Tenda N150 Access Point / Router / Wireless Bridge W311R+ £13.57 @ Ebuyer
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Tenda N150 Access Point / Router / Wireless Bridge W311R+ £13.57 @ Ebuyer

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Found 28th Jan 2013
£9.99 plus £3.58 Supersaver 5 day delivery

If you want Fast WiFi to one device at a time (eg HD Video to a laptop or media player) this will be fine. You only need dual band if you want 2 devices both running HD video at the SAME time. The Dual band N60 model from Tenda is £29.99 at Ebuyer +P&P

This is a well made access point with detachable antennas and reliable firmware and set up at a good price. I've had several (6 I purchased 4 years ago) all used every day in a variety of demanding uses with phones, media players, FreeSAT, XBOX, PS3, WIi, Internet Radio and phones) with no problem. We have 22 devices on a single ADSL 10meg down / 1 meg up connection, in large old house in a London street no problems with interference or deadspots.

IF YOU WANT TO BUY ONLY ONE 7 day shop is cheaper (Thanks to Gordon Bell for pointing this out) Ebuyer also have the Tenda N60 dual band units for £29.99+P&P

£12.99
7dayshop.com/ten…2U=

Although, if your buying more than one ebuyer would be cheaper.

Tenda Wireless-N150 Access Point / Router

Home Page tenda.cn/ten…354

I have lots of these and user them as

1) Cable Router (I had a ADSL router with poor WiFi, and used this as the Access point
2) One of these in a room with no network access connected to a Sony TV with iPlayer and Ethernet. Stream iPlayer "HD" with no dropped frames
3) Around the house as access points
4) My parent house has poor wiring so a PC upstairs is plugged into one unit that connects by Wifi to a second unit connected to the ADSL modem.

I have them all set up with the SAME SSID so devices in the house just connect to the best signal.

I use one IP address space in my home network so I do not connect ANYTHING to the WAN Port of these units. I also disable the onboard DHCP and get my ADSL modem to do this. I just prefer is this way.

0) Install the latest firmware on all the units BEFORE you start.
1) Connected to it via an Ethernet cable, make SURE you connect to the LAN ports not the single WAN port.
2) Logged in to the default page / login etc
3) Setup wireless connection to unit on ground floor (WDS) same SSID, WPA2 PWD channel etc..
4) Disabled DHCP on the upstairs router.
5) Reboot, the unit will restart and your ethernet connected device will be on the network downstairs.

A few notes.

-Once set up like this you are NOT able to connect to the web interface of the 2nd Wifi AP (in my case upstairs)
The bridge is stable and requires no reset or config changes.

-I've a similar set up at home and the Sony TV (Ethernet only) can use iPlayer etc with no frame drops etc even on HD setting. Kids just power up the TV, remote Tenda etc and it all works reliably had this setup for >4 years.

-You can try this without a Tenda Box at each end BUT you it may not work with WPA / WPA2 / WEP as the different implementations of encryption may not work together well. Especially with older units. COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT IF YOU GET THE SETTINGS WRONG you need to factory reset the Tenda (the seconds one) to reconfigure it. Not a problem only takes a minute hold down the reset button for 30s and reboot. You just need to be patient and organised.


