Toro Loco ORGANIC Red Wine £4.99 @ Aldi
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Toro Loco ORGANIC Red Wine £4.99 @ Aldi

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Found 12th Nov
Good price for organic wine. You can also have it delivered if you take a case of 6 for £29.94

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Ok but what's it actually like?

Sid.Harper29 m ago

Ok but what's it actually like?


Good question

Does it still contain sulphites?

OB13 m ago

Does it still contain sulphites?

Yes. Disappointing!

OB14 m ago

Does it still contain sulphites?




Most wines do sadly. Question is, did they put the sulphites in there to mask poor quality ingredients or just to help preserve the freshness of the wine?

I don't trust foods labelled "organic"

I've had some reasonable wines from Toro Loco but this was not one of them.

Had some last time and didn't actually rate it as highly as normal Toro loco.

Love Toro loco, my favourite wine. Not very well up on wine but occasionally try more expensive ones in aldi and Sainsbury's but never find any as nice as Toro loco

BiGfactHunt25 m ago

I don't trust foods labelled "organic"


Organic is a meaningless word if you think about it, all food by definition is organic as it's organic matter. Also if you think about it before the 19th Century food was grown without using chemical pesticides. These are used to improve yield as a consequence of a Capitalist system. So for me organic as a word is meaningless as a system it has its merits, I've never liked the use of the word though.

fishmaster19 m ago

Organic is a meaningless word if you think about it, all food by …Organic is a meaningless word if you think about it, all food by definition is organic as it's organic matter. Also if you think about it before the 19th Century food was grown without using chemical pesticides. These are used to improve yield as a consequence of a Capitalist system. So for me organic as a word is meaningless as a system it has its merits, I've never liked the use of the word though.


"Organic" is marketing jargon used to charge more for a produce simple as that.

BiGfactHunt1 m ago

"Organic" is marketing jargon used to charge more for a produce simple as …"Organic" is marketing jargon used to charge more for a produce simple as that.


Simplicity has definite value, hopefully my minor exposition added some value to the conversation.

Original Poster

Also grapes are one of the fruits and veggies with the most pesticides so I prefer my to be organic.

billicho2 m ago

Can’t believe the ignorance about organic farming methods in the comments h …Can’t believe the ignorance about organic farming methods in the comments here!To get organic certification farmers have to go through very strict and stringent checks for at least 2 years and get randomly audited often.Animals have significantly better lives (don’t believe the marketing terms “free range” or “outdoor bred”) as they are not pumped full of steroids, hormones and antibiotics. And also live a truly natural outdoor lifestyle consuming organic food themselves.Fruit & veg is not exposed to any synthetic pesticides nor is force grown. I could go on but please educate yourselves before commenting.I’m not preaching for anyone to go organic, each to their own, just don’t be ignorant!


You don't need to lecture me, I'm more than aware of the above points. I was speaking about the word organic in relation to its context.

BiGfactHunt56 m ago

"Organic" is marketing jargon used to charge more for a produce simple as …"Organic" is marketing jargon used to charge more for a produce simple as that.

Can’t believe the ignorance about organic farming methods in the comments here!

To get organic certification farmers have to go through very strict and stringent checks for at least 2 years and get randomly audited often.

Animals have significantly better lives (don’t believe the marketing terms “free range” or “outdoor bred”) as they are not pumped full of steroids, hormones and antibiotics. And also live a truly natural outdoor lifestyle consuming organic food themselves.

Fruit & veg is not exposed to any synthetic pesticides nor is force grown.

I could go on but please educate yourselves before commenting.

I’m not preaching for anyone to go organic, each to their own, just don’t be ignorant!

billicho1 h, 12 m ago

very strict and stringent check


really? Like beef Does?

fishmaster3 h, 45 m ago

Organic is a meaningless word if you think about it, all food by …Organic is a meaningless word if you think about it, all food by definition is organic as it's organic matter. Also if you think about it before the 19th Century food was grown without using chemical pesticides. These are used to improve yield as a consequence of a Capitalist system. So for me organic as a word is meaningless as a system it has its merits, I've never liked the use of the word though.


"Organic" is merely branding and, particularly in the case of wine production, indicates that a MORE environmentally damaging production system is used, since fungal diseases are controlled by using highly toxic copper compounds. These are, by the way, CHEMICAL PESTICIDES. We've banned the use of metal-based fungicides everywhere else except "organic" systems because they're nasty, persistent in the environment, need to be used in huge quantities and kill lots of non-target organisms. The hugely-funded organic lobby keeps using the filthy stuff because of an absurd belief system that says "natural = good, man-made = evil". It's rubbish and a big, fat lie. I won't touch "organic" stuff at any price. Sub-standard crap sold to the ignorant be deceitful means.

flaxdoctor4 m ago

"Organic" is merely branding and, particularly in the case of wine …"Organic" is merely branding and, particularly in the case of wine production, indicates that a MORE environmentally damaging production system is used, since fungal diseases are controlled by using highly toxic copper compounds. These are, by the way, CHEMICAL PESTICIDES. We've banned the use of metal-based fungicides everywhere else except "organic" systems because they're nasty, persistent in the environment, need to be used in huge quantities and kill lots of non-target organisms. The hugely-funded organic lobby keeps using the filthy stuff because of an absurd belief system that says "natural = good, man-made = evil". It's rubbish and a big, fat lie. I won't touch "organic" stuff at any price. Sub-standard crap sold to the ignorant be deceitful means.


