The Case Against Sugar - 99p on Amazon Kindle
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The Case Against Sugar - 99p on Amazon Kindle

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Found 20th Dec 2017
Not for everyone, especially considering thetime of year, but been tracking this one for months £11+ And now a 99p deal
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Ah, so not an anti Apprentice book after Sundays very dodgy finale...
THE CASE FOR SUGAR

Naturally occuring

Doesnt damage kidneys or liver.

No links to cancer.

All side effects can be treated easily and relatively inexpensively.
Isn't sugar one of the causes of obesity, which seems to have links to cancer?
Gentle_Giant13 m ago

THE CASE FOR SUGARNaturally occuringDoesnt damage kidneys or liver.No …THE CASE FOR SUGARNaturally occuringDoesnt damage kidneys or liver.No links to cancer.All side effects can be treated easily and relatively inexpensively.


When's the book coming out?
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Ah, so not an anti Apprentice book after Sundays very dodgy finale...
Great book, great man a
THE CASE FOR SUGAR

Naturally occuring

Doesnt damage kidneys or liver.

No links to cancer.

All side effects can be treated easily and relatively inexpensively.
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Isn't sugar one of the causes of obesity, which seems to have links to cancer?
Gentle_Giant13 m ago

THE CASE FOR SUGARNaturally occuringDoesnt damage kidneys or liver.No …THE CASE FOR SUGARNaturally occuringDoesnt damage kidneys or liver.No links to cancer.All side effects can be treated easily and relatively inexpensively.


When's the book coming out?
Gentle_Giant26 m ago

THE CASE FOR SUGARNaturally occuringDoesnt damage kidneys or liver.No …THE CASE FOR SUGARNaturally occuringDoesnt damage kidneys or liver.No links to cancer.All side effects can be treated easily and relatively inexpensively.


Arsenic is also naturally occurring. Drink some lately?

Do be quiet.
stevenfeeney10 m ago

Arsenic is also naturally occurring. Drink some lately? Do be quiet.


I probably had some in my rice the other day what's your point
stevenfeeney13 m ago

Arsenic is also naturally occurring. Drink some lately? Do be quiet.



So you are happy to ingest Stevia, a substance that has had NO long term testing on humans, and was pushed through the FDA by intense political pressure via Pepsi and Coke groups; shades of Thalidomide!!!

Or Phenylalanine; which has been linked to Liver Cancer.??

My children get sugar, it is much easier to cope with brushing teeth and exercise than chemotherapy or dialysis.
To be fair he does hire some crap candidates.
Gentle_Giant53 m ago

So you are happy to ingest Stevia, a substance that has had NO long term …So you are happy to ingest Stevia, a substance that has had NO long term testing on humans, and was pushed through the FDA by intense political pressure via Pepsi and Coke groups; shades of Thalidomide!!!Or Phenylalanine; which has been linked to Liver Cancer.??My children get sugar, it is much easier to cope with brushing teeth and exercise than chemotherapy or dialysis.


Diabetes, here we come
lol, it's just sugar people.
who doesnt like sugar its in everything, even bees make a form of it so how can it be bad
stevenfeeney1 h, 58 m ago

Arsenic is also naturally occurring. Drink some lately? Do be quiet.



so is cake, had some recently

so be quiet yourself
Too Much of any thing is bad whether natural or not. Question is how much is too much... for each substance that will be different.
In athletes sugar and carbs a good source of energy during exercise. Also in malnourished it is a good source of energy too.

In non-athletes too much carbs are bad ...and just as bad as saturated fats like butter.. both lead to increase in visceral fat and metabolic changes that lead to diabetes.

Sugar replacements such as saccharin are best used as a means to wean diabetics of sweet food. In the long run wean off sweet food and high calorie food is the best approach to managing diabetes.
There is no need to use them except in obese and diabetics.
As for sugar replacements causing illness none of it is established just conjecture.
Edited by: "AbuG" 20th Dec 2017
Gentle_Giant1 h, 56 m ago

So you are happy to ingest Stevia, a substance that has had NO long term …So you are happy to ingest Stevia, a substance that has had NO long term testing on humans, and was pushed through the FDA by intense political pressure via Pepsi and Coke groups; shades of Thalidomide!!!Or Phenylalanine; which has been linked to Liver Cancer.??My children get sugar, it is much easier to cope with brushing teeth and exercise than chemotherapy or dialysis.


Bit of a leap there? Somebody doesn't want to have added sugar so therefore must be happy with artificial sweeteners? How about people who want neither.

