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The Killers have announced that they will hold a live-stream performance and Q&A on Instagram next weekend.
The Vegas band will connect with fans on the social media platform on April 18 at 12pm PST (8pm BST).
"Attention self incarcerated humans of earth,” they wrote on Twitter, “Time to get wild! Watch and listen on your favourite hand held device as we answer your questions and play a few of our songs for YOU, LIVE ON INSTAGRAM!”
The group also requested that fans reply to the tweet with their questions twitter.com/the…285
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Wonder if the UK tour will be cancelled / resceduled.
Don’t think it’s been released officially yet iv had no info on it
Hoping dates for rescheduled shows will be announced soon. Heat anyway OP. Cheers.
wazzap014/04/2020 19:38

Don’t think it’s been released officially yet iv had no info on it


We've got tickets and haven't heard anything either.
Might aswell call them Killed? Or Brandon Flowers + 1? Cos that's essentially what they are now. It'd be like The Beatles touring with 2 members!
Good find, thanks.

At the risk of getting torn apart, and just by way of a public service announcement for those who didn't realise, I'm just going to point out that while the show itself is free, you do need to pay for a TV licence to watch this (legally) as a live broadcast, even if you watch it on your phone / tablet.
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Bullfrog15/04/2020 01:44

Good find, thanks. At the risk of getting torn apart, and just by way of a …Good find, thanks. At the risk of getting torn apart, and just by way of a public service announcement for those who didn't realise, I'm just going to point out that while the show itself is free, you do need to pay for a TV licence to watch this (legally) as a live broadcast, even if you watch it on your phone / tablet.


This is untrue.
INSTAGRAM NOVICE: how can I get it on my big telly, please?
jeff33315/04/2020 09:07

INSTAGRAM NOVICE: how can I get it on my big telly, please?


If it's an Android Cast your device to your Chromecast Compatible TV.

Again if it's an Android device you Amy be able to connect it to your TV using a USB-C to HDMI cable/adaptor.

From a Windows 10 laptop you may be able to change the display setting to project it to a second screen.

Apple devices I'm not sure about but you may also have the option to cast if both your device and the TV are compatible.....
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paaaaul15/04/2020 05:34

This is untrue.


The avalanche has started,
it is too late for the pebbles to vote.

Heated!
Edited by: "greelyi" 18th Apr
Bullfrog15/04/2020 01:44

Good find, thanks. At the risk of getting torn apart, and just by way of a …Good find, thanks. At the risk of getting torn apart, and just by way of a public service announcement for those who didn't realise, I'm just going to point out that while the show itself is free, you do need to pay for a TV licence to watch this (legally) as a live broadcast, even if you watch it on your phone / tablet.


Do you actually believe this? I hope not.

The only live programming you have to have a TV licence for is for BBC channels. and non live iPlayer.
Edited by: "TangiblePear" 18th Apr
Their set from Glasto last year which seemed to be quite comprehensive....
Watching now and all I see is Liam Payne?! Where are The Killers?!
Me too.
TangiblePear18/04/2020 18:15

Do you actually believe this? I hope not.The only live programming you …Do you actually believe this? I hope not.The only live programming you have to have a TV licence for is for BBC channels. and non live iPlayer.


You need a TV Licence if you're watching or recording ANY Live Programme on ANY TV Channel - either on TV, Smart Device, Online plus watching or downloading anything on iPlayer.
On now. Looks like it will only be one song though?
crow9918/04/2020 20:24

On now. Looks like it will only be one song though?


Yeah. Maybe one or two more as they warm up behind the scenes as the night gets longer 🙈 It can only get better 🎶
_ThE_HUKD_CoOkIe_MoNsTeR_18/04/2020 20:22

You need a TV Licence if you're watching or recording ANY Live Programme …You need a TV Licence if you're watching or recording ANY Live Programme on ANY TV Channel - either on TV, Smart Device, Online plus watching or downloading anything on iPlayer.


Last I checked watching a live stream of the Killers is not a TV programme. Think you need to go and read the "TV" Licence terms again.
I wouldn't have thought the TV license thing applied to YouTube but technically it appears to. That's well rubbish.

The law says you need to be covered by a TV Licence to:

  • watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel
  • watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)
  • download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer.
This applies to any device you use, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console, digital box or DVD/VHS recorder.

Source: tvlicensing.co.uk/che…one
TangiblePear18/04/2020 20:44

Last I checked watching a live stream of the Killers is not a TV …Last I checked watching a live stream of the Killers is not a TV programme. Think you need to go and read the "TV" Licence terms again.


