant to use for media streaming etc. This will hook up to either a switch or router and combined with your router's wireless capability it will provide you with wifi too. I'm not sure about how many devices can be shared at once, but I don't see any limit....however if you plan to do multiple video streams simultaneously, then you may need to look at it's specs and work out if it can handle them. Not 100% sure, but I'd say this model should handle at least 2-3 1080p videos at the same time.

HankHandsome

got the DS115 myself but this is a good price

krazyasif786

Looks to have good reviews. A simple question. Is a NAS System better … Looks to have good reviews. A simple question. Is a NAS System better for media streaming (To TV, Tablets, Mobiles etc) than just having one PC in the house and Plex?I already have a HTPC set up. It's not on 24/7. I'm just thinking having an extra thing plugged into the mains will make the elec bill higher.What are the exact benefits of a NAS? Is it basically store music, files, movies etc on this to share around the house. Does it share via Wifi or is it wired? How many devices can share at once?



Edited by: "krazyasif786" 26th Jul 2015

The Synology drives are fully compatible with macs so you should be fine.

The hard drives are very easy to replace - I moved the one I had from my old DS114 (which came from my older MyCloud) to my new DS115 very easily - you just plug it in to the drive bay, use the 4 drive screws in the same way you would if you were putting the drive into a desktop and you're away.

it's very similar with this one - check out this unboxing video on youtube that shows you how to install the drives

youtu.be/Tz6…208

This particular drive isn't actually compatible with PLEX, but as long as your LG television has DLNA capability, you'll have no issues.

Basically, once you've got the NAS wired in to your home network, you should be able to see it with any device.

And the Synology ones do have a range of apps that you can install in iOS and Android that will allow you full remote access as well.


Edited by: "HankHandsome" 26th Jul 2015

Original Poster

Krazy, funny enough, you have similar setup to myself. The synology DS215j is designed in mind for streaming videos, although I couldn't give you an answer regarding kodi/plex...maybe someone else can help you with this.

Hard drives are simple to replace and the DS215j is compatible with both mac and pc.

frogbog

Krazy, funny enough, you have similar setup to myself. The synology … Krazy, funny enough, you have similar setup to myself. The synology DS215j is designed in mind for streaming videos, although I couldn't give you an answer regarding kodi/plex...maybe someone else can help you with this.Hard drives are simple to replace and the DS215j is compatible with both mac and pc.



I may be getting a little confused here in terms of what a NAS can do but will this allow me to transfer files from my PC to my MAC and vice versa? Or does it only allow you to view the files?

I'm assuming it shows as a separate hard drive on the computers so anything you add to that drive will be shared across all devices?

Edited by: "krazyasif786" 26th Jul 2015

So this doesn't come with any hard drives just an empty case ?

djmutters

So this doesn't come with any hard drives just an empty case ?



Empty case

krazyasif786

I may be getting a little confused here in terms of what a NAS can do but … I may be getting a little confused here in terms of what a NAS can do but will this allow me to transfer files from my PC to my MAC and vice versa? Or does it only allow you to view the files?I'm assuming it shows as a separate hard drive on the computers so anything you add to that drive will be shared across all devices?



once the drive is on your network it will be fully readable and writable in the same way a normal hard drive would be.

The USB 3.0 gives it more fire power over the 214SE also. But alas still missing Wake-on-LAN function?, shame..

