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TeamGroup 8Pack Edition 16GB DDR4 3600MHz C16 (Samsung B-die) £128.99 at Overclockers

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Posted 6th Sep 2019

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This is well reviewed RAM using Samsung B-die chips with high frequency (3600MHz) and tight timings (C16). Should be an excellent fit for Ryzen builds.

For reference, the CAS latency of this is around 11% lower than the typical 3600MHz C18 of other manufacturers.

Lowest ever price as far as I can see. Typical price is around £165 while it was down to £150 last week.

Free shipping for those with enough posts on the OCUK forum, £8.7 otherwise.

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Why is this getting down voted, seems like a good deal??
madmikeyb8306/09/2019 15:26

Why is this getting down voted, seems like a good deal??


Probably because it is not by a Pepper Expert
madmikeyb8306/09/2019 15:26

Why is this getting down voted, seems like a good deal??


maybe because the samsung b-die ram is overpriced and with the 8 pack brand on it even more so.
the savvy amongst us get crucial e-die ram for cheaper
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pooley197706/09/2019 15:32

maybe because the samsung b-die ram is overpriced and with the 8 pack …maybe because the samsung b-die ram is overpriced and with the 8 pack brand on it even more so.the savvy amongst us get crucial e-die ram for cheaper


Can the savvy among you point the rest of us to a 16GB DDR4 3600MHz Cl16 deal cheaper than this then please?

Genuine question as I'm in the market for RAM and may cancel my order of this if a better deal is around.
pooley197706/09/2019 15:32

maybe because the samsung b-die ram is overpriced and with the 8 pack …maybe because the samsung b-die ram is overpriced and with the 8 pack brand on it even more so.the savvy amongst us get crucial e-die ram for cheaper


ok cool, happy to know whats happening, any links for some decent (cheaper) E-Die Ram?
Par7806/09/2019 15:37

Can the savvy among you point the rest of us to a 16GB DDR4 3600MHz Cl16 …Can the savvy among you point the rest of us to a 16GB DDR4 3600MHz Cl16 deal cheaper than this then please? Genuine question as I'm in the market for RAM and may cancel my order of this if a better deal is around.


I think the answer is no they probably can't.

I think what he is referring to is usually found in some ballistix sport LT ram, from what I have seen. Although others are available. Specifically the ram with AES in the part number from memory either 3000 cl15 or 3200 cl16.

Again I think. I have some of the ram from amazon Spain that I got a few months ago and people are reporting it is good for overclocking to 3400-3600 MHz. I don't have any of the other parts for the build except PSU at the moment. It's a long and dull story.

There's someone on here who seems well clued up on the subject. YMMV. I (clearly) am not savvy!
spodham06/09/2019 15:53

I think the answer is no they probably can't.I think what he is referring …I think the answer is no they probably can't.I think what he is referring to is usually found in some ballistix sport LT ram, from what I have seen. Although others are available. Specifically the ram with AES in the part number from memory either 3000 cl15 or 3200 cl16.Again I think. I have some of the ram from amazon Spain that I got a few months ago and people are reporting it is good for overclocking to 3400-3600 MHz. I don't have any of the other parts for the build except PSU at the moment. It's a long and dull story.There's someone on here who seems well clued up on the subject. YMMV. I (clearly) am not savvy!


Fair enough, although overclocking from 3000 or 3200 to 3600 you'll almost certainly have to loosen timings, so unlikely to overclock to 3600 cl16.

Anyway, thought this was a good deal for what it is and decided to post it in case it helps anyone. I ordered two kits myself as I've seen performance improvement in some cases when overclocking my current 3000MHz cl16 (but was not stable).

If this saves someone a few pounds, great, if not, meh.
Par7806/09/2019 15:37

Can the savvy among you point the rest of us to a 16GB DDR4 3600MHz Cl16 …Can the savvy among you point the rest of us to a 16GB DDR4 3600MHz Cl16 deal cheaper than this then please? Genuine question as I'm in the market for RAM and may cancel my order of this if a better deal is around.


tbh for that spec of ram it is quite keenly priced, i voted hot..it's just e-die ram can overclock very good also for cheaper
For £117 you can get the Viper Steel 4000mhz Samsung b-die. It has CL19 and should hopefully clock down to 3600Mhz @CL15 or CL16 which makes it a shade cheaper than this but not a guaranteed CL16.
Par7806/09/2019 16:03

Fair enough, although overclocking from 3000 or 3200 to 3600 you'll almost …Fair enough, although overclocking from 3000 or 3200 to 3600 you'll almost certainly have to loosen timings, so unlikely to overclock to 3600 cl16.Anyway, thought this was a good deal for what it is and decided to post it in case it helps anyone. I ordered two kits myself as I've seen performance improvement in some cases when overclocking my current 3000MHz cl16 (but was not stable).If this saves someone a few pounds, great, if not, meh.


Actually it does as low as 3600 CL14.

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Value for money nothing is going to beat the Crucial unfortunately.
You may want to wait for something better. In the news today.

Samsung Starts Offering First A-Die Based RAM by AleksandarK Today, 16:15 Discuss (26 Comments)
Samsung's B die has been widely known as a good, high performance variant of DRAM memory, loved by overclockers because of its ability to get to a high frequency with relatively low timings. However, B die has been discontinued and now Samsung started offering its replacement in form of the newly developed A die manufactured in 1z nm (1z class) lithography process. Despite the lack of technical details surrounding the new die type, Hardwareluxx has received a tip from its reader about new RAM offering that incorporates A die memory.

