TFL - use contactless payment card for capped fares. Adult daily off-peak fares from £4.40
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TFL - use contactless payment card for capped fares. Adult daily off-peak fares from £4.40

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Found 23rd Jan 2015
This is going to be a long one so read carefully, basically using contactless payments on London transport and benefit from capped daily and weekly fares.

What is capping?
Capping is a feature of pay as you go. It allows you to travel as much as you like in a single day or a week (from Monday to Sunday) and limits the amount you pay for all your travel.
How does it work?
Daily capping
Monday to Sunday capping
Card expiry

Pay as you go with capping means you don't need to decide in advance which ticket would be the most suitable, allowing you to be flexible with your travel throughout a day or week without needing to buy additional tickets or worrying that you have spent more than you need. Caps are applied automatically at the end of each day where appropriate.

You must touch in on and out on every journey (touch in only on buses and trams) using the same contactless payment card to benefit from capping. Maximum fares charged for incomplete journeys do not count towards a cap.

How does it work?
For all the journeys you make, the system automatically keeps a running total of:

All the zones you travel through
The time you touch in on each journey (this determines both the fare and the daily cap)
All fares paid in a single day
All fares paid between each Monday and the following Sunday
When the total cost for all journeys reaches a pre-determined limit, a cap is applied. When you reach a cap, you won't be charged for further journeys in the same zones for the rest of the day/week.

Different caps apply depending on which transport services you use:

All services; if your journeys include travel on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground or National Rail services
Bus & Tram: if you only use buses and trams
Some journeys are defined as requiring travel via Zone 1 and are charged and capped accordingly, irrespective of the route you take.

Daily capping
Daily anytime caps apply for Tube, DLR, London Overground and National Rail services within Zones 1-6.

Daily off-peak caps apply for journeys outside Zones 1-6. You could reach an off-peak cap if you make several journeys on the same day on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground and National Rail services during the following hours:

Monday to Friday: from 09:30 until 04:30 the following day
Saturday, Sunday and public holidays: from 04:30 until 04:30 the following day
Off-peak caps at different times

Off-peak caps apply from different times on journeys that start at some stations north of Chorleywood and Headstone Lane.

If you travel from a station north of Chorleywood or Headstone Lane on a weekday after the times below, you'll be charged a peak pay as you go fare, but your journey will count towards an Off-Peak cap.

North of Headstone Lane

Station Touch in times
Bushey After 09:20
Carpenders Park After 09:20
Watford High Street

After 09:10

North of Chorleywood

Station Touch in times
Chesham After 09:10
Amersham After 09:10
Chalfont & Latimer After 09:20
What are the benefits of daily capping?

The adult-rate cap for bus and tram travel only is £4.40. So if you make three or more journeys in a day, your bus and tram fares will be capped.

If you make several rail journeys or a mixture of rail, bus and tram journeys in one day, capping is better value than buying a Day Travelcard.

Daily capping compared to Day Travelcards

If you make several rail journeys or a mixture of rail, bus and tram journeys in one day, daily capping is better value than buying a Day Travelcard.

Day Travelcards are only available across the following zonal combinations:

Zones 1-4
Zones 1-6
Zones 1-9
Zone 1 to Watford Junction
Zone 1 to Broxbourne
Zone 1 to Shenfield
However, daily caps are available across more zonal combinations:

Zones 1-2
Zones 1-3
Zones 1-4
Zones 1-5
Zones 1-6
Zones 1-9
Zones 1 to Watford Junction
Zone 1 to Broxbourne
Zone 1 to Shenfield
View the fares tables to find out daily capping rates.

Monday to Sunday capping
If you make multiple journeys in a single week starting on Monday and finishing on the following Sunday using the same contactless payment card, your fares will be capped.

How does it work?

Monday to Sunday capping is calculated for all journeys you make from a Monday to the following Sunday. If you travel for a single week starting from (for example) Thursday to the following Wednesday, you won't get a Monday to Sunday cap.

