Tomme Tippee Perfect prep machine £25 @ Tesco instore
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Tomme Tippee Perfect prep machine £25 @ Tesco instore

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LocalFound 22nd Sep 2015
Hopefully it's a nationwide deal.
It's better to keep your eyes open when you do your normal shopping at Tesco.
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Supermod
Nice! Do you have the barcode please? Hopefully others can get this too. Was it priced up at £25 or another price? Thanks
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magicjay1986

Nice! Do you have the barcode please? Hopefully others can get this too. … Nice! Do you have the barcode please? Hopefully others can get this too. Was it priced up at £25 or another price? Thanks


It had a reduced to clear label with £50 on it but scanned for £25.:)
I haven't got the barcode as I bought it for my mate and I already dropped it for her. But I try to ask it from her.
looks like you have hit upon a store clearing their baby stock cos it's £99 online
Supermod
szippancs

It had a reduced to clear label with £50 on it but scanned for £25.:)I h … It had a reduced to clear label with £50 on it but scanned for £25.:)I haven't got the barcode as I bought it for my mate and I already dropped it for her. But I try to ask it from her.



Thanks You've got an amazing bargain there. Paid £45 for mine and its worth every penny of that.
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Which store??
Hi, which store did you purchase it from. I'm going to try in Manchester tomorrow
Not recommended as they are not proven safe.
which store please?

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Satele

Not recommended as they are not proven safe.



In what way??
chrisf74

CommentIn what way??

There perfectly safe!!! had mine 2 years & no issues or illness, midwives & health visitors dont like them because they prefer you to breastfeed!!!
Satele

Not recommended as they are not proven safe.



​what a loadvof tosh. they are perfectly safe as they would not be allowed on sale within the eu. not preferred to breast feeding within the medical profession.
an absolute god send at 0200 in the morning if possible i would advise any new parent to get one.
you got an absolute bargain well done. now if i could get another at this price would be awesome.
have some heat OP


Satele

Not recommended as they are not proven safe.

Satele

Not recommended as they are not proven safe.



I read a report that said they weren't sure if they're safe or not yet, so for that reason they aren't recommended. It's something to do with the fact they don't use bolling water, they just release that hot "shot" of steam? They don't know if that's enough to get rid of all the bacteria.

That said, they're so popular - my friend swears by hers - surely if there was any risk it would have been reported by now? I just don't think the nhs or whoever have done the tests to confirm.
Supermod
stephxyz

I read a report that said they weren't sure if they're safe or not yet, … I read a report that said they weren't sure if they're safe or not yet, so for that reason they aren't recommended. It's something to do with the fact they don't use bolling water, they just release that hot "shot" of steam? They don't know if that's enough to get rid of all the bacteria. That said, they're so popular - my friend swears by hers - surely if there was any risk it would have been reported by now? I just don't think the nhs or whoever have done the tests to confirm.



Judging by how many units have been sold, i'm pretty sure if there really was such a serious and fundamental problem with the Perfect Prep they wouldn't be selling it any longer.
Absolute bargain! I have one and I wouldn't be without it, especially at 3am lol.
Banned
They are perfectly safe - refer to their website before making comments without an explanation
It is not a hot shot of steam, it is a hot shot of water at 70 degrees centigrade, the temperature required to kill the bacteria. The powder is dissolved in this to kill the bacteria, and then the remaining water added is a cooler temperature to ensure the finished bottle is at a much cooler temperature that is suitable for baby to drink.
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It was in Reading west but that was the only one on the shelf.

The lindam safety gate had a yellow sticker on (so it is store specific) that's why I didn't want to mention it (I saw they did on facebook...)
chrisf74

CommentIn what way??



See below.

charlottelayton22

There perfectly safe!!! had mine 2 years & no issues or illness, midwayes … There perfectly safe!!! had mine 2 years & no issues or illness, midwayes & health visitors dont like them because they prefer you to breastfeed!!!



You say that like it's a bad thing? Of course, breastfeeding is the better method, but where it can't be done, this is not a safe way to make formula.

bowie87

​what a loadvof tosh. they are perfectly safe as they would not be a … ​what a loadvof tosh. they are perfectly safe as they would not be allowed on sale within the eu. not preferred to breast feeding within the medical profession. an absolute god send at 0200 in the morning if possible i would advise any new parent to get one. you got an absolute bargain well done. now if i could get another at this price would be awesome. have some heat OP



No, it's not a load of tosh. I recommend you read the research and commentary from the Food Standards Agency and Department of Health. It's worth noting that the claims by the manufacturer are based on studies and tests which they have refused to release into the public domain. Since you like to deduce things, perhaps try deducing what to make of that?