P.S. same goes for 'organic' chocolate and coffee - hugely toxic copper buildup in plantation soils, caused by activist anti-pesticide lobby which prevents registration of safer products!

flaxdoctor7 h, 36 m ago

"Organic" is merely branding and, particularly in the case of wine …"Organic" is merely branding and, particularly in the case of wine production, indicates that a MORE environmentally damaging production system is used, since fungal diseases are controlled by using highly toxic copper compounds. These are, by the way, CHEMICAL PESTICIDES. We've banned the use of metal-based fungicides everywhere else except "organic" systems because they're nasty, persistent in the environment, need to be used in huge quantities and kill lots of non-target organisms. The hugely-funded organic lobby keeps using the filthy stuff because of an absurd belief system that says "natural = good, man-made = evil". It's rubbish and a big, fat lie. I won't touch "organic" stuff at any price. Sub-standard crap sold to the ignorant be deceitful means.


Oh my it’s the foil hat brigade. I’d rather debate with vegans than you lot.

I’m not involved in organic wine production so it would be unfair of me to comment... but I assume you’re referring to the naturally derived pesticides we are allowed to use.

Just two days ago the bbc reported on the “nitrate time bomb”, this is because farmers in developed countries are using so much of this synthetic pesticide that it has soaked right through the soil and rock beneath it is getting close to the water table.

Again you must be aware of the well reported antibiotics time bomb too?

Look my family worked very hard to become an organic farm, and we did it because we believe in building a sustainable future- not for the label.

Organic farms are the toughest slog and the so much more complicated, and I welcome you to visit ours anytime to learn some truths. Rather than the propaganda the capitalist farmers put out

supermann13 h, 25 m ago

Most wines do sadly. Question is, did they put the sulphites in there to …Most wines do sadly. Question is, did they put the sulphites in there to mask poor quality ingredients or just to help preserve the freshness of the wine?



It's a preservative. It plays an important role in preventing oxidization, maintaining freshness and keeping unwanted bacteria at bay.

flaxdoctor9 h, 58 m ago

"Organic" is merely branding and, particularly in the case of wine …"Organic" is merely branding and, particularly in the case of wine production, indicates that a MORE environmentally damaging production system is used, since fungal diseases are controlled by using highly toxic copper compounds. These are, by the way, CHEMICAL PESTICIDES. We've banned the use of metal-based fungicides everywhere else except "organic" systems because they're nasty, persistent in the environment, need to be used in huge quantities and kill lots of non-target organisms. The hugely-funded organic lobby keeps using the filthy stuff because of an absurd belief system that says "natural = good, man-made = evil". It's rubbish and a big, fat lie. I won't touch "organic" stuff at any price. Sub-standard crap sold to the ignorant be deceitful means.


It's definitely branding, but I was merely extrapolating on the original of the word in context to how it has been applied. In terms of food everything is organic matter. I imagine the word organic was used as it's associated with natural. The public at large associate natural with good, this isn't the case. Nuclear radiation is natural but you don't want a dose of that with your porridge every morning.

We could look at a reasoned article on organic farming >

blogs.scientificamerican.com/sci…re/

I don't readily have an opinion on organic farming, as I haven't researched it. So based on what I know I can't agree or disagree with you, as things are rarely black or white. I personally think that dairy farming and meat farming has an impact on the environment, which is why there's some start ups selling insect produce as it's sustainable. However that appears to be more of a hipster trend than genuinely useful.

stinkybeard1 h, 8 m ago

It's a preservative. It plays an important role in preventing oxidization, …It's a preservative. It plays an important role in preventing oxidization, maintaining freshness and keeping unwanted bacteria at bay.



Yes but it's also used to mask crappy ingredients, that's why sometimes you'll find that cheap ciders have a very eggy smell. Basically juice made from partially rotten or slightly going apples is much more prone to smelling bad, so pack it full of sulphites to make viable product.
Edited by: "supermann" 13th Nov

billicho13th Nov

"propaganda the capitalist farmers put out"


"Capitalist farmers"? Tin hats?

Wow. The organic movement was invented by far-right reactionaries in the 1930s who feared change, as reactionaries do. And also fear technology, as reactionaries do. More latterly the "organic" brand has been hugely exploited as a way of extracting money from the ignorant, who have their basest instincts played on by naked fearmongering - see your post above for an example.

And if freely buying goods or services from people who want to sell them or freely selling goods or services to folks who want to buy them (as every organic farmer I've ever known does daily) is somehow morally repugnant to you, then feel free to use 'capitalist' as a term of offence. If you actually mean 'greedy sod', then I'd contend that selling substandard produce through fear genuinely IS morally repugnant.

billicho13th Nov

Oh my it’s the foil hat brigade. I’d rather debate with vegans than you lot …Oh my it’s the foil hat brigade. I’d rather debate with vegans than you lot.I’m not involved in organic wine production so it would be unfair of me to comment... but I assume you’re referring to the naturally derived pesticides we are allowed to use.Just two days ago the bbc reported on the “nitrate time bomb”, this is because farmers in developed countries are using so much of this synthetic pesticide that it has soaked right through the soil and rock beneath it is getting close to the water table. Again you must be aware of the well reported antibiotics time bomb too? Look my family worked very hard to become an organic farm, and we did it because we believe in building a sustainable future- not for the label.Organic farms are the toughest slog and the so much more complicated, and I welcome you to visit ours anytime to learn some truths. Rather than the propaganda the capitalist farmers put out


Interesting read, but is organic really more sustainable? I would have thought it was far less sustainable due to the decreased yield with organic farming
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