HankHandsome

The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got 512mb … The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got 512mb RAM and Dual Core processors and it's also gigabit ethernet compatible as well - the difference being that it's a single bay.http://www.dabs.com/products/synology-disk-station-ds115---nas-server---0-tb-B24M.htmlThe NAS can basically operate in it's own "world", if you will. As I understand it, you need to have your PC always on and running the PLEX server for it to work around the house, but you don't need that with the NAS as it streams via DLNA. They're fairly low power as well so you can basically leave them on 24/7. I've got mine scheduled to shut down once a week on a sunday morning because I've been led to believe it's good practice to reboot it at least once a week.Most drives also have built in torrent clients as well so you can also get some kind of automatic downloading going to grab any movies or tv shows directly to the nas drive.I've got mine connected up via ethernet but i think some drives do have wifi capability. Having it wired in to your home network is the way to go though because it becomes available to every device you have.Aside from the media capabilities, you can also, for example, run your own personal cloud storage on your nas drive and give yourself enough 'free' space as your drive can cope with.Another thing you can do with it is use it as your own personal photo storage service - a bit like flickr. The Synology Photo app for the iPhone will automatically upload any and all photos you take to the storage space you allocate.There's an app called "Sonarr" that's available that will automatically search for and download any television show you can plug in to it as well. Use that in conjunction with Kodi and you've got a fully automated TV service where you'll never miss a single show - you could even feasibly give up sky television if you had it :)But that's really just scratching the surface with what you can do with a NAS drive. Personally, I don't know what i'd do without one now.

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HankHandsome

The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got 512mb … The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got 512mb RAM and Dual Core processors and it's also gigabit ethernet compatible as well - the difference being that it's a single bay.http://www.dabs.com/products/synology-disk-station-ds115---nas-server---0-tb-B24M.html


Correct but to avoid confusion, the DS115J is single core and 256mb - this is the cheap version at about £80, the higher spec 115 is £120+.
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HankHandsome

once the drive is on your network it will be fully readable and writable … once the drive is on your network it will be fully readable and writable in the same way a normal hard drive would be.



Fantastic.

Is there anything more powerful to this? a Model higher?

ATM I use external hard drives. I have 2 external ones (1TB and 1.5TB). 1 internal MAC (500GB) and then 3 inside the PC (2 are 1TB and one 250GB SSD). All in all pretty much at 70% capacity.

To get the best out of this method would you suggest transferring all the data from these drives onto a NAS and then what would I do with the remaining hard drives? Sell them or use as back ups?

I think I'd buy new WD Red HDs 6TB in total so 2 lots of 3TB when on sale so would leave me with 2 Hard drives in the PC and 2 external drives for non use?

I could use one of the external drives as a time machine backup for the iMac to back up the 500GB internal drive and another for backing up the SSD on the PC and that leaves 2 hard drives left.

Should I use them to back up the NAS? or sell them?

Hope this make sense. My question is what would you do if you had a similar set up.

afaik iTS ONLY THE SYNOLOGY units that have an x86 CPu (intel) that can run plex. the lower end ones have a cheaper arm CPU, but dlna is built into the software, so good for streaming.
Krazy, I would consolidate all your stuff onto the NAS and then sell the external drives if you need the money.
You would have to decide when you first setup the machine whether you want to mirror your two RED drives giving you 3tb total storage or jbod (2 separate drives) or go for SHR which allows for easy expansion later on.

krazyasif786

Is there anything more powerful to this? a Model higher?



at this point in time i'm not entirely sure. but what I do know is that when I had my original Zyxel NS310S Nas with a single core processor and 256mb ram, I never had any issues with performance as far as streaming and remote access went so take from that what you will.

krazyasif786

To get the best out of this method would you suggest transferring all the … To get the best out of this method would you suggest transferring all the data from these drives onto a NAS and then what would I do with the remaining hard drives? Sell them or use as back ups?



personally, I like having all my data in one place (which will illicit screams from a lot of people i'm sure :)), so as i use my nas for cloud storage and photos, as well as media streaming, i have all of that on the 2TB drive i have installed in it and I also have a seperate 2tb desktop hard drive to keep a seperate backup of the whole thing.

with a raid setup, as this is, you'll have a certain level of protection should one drive fail but i certainly do think having a seperate backup solution is highly advisable so if you could use one of your spare drives and convert it in to a desktop hard drive to contain a backup of your data then i'd certainly do that.

one handy thing about that is that the synology drives have usb 3.0 ports, so if you've got a usb 3.0 desktop hard drive, you can plug it directly in to the drive itself to do your backups and it'll take a lot less time.

whatever drives you have left, you can certainly sell them and use them to offset some of the cost of the nas drive.