I do agree to a point though, sugar is okay in moderation. People do consume too much but I don't personally see the need to cut it out entirely, I try to get most of mine from fruit etc but am happy to ahve a little added where necesary. As an example I find it frustrating that its harder and harder to get squash without sweetners, I used to avoid the 'no added sugar stuff' but now even the other stuff often has sweeteners.
Gentle_Giant2 h, 5 m ago

So you are happy to ingest Stevia, a substance that has had NO long term …So you are happy to ingest Stevia, a substance that has had NO long term testing on humans, and was pushed through the FDA by intense political pressure via Pepsi and Coke groups; shades of Thalidomide!!!Or Phenylalanine; which has been linked to Liver Cancer.??My children get sugar, it is much easier to cope with brushing teeth and exercise than chemotherapy or dialysis.


Who said I was happy to ingest Stevia? Assume much?

Also, why does the risks around Stevia correlate to the healthiness of sugar? The two are not linked. Both substances are independent but simply sit within the same market.

Even if Stevia is full on piosonous; that does not lessen the effects of sugar. Until you display some critical thinking skills I suggest you pipe down trying to tell people not to read literature which is well reviewed, well sourced and attempting to promote health.

Or of course; we should listen to your housewife science. Next you will be telling us wet hair causes colds.
bjrosl2 h, 33 m ago

Isn't sugar one of the causes of obesity, which seems to have links to …Isn't sugar one of the causes of obesity, which seems to have links to cancer?


I think you'd call that an indirect link - very indirect, as in you'd have to abuse its intake to case obesity and continue to be obese to increase your likelihood of cancer.

Everything in moderation. Don't let the Food Nazis shame you into controlling your life.
janz7024 m ago

who doesnt like sugar its in everything, even bees make a form of it so …who doesnt like sugar its in everything, even bees make a form of it so how can it be bad


And snakes even make venom; how can that be bad?! I personally love to use everything nature provides. It's why my shampoo is made out of poison ivy.

The meme that *nature is good* and *man-made is bad* needs to die in a fire. It is absolute hogwash.
Edited by: "stevenfeeney" 20th Dec 2017
moob6 m ago

I think you'd call that an indirect link - very indirect, as in you'd have …I think you'd call that an indirect link - very indirect, as in you'd have to abuse its intake to case obesity and continue to be obese to increase your likelihood of cancer.Everything in moderation. Don't let the Food Nazis shame you into controlling your life.


I consume far more the average amount of sugar. No one would consider me a food Nazi but that is not what the book is saying. It exposes the sheer amount of added sugar to even everyday foodstuffs that humans never previously felt the need to add sugar to. It exposes an industry which does indeed profit from a huge Western addiction.

In South America they call sugar the cocaeena of the West. It is very much a drug just a subtle one that is unregulated. The book is good but like all things in life we take what we need and reject the rest.

Personally I like to read things that disagree with my world view.
Sugar in a refined form is pure poison. ALL the latest research backs this up.
Fat is GOOD for you and doesn't make you fat (hydrogenated is very bad and some omega 3 oils are inflammatory)
Sugar in whole fruit and honey is still sugar, but also contains fiber which is better than refined sugar.
Drinking fruit juice is just like drinking coke because most of the fiber is removed and sugar, highly concentrated.

Please don't post nonsense just to justify your poor diet choices. Only an utter moron or someone who is highly addicted (sugar activates the same regions of the brain as cocaine) would deny the latest research.

>> 50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blame At Fat <<

>> Listen to expert Rhonda Patrick talk about cutting edge health & diet research on the Joe Rogan podcast <<
Edited by: "MadeInBeats" 20th Dec 2017
janz7028 m ago

so is cake, had some recently so be quiet yourself


Cake is naturally occurring? You are right. Last time I was hiking I just picked bread rolls direct from the bushes. There were Victoria sponges in the trees.