Monday to Sunday capping is calculated by analysing the cumulative daily totals as the week progresses and applying a Monday to Sunday cap when appropriate.

To benefit from Monday to Sunday capping, you must:

Use the same contactless payment card for every journey, all week
Make sure to touch in on the yellow card reader at the start of each journey and touch out at the end of all rail journeys
Start using your contactless payment card on a Monday for maximum benefit; although you can buy a 7 Day Travelcard or Bus & Tram Pass to start on any day of the week, Monday to Sunday capping always calculates your week of travel from a Monday and finishes on the following Sunday
If you reach a Monday to Sunday cap before the following Sunday, you will not be charged for any subsequent journeys made with that card, within the zones of the cap, until 04:30 next Monday, provided you continue to touch in and touch out as necessary.

View the fares tables to find out Monday to Sunday capping rates.

Card expiry
If your card is due to expire, and you have been issued with a new card, do not start using the replacement card until a Monday if you want to benefit from Monday to Sunday capping. You cannot transfer journeys made from one card to a replacement to reach a cap.

If you have signed up for a TfL online account, we will send you an email reminding you that your card is due to expire soon. We will do this 14 and 3 days before the expiry date, with a final reminder on the day the card expires.

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Original Poster

Direct link to capped fares tables

tfl.gov.uk/far…res

Original Poster

arma_gera

copyright DM … copyright DM ;)http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/experts/article-2911544/The-contactless-trick-save-money-tube-London-avoid-paying-weekly-travelcard.html



I admit I did read it on there but the info I have posted is from the official tfl website - I don't exactly take dm as the truth so I checked it out first before I posted - thought it may help anyone travelling in London even if they're only visiting for a few days and don't want to get an oyster card
Edited by: "Suzannzan" 23rd Jan 2015

glad you have posted, this is hot deal regardless from where it has inspired you..

Suzannzan

I admit I did read it on there but the info I have posted is from the … I admit I did read it on there but the info I have posted is from the official tfl website - I don't exactly take dm as the truth so I checked it out first before I posted - thought it may help anyone travelling in London even if they're only visiting for a few days and don't want to get an oyster card





Edited by: "arma_gera" 23rd Jan 2015

Original Poster

arma_gera

glad you have posted, this is hot deal regardless from where it has … glad you have posted, this is hot deal regardless from where it has inspired you.



Thank you - gotta say I checked hukd to see if it was posted before I did so I was surprised to find no one had!
Edited by: "Suzannzan" 23rd Jan 2015

So to summarise your huge thread and for confirmation please;

If you do not pay for a ticket, but instead use your Contactless Payment Card (Visa/Mastercard etc) that has this symbol on:

http://skintinthecity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/imagesCAGE34JX1.jpg

And use it on the Yellow "OysterCard" touch points on the barriers in/out of the stations, you can pay a maximum of £4.40 per day, rather than the £6.90 previously?

https://www.transportxtra.com/files/2551-l.jpg

Please confirm, any Londoners more knowledgeable than I.



Edited by: "CDR" 23rd Jan 2015

Yep used this on 2nd of jan when this come into effect. Bloody handy cos we were going to buy travel cards but were informed if we have contactless payment cards our fares would be capped at £6.40 instead of buying £12 travel cards.

CDR

So to summarise your huge thread and for confirmation please;If you do not … So to summarise your huge thread and for confirmation please;If you do not pay for a ticket, but instead use your Contactless Payment Card (Visa/Mastercard etc) that has this symbol on:And use it on the Yellow "OysterCard" touch points on the barriers in/out of the stations, you can pay a maximum of £4.40 per day, rather than the £6.90 previously?Please confirm, any Londoners more knowledgeable than I.



yes if its the bus and tram you use costs a couple of quid more to use the tube too.

Original Poster

Yep - just make sure you check the links for the grid of charges - it's very 'comprehensive' - lengthy by tfl due to all the zones!