Original Poster

Krazy, of you want more powerful without it costing you a fortune, then maybe you should look at building your own diy nas and installing something like freenas.

does anyone know if I can use this as a cloud server to make a "non cloud" WiFi printer avaible via the cloud to a chromebook?

For Plex server, this NAS is not powerful enough to transcode so note that the client will need to be capable of natively playing the video formats Plex is serving up.
Probably the cheapest option to avoid this issue if you want to use Plex and you have a DS215J and a client that cant play all the formats is to buy a Pi 2 and run RasPlex or Kodi with the plexbmc plugin, as the Pi 2 can play pretty much all the common formats.

Just to add I bought one of these the other month. It does some crazy amazing stuff I didn't even realise until I got my sticky mits on it. You can cast media from this little box to your Chromecast; it doesn't transcode on the fly, but if your media files are stored in a suitable format it will cast away for you. It does AirPlay and DLNA and can serve up stuff everywhere. The apps for Android (can't comment on iOS) are SUPERB. Remote access to files, again casting stuff via DSAudio or DSVideo; you can even remote-control your hifi if it's AirPlay compatible. Does surveillance cameras, you can leave it downloading things, it has a fully fledged browser-based OS ... frankly it's the best piece of kit I've ever bought. I run mine with two 3TB WD Reds and it's scheduled to come on at 7am and go off at midnight.

I'm sure it does other things too that I'll never use like personal web hosting, email server, print server, all sorts. Regular updates to the OS too (one every couple of weeks with patches or updates).

HankHandsome

The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got … The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got 512mb RAM and Dual Core processors and it's also gigabit ethernet compatible as well - the difference being that it's a single bay..



Will a Samsung M9T 2TB drive work in either the DS115 or 215J? TIA

storeyrich

Just to add I bought one of these the other month. It does some crazy … Just to add I bought one of these the other month. It does some crazy amazing stuff I didn't even realise until I got my sticky mits on it. You can cast media from this little box to your Chromecast; it doesn't transcode on the fly, but if your media files are stored in a suitable format it will cast away for you. It does AirPlay and DLNA and can serve up stuff everywhere. The apps for Android (can't comment on iOS) are SUPERB. Remote access to files, again casting stuff via DSAudio or DSVideo; you can even remote-control your hifi if it's AirPlay compatible. Does surveillance cameras, you can leave it downloading things, it has a fully fledged browser-based OS ... frankly it's the best piece of kit I've ever bought. I run mine with two 3TB WD Reds and it's scheduled to come on at 7am and go off at midnight.I'm sure it does other things too that I'll never use like personal web hosting, email server, print server, all sorts. Regular updates to the OS too (one every couple of weeks with patches or updates).



Hey,

I have the 215j as well and experience massive lags when streaming with Chromecast. It often works for a while and crashes in the middle - with the Synology video app. (e.g. 720p files) Plex says can't transcode and won't play.

Do you have some tipps to get it running properly?

Thanks


If it's transcoding and a little extra video perforance you're looking for then why not look at the 214 Play??

synology.com/en-…lay

I have the 214Play, my 3rd Synology and they just get better and better every time. Software is released when new features become available and they have a really strong eye on security with built in features to alert you if you're at risk.

The 214Play also includes 2 x Surveillance Station licences. I have my CCTV HD camera's recording and can look them up anytime on my iPhone or via web login.

For Data security I use RAID setup and on a previous machine I did have a HD failure. The Syno warned me and took me through a simple process of rebuilding the new drive when it was installed.
Edited by: "Stu" 27th Jul 2015

pclemmit

The USB 3.0 gives it more fire power over the 214SE also. But alas still … The USB 3.0 gives it more fire power over the 214SE also. But alas still missing Wake-on-LAN function?, shame..



It has WOL. See here: synology.com/en-…437

Mine arrived today, just setting it up.



I've never personally undersood the need to continue using plex when you have a nas drive. I've always personally felt that the nature of a nas drive makes plex pretty pointless.