Are you sane?
MadeInBeats2 m ago

Sugar in a refined form is pure poison. ALL the latest research backs this …Sugar in a refined form is pure poison. ALL the latest research backs this up.Fat is GOOD for you and doesn't make you fat (hydrogenated is very bad and some omega 3 oils are inflammatory)Sugar in whole fruit and honey is still sugar, but also contains fiber which is better than refined sugar.Drinking fruit juice is just like drinking coke because most of the fiber is removed.Please don't post nonsense just to justify your poor diet choices. Only an utter moron or someone who is highly addicted (sugar activates the same regions of the brain as cocaine) would deny the latest research. >> 50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blame At Fat <<


I wouldn't bother. A bunch of people with no intention of reading the book have descended on the thread to drop their wisdom about nutritional science.
stevenfeeney11 m ago

I consume far more the average amount of sugar. No one would consider me …I consume far more the average amount of sugar. No one would consider me a food Nazi but that is not what the book is saying. It exposes the sheer amount of added sugar to even everyday foodstuffs that humans never previously felt the need to add sugar to. It exposes an industry which does indeed profit from a huge Western addiction. In South America they call sugar the cocaeena of the West. It is very much a drug just a subtle one that is unregulated. The book is good but like all things in life we take what we need and reject the rest. Personally I like to read things that disagree with my world view.


I'm not disagreeing with that or the absolute need to challenge everything and anything we read. What I have issue with are the idiots who've read one report somewhere, believed its content without question and thereafter purport that as the absolute truth.
Wow, can or worms opened here OP.

I'll what the website was invented for.... I'll vote hot on something that you posted because it is almost an 11th of the cost.

Cheers.
stevenfeeney10 m ago

I wouldn't bother. A bunch of people with no intention of reading the …I wouldn't bother. A bunch of people with no intention of reading the book have descended on the thread to drop their wisdom about nutritional science.


They are basically drug (dopamine) addicts. They will exhaust every excuse before anything else. Facebook, phones, alerts, Likes... food... ! It's all dopamine. We live in a world full of dopamine addicts. You just have to look after yourself and lead by example for the most part. It's frustrating isn't it... but what can you do. I'm 37 and get mistaken for mid/late 20s all the time. People I went to school with look like absolute wrecks.
There is nothing wrong with sugar. It is peoples lack of exercise, attitude to portion control & lifestyles that are the main problem. Book is a worth reading to educate however. Voted hot.
Edited by: "jp1843" 20th Dec 2017
I recently did a diet where gave up any added sugars or sweeteners was shocked that after completing I really no longer wanted so much. I now find lots of my old treats way to sweet and how much more I enjoy fruit. This book interests me. Thanks OP.
If you read the latest real scientific facts on sugar, addiction and it's major contribution to the spreading obesity epidemic
you would be very mindful of its continued use in just about all processed foods.......it's a good change or die report
but hey it's your choice...believe or not

20 years a processed food and therefore a sugar addict....but no more...and 3 stone lost......fit as butchers dog ...
with a very happy wife
That reminds me , of the song Sugar Sugar by the Archies.
I'll save my 99p and spend it on chocolate instead
In this thread...

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Edited by: "djbenny1" 20th Dec 2017
stevenfeeney5 h, 52 m ago

Cake is naturally occurring? You are right. Last time I was hiking I …Cake is naturally occurring? You are right. Last time I was hiking I just picked bread rolls direct from the bushes. There were Victoria sponges in the trees. Are you sane?



the last time we checked we were,

All the ingredients in the bread rolls and victoria sponges you collected on your walk are natural

And snake poison is also good in moderation - keep your misinformed and ill educated opinions to yourself
In the UK, historically, the government bribed food manufacturers to include sugar in their products, to help the British sugar industry, not something they do now, or will readily admit to.

UK foods do contain a lot more sugar than many European countries; a fact made clear to me over a decade ago with (of all things) a bottle of Fanta orange.

Heading off to the Alps with a 2Litre bottle from our local shop; finished it somewhere near Rheims and bought the same branded bottle when stopping for fuel; it tasted horribly sour, so I checked the info and it contained 30% of the sugar the UK version did.

Heinz baked beans were another one, something like 30% of the content by weight was sugar.

Now, sugar has preserving properties, so it is used in many traditional recipes for that reason; substituting artificial sweeteners will seem to work, but the product goes off much faster.

Artificial sweeteners all have rather dodgy histories and under-publicized side effects.

(This is something I studied at Uni 25 years ago.)

As for "experts". I seem to remember them telling us for decades, not to give young children peanuts, because it might cause peanut allergies; and what have the results of research on the subject shown, only this year?? The exact opposite.
janz701 h, 56 m ago

the last time we checked we were,All the ingredients in the bread rolls …the last time we checked we were,All the ingredients in the bread rolls and victoria sponges you collected on your walk are natural And snake poison is also good in moderation - keep your misinformed and ill educated opinions to yourself


You actually believe that drivel don't you? Snakes do not produce poison.

