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The sub torp. Heineken and strongbow - £5.99 eac + £4.95 Delivery @ Beerwulf

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Posted 10th Aug 2019

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I'm typing this on a small phone, so if the formatting isn't right, or if it seems disjointed, please bear with me. I bought the Sub recently (not the compact after hearing about problems with it). I'm now on my 3rd Torp of a variety of 8.
I'm happy with it. I don't drink in pubs anymore, but I enjoy a beer.
Shortly after turning 40 I realised that although I like drinking, I hate being drunk. Plus the hangovers rarely make overindulgence worthwhile.
Nowadays I have 1, maybe 2 bottles of beer a night. Rarely more than that. That's about £1.50 - 3, with a volume of 330ml (small bottle) to. 1l, two large bottles. Or around £6 for two litres. This is a similar price to the torps when they're on offer, I believe.

So for me, it comes down to choice of beer, and taste.
The choice of Torps isn't great, especially if you're only purchasing them when on offer. Compared to bottled beers, the choice is minuscule, but luckily for me, they have lagers that I like. Unfortunately not the craft beers I like, but many of the 'council' lagers.
So, taste. The taste is good to my uneducated, unsophisticated palate. Compared to cans, the torps are streets ahead. None of that metallic taste. Compared to bottles? On a par. Compared to draught? On a par, maybe slightly more carbonated, which for me isn't a bad thing. The carbonation is on par with bottles.
Comparing the torps to the 5l kegs (£10-15/keg), I'd go for a torp. There's zero wastage in the torp, and due to construction, air doesn't touch the beer until it's poured. I find the last pint or two in the 5l kegs is a bit 'meh'. Never mind the metallic taste, or tipping the keg for the last few drops of nectar.

My personal conclusion:
Is the Sub and are the torps worth the money?
Yes, for me the price when the torps are on offer is similar to bottles. Taste blows cans out of the water, and is equal to bottles or draught.

Given the chance to use the HUKD Time Machine (as used by all top HUKD'ers, "Well I bought XXXX for £10 cheaper 3 years ago, so for me it's not a deal" ) to go back and not buy the Sub, would I do so?
No, I don't think I would. The only downside for me is the initial outlay on the Sub. I drink beer, so as long as I can keep buying torps at a similar price to bottles, then it's not going to be wasted money.
If I open a 500ml bottle, and don't really want that much beer, the rest is wasted, or I drink more than I wanted to. This system I can pour any size of beer, up to 2l, with no wastage, and the torp lasts 28 days iirc. Not that it's going to last that long, but it could.

Do bottles chill faster? Maybe in the freezer yes, but having put beer in the freezer, and forgotten about it, that's not an option I make use of.
Overall, the speed to chill either a bottle, or a torp isn't a problem. I put a torp in the fridge. It chills down, I move it to the Sub, putting another torp in the fridge. By the time I finish the first torp, the second is chilled. If I need alcohol desperately quickly, I'll have a whisky, or knock up a margerita or mojito. The "Rule of P's applies". "Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Poor Performance." (There's another 'p' missing from that rule, but the humourless mods get upset when faced with real world language.)

It comes down to choice. I hummed and hawed for over a year about getting into the Sub/ torps, before I took the plunge. It works for me, but that doesn't mean it'll work for you. Then again, I'll bet that there are life and lifestyle choices that you make, that I'd view as a waste of time and/ or money.

So, its the convenience for me. A 2l torp has a smaller footprint in the fridge than the equivalent 4-6 bottles. It's the same size as a bottle of pop. It's also less space in the bin, and lighter than bottles.

Ultimately, it's your decision on what you spend your money on. I'm just supplying a few reasons why I am happy with the purchase. YMMV.
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These things even on offer work out over £2 a pint and are too small .
What's a sub and what's a torp?
yozzman123410/08/2019 13:17

These things even on offer work out over £2 a pint and are too small .


This works out £1.70 a pint
djdelmar10/08/2019 13:21

What's a sub and what's a torp?


It's a machine that pours cold pints at home and the torp is the bottle with the beer in that goes in.
CHeaney2710/08/2019 13:21

This works out £1.70 a pint


Not with delivery on top .
Proper beer drinkers only drink real ale - not mass-produced fizzy alco-rubbish which is typically brewed in just 4 weeks from start to finish!

Heineken is just the alcopop equivalent for the Millennial generation
CHeaney2710/08/2019 13:25

Buy 8 and delivery is free


Too expensive.
Plus machine cost to buy and run .
Plus need to keep torps in the fridge or machines can't cool these down or take forever to get cold .
Then barely get 3 an half pints out of a torp .
Would rather get deals on bottles which go ice cold in 30 minutes in the freezer .
Each to there own though
cb-uk10/08/2019 13:30

Proper beer drinkers only drink real ale - not mass-produced fizzy …Proper beer drinkers only drink real ale - not mass-produced fizzy alco-rubbish which is typically brewed in just 4 weeks from start to finish! Heineken is just the alcopop equivalent for the Millennial generation



You seem to have had a few already.
cb-uk10/08/2019 13:30

Proper beer drinkers only drink real ale - not mass-produced fizzy …Proper beer drinkers only drink real ale - not mass-produced fizzy alco-rubbish which is typically brewed in just 4 weeks from start to finish! Heineken is just the alcopop equivalent for the Millennial generation