If you are doing 5-7 straight none Monday to Sunday days consider a weekly zoned Oyster
Less chance to mess up
If doing rail journeys specific Oyster fares apply to initial journeys (Will cap at day card rate with enough journeys)
When not using zone 1 always use Pink card readers EVERYWHERE AVAILABLE or you will be charged extra
Under normal use be sure your card is read correctly (Register your cad online.)
Station staff can not help at all with contactless problems They have no access to your bank card information.



Please be aware of a fault on the system when avoiding zone 1 and using the pink oyster card readers.

If you accidentally use a pink reader and then exit that station via a yellow reader it will over charge you.

I've had it happen to me when going via Highbury & Islington (use pink card reader) go via Overground to Stratford (use pink card reader) and exit at Stratford and get charged the zone 1 fare. Quite often I change at Stratford to continue a journey elsewhere so have to use the pink card reader there.

If a similar thing happens to you just call customer services and get a refund.

Really TFL should update their system but it is probably a nice little money earner for them when people do not spot they've been charged too much.

I don't get the point of this?

AFAIK, Oyster cards have always capped anyway and when they brought out contactless cards they worked exactly the same way as oyster cards so there's nothing new?
Edited by: "Ulti" 23rd Jan 2015

Ulti

I don't get the point of this? AFAIK, Oyster cards have always capped … I don't get the point of this? AFAIK, Oyster cards have always capped anyway and when they bought out contactless cards they worked exactly the same way as oyster cards so there's nothing new?



Stupidly, not quite. Contactless cards cap at different intervals. It's cheaper to use contactless

.don't forget to link your rail card to your Oyster card eg senior card and get senior rail card discounts as well.

Ulti

I don't get the point of this? AFAIK, Oyster cards have always capped … I don't get the point of this? AFAIK, Oyster cards have always capped anyway and when they brought out contactless cards they worked exactly the same way as oyster cards so there's nothing new?



Daily cap remains the same.. The difference is only with weekly charge.. You need to activate oyster as weekly pass if u intend to use over the whole week, else you continue paying the daily cap for the 2 extra days which will prove more expensive than a weekly pass

Edited by: "blkwhte" 23rd Jan 2015

Did not realise London buses have stopped accepting cash.. So good I read this article..

I remember reading news articles about this back November, used my contactless debit card when I went down to London mid-October and it had a capped daily fare then, very convenient.
Edited by: "kneale81" 23rd Jan 2015

All the tickets offices are closing, starting next month.

Sad for the staff.

Ok I'm really confused, i thought contactless and oyster were the same price for the cap off. Can somebody please tell me the cap of for zone 1-4?
Thanks

pookey1

Ok I'm really confused, i thought contactless and oyster were the same … Ok I'm really confused, i thought contactless and oyster were the same price for the cap off. Can somebody please tell me the cap of for zone 1-4?Thanks


The daily caps are the same. The difference is that Oyster does NOT have a weekly cap, where as contactless WILL cap at the equivalent weekly ticket for the zones used (so if you only used zones 1-3 for 7 days Monday to Sunday, oyster would charge you 7 x daily cap for zones 1-3, contactless would charge you 1 x weekly travelcard price for zones 1-3).

Link for TFL fare rates is in comments above.

Heat for the effort

So, as a non-oyster card holder, if I want to go into London from a station in zone 4, I don't need to buy a travelcard but can use a contactless credit/debit card at each yellow touch point and pay a maximum fare for a day of £9.20 off-peak compared to £12.00 for a travelcard. Have I got this right?

I use a PAYG Oyster card mon-fri zones 1-6, so would this work out cheaper to use my debit card instead?

tickedon

The daily caps are the same. The difference is that Oyster does NOT have … The daily caps are the same. The difference is that Oyster does NOT have a weekly cap, where as contactless WILL cap at the equivalent weekly ticket for the zones used (so if you only used zones 1-3 for 7 days Monday to Sunday, oyster would charge you 7 x daily cap for zones 1-3, contactless would charge you 1 x weekly travelcard price for zones 1-3). Link for TFL fare rates is in comments above.