Just how i feel myself though, i'm not moaning and if people prefer that setup then that's cool.

doobreedob

For Plex server, this NAS is not powerful enough to transcode so note … For Plex server, this NAS is not powerful enough to transcode so note that the client will need to be capable of natively playing the video formats Plex is serving up. Probably the cheapest option to avoid this issue if you want to use Plex and you have a DS215J and a client that cant play all the formats is to buy a Pi 2 and run RasPlex or Kodi with the plexbmc plugin, as the Pi 2 can play pretty much all the common formats.

HankHandsome

The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got … The DS115 is exactly the same spec as the DS215J - they've both got 512mb RAM and Dual Core processors and it's also gigabit ethernet compatible as well - the difference being that it's a single bay..



Doesn't look like it, no.

Here are a couple of lists that will detail what drives you can or can't use - the official one and a user-reported one.

synology.com/en-…p=1

forum.synology.com/wik…ves

HankHandsome

Doesn't look like it, no.



Stu

2.5 drives fit but you need an … 2.5 drives fit but you need an adapterhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Synology-NAS-System-Drive-Holder-2-5/dp/B002WRY74Y



Thanks, so any 2.5" drive will work with the adapter?

HankHandsome

Doesn't look like it, no.

Stu

2.5 drives fit but you need an … 2.5 drives fit but you need an adapterhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Synology-NAS-System-Drive-Holder-2-5/dp/B002WRY74Y



Synology tests a number of drives which are on the lists already posted but clearly they cannot test everything.

I'd be very surprised if they didn't work, I see no reason why they wouldn't. I have never had to refer to a list of drives when I buy mine I just buy what suits me at the time.

Looking at something like this to run plex off of for the kids to watch videos...how would such a setup work if it's possible???

Try Flubit as last time it was this low I got it through them fro £120! Bargain

rimz790

Looking at something like this to run plex off of for the kids to watch … Looking at something like this to run plex off of for the kids to watch videos...how would such a setup work if it's possible???




Easy. Connect it to your network. Copy the videos to the video folder. Install Plex Media Server from Package Center. on the NAS. Add the folders in the Plex.

Your Plex clients should see the files.

DJ Dunk

Easy. Connect it to your network. Copy the videos to the video folder. … Easy. Connect it to your network. Copy the videos to the video folder. Install Plex Media Server from Package Center. on the NAS. Add the folders in the Plex.Your Plex clients should see the files.



​That simple!?!?! Wow, thanks!

How does this compare to a Buffalo LinkStation Pro Quad 4TB?? Many thanks

rimz790

Looking at something like this to run plex off of for the kids to watch … Looking at something like this to run plex off of for the kids to watch videos...how would such a setup work if it's possible???



You don't need Plex.

You can learn about the OS here - synology.com/en-…res

HankHandsome

one handy thing about that is that the synology drives have usb 3.0 … one handy thing about that is that the synology drives have usb 3.0 ports, so if you've got a usb 3.0 desktop hard drive, you can plug it directly in to the drive itself to do your backups and it'll take a lot less time.



So backing up via USB 3.0 in the DS115 is a practicable alternative to mirroring? (the lack of built in redundancy is the obvious disadvantage of a single drive NAS)



Edited by: "david1274" 27th Jul 2015

hot, just for all the brilliant comments, I want one now :-)

david1274

So backing up via USB 3.0 in the DS115 is a practicable alternative to … So backing up via USB 3.0 in the DS115 is a practicable alternative to mirroring? (the lack of built in redundancy is the obvious disadvantage of a single drive NAS)



I don't think you'd usually back up the whole drive to a USB, but I guess there is nothing stopping you. I would suggest a 2 Bay a better option.

help.synology.com/dsm…tml

Stu

You don't need Plex.You can learn about the OS here - … You don't need Plex.You can learn about the OS here - https://www.synology.com/en-global/dsm/5.2/features



You don't need it, but it's pretty X)

I use both DLNA and Plex on my Samsung TV.
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