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Smart radiator valve - control your heating remotely
Temperature sensor helps keep heating at an ideal level
Adjusts temperature according to your location
Can use the weather forecast to inform its settings
Works with Apple HomeKit, Amazon Alexa & Google Home

Stay toasty on those cold, dreary nights with this tado° smart radiator thermostat starter kit. You won’t have to leave your comfy couch to adjust the heating, since you can use the handy smartphone app to do it remotely. You can sync it up with smart assistants like Amazon Alexa, Google Home or Apple HomeKit and control everything using voice commands. Not that you’ll need to change the temperature yourself very
often, as the built-in sensors keep tabs on how warm your home is, so it’ll never get too hot or too cold – it’ll even connect to the internet and regulate itself according to both the weather forecast and your location.

This kit includes everything you need to get started, including a smart radiator thermostat, internet bridge, USB cable, Ethernet cable, all the necessary connectors, 2 AA batteries and 6 adapters.
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I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, Nest seems best. That said, it is more expensive and so haven't been able to quantify if it's worth the extra costs.

Any opinions or links on the subject would be gratefully recieved
Edited by: "troubleshooter" 19th Jan
troubleshooter19/01/2020 20:57

I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, …I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, Nest seems best. That said, it is more expensive and so haven't been able to quantify if it's worth the extra costs.Any opinions or links on the subject would be gratefully recieved


Can't control individual radiators with Nest like you can with these
troubleshooter19/01/2020 20:57

I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, …I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, Nest seems best. That said, it is more expensive and so haven't been able to quantify if it's worth the extra costs.Any opinions or links on the subject would be gratefully recieved


Read about opentherm
troubleshooter19/01/2020 20:57

I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, …I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, Nest seems best. That said, it is more expensive and so haven't been able to quantify if it's worth the extra costs.Any opinions or links on the subject would be gratefully recieved


Is is meant to be one of the better Thermostates but currently they don’t offer TRV’s to control radiators and set up zones. As you already said they are also expensive. I also want the thermostat fixed to a wall with having little ones around, nest again more often than not makes it more difficult to fit, usually you need extra wires fitting.

For me, I think I have pretty much made my mind up with the tado system. It seems versatile, one of the easiest to set up/fit and options to control radiators.

I also looked at Hive but in all honesty, it doesn’t seem that smart. And your tied to the hive lighting and TVR’s if you don’t want multiple hubs.

I know a couple of people with Netatmo, though you can’t control hot water tanks with it and also lacks Geofencing. If you don’t required those features then it’s a good system and would probably be my second choice.

Honeywell Evohome is very good but again very expensive and too bigger outlay for me.

Opentherm function is also a consideration depending on your boiler. If you boiler supports it or if you are considering a new boiler in the near future, I would definitely purchase a thermostat which offers this function.
Edited by: "BigD83" 19th Jan
troubleshooter19/01/2020 20:57

I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, …I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, Nest seems best. That said, it is more expensive and so haven't been able to quantify if it's worth the extra costs.Any opinions or links on the subject would be gratefully recieved



If you want to control individual radiators the Tado system works well. Nest don't make smart TRVs. It's not perfect though as the temp sensors in the TRV are poor and can't accurately sense the actual room temp. No idea why they attempted to solve the problem this way as it's impossible to determine the actual room temp so close to the radiator, not to mention Tado has no idea how large the room is to even guestimate it correctly.

You really need a room thermostat in addition to the TRVs to make it accurate. They're £75 on amazon at the moment but Tado really should have released an external temp sensor that was around the £20-25 mark. That's my biggest gripe about the system as it's at least £107 per room to make it accurate. (When TRVs / Thermostats are on offer) normally it would be closer to £150 per room.

But apart from that it works well imo.
Edited by: "codebee" 19th Jan
troubleshooter19/01/2020 20:57

I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, …I'm trying to research these smart heating systems. From what I'm reading, Nest seems best. That said, it is more expensive and so haven't been able to quantify if it's worth the extra costs.Any opinions or links on the subject would be gratefully recieved


Nest did nothing for me, mine will be on eBay soon!
bagga21219/01/2020 21:09

Read about opentherm


BTW Nest supports open therm if your boiler does. It's the way forward
bagga21219/01/2020 21:39

BTW Nest supports open therm if your boiler does. It's the way forward


Tado also supports Open Therm
These hard to fit? I could use something like this in our nursery etc
Tam3rlane19/01/2020 22:13

These hard to fit? I could use something like this in our nursery etc


Unscrew then current one, screw the bottom half of this one on, twist the top on and let it calibrate and connect to the bridge.