Product Description

W311R+ includes wireless AP, router, 4-port switch and firewall in one, and increases over 3 times transmission speed of ordinary 802.11g products. Compatible with IEEE802.11n (Draft 2.0) and IEEE802.11g/b standards, it can provide stable transmission rate and be dedicated to SOHOs and family networking. In addition, URL and MAC address filtering can take it easy for parents and network administrator to manage networking life, and QoS bandwidth control over specific computers downloading speed is supported as well. Moreover, the included Setup Wizard on CD-ROM will be easy and fast for non-savvy users to install the device and access to the Internet.
Includes router, wireless access point, 4-port switch and firewall in one
Supports WPS (Wi-Fi Protected Setup) encryption methods to secure your networking
Compliant to IEEE802.11n, IEEE802.11g, IEEE802.11b
Supports over 6 times transmission range of 11G products
Supports 64/128-bit WEP, WPA, WPA2, WPA&WPA2 encryption methods
Provides one 10/100Mbps Auto-Negotiation Ethernet WAN port
Provides four 10/100Mbps Auto-Negotiation Ethernet LAN ports
Supports xDSL/Cable MODEM, static and dynamic IP in community networking
Supports remote/local Web management
Supports WMM to better smooth your voice and video
Supports SSID stealth mode and access control based over MAC address (up to 30 entries)
Supports Auto MDI/MDIX
Supports wireless Roaming technology for high-efficient wireless connections
Supports auto negotiation/manual mode for 802.11b/802.11g/802.11n
Supports UPnP and DDNS
Supports Firefox 1.0, IE5.5 or above
Supports SNTP
Supports virtual server, DMZ host
Built-in firewall for hackers attack prevention
Supports DHCP server/client
Supports auto wireless channel selection
Supports LAN control over the Internet access
Provides syslog to record the status of the router
Supports WDS wireless network extension
Supports QoS function
External detachable antenna support for replacing demand

18 Comments

So could I use this to boost my wireless signal from my sky router to my WiFi deadspot in my upstairs bedroom?

Seems like a bargain. Will it work as a switch as well when configured as you suggest? I've got a cable coming downstairs from my Netgear router to a switch where I connect my TV, Sonos and Sky box. Could I replace the switch with this box and get a better wireless signal as well?

Dodge - Yes it will. I have one plugged into the sky router via a long cable and I have it setup as a separate wireless access point and that would leave 3 free ports (4 - 1 for the cable coming from the sky router) for any cabled stuff.

Original Poster

OptimusPrimeval

So could I use this to boost my wireless signal from my sky router to my … So could I use this to boost my wireless signal from my sky router to my WiFi deadspot in my upstairs bedroom?



Yes. I do this. There are a couple of options

1) Wireless Repeater mode or Wireless Distribution mode
2) Use some mains network plugs and one of these to extend the wifi range


I'd recommend option 2) as it is simpler to set up, will not slow down wifi access downstairs and give you massive range as you can install the remote access point anywhere you have a mains outlet. Option 1) demands the second access point is within good range of the Sky router.

I do exactly this for a bedroom in the loft (3 floor house) ADSL modem on ground, mains to loft, AP in loft. I was using the Tenda untill last week, but it did not work with my Nexus4 (bug in phone) so I swapped the Tenda with a Netgear (Virgin cable router - found in skip reflashed to stock firmware)


Edited by: "frownbreaker" 28th Jan 2013

Missed a similar item recently... Might do some homework then bag one tomoriw.

Cheers!

Original Poster

dragunov

Dodge - Yes it will. I have one plugged into the sky router via a long … Dodge - Yes it will. I have one plugged into the sky router via a long cable and I have it setup as a separate wireless access point and that would leave 3 free ports (4 - 1 for the cable coming from the sky router) for any cabled stuff.



The switch ports are all the same yellow colour, the WAN port is blue - just do not use the WAN port and you are fine. I have my Humax PVR (Ethernet) and an Andriod TV (Ethernet) both plugged into the Tenda in the loft. I use main networking (Devolo) instead of a long cable. If you can run a cable that is better than mains networking.

£12.99
7dayshop.com/ten…2U=
NO LONGER IN STOCK - THIS IS ON BACK ORDER

If your buying more than one (or other items from Ebuyer), this is a decent price and would work out cheaper.


There is some more info on Access Points/Repeaters on the first few pages of this link - the later ones are more specific to the device:
hotukdeals.com/dea…813
(this deal was a one-off - I was surprised it was honoured, don't use this as a normal price comparison)



Heat for your informative post / effort....cheers think i'll look into this :-)

It seems i'm not the only one who's Sky Router wireless (n) strength is useless any further than 10ft (and thats with no obstacles such as walls, doors etc. in which case it can literally be inches!!)