Read my post VERY carefully. It would appear you completely misunderstood it.
_ThE_HUKD_CoOkIe_MoNsTeR_18/04/2020 20:54

Read my post VERY carefully. It would appear you completely misunderstood …Read my post VERY carefully. It would appear you completely misunderstood it.


No it would appear you completely misunderstood if you think you need a TV Licence to watch this.
TangiblePear18/04/2020 21:03

No it would appear you completely misunderstood if you think you need a TV …No it would appear you completely misunderstood if you think you need a TV Licence to watch this.


Show me EXACTLY where I said you need a TV Licence to watch this. I'll wait ....
TangiblePear18/04/2020 18:15

Do you actually believe this? I hope not.The only live programming you …Do you actually believe this? I hope not.The only live programming you have to have a TV licence for is for BBC channels. and non live iPlayer.


No, I'm sorry, but that's simply not true. You require a TV licence for all live broadcasts, regardless of platform, and regardless of the country they are broadcast from. This applies whether you're watching on a TV, a PC, or a mobile phone. It applies to traditional TV channels and to online TV services. An online TV service is defined as: "any streaming or smart TV service, website or app that lets you watch live TV over the internet. Popular services include BBC iPlayer, ITV Hub, Channel 4 Watch Live, All 4, Sky Go, Virgin Media, Now TV, BT TV, Apple TV, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube and Roku".
Further, "Online-only TV channels still count as live TV, so you need a TV Licence if you’re watching or recording their programmes."

I don't like it, and I hope the law changes, but that is the current situation.
Bullfrog18/04/2020 22:37

No, I'm sorry, but that's simply not true. You require a TV licence for …No, I'm sorry, but that's simply not true. You require a TV licence for all live broadcasts, regardless of platform, and regardless of the country they are broadcast from. This applies whether you're watching on a TV, a PC, or a mobile phone. It applies to traditional TV channels and to online TV services. An online TV service is defined as: "any streaming or smart TV service, website or app that lets you watch live TV over the internet. Popular services include BBC iPlayer, ITV Hub, Channel 4 Watch Live, All 4, Sky Go, Virgin Media, Now TV, BT TV, Apple TV, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube and Roku".Further, "Online-only TV channels still count as live TV, so you need a TV Licence if you’re watching or recording their programmes." I don't like it, and I hope the law changes, but that is the current situation.


A Live stream of a concert DOES NOT fall under your TV Licence, stop telling yourself that.
TangiblePear18/04/2020 22:40

A Live stream of a concert DOES NOT fall under your TV Licence, stop …A Live stream of a concert DOES NOT fall under your TV Licence, stop telling yourself that.


The below is from the official website:


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I wasn’t sure either way about this debate, so I checked, and above is my research. It’s upsetting news for everyone, perhaps moreso if you’ve been arguing about it.
Edited by: "Mr.Nutts" 18th Apr
Mr.Nutts18/04/2020 22:54

Have you even looked into this?The below is from the official …Have you even looked into this?The below is from the official website:[Image] I wasn’t sure either way about this debate, so I checked, and above is my research. It’s upsetting news for everyone, perhaps moreso if you’ve been arguing about it.


A Live concert IS NOT an online TV service, my god. Learn to read.

Youtube is only included if you use it to watch LIVE TV.
Edited by: "TangiblePear" 18th Apr
TangiblePear18/04/2020 23:01

A Live concert IS NOT an online TV service, my god. Learn to read.Youtube …A Live concert IS NOT an online TV service, my god. Learn to read.Youtube is only inlclded if you use it to watch LIVE TV.



In summary:
Any programme, including music, including YouTube.

In full:
Live TV means ANYprogramme you watch or record as it’s being shown on TV or live on an online TV service.
It’s not just live events like sport, news and music. It also covers soaps, series, documentaries and even movies.
An online TV service is any streaming or smart TV service, website or app that lets you watch live TV over the internet. This includes services like All 4, Sky Go, Virgin Media, Now TV, BT TV, YOUTUBE, Amazon Prime Video and ITV Hub.
Edited by: "Mr.Nutts" 18th Apr
Mr.Nutts18/04/2020 23:02

In summary:Any programme, including music, including YouTube. In full:Live …In summary:Any programme, including music, including YouTube. In full:Live TV means ANY programme you watch or record as it’s being shown on TV or live on an online TV service.It’s not just live events like sport, news and music. It also covers soaps, series, documentaries and even movies.An online TV service is any streaming or smart TV service, website or app that lets you watch live TV over the internet. This includes services like All 4, Sky Go, Virgin Media, Now TV, BT TV, YOUTUBE, Amazon Prime Video and ITV Hub.