Edit: if your current ones are put on tightly, you could use slip joint pliers / water pump pliers to unscrew.
Edited by: "SomebodE" 19th Jan
codebee19/01/2020 21:28

If you want to control individual radiators the Tado system works well. …If you want to control individual radiators the Tado system works well. Nest don't make smart TRVs. It's not perfect though as the temp sensors in the TRV are poor and can't accurately sense the actual room temp. No idea why they attempted to solve the problem this way as it's impossible to determine the actual room temp so close to the radiator, not to mention Tado has no idea how large the room is to even guestimate it correctly.You really need a room thermostat in addition to the TRVs to make it accurate. They're £75 on amazon at the moment but Tado really should have released an external temp sensor that was around the £20-25 mark. That's my biggest gripe about the system as it's at least £107 per room to make it accurate. (When TRVs / Thermostats are on offer) normally it would be closer to £150 per room.But apart from that it works well imo.


I think the concept to control individual radiators is great, there are very few others in the market that actually provide any solution close to these. I agree that the control is not accurate but over a period of time you get used to it. for larger rooms you may set the temperature a degree or two higher and it works great. Another tip is to have a thermocol padding between radiator and valve(Vertical) which prevents frequent trigger. You may see the trend to fine tune that. I have extended the TRV control to all my rooms and actually disabled trigger from main thermostat, it has already saved my about 18% on gas bills

I am still with the original version, not v3/v3+ yet not even the app. Do not see a point.
Edited by: "shirish_payasi" 19th Jan
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This is what it looks like in the V3 app - the darker the bar, the more it allows the radiator to heat.

The temp from the valve is 1-2 degrees higher than the actual room temperature.

The kids room has an oversized radiator so the valve turns it down frequently but turns it up in the morning when it’s coldest.
This or Honeywell evohome?
codebee19/01/2020 21:28

If you want to control individual radiators the Tado system works well. …If you want to control individual radiators the Tado system works well. Nest don't make smart TRVs. It's not perfect though as the temp sensors in the TRV are poor and can't accurately sense the actual room temp. No idea why they attempted to solve the problem this way as it's impossible to determine the actual room temp so close to the radiator, not to mention Tado has no idea how large the room is to even guestimate it correctly.You really need a room thermostat in addition to the TRVs to make it accurate. They're £75 on amazon at the moment but Tado really should have released an external temp sensor that was around the £20-25 mark. That's my biggest gripe about the system as it's at least £107 per room to make it accurate. (When TRVs / Thermostats are on offer) normally it would be closer to £150 per room.But apart from that it works well imo.


TRVs have been accurate for me. Within 0.5 degree average as expected.

But it depends on your setup. They will be most accurate with radiators which are white and the modern type which directs all heat out of the top (not the designer types which are essentially multiple vertical slats). They should also be in an open area (not crammed into a corner), and it helps if your house is fairly new and/or well insulated so that you have less cold/hot spots.
Edited by: "edanfalls" 20th Jan
edanfalls20/01/2020 10:05

TRVs have been accurate for me. Within 0.5 degree average as expected.But …TRVs have been accurate for me. Within 0.5 degree average as expected.But it depends on your setup. They will be most accurate with radiators which are white and the modern type which directs all heat out of the top (not the designer types which are essentially multiple vertical slats). They should also be in an open area (not crammed into a corner), and it helps if you're house is fairly new and/or well insulated so that you have less cold/hot spots.


Once the TRVs have calibrated, I find them to be consistently reading 1-2 degrees above the actual room temperature, depending on the room.

The app allows you to adjust the temperature offset on a per room basis and once you have done this, it's accurate.

You will always have a temperature difference between the side of the room that has the radiator and the side that does not. As @edanfalls stated, 0.5 is consistent with this with modern convector radiators and can be as much as 1 degree with non-convector panel radiators.