That's correct but if you travel to work only from Mon to Fri in zones 1-4 then it doesn't matter if you will use oyster or contact-less card. It will be exactly the same if I'm not wrong.

Original Poster

Remember if you don't have an oyster and want one its £5 deposit - contactless is no deposit and no queue to get one - particularly helpful if you're only visiting London or just don't want an oyster for whatever reason.
Edited by: "Suzannzan" 23rd Jan 2015

The biggest deal is the reduction to daily caps which means my zone 1 and 2 cap is £6.60 saving £2 a day on a travel card to last year. This is equivalent to a a travel card in my third journey so it's really convenient when getting around. Also, make sure you sign up online and you can apply for any refunds like the circle line signal failure this week.

I use to be able pay 90p to travel within zone 2

why is this a deal?

abulkasam

The biggest deal is the reduction to daily caps which means my zone 1 and … The biggest deal is the reduction to daily caps which means my zone 1 and 2 cap is £6.60 saving £2 a day on a travel card to last year. This is equivalent to a a travel card in my third journey so it's really convenient when getting around. Also, make sure you sign up online and you can apply for any refunds like the circle line signal failure this week.


I might be wrong but I can't see cap £6.60 for zone 1-2. Are you sure you are checking this correctly. I really can't see any difference between Oyster and ContacLess if you use it from Mon to Fri. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Informative for non-Londoners. Nothing new for Londoners, Tube has been accepting contactless since last Sep. Bus since Dec 2012.

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hotdealseeker

Informative for non-Londoners. Nothing new for Londoners, Tube has been … Informative for non-Londoners. Nothing new for Londoners, Tube has been accepting contactless since last Sep. Bus since Dec 2012.



Yeah I was thinking more for non Londoners / non regular tube users - like you say the everyday commenters will I exorct already be switched on with these kinds of things

DonkeyKonk

All the tickets offices are closing, starting next month.Sad for the … All the tickets offices are closing, starting next month.Sad for the staff.



What staff? There are rarely staff at my local station for at least the last 15 years and when they are there they ignore or point to the ticket machines.

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Bluefusion

I use a PAYG Oyster card mon-fri zones 1-6, so would this work out … I use a PAYG Oyster card mon-fri zones 1-6, so would this work out cheaper to use my debit card instead?



Yes as no peak times with contactless!

ehh, you can just use your oyster?

How exactly is this a hot deal?

This has been in place for ages, and you can just use your oyster card, exactly the same

Original Poster

And if you don't have or don't want an oyster...

Original Poster

As I say I was thinking this is more of a deal for visitors who don't have or don't want an oyster
Edited by: "Suzannzan" 23rd Jan 2015

Im very confused by what is being said, and so others seem to be asking as well.

I was shocked to have to pay £12 for a travel card the other day, that cost me £8.90 before Christmas.

For my monthly trip into London, what's the cheapest way to pay for 1-6 off peak travel?

Kazan

I might be wrong but I can't see cap £6.60 for zone 1-2. Are you sure you … I might be wrong but I can't see cap £6.60 for zone 1-2. Are you sure you are checking this correctly. I really can't see any difference between Oyster and ContacLess if you use it from Mon to Fri. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Why are you obsessed with this 'Mon to Friday' comment?!

Most Londoners will commute 5 days a week, and then use their Oyster on the at least one other day for leisure or shopping etc. Regardless though, contactless = better caps than Oyster = worth this being a deal.

Kazan

I might be wrong but I can't see cap £6.60 for zone 1-2. Are you sure you … I might be wrong but I can't see cap £6.60 for zone 1-2. Are you sure you are checking this correctly. I really can't see any difference between Oyster and ContacLess if you use it from Mon to Fri. Please correct me if I'm wrong.



tfl.gov.uk/cam…318

It's on here. And can confirm as have been using this month so far.
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