Furthermore, the fact that so many people attest to the convenience of these leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Given that you still have to sterilise all equipment before each feed, and accurately measure powdered formula, I'm not clear on how exactly they are so much more convenient?

magicjay1986

Judging by how many units have been sold, i'm pretty sure if there really … Judging by how many units have been sold, i'm pretty sure if there really was such a serious and fundamental problem with the Perfect Prep they wouldn't be selling it any longer.



They're popular because they feed on human desire to be lazy and take shortcuts. This does not make the product safe, nor does the fact that it is available for sale make it safe. Plenty of things have been sold for decades before learning how unsafe they turn out to be years later.

duckmuffin

It is not a hot shot of steam, it is a hot shot of water at 70 degrees … It is not a hot shot of steam, it is a hot shot of water at 70 degrees centigrade, the temperature required to kill the bacteria. The powder is dissolved in this to kill the bacteria, and then the remaining water added is a cooler temperature to ensure the finished bottle is at a much cooler temperature that is suitable for baby to drink.



Yes, they use a hot shot of water. A very small hot shot that is quickly cooled when mixed with the formula, due to the small volume and in testing it was shown that bacteria remained in the feed afterwards. The fact remains it's yet to be demonstrated that these are safe to use. Perhaps do some research?

kaym88

They are perfectly safe - refer to their website before making comments … They are perfectly safe - refer to their website before making comments without an explanation



Did you honestly just attempt to use the company website as evidence of their safety? Independent testing has confirmed that the safety of these machines is in doubt.
Supermod
@Satele - do you have a link to where they've been absolutely proven unsafe? From the above exchange, for now it seems just a matter of opinion/speculation.

FWIW....our midwife couldn't speak highly enough of this machine and said she wished she had it for her first 2 children.
magicjay1986

@Satele - do you have a link to where they've been absolutely proven … @Satele - do you have a link to where they've been absolutely proven unsafe? From the above exchange, for now it seems just a matter of opinion/speculation. FWIW....our midwife couldn't speak highly enough of this machine and said she wished she had it for her first 2 children.



First Steps Nutrition give a good summary of the evidence. firststepsnutrition.org/pdf…pdf

Note that I said 'not proven safe'. Nothing in science and medicine is 'absolute', but it is certainly clear that the product does not live up to it's claim of destroying all traces of bacteria from prepared milk.
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Satele

First Steps Nutrition give a good summary of the evidence. … First Steps Nutrition give a good summary of the evidence. http://www.firststepsnutrition.org/pdfs/Statement_on_making_up_formula%20safely_Mar_2015_final.pdfNote that I said 'not proven safe'. Nothing in science and medicine is 'absolute', but it is certainly clear that the product does not live up to it's claim of destroying all traces of bacteria from prepared milk.


Then put previously boiled water in to the machine. Problem solved.:)
Just checked Leics - still full price. Don't bother its not nationwide.
We were warned not to use this product due to the extremely small chance that the warming process does not kill off certain bacteria completely in the powder.

The reason why the NHS doesn't recommend it is because I don't think the machine reaches boiling point. If you boil the water first and then use it then I guess its fine - however this defeats the purpose of it being hassle free...

We were also told of the water sitting in the pipes of the machine being a small danger.

Our midwife convinced us to return the product as unsafe to use.

However, we have since found out loads of people use the machine - we felt we were scared off from using it at the time.
Edited by: "Vistrix" 23rd Sep 2015
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rrana19811

Just checked Leics - still full price. Don't bother its not nationwide.


Sorry to hear that. Did you scan it?
having had this argument before with people who just don't like this machine, I really can't be bothered getting into it in detail again... however I will point out that the hotshot of water is a minimum of 70 degrees and having tested it personally it's more like 80. Ignore the idiots that like to slay these off whenever anyone posts about them (they normally turn out to be the ones who don't follow the guidelines when making up bottles anyway!)
I would always recommend this machine to anyone that's going to bottle feed
This machine is amazing speaking as a dad.

Used it for my wee one, she's now 14 months and no issues at all. As long as you replace the filter inside when needed that also purifies the water.