I have both types in my home only because two of the older radiators are curved in bay windows so I've opted to leave those where as all the others have been replaced with convector radiators that work well with a 50 degree flow temperature. A higher flow temperature will likely result in lower accuracy.
SomebodE20/01/2020 10:25

Once the TRVs have calibrated, I find them to be consistently reading 1-2 …Once the TRVs have calibrated, I find them to be consistently reading 1-2 degrees above the actual room temperature, depending on the room.The app allows you to adjust the temperature offset on a per room basis and once you have done this, it's accurate.You will always have a temperature difference between the side of the room that has the radiator and the side that does not. As @edanfalls stated, 0.5 is consistent with this with modern convector radiators and can be as much as 1 degree with non-convector panel radiators.I have both types in my home only because two of the older radiators are curved in bay windows so I've opted to leave those where as all the others have been replaced with convector radiators that work well with a 50 degree flow temperature. A higher flow temperature will likely result in lower accuracy.


The offset sounds good on paper but it's only accurate when the rad is fully heating the room. Lets say it's reporting 2C more than the room and you set an offset of -2, that should solve the problem right? Not quite.

Once the rad is off / cold you're now -2C off the actual temp which causes the heating to come on early and unnessessarily. The only solution for this is to have the external temp sensor that's not the TRV. A hacky fix for this would be to apply the offset only when actively heating the room but Tado only lets you set it regardless if heating is on or not.

edanfalls20/01/2020 10:05

TRVs have been accurate for me. Within 0.5 degree average as expected.But …TRVs have been accurate for me. Within 0.5 degree average as expected.But it depends on your setup. They will be most accurate with radiators which are white and the modern type which directs all heat out of the top (not the designer types which are essentially multiple vertical slats). They should also be in an open area (not crammed into a corner), and it helps if your house is fairly new and/or well insulated so that you have less cold/hot spots.


They definitely aren't accurate to 0.5C (In representing the room temp) - If you measure the temp in the middle of the room they're consistently between 1-3C off, more if the room large)

I've measured the temp with various sensors and the wall thermostat and this is consistent. (I have modern Rads, not designer or any wacky shapes)

Other's have reported this here too in alot more detail:

community.tado.com/en-…ats


The annoying thing is that Tado had a small external temp sensor with the V1 Kit but doesn't work with the TRVs.


The system would be perfect with an external sensor that's not a £75+ thermostat. £20-25 would be a decent price range to pay for it.
Edited by: "codebee" 20th Jan
codebee20/01/2020 15:01

The offset sounds good on paper but it's only accurate when the rad is …The offset sounds good on paper but it's only accurate when the rad is fully heating the room. Lets say it's reporting 2C more than the room and you set an offset of -2, that should solve the problem right? Not quite.Once the rad is off / cold you're now -2C off the actual temp which causes the heating to come on early and unnessessarily. The only solution for this is to have the external temp sensor that's not the TRV. A hacky fix for this would be to apply the offset only when actively heating the room but Tado only lets you set it regardless if heating is on or not.They definitely aren't accurate to 0.5C (In representing the room temp) - If you measure the temp in the middle of the room they're consistently between 1-3C off, more if the room large) I've measured the temp with various sensors and the wall thermostat and this is consistent. (I have modern Rads, not designer or any wacky shapes)Other's have reported this here too in alot more detail:https://community.tado.com/en-gb/discussion/459/launch-an-external-temperature-sensor-for-the-smart-radiator-thermostatsThe annoying thing is that Tado had a small external temp sensor with the V1 Kit but doesn't work with the TRVs.The system would be perfect with an external sensor that's not a £75+ thermostat. £20-25 would be a decent price range to pay for it.


Whilst my testing is not extensive, I’ve compared the on off temps from the TRV to what my table top thermometer (hydrometer?) says.

I’ve it it on two sides of the room with the offset working - perhaps I’ve been lucky with my batch of TRVs?

