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The Karate Kid (1984) forget the hype this was and always will be the best £3.49 del @ argos (reduced!)
The Karate Kid (1984) forget the hype this was and always will be the best £3.49 del @ argos (reduced!)

The Karate Kid (1984) forget the hype this was and always will be the best £3.49 del @ argos (reduced!)

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I hate remakes! and after being reminded of the epic classic which is being re relesed, I thought I would bring back some memorys by watching the classics!!

Make sure your kids watch this one first!!

A fatherless teenager faces his moment of truth in THE KARATE KID. Daniel (Ralph Macchio) arrives in Los Angeles from the east coast and faces the difficult task of making new friends. However, he becomes the object of bullying by the Cobras, a menacing gang of karate students, when he strikes up a relationship with Ali (Elisabeth Shue), the Cobra leader's ex-girlfriend . Eager to fight back and impress his new girlfriend, but afraid to confront the dangerous gang, Daniel asks his handyman Miyagi (Noriyuki "Pat" Morita), whom he learns is a master of the martial art, to teach him karate. Miyagi teaches Daniel that karate is a mastery is always the last answer to a problem. Under Miyagi's guidance, Daniel develops not only physical skills but also the faith and self-confidence to compete despite tremendous odds as he encounters the fight of his life in the exciting finale to this entertaining film.

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Classic movie, cheaper here though.

have you seen the new film yet?

steve81

Classic movie, cheaper here though.



+1 - sorry cold...

The new Karate Kid film is light-years ahead of the original. If only because the fight choreography is of a much higher standard as are ALL of the characters who have to use, or at least look like they can use, Kung fu. Also Jaden has so far proven to be a better actor than Ralph Macchio and Chan gets, what may be seen as a a rare chance to show off his acting skills in a Hollywood movie, as opposed to that seen in some of his Chinese films; Shinjuku Incident for example.

There are also much better and deeper ideas & themes around the violence of the antagonists and adult responsibility to educate and listen to the young; as well as respect for elders of course. Setting the film in China also allows for an expanded "fish out of water" theme and we get some good examples of what those of us who have studied Kung Fu hear every week: Kung Fu essentially means effort and time and we get several parallel "kung fu" stories, the effort and time taken to settle and fit into life in a different culture, to learn a language, to become a skilled violinist and in Chan's character's case, simply to find a reason to exist.

Nostalgia aside there's not a single thing in the original film that isn't equalled or bettered in this version. Sure "Wax on, Wax off is a classic" and we all love Mr. Miyagi, but there's more meaning put into the "jacket on, Jacket off" idea and it provides more "practical" use for Smith's Character in both mental and physical training.

Maybe it helps that I was a fan & student of various martial arts when I saw the original Karate Kid and hence, whilst finding it fun, was never satisfied with the physical elements of the film, but I have no problem whatsoever stating that this version is superior and I'm grateful for the hard work Smith gets put through as my 2 daughters have complained considerably less about the training I put them through before school for their own Kung Fu lessons! No upside down sit ups for them! (Not until next year anyway.)

Plagiarism, if you can't beat it then copy it!



garbage456

well maybe do an original script instead of copying an old one




It isn't copied and the producer, Jerry Weintraub, produced the original set of films as well so he isn't doing anything except continuing his own work. The concept was hardly original even then but it was done in a fresh and, reasonably, interesting way. Same here, a traditional film, dating back centuries, is given a fresh and interesting treatment. Changing the artial art in question to a more dynamic and "spiritual" one, although there are many forms of Kung Fu & a little Karate on show here, and again moving the film to the home of Kung Fu. (technically also the home of Karate as Karate was based on Kung Fu (long fist mostly I believe).

There are times when you wonder why something has been remade at all or even why the title is kept when so little remains of the alledged source material. This isn't one of those times. The guy owns Karate Kid because he "made" it in the first place and instead of a quick & cheap cash in to try and wring some final dollars out of a long dead series he's made an effort to do something new and fresh with his property and succeeded in not only equaling the original dramaticaly but bettering it dramatically AND blowing the original off the face of the planet with the action and the setting. This will be the first Karate Kid that i choose to own and I know which one I'd rather my kids watched. They learn a lot more from this movie, and I don't just mean forms. (although they had fun picking out stances they know!)

