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RRP of around £119, makes this tremendous value
3371438-Nv75n.jpg- Geofencing
- Open Window Detection
- Weather Adaptation
- New V3+: Air Comfort
- Smart Schedule
- New V3+: Auto-Assist: For even more comfort you can automate Geofencing and Open Window Detection (monthly subscription bookable in app, only £2.99/month, cancel anytime)

Additional features:
- Multi-room Control
- Hot water control
- Insightful reports

Seamless Smart Home integration & voice control with Amazon Alexa, Apple HomeKit, Google Assistant, & IFTTT.

What´s in the box?
  • tado° Smart Radiator Thermostat
  • 2 AA batteries
  • Set of adapters
  • tado° Internet Bridge
  • UK power adapter
  • EU power adapter
  • USB cable
  • Ethernet cable
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Just seems very excessive. I think that companies just seem to be making anything and everything “smart” nowadays when it’s not really needed?!?! £59 for ONE valve! Would take years to recoup the savings at which point either something else would be on the market which is “better” or it would break!
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Just seems very excessive. I think that companies just seem to be making anything and everything “smart” nowadays when it’s not really needed?!?! £59 for ONE valve! Would take years to recoup the savings at which point either something else would be on the market which is “better” or it would break!
huddsguy22/12/2019 07:19

Just seems very excessive. I think that companies just seem to be making …Just seems very excessive. I think that companies just seem to be making anything and everything “smart” nowadays when it’s not really needed?!?! £59 for ONE valve! Would take years to recoup the savings at which point either something else would be on the market which is “better” or it would break!


Morning!
MrSwitch22/12/2019 07:22

Morning!


He is right.
MrSwitch22/12/2019 07:22

Morning!


He is right about 60 quid for one valve. I suppose the bridge makes it usable over internet but there is no boiler control so this is just an expensive room control facility as is. No?
FunkiestMonkey22/12/2019 08:19

He is right. He is right about 60 quid for one valve. I suppose the …He is right. He is right about 60 quid for one valve. I suppose the bridge makes it usable over internet but there is no boiler control so this is just an expensive room control facility as is. No?


Expensive at £119.99 which is what it's selling for in most other places, at £59.98 it's better, whether that doesn't look good value to you, may make it good value to someone else.
AO selling these for £59 also.
huddsguy22/12/2019 07:19

Just seems very excessive. I think that companies just seem to be making …Just seems very excessive. I think that companies just seem to be making anything and everything “smart” nowadays when it’s not really needed?!?! £59 for ONE valve! Would take years to recoup the savings at which point either something else would be on the market which is “better” or it would break!


What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder than others?
edanfalls22/12/2019 09:11

What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder …What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder than others?


Buy bigger radiator for the colder room, likely less than £60!
Edited by: "thewolf8u" 22nd Dec 2019
edanfalls22/12/2019 09:11

What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder …What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder than others?


I don't think this will solve one room being colder, this would be used in a room that isn't used frequently so you turn it off when not needed.
What does it do, turn itself up if the window is open or down? [wasting more heat if it turns itself up].
hotbydegrees22/12/2019 09:55

What does it do, turn itself up if the window is open or down? [wasting …What does it do, turn itself up if the window is open or down? [wasting more heat if it turns itself up].


Down
thewolf8u22/12/2019 09:43

Buy bigger radiator for the colder room, likely less than £60!


🤛🏼
backyard22/12/2019 09:44

I don't think this will solve one room being colder, this would be used in …I don't think this will solve one room being colder, this would be used in a room that isn't used frequently so you turn it off when not needed.


Or just turn off and free issue valve then 30 mins b4 you go into said room, turn free issue valve on!!
huddsguy22/12/2019 07:19

Just seems very excessive. I think that companies just seem to be making …Just seems very excessive. I think that companies just seem to be making anything and everything “smart” nowadays when it’s not really needed?!?! £59 for ONE valve! Would take years to recoup the savings at which point either something else would be on the market which is “better” or it would break!


Depends on the size of house. 20+ rads three floors 12+ rooms over three floors for example and you would be wasting money maintaing a constant temperature across all area in the home through a programmer and standard TRV heads as when the heating comes on all rooms would go to their temp set on the TRVs at the same time as set by the programmer for the boiler.

That means it could be hearing the home when your not in as a standard programmer is just a timer it has no idea if your in or not.

Sometimes a families schedule is different day to day as they work shifts so they don't need the heating on during the day one week and the next their Nightshift so don't need it at night.

Having this where it knows when your in, you won't waste money heating a home when your not there. It means you can set a more intelligent schedule to only heat the rooms you need when your home rather than heating the whole house. Some rooms might be used one day and not others so that can be done all automatically for you through the scheduling.