They’ve all been bought recently if that’s of any help to anyone.
codebee20/01/2020 15:01

The offset sounds good on paper but it's only accurate when the rad is …The offset sounds good on paper but it's only accurate when the rad is fully heating the room. Lets say it's reporting 2C more than the room and you set an offset of -2, that should solve the problem right? Not quite.Once the rad is off / cold you're now -2C off the actual temp which causes the heating to come on early and unnessessarily. The only solution for this is to have the external temp sensor that's not the TRV. A hacky fix for this would be to apply the offset only when actively heating the room but Tado only lets you set it regardless if heating is on or not.They definitely aren't accurate to 0.5C (In representing the room temp) - If you measure the temp in the middle of the room they're consistently between 1-3C off, more if the room large) I've measured the temp with various sensors and the wall thermostat and this is consistent. (I have modern Rads, not designer or any wacky shapes)Other's have reported this here too in alot more detail:https://community.tado.com/en-gb/discussion/459/launch-an-external-temperature-sensor-for-the-smart-radiator-thermostatsThe annoying thing is that Tado had a small external temp sensor with the V1 Kit but doesn't work with the TRVs.The system would be perfect with an external sensor that's not a £75+ thermostat. £20-25 would be a decent price range to pay for it.


I've measure mine as within 0.5 degrees on average. I didn't say they are always accurate though, they rarely are as it depends on your setup. You said your radiators are modern - are they also white, not in cramped areas and in a new well-insulated house?

I completely agree that an external temp sensor is the best solution though to make it more accurate for more people, and I've read all the posts on the Tado forum (unlike Tado themselves, who don't seem to even read them let alone respond).

I didn't know that V1 came with one though! Which is worrying as it must have been a deliberate decision to move away from that
My kitchen is always colder than all other rooms because it's an old 1930s house and only 1 brick thick. If I brought this, could I fit to the radiator in the kitchen and set the temperature higher than everywhere else to make the radiator work harder in just that room?
For someone with a Hive thermostat already, would anyone know if it's worth investing in this or just purchase the Hive trv's?
GaryOConnor20/01/2020 18:28

My kitchen is always colder than all other rooms because it's an old 1930s …My kitchen is always colder than all other rooms because it's an old 1930s house and only 1 brick thick. If I brought this, could I fit to the radiator in the kitchen and set the temperature higher than everywhere else to make the radiator work harder in just that room?


This device alone will only let you automate turning on and off of one radiator. You would be able to set a temp and then the smart TRV (Thermostatic Radiator Valve) maintains that temp in the room.

Most use cases for these are to replace all radiator TRVs so you can control rooms individually. Otherwise you're heating rooms that may not need heated.

To do that properly you should have the Smart Thermostat also so it can control your boiler.

The TRVs by themselves cannot call for heat from your boiler, only control the valve on the radiator.
GaryOConnor20/01/2020 18:28

My kitchen is always colder than all other rooms because it's an old 1930s …My kitchen is always colder than all other rooms because it's an old 1930s house and only 1 brick thick. If I brought this, could I fit to the radiator in the kitchen and set the temperature higher than everywhere else to make the radiator work harder in just that room?


#garyoconnor You can do that with bog standard TRV's that you probably already have anyway, unless your rads are really old. Something like these with 1-5 markings on are typical:-
screwfix.com/c/h…012

The Tado ones in this deal are "Smart" and can also be controlled by the app, or put set on a schedule so you can have the bedrooms cold during the day, warm during the evening and cool during the night etc.

Although if you're planning on staying where you are for a while, it may be worth considering insulating your kitchen wall instead/too.
devious1120/01/2020 20:32

To do that properly you should have the Smart Thermostat also so it can …To do that properly you should have the Smart Thermostat also so it can control your boiler.The TRVs by themselves cannot call for heat from your boiler, only control the valve on the radiator.


Just to clarify, the Tado TRVs can call for heat, but they do it via the Smart Thermostat. So if only one room in the house needs heating, the Tado TRV in that room can tell the Smart Thermostat to open the zone valve, as well as opening the radiator valve.

@devious11 I'm sure you know that, but it wasn't clear from the way it was written
UKBFG20/01/2020 21:05

#garyoconnor You can do that with bog standard TRV's that you probably …#garyoconnor You can do that with bog standard TRV's that you probably already have anyway, unless your rads are really old. Something like these with 1-5 markings on are typical:-https://www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plumbing/thermostatic-radiator-valves/cat831012The Tado ones in this deal are "Smart" and can also be controlled by the app, or put set on a schedule so you can have the bedrooms cold during the day, warm during the evening and cool during the night etc. Although if you're planning on staying where you are for a while, it may be worth considering insulating your kitchen wall instead/too.