Would recommend this to anyone, honestly believe anyone trying to say otherwise is scaremongering and should focus their energy on something else as this is perfectly safe for babies & toddlers.
kerrydavis1

having had this argument before with people who just don't like this … having had this argument before with people who just don't like this machine, I really can't be bothered getting into it in detail again... however I will point out that the hotshot of water is a minimum of 70 degrees and having tested it personally it's more like 80. Ignore the idiots that like to slay these off whenever anyone posts about them (they normally turn out to be the ones who don't follow the guidelines when making up bottles anyway!) I would always recommend this machine to anyone that's going to bottle feed



drunk1

This machine is amazing speaking as a dad. Used it for my wee one, she's … This machine is amazing speaking as a dad. Used it for my wee one, she's now 14 months and no issues at all. As long as you replace the filter inside when needed that also purifies the water. Would recommend this to anyone, honestly believe anyone trying to say otherwise is scaremongering and should focus their energy on something else as this is perfectly safe for babies & toddlers.



Ok, putting your insults aside, which part of the factual lab results that I posted did you not understand? It has nothing to do with the temperature (though it is 70, not 80; check the independent tests), it's the fact that only a small volume is utilised in the hot shot which very quickly cools before all bacteria are killed.

The irony in being called an idiot when it's clear neither of you have researched this. To say it is perfectly safe is well, perfectly laughable. Why blindly defend the indefensible?
I use pre boiled water for this machine. Of course i sterilize bottles a teats everytime, and change the filter when needed. On top of all hassle, the machine is still worth every cent.
magicjay1986

Nice! Do you have the barcode please? Hopefully others can get this too. … Nice! Do you have the barcode please? Hopefully others can get this too. Was it priced up at £25 or another price? Thanks



​why do you need a barcode? Thanks
still 99.99 in Longton, Hanley and Kidsgrove :-(
kerrydavis1

having had this argument before with people who just don't like this … having had this argument before with people who just don't like this machine, I really can't be bothered getting into it in detail again... however I will point out that the hotshot of water is a minimum of 70 degrees and having tested it personally it's more like 80. Ignore the idiots that like to slay these off whenever anyone posts about them (they normally turn out to be the ones who don't follow the guidelines when making up bottles anyway!) I would always recommend this machine to anyone that's going to bottle feed

drunk1

This machine is amazing speaking as a dad. Used it for my wee one, she's … This machine is amazing speaking as a dad. Used it for my wee one, she's now 14 months and no issues at all. As long as you replace the filter inside when needed that also purifies the water. Would recommend this to anyone, honestly believe anyone trying to say otherwise is scaremongering and should focus their energy on something else as this is perfectly safe for babies & toddlers.


if you want your kid to be "perfectly safe and proven so" keep them in an air-locked bubble all their life. I'm sure that would be fun.
my sis in law loves it. it does concern me however, that there has been so many offers on this at the moment. Why are they being cleared?
kerrydavis1

having had this argument before with people who just don't like this … having had this argument before with people who just don't like this machine, I really can't be bothered getting into it in detail again... however I will point out that the hotshot of water is a minimum of 70 degrees and having tested it personally it's more like 80. Ignore the idiots that like to slay these off whenever anyone posts about them (they normally turn out to be the ones who don't follow the guidelines when making up bottles anyway!) I would always recommend this machine to anyone that's going to bottle feed

drunk1

This machine is amazing speaking as a dad. Used it for my wee one, she's … This machine is amazing speaking as a dad. Used it for my wee one, she's now 14 months and no issues at all. As long as you replace the filter inside when needed that also purifies the water. Would recommend this to anyone, honestly believe anyone trying to say otherwise is scaremongering and should focus their energy on something else as this is perfectly safe for babies & toddlers.



YOU ARE A JOBS WORTH...
I know so many mums that still boil water let it fully cool and then add milk if anything this is more of a risk to a baby ok I've have this machine for my girl and I've tested the temp and is over 70c used it for a year and had no problems or never been ill from her formula!!! It's not about being lazy it's about given my child food quicker when hungry...
Will give it heat just for the price, however we recently looked at buying one of these for my newborn and after reading reviews and what it is(glorified kettle) we decided it was not worth the money
Read tommee tippees Facebook page the complaints are pretty bad. I breastfeed but I'm not a formula basher. Each to their own x
DEFINITELY NOT a national deal. (I'm staff, and I've checked our system's stock).
louloupop02

I know so many mums that still boil water let it fully cool and then add … I know so many mums that still boil water let it fully cool and then add milk if anything this is more of a risk to a baby ok I've have this machine for my girl and I've tested the temp and is over 70c used it for a year and had no problems or never been ill from her formula!!! It's not about being lazy it's about given my child food quicker when hungry...



Breastfeeding is instant.
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