Essentially you can zone the whole house rather than just each floor and without having to install any more zone valves or stats. Gives a much more granular control over your heating so one person in one room can have the temp they want, another in a different room can have it set to what they want and other rooms not in use can be off so the hot water isn't being wasted heating a room not in use hence the return temp to the boiler hasn't dropped too much, only passing 2 rads in this simple example and thus less gas is used to reheat the water as it's pumped back round the two open rads in the home.

So many uses for this and definitely money to be saved by using smart central heating equipment

If you need more TRVs Tado quad pack TRVs £139 and you would have better control over the system than any system that only uses a smart thermostat
Edited by: "Kenneth131" 22nd Dec 2019
hotbydegrees22/12/2019 09:55

What does it do, turn itself up if the window is open or down? [wasting …What does it do, turn itself up if the window is open or down? [wasting more heat if it turns itself up].


Turns off when it detects an open window or door, it senses a sudden drop in temp so shuts off for 15 mins to see if the temp increases if not it stays off again untill the temp balances again
edanfalls22/12/2019 09:11

What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder …What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder than others?



buy these in sale.
amazon.co.uk/Eqi…W5T
Kenneth13122/12/2019 10:45

Turns off when it detects an open window or door, it senses a sudden drop …Turns off when it detects an open window or door, it senses a sudden drop in temp so shuts off for 15 mins to see if the temp increases if not it stays off again untill the temp balances again


Quite impressed; It actually is quite smart then!
Kenneth13122/12/2019 10:43

If you need more TRVs Tado quad pack TRVs £139 and you would have better …If you need more TRVs Tado quad pack TRVs £139 and you would have better control over the system than any system that only uses a smart thermostat


Yep, I got the quad pack of TRVs and the Smart Thermostat starter kit including 2 x TRV (was less than £120 from Amazon but not anymore sadly).

Starter kit including 2 x TRV

Total price of around £260 for a Smart Thermostat kit and 6 x TRVs. Pretty happy with that.
So does this do timed settings ie bedroom 1 turns off at 9am and back on again at 9PM , off at 10pm and back on at 7am but the main living areas on all day from say 7am till 9pm? Can it have daily routines? How long does the battery last?
Couldnt see this feature in any videos I watched.
simonbrowne22/12/2019 12:36

So does this do timed settings ie bedroom 1 turns off at 9am and back on …So does this do timed settings ie bedroom 1 turns off at 9am and back on again at 9PM , off at 10pm and back on at 7am but the main living areas on all day from say 7am till 9pm? Can it have daily routines? How long does the battery last?Couldnt see this feature in any videos I watched.


Yes you can set a schedule per room and all have geolocation so they turn off when noone is home, you can set the min temp when everyone is out.

Batteries last about a year to a year and half depends on how often they are in use though some rooms might not be used as much obviously
I splurged out on the Honeywell Evohome setup a few years ago, probably spent £300 on the setup and enough trvs for 5 radiators. It was a massive house so used them for the rooms which were rarely used meaning I could set these to only be on for an hour max per day, obvs I have no idea if it saved money but it did work seamlessly. Not having to heat up the radiators in rooms not being used saves money.

No doubt a luxury but so too is a 50inch telly, a pretty looking microwave or clean underwear every day.
thewolf8u22/12/2019 09:43

Buy bigger radiator for the colder room, likely less than £60!


FunkiestMonkey22/12/2019 11:27

buy these in sale. …buy these in sale. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eqiva-141227D0-Radiator-Thermostat-Model/dp/B07N3DWW5T


Not suitable in my case. The colder rooms already have large radiators but the problem is that the heating zone they are on does not come on regularly enough because the room thermostat for that zone is in a more naturally warm room. So it doesn't matter if the TRV is turned to max, if there's no water flowing in the zone they don't heat the room.

So instead a few weeks ago I installed Tado TRVs on all radiators, which allows individual radiators to call for heat, regardless of what the room thermostats want.

It cost me £700 but if there's a better/cheaper way to do it I would be happy to know, as Tado let you return at no cost. Because the only ways I can think of are very expensive and require a lot of re-plumbing and repair work.
edanfalls22/12/2019 14:16

Not suitable in my case. The colder rooms already have large radiators but …Not suitable in my case. The colder rooms already have large radiators but the problem is that the heating zone they are on does not come on regularly enough because the room thermostat for that zone is in a more naturally warm room. So it doesn't matter if the TRV is turned to max, if there's no water flowing in the zone they don't heat the room.So instead a few weeks ago I installed Tado TRVs on all radiators, which allows individual radiators to call for heat, regardless of what the room thermostats want.It cost me £700 but if there's a better/cheaper way to do it I would be happy to know, as Tado let you return at no cost. Because the only ways I can think of are very expensive and require a lot of re-plumbing and repair work.