It depends where @GaryOConnor has his room thermostats. If the room thermostat for the same zone as the kitchen is in one of the warmest rooms, then putting a standard TRV in the kitchen might not work as the zone won't be calling for heat often enough.

I had the same problem - I adjusted the lockshield valves so that the warm room was getting less water flowing through than the cold room, but it was still too disjointed and the warm room was never calling for heat.
edanfalls21/01/2020 11:34

Just to clarify, the Tado TRVs can call for heat, but they do it via the …Just to clarify, the Tado TRVs can call for heat, but they do it via the Smart Thermostat. So if only one room in the house needs heating, the Tado TRV in that room can tell the Smart Thermostat to open the zone valve, as well as opening the radiator valve.@codebee I'm sure you know that, but it wasn't clear from the way it was written


You quoted me out of context though... I clearly said they require the Thermostat as the TRV cannot call for heat by themselves.

The whole message was:

codebee20/01/2020 20:32

To do that properly you should have the Smart Thermostat also so it can …To do that properly you should have the Smart Thermostat also so it can control your boiler.The TRVs by themselves cannot call for heat from your boiler, only control the valve on the radiator.


You mention they do call for heat via the Thermostat, but if we're being pedantic about it the TRV's still don't call for heat, the thermostat does. The TRV doesn't communicate directly with the Thermostat at all. The TRV is essentially a semi-dumb switch responding to commands from the Bridge to open or close, report if it's open or closed and the temp it's detecting.

The Thermostat doesn't even open the valves as you mention, the bridge controls this and instructs the TRV to open/close (Which is why you can use the TRVs without a thermostat)
codebee21/01/2020 12:04

You quoted me out of context though... I clearly said they require the …You quoted me out of context though... I clearly said they require the Thermostat as the TRV cannot call for heat by themselves. The whole message was:You mention they do call for heat via the Thermostat, but if we're being pedantic about it the TRV's still don't call for heat, the thermostat does. The TRV doesn't communicate directly with the Thermostat at all. The TRV is essentially a semi-dumb switch responding to commands from the Bridge to open or close, report if it's open or closed and the temp it's detecting.The Thermostat doesn't even open the valves as you mention, the bridge controls this and instructs the TRV to open/close (Which is why you can use the TRVs without a thermostat)


I wasn't being pedantic, I was just clarifying for others reading the thread. I even specifically stated that I'm sure you're aware of it. Nevermind.
Edited by: "edanfalls" 21st Jan
codebee21/01/2020 12:04

The TRV doesn't communicate directly with the Thermostat at all.


I know it doesn't communicate directly with the Smart Thermostat, but it does so via the internet bridge. That is neither here nor there. Clearly information from the TRV makes its way to the Smart Thermostat, otherwise when you choose which device reports the temperature, the Smart Thermostat wouldn't be aware of it.

codebee21/01/2020 12:04

The Thermostat doesn't even open the valves as you mention, the bridge …The Thermostat doesn't even open the valves as you mention, the bridge controls this and instructs the TRV to open/close (Which is why you can use the TRVs without a thermostat)


I didn't say that the Smart Thermostat opens the radiator valves, I said that it opens the zone valves. Clearly the bridge does not open the zone valves, that would be impossible in my case as my zone valves are wired and not wireless, and the Smart Thermostat is the only thing that is physically wired up to them.
Thanks for your previous help on another thread
@devious11 . Can I just double check that if I have no zone valves installed, but have the smart thermostat in say the lounge, and internet bridge and smart TRV's on all rads

5 zones set up on the app with some zones having 2/3 rads grouped.

Smart Thermostat installed in the lounge

Zone 1: Lounge + Dining room + Hallway
Zone 2: Utility room
Zone 3: Master bedroom
Zone 4: Baby room
Zone 5: Spare room

If the temp is currently say 22 in the lounge, and the lounge Zone is set to 21 in the app, but I want 25°C in the utility, the system will essentially close all valves below 25°C in all other groups, unless below their set temps, and open the one in zone 2, setting the thermostat in the lounge to 25 and calling for heat from the boiler?

Or should I install the thermostat in an area with no radiator?