I mean a traditional story dating back centuries, not film.

Come on, the remake is bound to be hated by anyone who has an affection for the original...I personally have no interest in the remake! The sheer lack of original ideas in Hollywood is staggering, I hope it bombs...but it won't 'cos Will Smith is solid gold!

...why call it Karate Kid when he does Kung Fu in it, it might have grated a little less with peeps had it been given the title 'Kung Fu Kid'!!!

No it isn't bound to be hated by anyone with affection for the original, I get that some people feel that way, but plenty of others will wait to see a film before stating whether it’s better than the original or not. I didn't love the original but I certainly didn't hate it and its flaws are dealt with by this film. I didn't hate Clash of the Titans (2010) because of my fondness for the original, I hated it because it was rubbish, poorly written and whatever diversion may have been created by the action & effects was killed at birth by the pathetic, lame, 6 week rush job, 3D conversion. But I know plenty of people who liked the original and were very much looking forward to the remake. It's a particular type of person, generally, who wants nothing to do with newer versions of old films, not everyone.

It is already a massive hit, it's made over $170m in America already and is doing well "internationally", however that has more to do with the fact that the film looked good, and IS good, as well as Jackie Chan, whose films have always done pretty well outside of "the West" (America in particular, and who brings an audience there, in the right films.)

That the film doesn't interest you is of course entirely down to your personal taste, but I can assure you that this is both a superior showcase for the martial arts AND a better drama.

The Kung Fu Kid thing bothered me from day one, and there was a line inserted where the antagonist dubs Dre, The Karate Kid, both as an insult to his feeble attempts to use minimal Karate skills to defend himself and, it seemed, as a reference to the original film. However that line wasn't in the preview I saw last month. However you do see him trying to use Karate and, mirroring the Karate book in the first film, using TV lessons to learn Karate. That and his mother's saying Karate when he's referring to Kung Fu gives the film's title sense. (Of a sort)


Will Smith is not in this film so there's little reason for anyone to see it because they like him. Jaden however turned in an excellent performance in The Pursuit of Happyness and walked away from the dire "The Day The Earth Stood Still with credibility intact", but people will see this film, as usual, based on whether or not it looks entertaining. An appealing pair of stars who seem well suited to their roles and to have good chemistry doesn't hurt though.

Finally there never has and never will be much "originality" in Hollywood. Adaptations of plays and novels, remakes and redos have been around since pretty much the dawn of Hollywood and that will not change. When Karate Kid MkI came out it wasn't original and the critics said as much, they did however say the way that story was told was what made it worthwhile. The same is true here. The best movie versions of Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth A Christmas Carol wouldn't exist if stories could only be told once. Inception is seen as an "original" movie (it isn’t, not that that matters), but it's a heist movie, like Reservoir Dogs or Ocean's 11 or even Johny Memonic (to a lesser extent). The best known and most respected version of The Maltese Falcon is the Bogart one, but that was the THIRD version of that film (based on the book) in just 10 years! That was in this mythical time of Hollywood originality as well. Should the Spaghetti Western never really have taken flight because A Fistful of Dollars was a remake? Should Akira Kurosawa never have made 2 of the best films of all time, Ran & Throne of Blood, because so many others fillm King Lear and Macbeth had each had at least 10 filmed versions before he filmed them? Hayao Miyazaki, the most revered and respected animator of them all shouldn't have been allowed to film Ponyo because of the countless other versions of The Little Mermaid in existence?


I know I'm laying it on here but it bugs me, as a film nut, that people assume there was a time when Hollywood, or anyone else, (Communist government run agit props notwithstanding) , was making nothing but original movies with new concepts and storylines. It also needs to be remembered that not all remakes, or update, or new versions of books etc are going to be inferior or just plain bad; anymore than all "original" films are going to be good. To cut yourself off from a section of cinema just because you assume, incorrectly, that it cannot lead to a decent film seems a little silly to me. It is of course everyone's right to keep their own counsel on such things; I'm just trying to balance this out a bit. Especially as so many appear to be condemning a film they haven’t seen. S


I wrote about this for SyFy's website a few months ago. Here's a link, not spam a link for detail on this subject matter.


syfy.co.uk/blo…sam
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