Holy hell.
Edited by: "stevenfeeney" 20th Dec 2017
Gentle_Giant42 m ago

In the UK, historically, the government bribed food manufacturers to …In the UK, historically, the government bribed food manufacturers to include sugar in their products, to help the British sugar industry, not something they do now, or will readily admit to.UK foods do contain a lot more sugar than many European countries; a fact made clear to me over a decade ago with (of all things) a bottle of Fanta orange.Heading off to the Alps with a 2Litre bottle from our local shop; finished it somewhere near Rheims and bought the same branded bottle when stopping for fuel; it tasted horribly sour, so I checked the info and it contained 30% of the sugar the UK version did.Heinz baked beans were another one, something like 30% of the content by weight was sugar.Now, sugar has preserving properties, so it is used in many traditional recipes for that reason; substituting artificial sweeteners will seem to work, but the product goes off much faster.Artificial sweeteners all have rather dodgy histories and under-publicized side effects.(This is something I studied at Uni 25 years ago.)As for "experts". I seem to remember them telling us for decades, not to give young children peanuts, because it might cause peanut allergies; and what have the results of research on the subject shown, only this year?? The exact opposite.


Ah yes the old generic "experts" line. A catch all term that encompasses all of academia, science, technology, engineering and medicine. Just experts. No nuance required. Not a single individual or research body.

Just experts. Good stuff. I needed a laugh.
stevenfeeney1 h, 14 m ago

You actually believe that drivel don't you? Snakes do not produce poison. …You actually believe that drivel don't you? Snakes do not produce poison. Holy hell.



I suggest you try reading and not judging; that is not what they said.

As for experts, I was talking about you as well "I'm right, you're wrong"; the attitude that described the world as flat for so many centuries.

Go back and read any medical journal about peanuts published prior to this year; they all say dont feed them to children, all the 2018 editions will all say something different..

"Lard is bad for you, cook with vegetable oil"; well it turns out vegetable oil produces carcinogens when heated, lard doesnt, so lard is actually safer.

I could go on, just from personal experience, for several pages of ignored facts, dismissed findings, and blindly following the perceived wisdom; followed by the cover up and the "of course we knew that all along", while carefully erasing their prior advice from the records.
Gentle_Giant1 h, 22 m ago

I suggest you try reading and not judging; that is not what they said.As …I suggest you try reading and not judging; that is not what they said.As for experts, I was talking about you as well "I'm right, you're wrong"; the attitude that described the world as flat for so many centuries.Go back and read any medical journal about peanuts published prior to this year; they all say dont feed them to children, all the 2018 editions will all say something different.."Lard is bad for you, cook with vegetable oil"; well it turns out vegetable oil produces carcinogens when heated, lard doesnt, so lard is actually safer.I could go on, just from personal experience, for several pages of ignored facts, dismissed findings, and blindly following the perceived wisdom; followed by the cover up and the "of course we knew that all along", while carefully erasing their prior advice from the records.


They did say that. The person said "Snake poison is good for you...(then some nonsense about doses)".

So which part did I get wrong? The snake or the poison?

Now snakes do not produce poison so get your head out of your ass and stop trying to find an ally to win an online argument.

The world was very rarely described as flat. We actually knew it was a globe for a long time. It is just a common modern meme we like to trot out to bash the Church but much prevailing philosophical, mathematical and theological thought considered the world spherical, even before Christ.

Any other hyperbolic statements you want to toss out there to try and cement your crumbling integrity?
Edited by: "stevenfeeney" 21st Dec 2017
stevenfeeney14 m ago

They did say that. The person said "Snake poison is good for you...(then …They did say that. The person said "Snake poison is good for you...(then some nonsense about doses)".So which part did I get wrong? The snake or the poison?Now snakes do not produce poison so get your head out of your ass and stop trying to find an ally to win an online argument.The world was very rarely described as flat. We actually knew it was a globe for a long time. It is just a common modern meme we like to trot out to bash the Church but much prevailing philosophical, mathematical and theological thought considered the world spherical, even before Christ.Any other hyperbolic statements you want to toss out there to try and cement your crumbling integrity?



You seem to have your head stuck up your rectum, so I wont bother trying to explain all your errors.
Gentle_Giant40 m ago

You seem to have your head stuck up your rectum, so I wont bother trying …You seem to have your head stuck up your rectum, so I wont bother trying to explain all your errors.


Really doubling down huh? Let me translate your post.

I have no reply.

See, that was a lot easier to type. You should have went with that.
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