The M378A4G43AB2-CVF, as it is called in the listing, is a 32 GB, single dimm DDR4 RAM with operating speed of 2933 MHz and CL21-21-21 timings. This particular offer isn't something to be excited about as the frequency is good, but the timings are quite high for that speed. Given that we don't know where the A die is targeted at, we can speculate that its current aim is at mid-tier systems, where the mediocre performance is okay and the system isn't suffering (performance wise) because of it. Nonetheless this find is quite interesting as it gives first hints at what can we expect in therms of future A die DRAM offerings. Remember, it took some time for B die as well to get to the level of performance we have today, so it is entirely possible that A die will improve and try to aim for greater performance level than it currently has.

New 8 pack DDR4 3600Mhz C14 is due before the end of year. probably cost a lot more too.
Horrorwood06/09/2019 18:14

Actually it does as low as 3600 …Actually it does as low as 3600 CL14.https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ci7yli/best_micron_edie_timmings_for_3600mhz/https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ce1ymz/32gb_micron_e_die_3800_c16_11_ratio_working_great/https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ccos6h/68_cheap_ram_crucial_sport_lt_micron_edie/Value for money nothing is going to beat the Crucial unfortunately.


B-die is still better.
pooley197706/09/2019 15:32

maybe because the samsung b-die ram is overpriced and with the 8 pack …maybe because the samsung b-die ram is overpriced and with the 8 pack brand on it even more so.the savvy amongst us get crucial e-die ram for cheaper


what are you on about the "savvy" get e-die. Good bin B die is still superior in every way, so if you don't mind spending the little extra it's silly to not get it.
powerbrick06/09/2019 20:43

B-die is still better.


Ferraris are still better too, but they also cost a lot more..
Siwoti06/09/2019 21:18

what are you on about the "savvy" get e-die. Good bin B die is still …what are you on about the "savvy" get e-die. Good bin B die is still superior in every way, so if you don't mind spending the little extra it's silly to not get it.


Superior is a bit strong, unless you are super human and can detect about 0.5% difference?
Horrorwood06/09/2019 21:59

Ferraris are still better too, but they also cost a lot more..


And? What analogy are you trying to make Ferraris are better than b-die memory
Nice deal but why pay almost double? :P
powerbrick06/09/2019 22:15

And? What analogy are you trying to make Ferraris are …And? What analogy are you trying to make Ferraris are better than b-die memory


That this costs a lot more but isn't really that much better.

Ferraris cost a lot more too, but you aren't really going to get anywhere faster. Maybe it was a bad analogy

Still if I was buying now then the crucial makes more sense and you can spend the extra on other areas of your system.
I think this discussion about b-die vs e-die, this kit vs others of lower base spec etc is a bit pointless. Here's why.

Yes, there are other kits with different dies that can OC to this spec or even slightly better for less money, depending on your mobo and CPU. But then this kit can (and has been shown to) also OC quite well to even better frequency and timings. Anyone that would rather save some money getting another kit at lower base spec and trying to OC to match performance, more power to 'ya and this deal is not for you. Just keep in mind that a mobo/CPU combination able to OC a 3000MHz or 3200MHz kit to 3600MHz with decent timings would likely also be able to OC this kit to 3800MHz with decent timings.

Having said that, this is a deal in the sense that this kit uses quality chips that have been proven to perform and OC well, is specced at what AMD themselves have said is the performance-cost sweet point for Ryzen (and could potentially OC to what AMD have said is the performance sweet point for Ryzen), and is at the lowest price it's ever been.

I may be wrong here (happy to be corrected) but I don't think a comparable kit has been as cheap in the past. To me, that's a deal and that's why I posted it.
Horrorwood06/09/2019 22:00

Superior is a bit strong, unless you are super human and can detect about …Superior is a bit strong, unless you are super human and can detect about 0.5% difference?


Did you pull 0.5% out of your backside? good b-die, vs good e-die is a measurable difference in benchmarks. The lower tRFC alone that b-die is capable of will grant you more than 0.5%
Siwoti07/09/2019 20:58

Did you pull 0.5% out of your backside? good b-die, vs good e-die is a …Did you pull 0.5% out of your backside? good b-die, vs good e-die is a measurable difference in benchmarks. The lower tRFC alone that b-die is capable of will grant you more than 0.5%


Go on then, back it up
Horrorwood07/09/2019 21:55

Go on then, back it up


I'm confused, so the deal you posted 6 months ago for a 3866MHz Cl19 kit at £130 was good but this one at 3600MHz Cl16 at its lowest ever price is not in your opinion?
Horrorwood07/09/2019 21:55

Go on then, back it up


Right after you show me the 0.5% difference between B-die and E-die.
Par7807/09/2019 22:37

I'm confused, so the deal you posted 6 months ago for a 3866MHz Cl19 kit …I'm confused, so the deal you posted 6 months ago for a 3866MHz Cl19 kit at £130 was good but this one at 3600MHz Cl16 at its lowest ever price is not in your opinion?


Yeah surprisingly prices were different then, also e die wasn't around..
Siwoti07/09/2019 22:41

Right after you show me the 0.5% difference between B-die and E-die.


No problem, what would you like me to test it on?
Edited by: "Horrorwood" 8th Sep 2019
Horrorwood08/09/2019 09:14

No problem, what would you like me to test it on?


Any game or benchmark that scales with memory speed, there's plenty.
alchemist188308/09/2019 23:24

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Actually, yes you may well see a difference depending what you do. Here's an analysis from someone that does know what he's talking about.


And no, this isn't usual pricing or overpriced. Do you use the same argument for higher price partner graphics cards as well? Cause they're more expensive than the original ones, and you do see a difference.
Edited by: "Par78" 9th Sep 2019
alchemist188308/09/2019 23:24

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What a load of drivel. Do you have a source on RAM sticks dieing fast from overclocking or being easy to break?
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