LIVE TV is only included in your licence online when it is anything that is broadcast live on services such as Youtube at the same time it is also broadcast on a TV channel.

Concerts that are not also being broadcast on TV are not included, as much as slow people here seem to think they are.
Edited by: "TangiblePear" 18th Apr
My interpretation, although it goes against my initial thoughts, is that you need a license for it.

The confusion comes from the word “programme”. This isn’t a programme. But YouTube falls under online TV service that, if live, you’d need a license for.

The difficult being, this isn’t Glastonbury, being shown like it has been, it’s just a one-off. If it was a Facebook page, you wouldn’t need one, but, it’s YouTube, so it’s a tough call.
TangiblePear18/04/2020 23:08

LIVE TV is only included in your licence online when it is anything that …LIVE TV is only included in your licence online when it is anything that is broadcast live on services such as Youtube at the same time it is also broadcast on a TV channel.Concerts that are not also being broadcast on TV are not included, as much as slow people here seem to think they are.


That makes sense, but I couldn’t find that information on the TV licensing website. It just states that YouTube is an online TV service and Live stuff requires a license. I didn’t see it mention anything about that programme also needing to be aired elsewhere to necessitate a license.
TangiblePear18/04/2020 22:40

A Live stream of a concert DOES NOT fall under your TV Licence, stop …A Live stream of a concert DOES NOT fall under your TV Licence, stop telling yourself that.


I'm not telling myself that. I'm telling you that that's what the law says.

I spent 13 years reading acts of Parliament and I'm very comfortable with them. The relevant legislation here is the Communications Act 2003 and The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004. Part 3, 9(2), of the latter act defines a television programme: "In this regulation, any reference to receiving a television programme service includes a reference to receiving by any means any programme included in that service, where that programme is received at the same time (or virtually the same time) as it is received by members of the public by virtue of its being broadcast or distributed as part of that service."

In short, if you are watching a live stream, like this concert, at the same time that other people are also watching it via the same broadcast, you require a TV licence. That's the law, and that's all there is to it. By all means feel free to ignore me but, in my experience, courts apply the maxim "ignorance of the law is no excuse" rather vigorously.

If you feel that I have misinterpreted the legislation, feel free to specify the parts which support your opinion.
Mr.Nutts18/04/2020 23:13

That makes sense, but I couldn’t find that information on the TV licensing …That makes sense, but I couldn’t find that information on the TV licensing website. It just states that YouTube is an online TV service and Live stuff requires a license. I didn’t see it mention anything about that programme also needing to be aired elsewhere to necessitate a license.


YouTube is only included when watching LIVE TV or TV Programmes.

Also this concert is not even on YouTube it is on Instagram.
Bullfrog18/04/2020 23:14

I'm not telling myself that. I'm telling you that that's what the law …I'm not telling myself that. I'm telling you that that's what the law says. I spent 13 years reading acts of Parliament and I'm very comfortable with them. The relevant legislation here is the Communications Act 2003 and The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004. Part 3, 9(2), of the latter act defines a television programme: "In this regulation, any reference to receiving a television programme service includes a reference to receiving by any means any programme included in that service, where that programme is received at the same time (or virtually the same time) as it is received by members of the public by virtue of its being broadcast or distributed as part of that service."In short, if you are watching a live stream, like this concert, at the same time that other people are also watching it via the same broadcast, you require a TV licence. That's the law, and that's all there is to it. By all means feel free to ignore me but, in my experience, courts apply the maxim "ignorance of the law is no excuse" rather vigorously.If you feel that I have misinterpreted the legislation, feel free to specify the parts which support your opinion.


This is not a TV Programme so NONE of that applies. Once again slow people..

tvlicensing.co.uk/cs/…664

Online TV service

An online TV service is where TV programmes or films are being shown, usually at scheduled times, over the internet as opposed to via an aerial, cable or a satellite TV service. Examples include BBC iPlayer, ITV Hub, All 4 and My5.

Streaming (or Video streaming)

Streaming means watching TV, videos, programmes or films over the internet. The video you watch is typically not stored on your device for viewing later, but some services will allow you to access it over a period of time, e.g. within 24 hours. Examples include YouTube, Now TV and Netflix

Is a TV Licence needed?

Live video streaming
Yes, if live video streaming live TV

All of this coming directly from the TV Licence official website.
Edited by: "TangiblePear" 18th Apr
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