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I'm typing this on a small phone, so if the formatting isn't right, or if it seems disjointed, please bear with me. I bought the Sub recently (not the compact after hearing about problems with it). I'm now on my 3rd Torp of a variety of 8.
I'm happy with it. I don't drink in pubs anymore, but I enjoy a beer.
Shortly after turning 40 I realised that although I like drinking, I hate being drunk. Plus the hangovers rarely make overindulgence worthwhile.
Nowadays I have 1, maybe 2 bottles of beer a night. Rarely more than that. That's about £1.50 - 3, with a volume of 330ml (small bottle) to. 1l, two large bottles. Or around £6 for two litres. This is a similar price to the torps when they're on offer, I believe.

So for me, it comes down to choice of beer, and taste.
The choice of Torps isn't great, especially if you're only purchasing them when on offer. Compared to bottled beers, the choice is minuscule, but luckily for me, they have lagers that I like. Unfortunately not the craft beers I like, but many of the 'council' lagers.
So, taste. The taste is good to my uneducated, unsophisticated palate. Compared to cans, the torps are streets ahead. None of that metallic taste. Compared to bottles? On a par. Compared to draught? On a par, maybe slightly more carbonated, which for me isn't a bad thing. The carbonation is on par with bottles.
Comparing the torps to the 5l kegs (£10-15/keg), I'd go for a torp. There's zero wastage in the torp, and due to construction, air doesn't touch the beer until it's poured. I find the last pint or two in the 5l kegs is a bit 'meh'. Never mind the metallic taste, or tipping the keg for the last few drops of nectar.

My personal conclusion:
Is the Sub and are the torps worth the money?
Yes, for me the price when the torps are on offer is similar to bottles. Taste blows cans out of the water, and is equal to bottles or draught.

Given the chance to use the HUKD Time Machine (as used by all top HUKD'ers, "Well I bought XXXX for £10 cheaper 3 years ago, so for me it's not a deal" ) to go back and not buy the Sub, would I do so?
No, I don't think I would. The only downside for me is the initial outlay on the Sub. I drink beer, so as long as I can keep buying torps at a similar price to bottles, then it's not going to be wasted money.
Taste blows cans out of the water, and is equal to bottles or draught....

So what's the point?

Just buy bottles, like above they chill faster too.
If I open a 500ml bottle, and don't really want that much beer, the rest is wasted, or I drink more than I wanted to. This system I can pour any size of beer, up to 2l, with no wastage, and the torp lasts 28 days iirc. Not that it's going to last that long, but it could.

Do bottles chill faster? Maybe in the freezer yes, but having put beer in the freezer, and forgotten about it, that's not an option I make use of.
Overall, the speed to chill either a bottle, or a torp isn't a problem. I put a torp in the fridge. It chills down, I move it to the Sub, putting another torp in the fridge. By the time I finish the first torp, the second is chilled. If I need alcohol desperately quickly, I'll have a whisky, or knock up a margerita or mojito. The "Rule of P's applies". "Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Poor Performance." (There's another 'p' missing from that rule, but the humourless mods get upset when faced with real world language.)

It comes down to choice. I hummed and hawed for over a year about getting into the Sub/ torps, before I took the plunge. It works for me, but that doesn't mean it'll work for you. Then again, I'll bet that there are life and lifestyle choices that you make, that I'd view as a waste of time and/ or money.

So, its the convenience for me. A 2l torp has a smaller footprint in the fridge than the equivalent 4-6 bottles. It's the same size as a bottle of pop. It's also less space in the bin, and lighter than bottles.

Ultimately, it's your decision on what you spend your money on. I'm just supplying a few reasons why I am happy with the purchase. YMMV.
Purchased 8 torps from beerwulf near end of July 2019, when I received sell by date was September 2019, used 1 of the 8 today it was flat as a pancake and tasteless, not impressed.
Chella110/08/2019 23:56

Purchased 8 torps from beerwulf near end of July 2019, when I received …Purchased 8 torps from beerwulf near end of July 2019, when I received sell by date was September 2019, used 1 of the 8 today it was flat as a pancake and tasteless, not impressed.


Are you going to complain?

Was it your first ever Torp? Have you tried another?
I've got a Sep 19 Heineken Torp I received with the others. Only 1. I'll load it up next, and see how that tastes. The others have been good, but I hadn't checked the dates on them. The remaining few are all Nov onwards. Various flavours, I only got the one Heineken
I've lodged a complaint, I've used torps in the past when bought through the sub uk and never had an issue, this was my first purchase via beerwulf and probably my last.
Is there anywhere else that sells the torps apart from beerwulf?
This system is very nice if you want a small glass of lager/beer for each of your 8 friends to have 1 each or 4 friends to have 1.75 each... It's tasty and cold but it's also expensive, noisy and labour intensive for supplying beer. I enjoy the stuff it pours but ultimately, it's the equivalent of a novelty party trick that wears thin very quickly... The torps are ridiculous in price too. Its no different to the desk top "beer" fridge that only holds 4 cans... At a push... And takes all day to chill them. Its not a drinkers tool or a party piece. Don't get it because you'll eventually regret it.
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