Simple. Turn rad down in thermostat room to "balance" out the rads or move thermostat to a colder room.
FunkiestMonkey22/12/2019 14:22

Simple. Turn rad down in thermostat room to "balance" out the rads or move …Simple. Turn rad down in thermostat room to "balance" out the rads or move thermostat to a colder room.


Already tried the first suggestion. Didn't work - even with NO heating on in that room, it naturally heats up so much by itself that even in winter it wouldn't come on. The living room is below it (which is a warm room so heat comes up), and it has large south-facing windows. So it heats up all by itself.

The second suggestion also is not suitable because the cold rooms are often not occupied, so they are not suitable for having the room thermostat in, as sometimes the heating should be off in those rooms entirely, at other times it needs to be a liveable temperature. And you can't have the room thermostat in a room with the heating off for obvious reasons.

It's really not so simple - had a heating engineer round and they didn't know what to do. For 4 years we've been leaving the window open in the warm room to force the heating on, even in the middle of winter. Definitely a waste of heat.
Edited by: "edanfalls" 22nd Dec 2019
edanfalls22/12/2019 14:24

Already tried the first suggestion. Didn't work - even with NO heating on …Already tried the first suggestion. Didn't work - even with NO heating on in that room, it naturally heats up so much by itself that even in winter it wouldn't come on. The living room is below it (which is a warm room so heat comes up), and it has large south-facing windows. So it heats up all by itself.The second suggestion also is not suitable because the cold rooms are often not occupied, so they are not suitable for having the room thermostat in, as sometimes the heating should be off in those rooms entirely, at other times it needs to be a liveable temperature. And you can't have the room thermostat in a room with the heating off for obvious reasons.It's really not so simple - had a heating engineer round and they didn't know what to do. For 4 years we've been leaving the window open in the warm room to force the heating on, even in the middle of winter. Definitely a waste of heat.


Sounds like imbalanced system but given what you say if the tado system works all good. Not always about recovering your money in lower bills its about paying for increased comfort.
FunkiestMonkey22/12/2019 14:43

Sounds like imbalanced system but given what you say if the tado system …Sounds like imbalanced system but given what you say if the tado system works all good. Not always about recovering your money in lower bills its about paying for increased comfort.


It's a new build so the warmer south-facing rooms just don't lose their heat. Plus it's split level, so yeah it's not very well designed for heating.

I was happy to put up with the discomfort for a while but one of the colder rooms is about to become a nursery, and I don't want the baby to freeze

Tado has solved that particular problem to be fair, but I'm not that happy with it overall as it's missing some basic features. So if there's something better out there I may return it.
edanfalls22/12/2019 14:58

I'm not that happy with it overall as it's missing some basic features. So …I'm not that happy with it overall as it's missing some basic features. So if there's something better out there I may return it.


What features that are missing are you looking for
edanfalls22/12/2019 14:58

It's a new build so the warmer south-facing rooms just don't lose their …It's a new build so the warmer south-facing rooms just don't lose their heat. Plus it's split level, so yeah it's not very well designed for heating.I was happy to put up with the discomfort for a while but one of the colder rooms is about to become a nursery, and I don't want the baby to freeze Tado has solved that particular problem to be fair, but I'm not that happy with it overall as it's missing some basic features. So if there's something better out there I may return it.


For that kind of money you should have gone for Evohome by Honeywell
DubDriver22/12/2019 15:23

What features that are missing are you looking for


The biggest one is manual control of Home/Away modes. I'm not sure if you're familiar with Tado but it has Home and Away modes, and both can have their own temperatures set for each room. With geofencing enabled, it automatically switches to Away mode when everyone with the Tado app leaves the area.

But there is no manual override - so if you're all out but you have guests at home, if you want the heating to stay on you cannot simply switch to Home mode. So you have to then edit your schedules in every room each time you go out!

Or another example is if you're away from home for a week but staying close to home, it will still keep the temperature high as it assumes you're on the way home - you can't override it and force it onto Away mode.
What is the point of this if it doesn't turn on the heating at the boiler?
ifeeltheheat22/12/2019 17:49

What is the point of this if it doesn't turn on the heating at the boiler?


I guess your smart main themostat will do that ie turn on and off at certain times. There is IFTT for it here so guess you could say if radiator is low turn on boiler. Never used IFTT so could be wrong.
backyard22/12/2019 09:44

I don't think this will solve one room being colder, this would be used in …I don't think this will solve one room being colder, this would be used in a room that isn't used frequently so you turn it off when not needed.


Actually they calibrate to hot water flow ... How accurate they actually are is another thing
...
edanfalls22/12/2019 16:28

The biggest one is manual control of Home/Away modes. I'm not sure if …The biggest one is manual control of Home/Away modes. I'm not sure if you're familiar with Tado but it has Home and Away modes, and both can have their own temperatures set for each room. With geofencing enabled, it automatically switches to Away mode when everyone with the Tado app leaves the area.But there is no manual override - so if you're all out but you have guests at home, if you want the heating to stay on you cannot simply switch to Home mode. So you have to then edit your schedules in every room each time you go out!Or another example is if you're away from home for a week but staying close to home, it will still keep the temperature high as it assumes you're on the way home - you can't override it and force it onto Away mode.