Original Poster

Gordon Bell

£12.99http://www.7dayshop.com/tenda-w311r-150mbps-wireless-n-router?backUrl=L2NvbXB1dGVyLW5ldHdvcmstd2lmaS9uZXR3b3JrLWFuZC13aWZpI2Rpcj1hc2Mmb3JkZXI9cHJpY2U=Although, if your buying more than one ebuyer would be cheaper.There is some more info on Access Points/Repeaters on the first few pages of this link - the later ones are more specific to the device:http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/edimax-wk-2083-wireless-150mbps-router-usb-wireless-n-lite-adapter-5-99-4-04-postage-1446813#comments



Thanks for the info Gordon. I've updated my post with your link (and a credit to you)

If folk need a range extender this is an option

amazon.co.uk/Hua…BJU

Its cheap, and simple to setup. Its JUST Wifi to Wifi there is no ethernet port / bridge. But simpler if you want to extended wifi coverage and do not mind losing capacity on the orginal wifi zone this the downside of all Wifi repeaters. This is 300mb unit so is fast most of the others at this price are N150.

Original Poster

Major_Lee

Heat for your informative post / effort....cheers think i'll look into … Heat for your informative post / effort....cheers think i'll look into this :-)It seems i'm not the only one who's Sky Router wireless (n) strength is useless any further than 10ft (and thats with no obstacles such as walls, doors etc. in which case it can literally be inches!!)



Worth running a scanner on a laptop like InSSIDer or on Android Wifi Analyser to look for spare channels etc as other WiFi (neighbours etc) often reduce signal strength. Just set the Sky box to use a different channel. Also worth moving the unit to a higher location not shielded by equipment as most modem are just dumped in a corner somewhere without too much thought to positioning for Wifi coverange.

Damn! Just paid £17.99 for one from Amazon Marketplace.:(

Not sure why this is cold, especially since the OP went to such lengths to share config insight. Lots of functionality to for a cheap router. Heat added by me, would have added rep too but I'm too inept to work out how.

If you are interested in using multiple cheap wifi routers to for a single hotspot, its worth looking at ddwrt.com - it allows you to change the firmware of many low end routers to support functionality usually only found at the corporate end. It also means that diverse scrap routers from various sources can be set up to befunctionally identical and interoperable. I've built similar facilities in our house using Dlink DIR-615 routers that cost about a fiver on ebay.

Worth running a scanner on a laptop like InSSIDer or on Android Wifi … Worth running a scanner on a laptop like InSSIDer or on Android Wifi Analyser to look for spare channels etc as other WiFi (neighbours etc) often reduce signal strength. Just set the Sky box to use a different channel. Also worth moving the unit to a higher location not shielded by equipment as most modem are just dumped in a corner somewhere without too much thought to positioning for Wifi coverange.



Thanks, nice tip.

frownbreaker

Yes. I do this. There are a couple of options1) Wireless Repeater mode or … Yes. I do this. There are a couple of options1) Wireless Repeater mode or Wireless Distribution mode2) Use some mains network plugs and one of these to extend the wifi rangeI'd recommend option 2) as it is simpler to set up, will not slow down wifi access downstairs and give you massive range as you can install the remote access point anywhere you have a mains outlet. Option 1) demands the second access point is within good range of the Sky router.I do exactly this for a bedroom in the loft (3 floor house) ADSL modem on ground, mains to loft, AP in loft. I was using the Tenda untill last week, but it did not work with my Nexus4 (bug in phone) so I swapped the Tenda with a Netgear (Virgin cable router - found in skip reflashed to stock firmware)



Thanks for the info. Very useful.

Heat added :-)

I BOUGHT THE DUAL BAND VERSION THAT WAS POSTED ON HERE A FEW WEEKS BACK,

If this one performs like the dual band one its a steal at that price. The dual band one is the best router ive owned.

