Toshiba 4TB StorE Canvio Desktop Hard Drive £94.49 @ Ebuyer
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Toshiba 4TB StorE Canvio Desktop Hard Drive £94.49 @ Ebuyer

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Found 16th Jan
Thought this was an OK deal for an external desktop drive ie uses a power supply so none of that portable malarky.
Ebuyer have terrible p&p to Northern Ireland so I will not be buying unfortunately. However this may be of use to someone, let the flaming begin

Toshiba 4TB StorE Canvio Desktop Hard Drive Product Description

Smart, Safe, Speedy

The STOR.E CANVIO Desktop is the smart, speedy way to preserve your favourite files and memories. USB 3.0 makes it super-fast, and it's backwards compatible so connecting to USB 2.0 devices is no problem. The pre-loaded NTI® Backup Now EZ™ software is a complete back-up solution to keep your files safe. And password encryption goes the extra mile to guard against intruders. Available in capacities up to 5 TB, the CANVIO Desktop is the ideal partner for your TV or PC.

Fast Transfer Speeds

Powered by new USB 3.0 technology, these portable hard drives are far faster than-but still compatible with-USB 2.0 technology. That's important for speedy transfer when organising your files.

Smart Design

These hard drives are easy to carry and nice to look at. You get a choice of colours and versatile mounting options. Available in several capacity sizes, STOR.E CANVIO desktop hard drives are perfect for storing data, music, pictures, and more.

Peace of Mind

These hard drives come with pre-loaded backup software that provides file, folder, and full system backup and recovery. Password encryption keeps unauthorised users from accessing your valuable data.

Specifications

- Interface: USB 3.0 (USB 2.0 compatible)
- Max. transfer rate: ~ 5.0 Gb/s
- Enclosure: Matt
- Colour: Black
- Capacity: 4TB
- Rotational Speed: 7200 rpm
- Cache Buffer: 32 MB
- Average Seek Time: 14 ms File System NTFS (MS Windows)

*The drive can be re-formatted to HFS+ file system for full Mac compatibility. Power AC Power adapter cable
Input: 100-240V, 650mA
Output: 12V - 2A
exchangeable plug head Dimensions 129 (L) x 42 (W) x 167 (H) mm System requirements:Windows® VISTA® / Windows® 7 / Windows 8 / Windows 8.1 / Windows® 10
Mac OS® X (Tiger®, Leopard®, Snow Leopard®, Lion®, Mountain Lion®)
10 MB system hard disk space, 256 MB system memory
One free port of USB 3.0 or USB 2.0
CPU with 750 MHz or faster, 10MB system hard disk space, 256MB system memory, one free port of USB 3.0 or USB 2.0

Box Contents

STOR.E CANVIO
NTI Backup Now EZ software (pre-loaded)
USB 3.0 cable ("A" to Micro "B" 2.5")
AC adapter cable
Quick Start Guide
User's Manual (pre-installed on the hard drive)
Warranty Leaflet

7 Comments

Original Poster

I might add the 5TB is £109.97 as well....

I wonder why it doesn't work with Windows XP?

3guesses

I wonder why it doesn't work with Windows XP?



Probably because of the 2TB partition limit on NTFS for 32bit XP.

It's a dead OS. Intel didn't support USB3 via their eXtensible Host Controller, so that limits USB3 use to a very small number of other chipsets.

It's probably just not worth the time / cost supporting officially. Chances are a smaller partition would work on USB2, as you'd expect though.

nomnomnomnom

Probably because of the 2TB partition limit on NTFS for 32bit XP.It's a … Probably because of the 2TB partition limit on NTFS for 32bit XP.It's a dead OS. Intel didn't support USB3 via their eXtensible Host Controller, so that limits USB3 use to a very small number of other chipsets.It's probably just not worth the time / cost supporting officially. Chances are a smaller partition would work on USB2, as you'd expect though.



My Seagate Expansion 4TB (single partition) works just fine on my XP machines.

3guesses

My Seagate Expansion 4TB (single partition) works just fine on my XP … My Seagate Expansion 4TB (single partition) works just fine on my XP machines.



How?

3guesses

My Seagate Expansion 4TB (single partition) works just fine on my XP … My Seagate Expansion 4TB (single partition) works just fine on my XP machines.



Some Seagate drives have a custom solution built into their external drives (Google Seagate 2TB and Beyond for info). This doesn't apply to other drives.

Separate to this, MBR based drives are limited to around 2TB by design (address space limitations), so you must use GPT. GPT is not natively supported by Windows XP 32 bit, but is on Windows XP 64-Bit Edition.

You can get GPT drives working on XP through using a driver (Paragon, etc..), although even this is limited to 2TB-ish due to the address space. You simply don't have more than 32bits to play with.

Microsoft have a really good article on this: support.microsoft.com/en-…408

Anything that 'works' is a 3rd party solution / hack to make it look like it does (you can't make a 32bit system go higher than that).
So as I said above really - with an OS that's not had mainstream support for 8 years, it would bring nothing but support costs.

Edit - actually, can you provide more info please? Paragon state this will not work externally: paragon-software.com/tec…er/ - Presumably because of the 32bit address space in the BIOS / Other devices.
Microsoft also state in their docs that this is not possible: support.microsoft.com/en-…408
The solution from Seagate also seems to use more than one partition: seagate.com/gb/…tb/

I can't find any 4TB seagate drive that they claim will work with XP. Which model is it?
Edited by: "nomnomnomnom" 17th Jan

nomnomnomnom

Some Seagate drives have a custom solution built into their external … Some Seagate drives have a custom solution built into their external drives (Google Seagate 2TB and Beyond for info). This doesn't apply to other drives.Separate to this, MBR based drives are limited to around 2TB by design (address space limitations), so you must use GPT. GPT is not natively supported by Windows XP 32 bit, but is on Windows XP 64-Bit Edition.You can get GPT drives working on XP through using a driver (Paragon, etc..), although even this is limited to 2TB-ish due to the address space. You simply don't have more than 32bits to play with.Microsoft have a really good article on this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/2581408Anything that 'works' is a 3rd party solution / hack to make it look like it does (you can't make a 32bit system go higher than that).So as I said above really - with an OS that's not had mainstream support for 8 years, it would bring nothing but support costs.Edit - actually, can you provide more info please? Paragon state this will not work externally: https://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components/gpt-loader/ - Presumably because of the 32bit address space in the BIOS / Other devices.Microsoft also state in their docs that this is not possible: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/2581408The solution from Seagate also seems to use more than one partition: http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/support/downloads/beyond-2tb/I can't find any 4TB seagate drive that they claim will work with XP. Which model is it?



Yes, before I bought it I did some research and thought I'd have problems, but it just worked out of the box. I think I even re-formatted it and possibly even re-partitioned it under XP. It's the Seagate Expansion Desktop Drive, model SRD00F2, P/N 1D7AD8-500.

I hope I haven't jinxed it!


EDIT: I bought it from eBuyer in November 2013 and the product page stated:

Software & System RequirementsOS Required Microsoft Windows Vista / XP / … Software & System RequirementsOS Required Microsoft Windows Vista / XP / 7 / 8



Edited by: "3guesses" 18th Jan
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