Your first scenario, I see on the Tado forum that a Home/Away button is the #1 most requested feature. Fortunately there doesn’t seem to be anything else major missing.

Your second scenario, if you turn off geofencing (settings>geofencing>include device’s location) does yours switch to away mode (room screens go green)?
Mine does, but I can’t be sure that’s a solution, need to test once other family member returns and do the same on their mobile.
DubDriver22/12/2019 20:17

Your first scenario, I see on the Tado forum that a Home/Away button is …Your first scenario, I see on the Tado forum that a Home/Away button is the #1 most requested feature. Fortunately there doesn’t seem to be anything else major missing.Your second scenario, if you turn off geofencing (settings>geofencing>include device’s location) does yours switch to away mode (room screens go green)?Mine does, but I can’t be sure that’s a solution, need to test once other family member returns and do the same on their mobile.


Yeah I saw that on the forum but they haven't even acknowledged the issue. So I worry that it's intended behaviour and they just want everything to be automated without any manual toggles. Which I don't think is possible for home/away detection at the present time

I just tried turning geofencing off and it stayed on Home mode. But my wife also has the app with geofencing enabled so I guess that is why.

Thanks for the suggestion though - it would be a bit of a pain for us both to disable geofencing every time, but that's still a lot easier than editing the schedules every time!
edanfalls22/12/2019 20:40

Yeah I saw that on the forum but they haven't even acknowledged the issue. …Yeah I saw that on the forum but they haven't even acknowledged the issue. So I worry that it's intended behaviour and they just want everything to be automated without any manual toggles. Which I don't think is possible for home/away detection at the present time I just tried turning geofencing off and it stayed on Home mode. But my wife also has the app with geofencing enabled so I guess that is why.Thanks for the suggestion though - it would be a bit of a pain for us both to disable geofencing every time, but that's still a lot easier than editing the schedules every time!


Just tried it, at home, once geofencing was off on all devices then the heating went off.
DubDriver22/12/2019 23:52

Just tried it, at home, once geofencing was off on all devices then the …Just tried it, at home, once geofencing was off on all devices then the heating went off.


Brilliant, thank you, I'll do that in the future when we need to force it into Away mode.
edanfalls22/12/2019 09:11

What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder …What would be your solution if you have some rooms which are much colder than others?



Was looking at those smart trv systems (tado, Nettamo and drayton), and went for the cheapest ones,(drayton wiser), during the black Friday sale. Additional trv around £34 during sales and works great.
Away mode is great, plus added geofencing through IFTTT. Room's temp are now more bearable. No longer have rooms that are too hot or too cold.
Hi All,

Can anyone PLEASE kindly recommend me a Smart System and/or Smart Thermostats that will fully work with a Viessmann 222-F Storage Combi Boiler?

I would strongly prefer a system whereby I do not have to pay a monthly fee/subscription to the brand!

Many Thanks!
Kenneth13122/12/2019 10:43

Depends on the size of house. 20+ rads three floors 12+ rooms over three …Depends on the size of house. 20+ rads three floors 12+ rooms over three floors for example and you would be wasting money maintaing a constant temperature across all area in the home through a programmer and standard TRV heads as when the heating comes on all rooms would go to their temp set on the TRVs at the same time as set by the programmer for the boiler. That means it could be hearing the home when your not in as a standard programmer is just a timer it has no idea if your in or not. Sometimes a families schedule is different day to day as they work shifts so they don't need the heating on during the day one week and the next their Nightshift so don't need it at night.Having this where it knows when your in, you won't waste money heating a home when your not there. It means you can set a more intelligent schedule to only heat the rooms you need when your home rather than heating the whole house. Some rooms might be used one day and not others so that can be done all automatically for you through the scheduling.Essentially you can zone the whole house rather than just each floor and without having to install any more zone valves or stats. Gives a much more granular control over your heating so one person in one room can have the temp they want, another in a different room can have it set to what they want and other rooms not in use can be off so the hot water isn't being wasted heating a room not in use hence the return temp to the boiler hasn't dropped too much, only passing 2 rads in this simple example and thus less gas is used to reheat the water as it's pumped back round the two open rads in the home.So many uses for this and definitely money to be saved by using smart central heating equipmentIf you need more TRVs Tado quad pack TRVs £139 and you would have better control over the system than any system that only uses a smart thermostat


Would cost you a whole lot in valves for that amount of rads.
ifeeltheheat22/12/2019 17:49

What is the point of this if it doesn't turn on the heating at the boiler?



You normally purchase this as an extension to the Tado Thermostat, which does control the boiler.
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