Original Poster

WessexUnderwater

Not sure why this is cold, especially since the OP went to such lengths … Not sure why this is cold, especially since the OP went to such lengths to share config insight. Lots of functionality to for a cheap router. Heat added by me, would have added rep too but I'm too inept to work out how.If you are interested in using multiple cheap wifi routers to for a single hotspot, its worth looking at http://www.ddwrt.com - it allows you to change the firmware of many low end routers to support functionality usually only found at the corporate end. It also means that diverse scrap routers from various sources can be set up to befunctionally identical and interoperable. I've built similar facilities in our house using Dlink DIR-615 routers that cost about a fiver on ebay.



Good point, was at the father in laws the other day he needed a switch to connect his FreeSat box to the internet as he only had a PC before and suing mains networking he only had one ethernet port in the room. He did have an old Sky router modem. I plugged it in to the main, logged in on my phone, set the wifi security to WPA2 AES PSK, disabled the DHCP, saved the setting, rebooted then plug the mains network, the PC and the FreeSAT into the switch part of the modem and he now has a Wifi AP and switch in the loft! Not bad for an old Sky modem. Of course and cable or ADSL modem can be used in this way. I had an old Sagem SKY modem my mum no longer needed re-flashed with official SAGEM firmware and it allow dual zone Wifi and many features not in the SKY firmware.

A word of warning if you have a working ADSL modem its best not to change the firmware while you are using it as if you get it wrong you will have no internet and flashing alternative firmware can void warranties!

ddwrt rocks and opens up amazing options - but even with stock firmware (the ones from Virgin, Sky etc) a lot can be done.

If you are new to firmware, home network etc start with small simple steps. Then build on the small successes. Large complex setups may not work as expected first time and debugging things can take some time!


Edited by: "frownbreaker" 29th Jan 2013

Original Poster

thommo74

I BOUGHT THE DUAL BAND VERSION THAT WAS POSTED ON HERE A FEW WEEKS BACK, … I BOUGHT THE DUAL BAND VERSION THAT WAS POSTED ON HERE A FEW WEEKS BACK, If this one performs like the dual band one its a steal at that price. The dual band one is the best router ive owned.



The difference between this and the dual band is that this is an N150 unit (single band) the big difference is the Dual band can send / receive data to 2 devices concurrently. So for example you can stream video in HD to two devices without any issues on the N300 units. N150 can do HD to a single device without issue. Of course this depends on your source, interconnects and other bits and bobs. But this is a fast unit fine for 7 or 8 devices with web, video, iPlayer etc. at the same time. Remember iPlayer "HD" is not full HD.

Also look at the other parts of you network. I used AV200 mains network plugs and notice upgrading to AV500 on the ADSL modem end and the main media server improved things a lot.

I've ordered 2 of the Dual band Tenda N60s as there are HD capable tablets and laptops in the house. £29 ebuyer +P&P
Edited by: "frownbreaker" 29th Jan 2013

Original Poster

WessexUnderwater

Thanks, nice tip.



You are welcome, I've found that Wireless distribution system WDS seldom works reliabily if at all using encryption like WPA2 if the units are from different vendors / models (this is where DDWRT really helps) or use 2 access points that are the same make / model.

I would really advise AGAINST using open, WEP, WPA stick to WPA2 with a PSK that is at least 12 characters long. Do not use the "push button wireless security" disable this as it has serious security flaws"

Finally if you do get an old ADSL or Cable modem you want to use do a factory reset (button on back or on base) hold down and power on for 20 while holding the button down then release. Google for the default login or it might be on a sticker on the base.

The Security Now podcast is worth a listen. If you open ports up to the internet the shields up page at GRC.COM is worth a look, grc.com/x/n…yd2 and for passwords there is a generator at grc.com/pas…htm

Also GRC.COM has good DNS speed testing, you can change your DNS provider and notice that web page loads get faster if your ISP has poor DNS.



Edited by: "frownbreaker" 29th Jan 2013
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