Thanks
Edited by: "ClubLife" 21st Jan
ClubLife21/01/2020 13:45

Thanks for your previous help on another thread@devious11 . Can I just …Thanks for your previous help on another thread@devious11 . Can I just double check that if I have no zone valves installed, but have the smart thermostat in say the lounge, and internet bridge and smart TRV's on all rads5 zones set up on the app with some zones having 2/3 rads grouped.Smart Thermostat installed in the loungeZone 1: Lounge + Dining room + HallwayZone 2: Utility roomZone 3: Master bedroomZone 4: Baby roomZone 5: Spare roomIf the temp is currently say 22 in the lounge, and the lounge Zone is set to 21 in the app, but I want 25°C in the utility, the system will essentially close all valves below 25°C in all other groups, unless below their set temps, and open the one in zone 2, setting the thermostat in the lounge to 25 and calling for heat from the boiler?Or should I install the thermostat in an area with no radiator? Thanks


When you say you have no zone valves installed, do you mean that you have just one zone valve? Even if you don't have multiple zones, I think you still will have a zone valve, either in an S-plan or a Y-plan setup.

But to answer your question: yes that will work. All radiator valves except the radiator(s) in the utility room will close off, meaning only the utility room will be heating.

In terms of thermostat placement, it's best to place it into a room that you will use a lot and maybe a large room which will struggle to accurately read the temperature of the room from the thermostats built into the TRVs. That's the main weakness of Tado - the only way to add a more accurate room temperature reading is with the Smart Thermostat which costs £75+, so try to place it wisely.

Another thing to note is that you should check your boiler has a bypass valve. If it doesn't, then you should not fit Tado TRVs to all radiators - you would need to leave one with a manual valve. I've left my towel radiators with manual valves since my boiler doesn't have a bypass valve.
UKBFG20/01/2020 21:05

#garyoconnor You can do that with bog standard TRV's that you probably …#garyoconnor You can do that with bog standard TRV's that you probably already have anyway, unless your rads are really old. Something like these with 1-5 markings on are typical:-https://www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plumbing/thermostatic-radiator-valves/cat831012The Tado ones in this deal are "Smart" and can also be controlled by the app, or put set on a schedule so you can have the bedrooms cold during the day, warm during the evening and cool during the night etc. Although if you're planning on staying where you are for a while, it may be worth considering insulating your kitchen wall instead/too.


Cheers, much appreciated The rad is on number 5 and a good quality, big double. The trouble is, when the rest of the house reaches the target temp, this room is 2.5 degrees lower. I did try putting the central thermostat in the kitchen, putting the temperature up 2.5 degrees and adjusting the other rads around the house to compensate but it didn't really work!
GaryOConnor21/01/2020 18:21

Cheers, much appreciated The rad is on number 5 and a good quality, …Cheers, much appreciated The rad is on number 5 and a good quality, big double. The trouble is, when the rest of the house reaches the target temp, this room is 2.5 degrees lower. I did try putting the central thermostat in the kitchen, putting the temperature up 2.5 degrees and adjusting the other rads around the house to compensate but it didn't really work!


Well I don't think smart TRV's will help either then.

Really the proper solution is to try and reduce the heat lose in that room by insulating and draught-proofing, as really you're chucking heat/money away.

IIt sounds like you've already tried but if that isn't an option, then I'd try experimenting with the thermostat and radiators valves and water flows to try and balance things out.

Why did your attempt not work? WHy did you put the target temnperature up? Surely you just want to move the thermostat into the kitchen, leave it as the target temperature so it doesn't turn off the boiler until the kitchen is at the correct temperatire and then use the TRV's in the other rooms to turn those radiators down, so they switch off when those rooms get up to temperature, leaving the kitchen one on until that is also up to temperature, at which point the boiler is switched off by the thermostat.
Edited by: "UKBFG" 21st Jan
@GaryOConnor Or just admit defeat and run a little fan heater, or halogen heater in the kitchen when you're actually in there and then shut the door when you're not and keep the heat in the rest of the house as much as possible. I guess you could even hook a smart plug and heater up to a motion sensor (Hue one do temp too I believe, so potentially allowing if it's cold & movemnet is detected) to switch the heater on for 5 minutes.
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